[Boxing]: Sultan vs Butler - WBO Bantamweight Interim title fight. - page 103.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on September 26, 2021, 07:22:58 PM

Quote from: Ryker1 on September 26, 2021, 05:55:26 PM

Well let us see and wait, I have Casimero too to bet as a winner on this match.
I never expect that the organization now can force them to order a fight and I thought it was chosen by the fighter, it seems possible there is Inoue and Donaire fight after this event. I don't see how good Butler is since he is not so familiar with me, and perhaps he is not that popular as compared with the two fighters, Donaire and Casinmero. Is there any further announcement of this match?

Its always be, there would be those people who are on the top will make out such decisions like these on where you wont really be having any choice but to follow it which do sucks and have questions
on mind on how the heck they would really be missing out an opportunity to earn more if the said fight is really high in demand like Casimero vs Inoue

and instead they do make out some mandatory fights which is totally opposing the hype.Dont know on whats up to their minds to have such actions.

Why it sucks? Casimero vs Inoue is just hype in PH but what about the overall market on business side? The organizers won't do something that they won't be profitable. They are the experts for this compare to us viewers which only knows what we see in public.

I think it's sucks for you because you don't know Butler. It's a good match to watch. Just be patient and a fight between Casimero and Inoue will happen soon.

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Quote from: Ryker1 on September 26, 2021, 05:55:26 PM

Quote from: stadus on September 26, 2021, 05:20:53 PM

Casimero is a warrior, he wins fights in a different venue or by fighting in his opponent's country, so I don't think he will get intimidated by any opponent, fighting in the familiar venue. Butler may have the power, but look at his 2 loses, one from Tete and one from Rodriguez which Inoue and Gaballo beaten.

Well let us see and wait, I have Casimero too to bet as a winner on this match.
I never expect that the organization now can force them to order a fight and I thought it was chosen by the fighter, it seems possible there is Inoue and Donaire fight after this event. I don't see how good Butler is since he is not so familiar with me, and perhaps he is not that popular as compared with the two fighters, Donaire and Casinmero. Is there any further announcement of this match?

Its always be, there would be those people who are on the top will make out such decisions like these on where you wont really be having any choice but to follow it which do sucks and have questions
on mind on how the heck they would really be missing out an opportunity to earn more if the said fight is really high in demand like Casimero vs Inoue

and instead they do make out some mandatory fights which is totally opposing the hype.Dont know on whats up to their minds to have such actions.

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Quote from: stadus on September 26, 2021, 05:20:53 PM

Casimero is a warrior, he wins fights in a different venue or by fighting in his opponent's country, so I don't think he will get intimidated by any opponent, fighting in the familiar venue. Butler may have the power, but look at his 2 loses, one from Tete and one from Rodriguez which Inoue and Gaballo beaten.

Well let us see and wait, I have Casimero too to bet as a winner on this match.
I never expect that the organization now can force them to order a fight and I thought it was chosen by the fighter, it seems possible there is Inoue and Donaire fight after this event. I don't see how good Butler is since he is not so familiar with me, and perhaps he is not that popular as compared with the two fighters, Donaire and Casinmero. Is there any further announcement of this match?

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on September 26, 2021, 12:18:57 PM

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Quote from: electronicash on September 26, 2021, 12:09:07 PM

if casimero win and donaire win, will there be a chance of unification of WBO and WBC?

If they can't get Inoue, then it's possible that Casimero and Donaire will fight for the unification belt, and then winner goes up against Inoue for all the major belt unification. So a lot is on the line here and Casimero and Donaire needed to win against their respective opponent. If either of one or both has been upset then this potential fight has to wait. Just like what happen to Joshua, there's a lot of talks between him and Fury, but Usyk derail all the plans.

So it means this is still very dangerous fight for Casimero and he shouldn't take Butler lightly as the plan can be hindered by Butler himself. The 3 names we have in this division, is him, then Inoue and Donaire.

A win by Casimero will give him a nice paycheck and we may finally see the Casimero and Donaire finally as he already send his apologies to the Filipino Flash.

Any fighter is always a dangerous fighter especially if the KO rate is high.

Casimero is a warrior, he wins fights in a different venue or by fighting in his opponent's country, so I don't think he will get intimidated by any opponent, fighting in the familiar venue. Butler may have the power, but look at his 2 loses, one from Tete and one from Rodriguez which Inoue and Gaballo beaten.

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Quote from: btc_angela on September 26, 2021, 12:15:40 PM

Quote from: electronicash on September 26, 2021, 12:09:07 PM

if casimero win and donaire win, will there be a chance of unification of WBO and WBC?

If they can't get Inoue, then it's possible that Casimero and Donaire will fight for the unification belt, and then winner goes up against Inoue for all the major belt unification. So a lot is on the line here and Casimero and Donaire needed to win against their respective opponent. If either of one or both has been upset then this potential fight has to wait. Just like what happen to Joshua, there's a lot of talks between him and Fury, but Usyk derail all the plans.

So it means this is still very dangerous fight for Casimero and he shouldn't take Butler lightly as the plan can be hindered by Butler himself. The 3 names we have in this division, is him, then Inoue and Donaire.

A win by Casimero will give him a nice paycheck and we may finally see the Casimero and Donaire finally as he already send his apologies to the Filipino Flash.

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Quote from: electronicash on September 26, 2021, 12:09:07 PM

if casimero win and donaire win, will there be a chance of unification of WBO and WBC?

If they can't get Inoue, then it's possible that Casimero and Donaire will fight for the unification belt, and then winner goes up against Inoue for all the major belt unification. So a lot is on the line here and Casimero and Donaire needed to win against their respective opponent. If either of one or both has been upset then this potential fight has to wait. Just like what happen to Joshua, there's a lot of talks between him and Fury, but Usyk derail all the plans.

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this fight will materialize as mandated by the organization, the inoue vs casimero is not mandated. many after this butler fight the organization will also mandate the to fight. their characters were staked when the video brawling started, all the Twitter trash talks have gotten fruitless when there is nothing that forces them to actually kick off.

if casimero win and donaire win, will there be a chance of unification of WBO and WBC?

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 26, 2021, 07:51:30 AM

They need this for a tune-up as Inoue is a beast and whoever faces him will have a struggle in the fight. Look at Donaire, he was the best boxer in the Philippines in the same division as Inoue but he lose via unanimous decision, so it's really hard to expect that Inoue would lose even against Casimero.

Not sure if we should call this fight as tune-up as everything can happen when fighters meet inside the ring,

Though Casimero is far superior with Butler title wise, but upset still possible if overconfidence takeover with Casimero.

Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 26, 2021, 07:51:30 AM

it's again another opportunity to fight for Casimero to continue to strengthen his boxing skills as he will be training again and that makes him fit and ready to fight anytime, maybe after this fight, he will have a big fight with Inoue as Arum says it could be next year.

I see this as a good point. Casimero will add another win for him and develop more good skills, especially if the Butler gives him a tough day.

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Quote from: Sanitough on September 25, 2021, 12:36:39 PM

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Quote from: rodskee on September 25, 2021, 08:18:55 AM

actually more people also looking for casimero vs inoue fight because casimero and donaire are both Filipino in which not that good for their country's interest and for the fans also .
but since this is also a mandatory for casimero as the order comes from the higher ups? then sure this will be the next thing for His career,
facing Butler first before Inoue or Donaire in the future .

Agreed most of fans supporting their own country even though he's an underdog or even little chance to win, Casimero vs Donaire isn't good to since Donaire's refused to fight with Casimero in the past and less hype. IMO this ordered fight is just like a preparation between both of Casimero or Donaire to fight with Inoue. Butler and Gaballo are a good boxer with good record too, so if he could beat this boxer, he has a more chance to beat Inoue too.

Actually, they don't need these mandatory fights to beat Inoue, they are already good, they beat champions and that's enough to say that they have a chance to beat Inoue, especially for Casimero as he has not faced Inoue before and Inoue might be surprised that Casimero also has the power.

Casimero beat Tete, a champion who beat Butler before.
Donaire beat Oubaali a champion.

They need this for a tune-up as Inoue is a beast and whoever faces him will have a struggle in the fight. Look at Donaire, he was the best boxer in the Philippines in the same division as Inoue but he lose via unanimous decision, so it's really hard to expect that Inoue would lose even against Casimero.

it's again another opportunity to fight for Casimero to continue to strengthen his boxing skills as he will be training again and that makes him fit and ready to fight anytime, maybe after this fight, he will have a big fight with Inoue as Arum says it could be next year.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on September 25, 2021, 10:58:23 AM

Quote from: rodskee on September 25, 2021, 08:18:55 AM

actually more people also looking for casimero vs inoue fight because casimero and donaire are both Filipino in which not that good for their country's interest and for the fans also .
but since this is also a mandatory for casimero as the order comes from the higher ups? then sure this will be the next thing for His career,
facing Butler first before Inoue or Donaire in the future .

Agreed most of fans supporting their own country even though he's an underdog or even little chance to win, Casimero vs Donaire isn't good to since Donaire's refused to fight with Casimero in the past and less hype. IMO this ordered fight is just like a preparation between both of Casimero or Donaire to fight with Inoue. Butler and Gaballo are a good boxer with good record too, so if he could beat this boxer, he has a more chance to beat Inoue too.

Actually, they don't need these mandatory fights to beat Inoue, they are already good, they beat champions and that's enough to say that they have a chance to beat Inoue, especially for Casimero as he has not faced Inoue before and Inoue might be surprised that Casimero also has the power.

Casimero beat Tete, a champion who beat Butler before.
Donaire beat Oubaali a champion.

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Quote from: rodskee on September 25, 2021, 08:18:55 AM

actually more people also looking for casimero vs inoue fight because casimero and donaire are both Filipino in which not that good for their country's interest and for the fans also .
but since this is also a mandatory for casimero as the order comes from the higher ups? then sure this will be the next thing for His career,
facing Butler first before Inoue or Donaire in the future .

Agreed most of fans supporting their own country even though he's an underdog or even little chance to win, Casimero vs Donaire isn't good to since Donaire's refused to fight with Casimero in the past and less hype. IMO this ordered fight is just like a preparation between both of Casimero or Donaire to fight with Inoue. Butler and Gaballo are a good boxer with good record too, so if he could beat this boxer, he has a more chance to beat Inoue too.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on September 25, 2021, 07:24:02 AM

Just when many people thought that Donaire is going to fight Casimero our hope was dash because of this order, there's been a lot of trash-talking between the two, but unfortunately, the boxing organization beat the promoters by ordering this fight, it's not really a hard fight for Casimero, Butler was knock out by Tete who was knock out by Casimero to win the title, so far Casimero won his last three fights via knock out and his knock out streak will continue with this fight.

actually more people also looking for casimero vs inoue fight because casimero and donaire are both Filipino in which not that good for their country's interest and for the fans also .
but since this is also a mandatory for casimero as the order comes from the higher ups? then sure this will be the next thing for His career,
facing Butler first before Inoue or Donaire in the future .

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Just when many people thought that Donaire is going to fight Casimero our hope was dash because of this order, there's been a lot of trash-talking between the two, but unfortunately, the boxing organization beat the promoters by ordering this fight, it's not really a hard fight for Casimero, Butler was knock out by Tete who was knock out by Casimero to win the title, so far Casimero won his last three fights via knock out and his knock out streak will continue with this fight.

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Quote from: markdario112616 on September 24, 2021, 05:21:29 PM

Casimero is always confident, which sometimes seems to be a disadvantage to him. Though casimero will always go for the KO, and always will aim for an early-round knockout. Though, Butler, on the other hand, is a great fighter a well-rounded one as well. Both have the same dynamics, which is to be aggressive but as I see it Casimero has an edge in this one 'coz of his power punches and those sneaky uppercuts.

His Mouth speaks too much and sometimes i think that he cannot stand from His words.

but of course we have seen Him fight and yes He ha a Skills and capacity to win.

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Hopefully, he could finish the fight early and via TKO/KO just to make another statement and aim for Inoue. Casimero vs Donaire is definitely out of the picture, it seems that they an irreconcilable issues during the last talk. If Casimero vs Inoue is booked, I'll be damn.

My long awaited fight , Casimero vs Inoue as i already had the funds to use for betting but for now I will just stock the amount for that coming fight in the future .

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Quote from: goaldigger on September 24, 2021, 05:24:35 PM

If Casimero really wants to fight Inoue, this could be his chance and he must win on this or else many will trash talk him as well, the attitude that he have should be more positive every time on the ring to avoid any mistakes and aim for another KO. Butler also have a good record under his name, he’s not an easy one but hopefully Casimero will finish this fight early.

Finally after the speculation of Casimero vs Inoue and the`speculation of rematch of Casimero vs. Donaire has been changed to a Casimero vs Butler. I think Casimero has something with his attitude and trash talk doings in contrast to his boxing opponents is not a manner in sportsmanship code. Seeing the profile of Paul Butler it seems that even he is 2 year age older than Casimero this man is a good fighter that could give a great fight inside the ring and he has a good record too which Casimero shouldn't take this easy and be overconfident over Butler.

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So eventually, Casimero will have no options, unless he wanted to be strip of his belt by WBO. And this is a good fight for Casimero specially if he knocks out Butler or win in a good fashion.

Perhaps this is really a good opportunity for him to have a potential good match, but he shouldn't put his confidence beyond limits. We aren't sure if Butler would be beatin by him, since this was also a strong fighter though he got a strong foundation being a boxer but preparation is the most keys in order to win over his opponent. Every barriers should he observed before anything else will negatively exist.

I don't think that Casimero will be over confident against Butler. For sure his team knows that every fight is very important for him and should be treated with 100% training and dedication and hard work. They are now on the top and they doesn't need to make one mistake that will be very costly for his career. On the other hand, Butler is also thinking that he has a chance to beat the champ in Casimero, that's why in paper it looks like Casimero will have the advantage. But when they face in the ring it will be different.

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Quote from: TravelMug on September 24, 2021, 04:40:02 AM

Quote from: Hippocrypto on September 23, 2021, 06:18:38 PM

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So eventually, Casimero will have no options, unless he wanted to be strip of his belt by WBO. And this is a good fight for Casimero specially if he knocks out Butler or win in a good fashion.

Perhaps this is really a good opportunity for him to have a potential good match, but he shouldn't put his confidence beyond limits. We aren't sure if Butler would be beatin by him, since this was also a strong fighter though he got a strong foundation being a boxer but preparation is the most keys in order to win over his opponent. Every barriers should he observed before anything else will negatively exist.

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Quote from: goaldigger on September 24, 2021, 05:24:35 PM

Quote from: markdario112616 on September 24, 2021, 05:21:29 PM

Casimero is always confident, which sometimes seems to be a disadvantage to him. Though casimero will always go for the KO, and always will aim for an early-round knockout. Though, Butler, on the other hand, is a great fighter a well-rounded one as well. Both have the same dynamics, which is to be aggressive but as I see it Casimero has an edge in this one 'coz of his power punches and those sneaky uppercuts.

Hopefully, he could finish the fight early and via TKO/KO just to make another statement and aim for Inoue. Casimero vs Donaire is definitely out of the picture, it seems that they an irreconcilable issues during the last talk. If Casimero vs Inoue is booked, I'll be damn.

If Casimero really wants to fight Inoue, this could be his chance and he must win on this or else many will trash talk him as well, the attitude that he have should be more positive every time on the ring to avoid any mistakes and aim for another KO. Butler also have a good record under his name, he’s not an easy one but hopefully Casimero will finish this fight early.

Casimero would always want to fight Inoue, we thought that the fight will happen this December but suddenly this news came out and that will not happen anymore as it's a mandatory fight for him. Casimero and Inoue had already agreed that they will fight, but Casimero has to take care of this first and we might see them next year having a big fight.

Always have the probabilities of such movement of schedule but since it wasnt finalized in the first place then we shouldnt really that expect much that it would happen in next year too but depending on the hype and interest on where the community been showing off.

Schedules would really be moved out because boxers arent the ones who would really make out decisions in regards to their upcoming fights.It would be always on the organization
which they wont really be having any choice but to deal with it first before reaching or making other fights do happen.

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Quote from: goaldigger on September 24, 2021, 05:24:35 PM

Quote from: markdario112616 on September 24, 2021, 05:21:29 PM

Casimero is always confident, which sometimes seems to be a disadvantage to him. Though casimero will always go for the KO, and always will aim for an early-round knockout. Though, Butler, on the other hand, is a great fighter a well-rounded one as well. Both have the same dynamics, which is to be aggressive but as I see it Casimero has an edge in this one 'coz of his power punches and those sneaky uppercuts.

Hopefully, he could finish the fight early and via TKO/KO just to make another statement and aim for Inoue. Casimero vs Donaire is definitely out of the picture, it seems that they an irreconcilable issues during the last talk. If Casimero vs Inoue is booked, I'll be damn.

If Casimero really wants to fight Inoue, this could be his chance and he must win on this or else many will trash talk him as well, the attitude that he have should be more positive every time on the ring to avoid any mistakes and aim for another KO. Butler also have a good record under his name, he’s not an easy one but hopefully Casimero will finish this fight early.

Casimero would always want to fight Inoue, we thought that the fight will happen this December but suddenly this news came out and that will not happen anymore as it's a mandatory fight for him. Casimero and Inoue had already agreed that they will fight, but Casimero has to take care of this first and we might see them next year having a big fight.

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Quote from: markdario112616 on September 24, 2021, 05:21:29 PM

Casimero is always confident, which sometimes seems to be a disadvantage to him. Though casimero will always go for the KO, and always will aim for an early-round knockout. Though, Butler, on the other hand, is a great fighter a well-rounded one as well. Both have the same dynamics, which is to be aggressive but as I see it Casimero has an edge in this one 'coz of his power punches and those sneaky uppercuts.

Hopefully, he could finish the fight early and via TKO/KO just to make another statement and aim for Inoue. Casimero vs Donaire is definitely out of the picture, it seems that they an irreconcilable issues during the last talk. If Casimero vs Inoue is booked, I'll be damn.

If Casimero really wants to fight Inoue, this could be his chance and he must win on this or else many will trash talk him as well, the attitude that he have should be more positive every time on the ring to avoid any mistakes and aim for another KO. Butler also have a good record under his name, he’s not an easy one but hopefully Casimero will finish this fight early.

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