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Quote from: Russlenat on March 10, 2022, 04:20:22 AM

So do I, we already know that Casimero is excited to face Butler next month and he is really preparing about it that's why we are not seeing any movements or updates about Casimero now. As for Butler, I hope he will meet our expectations, I mean, that he will also give a good entertaining fight towards Casimero and to the fans, a toe-to-toe fight and continuously exchanging blows would be really good.

I also wanted to see Butler fighting toe to toe against Casimero, for sure. If not all the fans, most of us wanted to see actions

from both fighters, though strategy might be there and observing before going all in, maybe in the first few rounds. But then,

a close exchanging of punches will excite viewers and who will ever win this fight will received attentions and hypes from his

name aside from the belt that he will carry.

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Butler on the other hand did the right decision to wait for Casimero for another couple of months, I guess Butler really want to prove something on Casimero or he was just after the belt after all.

Both, he wants to win to get the belt, otherwise, he would just fight the replacement but he won't benefit since there's no belt in a certain fight. Now is his chance, it doesn't matter if it's delayed, as long as he will continue his training and do the right strategy in the fight, he certainly has a decent chance to win.

Yes, I know that. Aside that he's after for Casimero's belt, maybe this is also a personal business for Butler because as I said, he want to prove something on Casimero and that's the main reason behind the waiting, the belt is just a second reason. Well, whatever it is, they will surely have a showdown next month and see who will win.

I like to see how he will prove himself to Casimero, hopefully, he will not be the same as Rigo who is only good at talking but not in the ring. If you saw the fight, you would really feel bored, so we hope that it will not happen here and it will be more entertaining if we will see a KO win.

So do I, we already know that Casimero is excited to face Butler next month and he is really preparing about it that's why we are not seeing any movements or updates about Casimero now. As for Butler, I hope he will meet our expectations, I mean, that he will also give a good entertaining fight towards Casimero and to the fans, a toe-to-toe fight and continuously exchanging blows would be really good.

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Any updates about this? I searched it on the internet but there's no update about it. Maybe they had fixed it already and paid the damages or whatsoever even if Casimero isn't proven guilty because as you guys said, it would take most of his time to attend trials in courts instead of preparing or resting so it's also possible that they've paid the complainant to cool down the issue.
If not then he should deal with it sooner because knowing the justice system in the Philippines, most of the time, they will side with the victim especially when it's about rape or sexual abuse. I hope this case against him will cease as soon as possible if Casimero is indeed not really guilty about it because I'm afraid he will be jailed just like Albert Pagara.

No update but I also see the same thing, maybe Casimero deal with it behind doors, a good offer to solve this issue or the legal

counsel of him are doing quite moves to solve this issue without any interference from mainstream medias, you said it right, the

justice system mostly siding with the victims but it can also turn things in favor of him if the price is right.

I thought so too! The news haven't gone up so I guess they have already dealt with it with a good offer that the alleged victim can't refuse and it's good because Casimero's reputation and career is not heavily scratched from that issue.

With money, anything is possible, Casimero is a millionaire, so it's easy for him to settle this case with his money and resources. No more update means good update of this fight as Casimero will not be distracted while on training.

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Yes, mostly the justice ain't served right because alleged victim have succeed from milking its target or yet they have the right connections to do so.

That's the justice system in the Philippines...

It's true that with money almost everything is possible, well I searched Casimero's net worth and I found out that he's worth with at least $5 Million last year and it he will be worth more this year as he's facing the UK's pride, Butler. So yes he is indeed a millionaire both in US and Philippines.
If that is indeed the case then it's good because Casimero is not distracted anymore, he can now rest and prepare for the fight peacefully.

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Quote from: Jating on March 09, 2022, 01:40:37 PM

I don't see any odds yet, maybe when the fight gets closer, for sure my favorite sports bookies are going to list it. But I have a feeling that Casimero will be the favorite, for obvious reason.

Back when the fight is not yet cancelled, the odds for this fight is:

Paul Butler +800
John Riel Casimero -1500

Casimero is a clear heavy favorite and I think even with that health problem issue, that gap of odds won't be changed.

You can take that as a reference on the possible future odds on this fight.

Said it right, Casimero may still get the favorite, but hopefully they will give something that bettors will think about.

Butler may take the advantage if Casimero will force himself to fit his weight before the fight, something that both fighters
will consider and be well prepared for this upcoming fight.

Let see if there's something that will change once the odds are open for both fighters..

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Any updates about this? I searched it on the internet but there's no update about it. Maybe they had fixed it already and paid the damages or whatsoever even if Casimero isn't proven guilty because as you guys said, it would take most of his time to attend trials in courts instead of preparing or resting so it's also possible that they've paid the complainant to cool down the issue.
If not then he should deal with it sooner because knowing the justice system in the Philippines, most of the time, they will side with the victim especially when it's about rape or sexual abuse. I hope this case against him will cease as soon as possible if Casimero is indeed not really guilty about it because I'm afraid he will be jailed just like Albert Pagara.

No update but I also see the same thing, maybe Casimero deal with it behind doors, a good offer to solve this issue or the legal

counsel of him are doing quite moves to solve this issue without any interference from mainstream medias, you said it right, the

justice system mostly siding with the victims but it can also turn things in favor of him if the price is right.

I really hope that everything has been fixed because honestly it is very bad that due to a judicial process they leave us without a fighter who is really very good, I know that the accusation is very strong, and I am completely sure that Casimero did not fall for such an act so deplorable, because he does not have that need, and it is also something that lowers his reputation a lot, which can influence his career, plus he is a public type person and despite everything he reaches all audiences being a bad example for both children and adolescents, that is why when they determine that he is innocent, I imagine that they should charge him a fine, although I do not know how the laws work very well in that jurisdiction.

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Quote from: Jating on March 09, 2022, 01:40:37 PM

I don't see any odds yet, maybe when the fight gets closer, for sure my favorite sports bookies are going to list it. But I have a feeling that Casimero will be the favorite, for obvious reason.

Back when the fight is not yet cancelled, the odds for this fight is:

Paul Butler +800
John Riel Casimero -1500

Casimero is a clear heavy favorite and I think even with that health problem issue, that gap of odds won't be changed.

You can take that as a reference on the possible future odds on this fight.

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Quote from: Jating on March 09, 2022, 01:40:37 PM

I don't see any odds yet, maybe when the fight gets closer, for sure my favorite sports bookies are going to list it. But I have a feeling that Casimero will be the favorite, for obvious reason. And with the news that Donaire vs Inoue rematch will happen, I do hope that Casimero will be motivated to really break down Butler in this fight so that he will have a chance to fight Inoue (if Inoue wins against Donaire).

Usually, we can expect to see the odds preview at least a week then listing on crypto-sportsbook, it will be 1 or 2 days before the fight.

I agree with that. Since there are now reports that Donaire vs Inoue rematch is likely to happen and almost close to happening, Casimero should be fired up and do everything to win his Title Defense in order for his name to be included as the next one to face either of the tow after their rematch.

I actually do not see Paul Butler defeating either Inoue or Donaire here just in case he upset Casimero on this match.

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Quote from: harizen on March 08, 2022, 06:59:22 PM

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They don't train for long just to be disqualify and miss that weighing requirement before the match that they've been waiting.

Unfortunately, that's not what happened to Casimero after training for long.

His medical condition spoils all the training he had and the worst, his title is now put in jeopardy.

If he failed to miss the weigh-in again, his WBO title will now be finally stripped and be vacant.

That's bad but I'm still believing that things would be normal when the day comes. If we are on his shoe, we're probably thinking the same that all of his efforts shouldn't be in vain.

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Let's wish him all the best for his health and it's been a long time already and he had been able to take a rest. Just hopefully, it won't be something bad during the actual fight night.

Right. Him being healthy is now on the hands of those persons who are responsible on doing it. Aside from that, Casimero should also take part being a responsible now to take care everything about his health.

We are looking forward for this fight to happen. Seeing delays really suc*ed especially we are sick of seeing it during the pandemic.

Yeah, he should take care of himself and don't go that far with his training and other activities since he's on the stage of being vital. There is really nothing we can do but to hope that he'd be clear of it and the match would end successfully favoring him.

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I don't see any odds yet, maybe when the fight gets closer, for sure my favorite sports bookies are going to list it. But I have a feeling that Casimero will be the favorite, for obvious reason. And with the news that Donaire vs Inoue rematch will happen, I do hope that Casimero will be motivated to really break down Butler in this fight so that he will have a chance to fight Inoue (if Inoue wins against Donaire).

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There's no doubt that even if this anticipated fight between Casimero vs. Butler had been postponed and rescheduled for a long time because of some health issue that rises up to Casimero boxing fans still wanted to push this fight through and see Casimero win this game. So good to know that this fight was resumed but then with another issue related to again to Casimero I guess as much as he handled this case properly this will not be one of the reasons again to be the hindrance for his upcoming fight.

It's not that long, there's a month of preparation for both of them.

That consideration given to Casimero due to his health situation was already a bonus to him and he's still given that prior to his match. It's been announced a few months ago and this match will still push.

Casimero is on the training camp already but I have no updates on what Butler does these days but pretty sure he's also on his training.

If Butler opted to have a fight with another boxer, I'm sure Casimero will be on a big trouble today, but since Butler also want to fight Casimero he waited for him patiently.

Less than a month before they face in the ring, I hope both of them will be qualified on weighting day and no more health issues because I want to see Casimero to win and face Inoue on his next fight.

Butler was offered to fight another fighter in replacement of Casimero, but he chooses not to and wait for Casimero so that the opportunity is still there to win a belt.

Or someone just advise him to just sit it up and wait till everything settles down. And it was a good decision on their part, as the WBO gives the signal to resume the fight for next month.

If Butler and his camp accepted the offer then Casimero is really on a dangerous situation because he could lose that belt as he is really obliged to follow the WBO's decision and good thing he was given a 2nd chance after he was hospitalized just a few hours before the weigh-in.
Butler on the other hand did the right decision to wait for Casimero for another couple of months, I guess Butler really want to prove something on Casimero or he was just after the belt after all.

Casimero is also a threat to Butler and we can't blame him if he's willing to wait that long just to pursue his fight with Casimero. It will also be a good thing that Casimero would never lose the chance to have a match with him since he's been also waiting for this milestone. I'm sure that no matter how long it may take, they will still find ways to pursue this match.

Both are threats to each other and one way or the other, only one will come out victorious in the ring and the other one will suffer the consequence from being defeated as it could highly affect its boxing career and its future cash flow.
Yes it was a good thing that Butler declined the offer because Casimero would really be in distress if ever that fight happened. Butler also knows that he can't benefit from the fight if he's going to accept it as only Casimero is his only key for success, so his best choice is to wait for Casimero to recover and fight him this April.

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Butler on the other hand did the right decision to wait for Casimero for another couple of months, I guess Butler really want to prove something on Casimero or he was just after the belt after all.

Both, he wants to win to get the belt, otherwise, he would just fight the replacement but he won't benefit since there's no belt in a certain fight. Now is his chance, it doesn't matter if it's delayed, as long as he will continue his training and do the right strategy in the fight, he certainly has a decent chance to win.

Yes, I know that. Aside that he's after for Casimero's belt, maybe this is also a personal business for Butler because as I said, he want to prove something on Casimero and that's the main reason behind the waiting, the belt is just a second reason. Well, whatever it is, they will surely have a showdown next month and see who will win.

I like to see how he will prove himself to Casimero, hopefully, he will not be the same as Rigo who is only good at talking but not in the ring. If you saw the fight, you would really feel bored, so we hope that it will not happen here and it will be more entertaining if we will see a KO win.

As the saying goes, it takes two to tango, and Rigo is not willing to dance with Casimero so instead he uses what he knows best, play defense and run which doesn't suited most of the boxing fans as his style is boring.

But Butler is not Rigo, and he will be finding in his home soil. So he doesn't want to be boo'ed in his own town. So I think he will go and fight Casimero toe to toe and see who is the last man standing in this fight.

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Butler on the other hand did the right decision to wait for Casimero for another couple of months, I guess Butler really want to prove something on Casimero or he was just after the belt after all.

Both, he wants to win to get the belt, otherwise, he would just fight the replacement but he won't benefit since there's no belt in a certain fight. Now is his chance, it doesn't matter if it's delayed, as long as he will continue his training and do the right strategy in the fight, he certainly has a decent chance to win.

Yes, I know that. Aside that he's after for Casimero's belt, maybe this is also a personal business for Butler because as I said, he want to prove something on Casimero and that's the main reason behind the waiting, the belt is just a second reason. Well, whatever it is, they will surely have a showdown next month and see who will win.

I like to see how he will prove himself to Casimero, hopefully, he will not be the same as Rigo who is only good at talking but not in the ring. If you saw the fight, you would really feel bored, so we hope that it will not happen here and it will be more entertaining if we will see a KO win.

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Butler on the other hand did the right decision to wait for Casimero for another couple of months, I guess Butler really want to prove something on Casimero or he was just after the belt after all.

Both, he wants to win to get the belt, otherwise, he would just fight the replacement but he won't benefit since there's no belt in a certain fight. Now is his chance, it doesn't matter if it's delayed, as long as he will continue his training and do the right strategy in the fight, he certainly has a decent chance to win.

Yes, I know that. Aside that he's after for Casimero's belt, maybe this is also a personal business for Butler because as I said, he want to prove something on Casimero and that's the main reason behind the waiting, the belt is just a second reason. Well, whatever it is, they will surely have a showdown next month and see who will win.

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There's no doubt that even if this anticipated fight between Casimero vs. Butler had been postponed and rescheduled for a long time because of some health issue that rises up to Casimero boxing fans still wanted to push this fight through and see Casimero win this game. So good to know that this fight was resumed but then with another issue related to again to Casimero I guess as much as he handled this case properly this will not be one of the reasons again to be the hindrance for his upcoming fight.

It's not that long, there's a month of preparation for both of them.

That consideration given to Casimero due to his health situation was already a bonus to him and he's still given that prior to his match. It's been announced a few months ago and this match will still push.

Casimero is on the training camp already but I have no updates on what Butler does these days but pretty sure he's also on his training.

If Butler opted to have a fight with another boxer, I'm sure Casimero will be on a big trouble today, but since Butler also want to fight Casimero he waited for him patiently.

Less than a month before they face in the ring, I hope both of them will be qualified on weighting day and no more health issues because I want to see Casimero to win and face Inoue on his next fight.

Butler was offered to fight another fighter in replacement of Casimero, but he chooses not to and wait for Casimero so that the opportunity is still there to win a belt.

Or someone just advise him to just sit it up and wait till everything settles down. And it was a good decision on their part, as the WBO gives the signal to resume the fight for next month.

If Butler and his camp accepted the offer then Casimero is really on a dangerous situation because he could lose that belt as he is really obliged to follow the WBO's decision and good thing he was given a 2nd chance after he was hospitalized just a few hours before the weigh-in.
Butler on the other hand did the right decision to wait for Casimero for another couple of months, I guess Butler really want to prove something on Casimero or he was just after the belt after all.

Casimero is also a threat to Butler and we can't blame him if he's willing to wait that long just to pursue his fight with Casimero. It will also be a good thing that Casimero would never lose the chance to have a match with him since he's been also waiting for this milestone. I'm sure that no matter how long it may take, they will still find ways to pursue this match.

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Butler on the other hand did the right decision to wait for Casimero for another couple of months, I guess Butler really want to prove something on Casimero or he was just after the belt after all.

Both, he wants to win to get the belt, otherwise, he would just fight the replacement but he won't benefit since there's no belt in a certain fight. Now is his chance, it doesn't matter if it's delayed, as long as he will continue his training and do the right strategy in the fight, he certainly has a decent chance to win.

Getting the belt and becoming the champion will make Butler get a bigger opportunity in the next fight, usually, the champion makes bigger money against his opponent, so Butler surely wants to be in the position which Casimero is currently holding.

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Yes, mostly the justice ain't served right because alleged victim have succeed from milking its target or yet they have the right connections to do so.

That's the justice system in the Philippines...

They say, justice delayed means justice denied.

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Any updates about this? I searched it on the internet but there's no update about it. Maybe they had fixed it already and paid the damages or whatsoever even if Casimero isn't proven guilty because as you guys said, it would take most of his time to attend trials in courts instead of preparing or resting so it's also possible that they've paid the complainant to cool down the issue.
If not then he should deal with it sooner because knowing the justice system in the Philippines, most of the time, they will side with the victim especially when it's about rape or sexual abuse. I hope this case against him will cease as soon as possible if Casimero is indeed not really guilty about it because I'm afraid he will be jailed just like Albert Pagara.

No update but I also see the same thing, maybe Casimero deal with it behind doors, a good offer to solve this issue or the legal

counsel of him are doing quite moves to solve this issue without any interference from mainstream medias, you said it right, the

justice system mostly siding with the victims but it can also turn things in favor of him if the price is right.

I thought so too! The news haven't gone up so I guess they have already dealt with it with a good offer that the alleged victim can't refuse and it's good because Casimero's reputation and career is not heavily scratched from that issue.

With money, anything is possible, Casimero is a millionaire, so it's easy for him to settle this case with his money and resources. No more update means good update of this fight as Casimero will not be distracted while on training.

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Yes, mostly the justice ain't served right because alleged victim have succeed from milking its target or yet they have the right connections to do so.

That's the justice system in the Philippines...

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Quote from: Rufsilf on March 07, 2022, 10:53:29 AM

Any updates about this? I searched it on the internet but there's no update about it. Maybe they had fixed it already and paid the damages or whatsoever even if Casimero isn't proven guilty because as you guys said, it would take most of his time to attend trials in courts instead of preparing or resting so it's also possible that they've paid the complainant to cool down the issue.
If not then he should deal with it sooner because knowing the justice system in the Philippines, most of the time, they will side with the victim especially when it's about rape or sexual abuse. I hope this case against him will cease as soon as possible if Casimero is indeed not really guilty about it because I'm afraid he will be jailed just like Albert Pagara.

No update but I also see the same thing, maybe Casimero deal with it behind doors, a good offer to solve this issue or the legal

counsel of him are doing quite moves to solve this issue without any interference from mainstream medias, you said it right, the

justice system mostly siding with the victims but it can also turn things in favor of him if the price is right.

I thought so too! The news haven't gone up so I guess they have already dealt with it with a good offer that the alleged victim can't refuse and it's good because Casimero's reputation and career is not heavily scratched from that issue.
Yes, mostly the justice ain't served right because alleged victim have succeed from milking its target or yet they have the right connections to do so.

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Quote from: Russlenat on March 09, 2022, 05:27:32 AM

Butler on the other hand did the right decision to wait for Casimero for another couple of months, I guess Butler really want to prove something on Casimero or he was just after the belt after all.

Both, he wants to win to get the belt, otherwise, he would just fight the replacement but he won't benefit since there's no belt in a certain fight. Now is his chance, it doesn't matter if it's delayed, as long as he will continue his training and do the right strategy in the fight, he certainly has a decent chance to win.

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Quote from: molsewid on March 06, 2022, 11:08:06 AM

There's no doubt that even if this anticipated fight between Casimero vs. Butler had been postponed and rescheduled for a long time because of some health issue that rises up to Casimero boxing fans still wanted to push this fight through and see Casimero win this game. So good to know that this fight was resumed but then with another issue related to again to Casimero I guess as much as he handled this case properly this will not be one of the reasons again to be the hindrance for his upcoming fight.

It's not that long, there's a month of preparation for both of them.

That consideration given to Casimero due to his health situation was already a bonus to him and he's still given that prior to his match. It's been announced a few months ago and this match will still push.

Casimero is on the training camp already but I have no updates on what Butler does these days but pretty sure he's also on his training.

If Butler opted to have a fight with another boxer, I'm sure Casimero will be on a big trouble today, but since Butler also want to fight Casimero he waited for him patiently.

Less than a month before they face in the ring, I hope both of them will be qualified on weighting day and no more health issues because I want to see Casimero to win and face Inoue on his next fight.

Butler was offered to fight another fighter in replacement of Casimero, but he chooses not to and wait for Casimero so that the opportunity is still there to win a belt.

Or someone just advise him to just sit it up and wait till everything settles down. And it was a good decision on their part, as the WBO gives the signal to resume the fight for next month.

If Butler and his camp accepted the offer then Casimero is really on a dangerous situation because he could lose that belt as he is really obliged to follow the WBO's decision and good thing he was given a 2nd chance after he was hospitalized just a few hours before the weigh-in.
Butler on the other hand did the right decision to wait for Casimero for another couple of months, I guess Butler really want to prove something on Casimero or he was just after the belt after all.

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Quote from: boyptc on March 08, 2022, 05:38:05 PM

They don't train for long just to be disqualify and miss that weighing requirement before the match that they've been waiting.

Unfortunately, that's not what happened to Casimero after training for long.

His medical condition spoils all the training he had and the worst, his title is now put in jeopardy.

If he failed to miss the weigh-in again, his WBO title will now be finally stripped and be vacant.

Quote from: boyptc on March 08, 2022, 05:38:05 PM

Let's wish him all the best for his health and it's been a long time already and he had been able to take a rest. Just hopefully, it won't be something bad during the actual fight night.

Right. Him being healthy is now on the hands of those persons who are responsible on doing it. Aside from that, Casimero should also take part being a responsible now to take care everything about his health.

We are looking forward for this fight to happen. Seeing delays really suc*ed especially we are sick of seeing it during the pandemic.

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