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Quote from: agustina2 on March 19, 2022, 08:28:16 AM

No doubt that if the fight will happen between Inoue and Casimero, it would be in the 4th Quarter of this year.

But before that, Casimero should win first against Paul Butler. The result of Inoue vs Donaire also might change Casimero's next match if ever he won because the scenario will be, if Donaire will able to upset Inoue, there will be a sure rematch and that will be prioritized first compare facing Casimero.

Casimero has to wait until next year if Donaire will win. If not, then we can now expect that he will face Inoue later this year.

Well to be honest a fight scheduled on 4th quarter is quite an anticipating fight that of course the promoter should place a boxer or fighter that really has a famous name to you know be the highlight of the years end fight. And I believe scheduling Casimero vs. Inoue at that fight schedule will be a great schedule choice because boxing fans are really exciting for the face off of these two fighters. I can't wait to see these two inside the ring and let's witness who is the great fighter among them.

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Quote from: passwordnow on March 18, 2022, 04:48:30 PM

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Right, Casimero's mouth can be back by his fighting skills and that's what makes him different from others who only know how to talk and that's also why we cannot blame the way he talk because his actions also speaks for himself and he has every right to boast about it.

It's already on his character and that's why if he talks bad and he really means, he really means what he's saying and he has to prove that he's not all talk and cheap.

Quote from: freedomgo on March 18, 2022, 10:27:11 AM

Somehow I think he now knows when to talk but I'm just not so certain about that, the thing why he's so silent now because maybe he was advised to keep some distance for a while from the people and social media so that he can be more focus on his training or maybe there's a surprise behind this, who knows.

That's good with him right now. Before he's going to talk even if it's no need to talk but he knows also when to become silent. People are starting to notice that unlike before, he's unstoppable when he's talking trash to his opponents.

Right, being talkative is already embedded in his character to the point that he's still trying to talk big even if he cannot talk in straight english language but I completely understand him because he was just also trying to prove some point.

I also noticed that lately, I really hope that he got some good sense and matured now to only talk when needed.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on March 19, 2022, 07:59:00 AM

4th quarter is the best target because it's possible that Inoue will fight Donaire first, and if he wins then there are only two champions in the bantamweight division and therefore it's a big chance for either Inoue or Casimero to be an undisputed champion.

No doubt that if the fight will happen between Inoue and Casimero, it would be in the 4th Quarter of this year.

But before that, Casimero should win first against Paul Butler. The result of Inoue vs Donaire also might change Casimero's next match if ever he won because the scenario will be, if Donaire will able to upset Inoue, there will be a sure rematch and that will be prioritized first compare facing Casimero.

Casimero has to wait until next year if Donaire will win. If not, then we can now expect that he will face Inoue later this year.

That's right, promoters might prioritize the trilogy because they will make money from that compared to the Inoue vs Casimero match. That's a smart thought man, it never came into my mind and I say there's really a big possibility that we will see that kind of scenario, so let's hope Donaire will lose.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on March 19, 2022, 07:59:00 AM

4th quarter is the best target because it's possible that Inoue will fight Donaire first, and if he wins then there are only two champions in the bantamweight division and therefore it's a big chance for either Inoue or Casimero to be an undisputed champion.

No doubt that if the fight will happen between Inoue and Casimero, it would be in the 4th Quarter of this year.

But before that, Casimero should win first against Paul Butler. The result of Inoue vs Donaire also might change Casimero's next match if ever he won because the scenario will be, if Donaire will able to upset Inoue, there will be a sure rematch and that will be prioritized first compare facing Casimero.

Casimero has to wait until next year if Donaire will win. If not, then we can now expect that he will face Inoue later this year.

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That's one thing to be proud of despite the backlashes and people that dislike him for showing the true attitude that he has. 1 month left and we're going to see them spar.

Fans do not want a fighter who does trash-talk, therefore we should get used to it. However, we cannot deny that Casimero is one of the best boxers in the PH, and despite his attitude in boxing, he can still be something that we should be proud of. People stop talking about him but if he will beat Butler then we should expect that the talks between Casimero and Inoue will again relieve.

I guess there are fans who wanted to hear fighters trash talk, but not someone from PH though, Manny didn't trash talk to any of his opponents as far as I can remember, he just smile and then let his fist do the talking. So Casimero being an PH fighter should follow the norm. But I guess he wanted to be different from the rest of the PH fighters and he chooses to do trash talking, it become effective to some extend but now it doesn't sound good, literally.

And others now looked at trash-talking by Casimero as bad karma to what happened to him.

He trash-talks Donaire's wife, no fight.
He trash-talks Inoue, no fight.
He said that no need for training against Butler, he ended up failing the weigh-in.

People around Casimero might tell him to shut up his mouth for the meantime and just focus on the preparation of the fight. There's no other trashtalk we hear after that failure in weigh-in a day before the fight with Paul Butler.

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Quote from: mirakal on March 18, 2022, 07:54:13 AM

The only thing left is that he will defeat Butler next month so that he can fully rest after acquiring the said viral disease.

No rest is needed for him, with the long gap of time before this match, I think he already rested a lot. I like to see him be busy contacting the camp of Inoue to schedule a fight because people are tired of speculating, they want to see a big fight in this boring weight class.

Yes, I think he already got some good rest for more than a month after he had that viral gastritis and was hospitalized last December. You know as an athlete or professional boxer like Casimero their body has been developed to conquer diseases like that in just a small amount of time, so I guess that should be enough because otherwise he wouldn't be training now for this upcoming fight if his body cannot handle it.

Well I hope that Inoue vs Casimero fight will happen this year sometime in 3rd or 4th quarter of the year and hopefully Bob Arum will agree.

4th quarter is the best target because it's possible that Inoue will fight Donaire first, and if he wins then there are only two champions in the bantamweight division and therefore it's a big chance for either Inoue or Casimero to be an undisputed champion.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on March 18, 2022, 08:09:41 AM

Quote from: mirakal on March 18, 2022, 07:54:13 AM

The only thing left is that he will defeat Butler next month so that he can fully rest after acquiring the said viral disease.

No rest is needed for him, with the long gap of time before this match, I think he already rested a lot. I like to see him be busy contacting the camp of Inoue to schedule a fight because people are tired of speculating, they want to see a big fight in this boring weight class.

Yes, I think he already got some good rest for more than a month after he had that viral gastritis and was hospitalized last December. You know as an athlete or professional boxer like Casimero their body has been developed to conquer diseases like that in just a small amount of time, so I guess that should be enough because otherwise he wouldn't be training now for this upcoming fight if his body cannot handle it.

Well I hope that Inoue vs Casimero fight will happen this year sometime in 3rd or 4th quarter of the year and hopefully Bob Arum will agree.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on March 19, 2022, 06:25:04 AM

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That's one thing to be proud of despite the backlashes and people that dislike him for showing the true attitude that he has. 1 month left and we're going to see them spar.

Fans do not want a fighter who does trash-talk, therefore we should get used to it. However, we cannot deny that Casimero is one of the best boxers in the PH, and despite his attitude in boxing, he can still be something that we should be proud of. People stop talking about him but if he will beat Butler then we should expect that the talks between Casimero and Inoue will again relieve.

I guess there are fans who wanted to hear fighters trash talk, but not someone from PH though, Manny didn't trash talk to any of his opponents as far as I can remember, he just smile and then let his fist do the talking. So Casimero being an PH fighter should follow the norm. But I guess he wanted to be different from the rest of the PH fighters and he chooses to do trash talking, it become effective to some extend but now it doesn't sound good, literally.

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Quote from: passwordnow on March 19, 2022, 06:19:20 AM

That's one thing to be proud of despite the backlashes and people that dislike him for showing the true attitude that he has. 1 month left and we're going to see them spar.

Fans do not want a fighter who does trash-talk, therefore we should get used to it. However, we cannot deny that Casimero is one of the best boxers in the PH, and despite his attitude in boxing, he can still be something that we should be proud of. People stop talking about him but if he will beat Butler then we should expect that the talks between Casimero and Inoue will again relieve.

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Quote from: Russlenat on March 19, 2022, 05:44:40 AM

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Quote from: freedomgo on March 18, 2022, 10:27:11 AM

Right, Casimero's mouth can be back by his fighting skills and that's what makes him different from others who only know how to talk and that's also why we cannot blame the way he talk because his actions also speaks for himself and he has every right to boast about it.

It's already on his character and that's why if he talks bad and he really means, he really means what he's saying and he has to prove that he's not all talk and cheap.

That's him and we should not hate him because it's his personal style. What's important is he brings honor to our country, becoming a champion is not easy but Casimero did all the hard work in order to achieve his goal. We want to see him fight a champion too, but that would not happen if the promoter will just solely focus on the money and not risk their fighter's record.

Yes, no need to hate him. That's simply him and we should embrace his attitude and being him. As a champion, he really gives pride to the people and his country.
That's one thing to be proud of despite the backlashes and people that dislike him for showing the true attitude that he has. 1 month left and we're going to see them spar.

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Quote from: freedomgo on March 18, 2022, 10:27:11 AM

Right, Casimero's mouth can be back by his fighting skills and that's what makes him different from others who only know how to talk and that's also why we cannot blame the way he talk because his actions also speaks for himself and he has every right to boast about it.

It's already on his character and that's why if he talks bad and he really means, he really means what he's saying and he has to prove that he's not all talk and cheap.

That's him and we should not hate him because it's his personal style. What's important is he brings honor to our country, becoming a champion is not easy but Casimero did all the hard work in order to achieve his goal. We want to see him fight a champion too, but that would not happen if the promoter will just solely focus on the money and not risk their fighter's record.

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Quote from: freedomgo on March 18, 2022, 10:27:11 AM

Right, Casimero's mouth can be back by his fighting skills and that's what makes him different from others who only know how to talk and that's also why we cannot blame the way he talk because his actions also speaks for himself and he has every right to boast about it.

It's already on his character and that's why if he talks bad and he really means, he really means what he's saying and he has to prove that he's not all talk and cheap.

Quote from: freedomgo on March 18, 2022, 10:27:11 AM

Somehow I think he now knows when to talk but I'm just not so certain about that, the thing why he's so silent now because maybe he was advised to keep some distance for a while from the people and social media so that he can be more focus on his training or maybe there's a surprise behind this, who knows.

That's good with him right now. Before he's going to talk even if it's no need to talk but he knows also when to become silent. People are starting to notice that unlike before, he's unstoppable when he's talking trash to his opponents.

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Quote from: passwordnow on March 17, 2022, 02:52:25 PM

Quote from: Sanitough on March 17, 2022, 12:41:41 PM

I also believed that it's much better if Casimero learns to be more observant without the need to open his mouth. But like as you both guys said, Casimero has proved many times that he is not just for talk because he can also make it happen and beat his opponents on their own soil and the one who's going home bringing the glory and belt.

I think it's almost impossible that Casimero will learn to behave, even if he lose I'm definitely sure that he will talk even bigger.

He has something to prove and he's different from other boxers that are just all talk. At least with him, when he boasts, there's really something to boast.
But I do agree that he has to behave and I'm sure that it's not impossible, he can do that. It's just all about that his attitude is like that but if there's a need to keep silent, he'll be silent.

Right, Casimero's mouth can be back by his fighting skills and that's what makes him different from others who only know how to talk and that's also why we cannot blame the way he talk because his actions also speaks for himself and he has every right to boast about it.

Quote from: passwordnow on March 17, 2022, 02:52:25 PM

It's just all about that his attitude is like that but if there's a need to keep silent, he'll be silent.

Somehow I think he now knows when to talk but I'm just not so certain about that, the thing why he's so silent now because maybe he was advised to keep some distance for a while from the people and social media so that he can be more focus on his training or maybe there's a surprise behind this, who knows.

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Quote from: mirakal on March 18, 2022, 07:54:13 AM

The only thing left is that he will defeat Butler next month so that he can fully rest after acquiring the said viral disease.

No rest is needed for him, with the long gap of time before this match, I think he already rested a lot. I like to see him be busy contacting the camp of Inoue to schedule a fight because people are tired of speculating, they want to see a big fight in this boring weight class.

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He needs to get this fight on his favor to maximize the chances of fighting Inoue sometime this year soon. About Casimero's nutrionist and conditioning coach, I saw a video on YouTube that MP Promotions have selected Jeneath Aro to be his nutritionist and that they won't give Casimero some slack because Butler is a former champion too.

Jeneath Aro is a good nutritionist too and if I'm correct she is the nutritionist of Magsayo as well. What Casimero really needed in this Butler fight is a good nutritionist as we all know that he is gaining weight far from his fight weight whenever he is on a break which could entail heavy work to bring back to his weight limit for a fight thus causing him troubles.

I'm mentioning this on my previous post that the real opponent of Casimero is himself. If he could get his weight limit before a fight with a well condition body then Butler will have trouble in the ring facing him.

Correct, she's so good that almost everyone she helped had a medal and have win just like what she did to Hidilyn Diaz, she's also the conditioning coach and nutritionist for Magsayo. Good thing that Casimero have her on his back to watch his weight because as you said, Casimero is really having some difficulties on his weight as he can gain fast even if he just rest for a bit.

That might be a catch for Butler. Aro knows how to work with his clients

Having her inside Casimero's camp, the fighting chance is high, monitoring his weight and have a good routine
to make sure that everything will be working together, both body and all those foods and supplements are well
Monitored. If Casimero will be fit before the fight, Butler will be in trouble knowing how Casimero moves inside
the ring he's still on his prime and his speed and strength are big factors why he still has his belt.

We can definitely tell that Casimero is in the good hands now, you know she's one of the few best nutritionist and conditioning coach in the country that is already proven and certified by other top athletes who also competes with other nationalities. So having her is surely a plus in the team because Casimero's team now is not that worried anymore.

The only thing left is that he will defeat Butler next month so that he can fully rest after acquiring the said viral disease.

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Yeah, but it's better for Casimero not to talk that way, it will just sway fans of him because they are not used to seeing him attacking his opponents with trash talk.

He is already known in the boxing scene before because he has the courage to go to the opponents home soil and beat them up. He should just continue doing this like in the Paul Butler fight because trash talking might back fire on him.

Casimero is now being known not just as a good boxer but also a man full of talk, a trash talk to his opponents by the way lol. I mean, it's truly better for him to not talk that way, trash-talking will not going to help him to become a great fighter by the way, and will not probably going to help him to win the battle against Butler or against whoever opponents he will going to fight inside the ring. Instead of wasting his time to trash talk his opponents he should better use his energy to his training that way it could greatly help him to his upcoming fight.

I bet his own camp and promotional team have also tackled to lessen the way on how Casimero's should mouth or about the way he talks and certainly nothing happened about that because he is still talking big, so I guess we can't really do nothing about it because Casimero is been always like that already but the good thing is that he is not just full of talk because he can also bring that to the ring and defeat his opponent.

Let the man be, it was just his own way to get in other peoples head for his advantage.

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I've been watch most of the game by Casimero and it has a good preparation and gives a good output in every match in that cases he have a previous issue way back to December and i guess his already makes a full recovery with that i guess enough of having almost three months of make a break and now defending his title for this upcoming April if I'm not mistaken lets see if we got another title holder a defending champion.

For sure he is fully recovered, otherwise, they won't announce a fight for him. And yes, it's April as per report, so keep that excitement still because the fight schedule is approaching and we will see Casimero again showing his dominance in the ring.

it's expected that he can show his dominance in the ring because Butler is not going to run like Rigo.
However, we have to remember that Casimero is not fighting in the US, he will be in the home court of the enemy, so that's a big challenge for him although we know that he has been a road warrior ever since.

A huge challenge for fighting on opponents territory since its he might not do a extra curricular activities inside the ring just like what he did on his past opponents since he experience to get harassed by the fans before. But I believe this will never happen at this fight knowing that this will consider as a big match and they will give a respect to both boxers.

Casimero is the champion, the last time he won on the road was against a champion and that was Tete. So, if we based on his part performance, if he was able to beat Tete who apparently beat Butler, this fight should not be hard for Casimero. The only thing that is probably hard for him is getting the right weight during the weigh in night.

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Quote from: Vaculin on March 18, 2022, 06:38:06 AM

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I've been watch most of the game by Casimero and it has a good preparation and gives a good output in every match in that cases he have a previous issue way back to December and i guess his already makes a full recovery with that i guess enough of having almost three months of make a break and now defending his title for this upcoming April if I'm not mistaken lets see if we got another title holder a defending champion.

For sure he is fully recovered, otherwise, they won't announce a fight for him. And yes, it's April as per report, so keep that excitement still because the fight schedule is approaching and we will see Casimero again showing his dominance in the ring.

it's expected that he can show his dominance in the ring because Butler is not going to run like Rigo.
However, we have to remember that Casimero is not fighting in the US, he will be in the home court of the enemy, so that's a big challenge for him although we know that he has been a road warrior ever since.

A huge challenge for fighting on opponents territory since its he might not do a extra curricular activities inside the ring just like what he did on his past opponents since he experience to get harassed by the fans before. But I believe this will never happen at this fight knowing that this will consider as a big match and they will give a respect to both boxers.

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Quote from: Finestream on March 18, 2022, 05:08:44 AM

Quote from: Peanutswar on March 18, 2022, 01:02:45 AM

I've been watch most of the game by Casimero and it has a good preparation and gives a good output in every match in that cases he have a previous issue way back to December and i guess his already makes a full recovery with that i guess enough of having almost three months of make a break and now defending his title for this upcoming April if I'm not mistaken lets see if we got another title holder a defending champion.

For sure he is fully recovered, otherwise, they won't announce a fight for him. And yes, it's April as per report, so keep that excitement still because the fight schedule is approaching and we will see Casimero again showing his dominance in the ring.

it's expected that he can show his dominance in the ring because Butler is not going to run like Rigo.
However, we have to remember that Casimero is not fighting in the US, he will be in the home court of the enemy, so that's a big challenge for him although we know that he has been a road warrior ever since.

Quote from: Finestream on March 18, 2022, 05:08:44 AM

No trash-talk from him now, that's quite new from him, maybe he has other plans. Grin

Maybe soon we will hear from him, still a month to go before the fight, their tour has not started yet so no more talking for now.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on March 18, 2022, 01:02:45 AM

I've been watch most of the game by Casimero and it has a good preparation and gives a good output in every match in that cases he have a previous issue way back to December and i guess his already makes a full recovery with that i guess enough of having almost three months of make a break and now defending his title for this upcoming April if I'm not mistaken lets see if we got another title holder a defending champion.

For sure he is fully recovered, otherwise, they won't announce a fight for him. And yes, it's April as per report, so keep that excitement still because the fight schedule is approaching and we will see Casimero again showing his dominance in the ring.

No trash-talk from him now, that's quite new from him, maybe he has other plans. Grin

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