Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 97. (Read 31627 times)

Maybe it didn't happen because Zorrilla is only a replacement opponent for him. Usually it really break the training strategy or the plans of this fighter. Good thing is that there is no upset. Unlike Manny's last fight, it should be against Spence, but the late replacement boxer in Ugas point one master class against the legend and beat him.


Lucky for those who bet on Prograis to win by decision here. Although again, there is one judges who might be biased as he scored the fight to Zorilla by just a point, LOL. But the 2 are synchronised so no doubt that Prograis won this fight hands down.

And the odds is like 8:1, Zorrilla is a huge underdog in this fight. But I don't think anyone bother to look or bet on it though.

Post fight interview, he mentioned Teo Lopez (retired for now), and Ryan Garcia as the fighter he wants next, he said no to Rolly, Lol. Perhaps it was a bad stylistic match up for him.

In any case a win is a win and this is his first time to defend his belt.

Just surprised that this ends in a split decision as Bookies predicted that it would be a knockout win by Prograis.

Before the fight, i browsed the odds and it's not really attractive to bet for Prograis either by ML or knockout but the "win via decision" is @4.xx, if I'm not mistaken, which is very juicy but I didn't bother to bet as I thought that this would not reach round 12 lol.

As expected, Prograis won the fight against the late replacement Danielito Zorrilla, retain his WBC 140 lbs belt. However, it was just a split decision as one judge Craig Metcalfe give it to Zorrilla 114-113, Robert Tapper (118-109) and Josef Mason (117-110).

Although you can hear some boos from the fans though. I didn't watch the full fight as it didn't really interest me, just watching from time to time to see if Zorilla can pull an upset but nah, Prograis just having his time at his home town for this fight.

Yes and that is a total disrespect too to the victim's family because even after Tank was given a house arrest which favorably gave him some little freedom instead of going to a prison, he was still violating the rules of it and tried to bend some rules in-order to transfer to his million dollar penthouse without thinking about what would the family feel. It's just like he was not in any remorse about what happened because he does not care at all and that is just sad to think because the family already had injustice and then this is what they heard.

By now, they might've figured it out already because yes, his fight versus Ryder somehow made the picture much clearer because Canelo was already slowing down and it feels like he's not the Canelo like we used to know. And then there's the injury in his wrist that probably made his situation more worse than what they have expected, he might be not be that old but we can say that his healing phase is not that fast anymore due to wear and tear.

Well, this is a total shame, because at this point things cannot happen that way, Tank Davis seeing himself in a type of crime like this, is something that does not set an example, the worst thing is that there are children who admire him, and They see the example that he gives and it is something that is not good, apart from the fact that he violated custody as ordered, it is something that is not well seen, this type of thing must be corrected, I do not know why some boxers have problems of this style, In particular, since they are famous figures, they should be given a strong sanction, just for being people who should set an example.

Both scenario is possible, I like the second option though, yes, admit it or not, after his final fight with GGG, it seems all the energy was zap up from Canelo plus the injury that he suffered. Then we have the wear and tear, which is the usual culprit for a boxer to suddenly feel old and no longer in his prime.

So if Reynoso see that Canelo is on the way out or his career is on the sundown, then they pick a easy way with Jermall Charlo, a good fighter, known in the US is a champion as well. In paper it looks good, but Canelo has all the advantage here and they can see if Canelo still can pull the trigger or really on the decline already.

Yes, that's why it is called rumour though, but as boxing fans, we want to speculate as what will be the next move of their team.

We wanted a Bivol or Benavidez fight, seems not going to happen. Bivol says that the offer is not as good as what they have expected giving the fact that they beat Canelo. And then with the Benavidez fight, it seems that Canelo is not interested.

And so the rumour that recently came out, Charlo the champion at 160 lbs is their next target. So we will see if this is what Canelo's camp wanted and what they are going to accomplished if they chooses a small fighter who is not that active.

I'll just put it here, since the Taylor vs Lopez thread might be close.

So Teo mentioned that he will come back and fight if he is being offered by the network itself, and not with the promoter.


https://www.boxingscene.com/teofimo-lopez-only-way-i-come-back-multi-fight-deal-directly-with-network-not-promoter--175437

Maybe similar to what Canelo did with DAZN, minimum of $300 million ++ in 5 years or 11 fights.

Very clever of Teo, but we will see if there is a network that is willing to give him huge contract, maybe not as big as Canelo, but a contract that he will be satisfied.

Or should Teo joins Skills Challenge Promotions? - A Saudi Based boxing promotion? for sure they can offer him big money as they have just signed Usyk and it is reported that Wilder and Devin Haney will be next.

https://proboxtv.com/news/Wilder-joins-Skill-Challenge-Promotions-and-Haney-is-set-to-follow/en

Needless to say, what we have here are just a mere speculations of what might be Canelo Alvarez's future move because it sure looks like he got a lot of option right now. But seriously though, CW might be too much for him because it was already clear that he is having a hard time fighting against a natural LHW. What more if it's a CW champion, I can't just imagine what will happen

As of now, there are no clear signs to Canelo's plan and only their team really knows what's the real score but it will not surprise me anymore if Benavidez will not get his chance even if he's the interim champ because currently, Canelo got the perks of having the organizer, promoter, sanctioning bodies and even judges are on his side.

As Mayweather's manager Leonard Ellerbe said, they are learning a lot from their previous events as to how to successfully stage their next events. Most likely referring to their almost empty event in the UK so they brought the drama on Floyd's event in the US against Gotti.

I wonder if Mayweather's exhibitions are not generating huge money because no big networks are buying his events unlike Jake Paul and KSI whose events are usually under DAZN and Showtime. Not to consider Mayweather's a former Showtime fighter and his current Mayweather Promotions is a dummy of PBC, a partner of Showtime. Or it could be that the networks do not want his events because he takes almost all of the profit which is too risky if in case an event fails to generate income.


This is weird. Because what I am hearing is that Canelo is 90% close to making a deal against WBC cruiserweight champion Badou Jack. Not an easy fight for Canelo despite Jack at 39 years old. But should Canelo lose again, he remains undisputed at 168 while he's got the chance to become a 5-division world champion if he beats Jack.

Anyways, should the rumor of Jermall-Canelo is the one to be made, I wonder if the WBC elevates Benavidez as its champion since he is the interim champ and even fought for an unnecessary eliminator.

And this is actually the dream fight Jermall is wishing for years already. He's been avoiding the real fights, including his supposed mandatory against Mungia (WBC got paid or scared to force the mandatory?), and would rather stay inactive to preserve his virgin record for the Canelo lottery.

So far, there are two things that might explain why Canelo picked Jermall Charlo instead of picking some bad boy in the same division as him or at least active.

1. They chose Charlo to keep Canelo warmed up until they can establish a negotiating position with Bivol because as of now, Bivol shows no interest in Canelo because of the terms being given to them even after upsetting Canelo in their first clash.

2. Canelo's career is in sundown already and what they are doing right now is just taking advantage of Canelo's fame while he can still sell a fight while picking a much safer boxer that will match the equation. I mean, that fight with John Ryder might be a tune-up but that also revealed Canelo's current situation and most probably revealed the likelihood if he will fight heavy named boxers.

Whether it is rigged or not, only Taylor knows because he is the one who does not deliver.  He is underperformed since Taylor didin't managed to show his supposed to be caliber.  It is either Lopez had outsmarted him or Taylor did not think that Lopez will improve that much prior to Lopez last fight.

I also think that the fight isn't rigged and the judges of that fight fairly do their jobs.

Surprisingly I read that Teofimo Lopez is about to vacant his recent won title.[1]

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[1] https://www.badlefthook.com/2023/6/15/23762782/teofimo-lopez-vacate-wbo-title-clear-in-house-vacant-title-fight-top-rank-boxing-news-2023

Hell yeah. Teo finally got another win under his belt. Good for him! Defeating Taylor is no small achievement, thats for sure. But heres the thing - a single win doesnt erase a pattern of poor behavior. Remember how he used to throw a tantrum every time he lost? Its almost as if he believed the world was conspiring against him.

Whats even more hilarious is his dad' claim before the fight. If Teo lost, it would be because the fight was rigged? I mean, come on. Who does he think hes fooling? Anyway, I hope this win serves as a reality check for Teo. Winning or losing is part of the game. Learning to accept both with grace? Now, thats the mark of a true champion.

Most likely Canelo and his team picks the easiest fight for him. I know tht Charlo has been calling Canelo for years now, but I think he is small to be a SMW and fight the best SMW right now in Canelo.

Although we might have been seeing Canelo slipping already, with a lost against Bivol that he supposedly to rematch but the negotiations feel off because they are offering the same money as before which I think is not fair to Bivol. And then we have the new Mexican monster at SMW wherein Canelo's excuse is that he doesn't want to fight another Mexican, which is obviously, trying to avoid David at all cost.

Josh Taylor admitted after the fight that he has problems making the weight cut and he says that he might jump to 147 lbs. But I don't think there will be rematch though, maybe there is no rematch clause afterall and again, Josh might move up.

As for Teo father's comment, he is always very confident of his sons ability, even after they lost to George Kambosos, they think that they still won the fight but was robbed by the judges. That's how confident he is that before the actual fight they will say that they are going to knockout this guy blah blah.

I don't think it was rigged though, if you have followed Lopez sr, full of confident before the time. It's just that in this fight though, it seems that Lopez sr really see how the fight will turn out as he say that they are going to outbox Josh Taylor and that's what exactly happen here. And we thought that Lopez sr is just joking because Teo is a brawler and love to fight in the side. But it was a different version of Teo. I do agree that Josh might suffered from the weight, as it is clearly that he doesn't have the legs at 140 lbs already.

Any father will support their kid no matter what, some father will even cheat for their kid to win but thats not I think what happens. Teo won thats a fact but they can't discount the fact that Taylor had to lose weight to fight him. Taylor being dehydrated gives Teo the spead advantage to win the fight against an already beaten up fighter while it lasted 12 rounds with 3 US judges. It may look good in the record but is UD, they will have rematch I guess on fairer weight class.

Ok there is a rumor circulating around that Canelo's next fight won't be Bivol and not against Benavidez as well.

Again, this is just a rumor, it is said that it will be Canelo va Jermall Charlo. Jermall last fight though is 2019, so not sure why Canelo and his camp are picking a inactive fighter and not even a true 168 super middle weight boxer.

Sure Jermall is a middle champion, but he will have to go up in weight and fight Canelo at his best weight.

And it seems that Canelo is really cherry picking his fight now or someone in his team did. So let's see if this fight is going to be developed and will actually going to happen late this year. This fight though might hit Canelo's legacy as he duck Benavidez and then his rematch with Bivol.