[Boxing]: Sultan vs Butler - WBO Bantamweight Interim title fight. - page 44.

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Yeah, Casimero is doing a little bit of training here in Cebu but i think he will continue training in the US if things work out well with Sean Gibbons. There is an advantage if he will train in the US as his long time conditioning coach is there and he is the one who knows well on how to handle Casimero's nutrition and conditioning before the fight.

I don't think that he has medical condition, it's just that he has having a hard time losing weight that is why he have trouble with his body thus resulting in him being admitted to the hospital.

Isn't it wiser for him to just train where the fight will happen in England so that he won't be able to push himself out of those traveling exhaustion?
I think that's a better idea if there's still some plans to go to US instead of England. The weariness of his body and just after he has recovered, flight after flight might just give his body tiredness.

I agree that it would be wiser to train in the place where the fight will happen but Team Casimero is working on a limited budget here.

It will entail a huge cost if he set-up a training camp in England as he have to bring in his nutritionist which by the way is in the US who is also busy doing some other stuff.

I think they will fly to the venue two weeks before the fight to get acquainted with the harsh weather of England hehe.

I see so there's a schedule for them. I think if it's about the budget, his team can keep that up because the stress that can be put to his body might affect his condition on the fight night.
But if that's their strategy, I know that they know what's best for Casimero's situation if they have to go to USA first before proceeding to England.

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That will be the basis on their next action so that the said incident would never happen again. And also for sure Casimero will be careful on what he do since he might lose the chance to fight Inoue for this if he fail to make this fight happen and defeat Butler on a impressive win situation. We know how strong Casimero is so for sure he take note on things he need to do and comeback stronger for that fight.

You cannot lay down your defense when you are expected to fight a potential legend like Inoue and you will take precautions about your training and diet in any way possible. If he does not take his opponent seriously, he won't have a chance to fight a high-rank opponent and he also loses his chance to climb to the top. Hope that he recovers and has the confidence to build himself again. the fight is now delayed and he really needs to fix his condition if he really wants to fight with Inoue this year.

Every opponent is important so you need to have a good show to hype up your name especially when you are chasing up a fight so its good for Casimero to put more effort to make the fight between them and Inoue to happen. Casimero need to stay healthy first at defeat Butler so that he have good record to have and fans also the camp of Inoue will get interest negotiate with them again to make this big match to happen again.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 08, 2022, 04:47:01 PM

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 08, 2022, 04:31:52 PM

Yeah, Casimero is doing a little bit of training here in Cebu but i think he will continue training in the US if things work out well with Sean Gibbons. There is an advantage if he will train in the US as his long time conditioning coach is there and he is the one who knows well on how to handle Casimero's nutrition and conditioning before the fight.

I don't think that he has medical condition, it's just that he has having a hard time losing weight that is why he have trouble with his body thus resulting in him being admitted to the hospital.

Isn't it wiser for him to just train where the fight will happen in England so that he won't be able to push himself out of those traveling exhaustion?
I think that's a better idea if there's still some plans to go to US instead of England. The weariness of his body and just after he has recovered, flight after flight might just give his body tiredness.

I agree that it would be wiser to train in the place where the fight will happen but Team Casimero is working on a limited budget here.

It will entail a huge cost if he set-up a training camp in England as he have to bring in his nutritionist which by the way is in the US who is also busy doing some other stuff.

I think they will fly to the venue two weeks before the fight to get acquainted with the harsh weather of England hehe.

Weather in England is somewhat not really that harsh which is mostly been on Rainfall throughout the year with having temperate with mild summers and winters.

Therefore, i dont really see this much as an issue for the team yet other countries do almost have the same weather condition which it wont really be that a problem
and 2 weeks time of arrival wouldnt really be that too short for them to make out some adjustments.

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Quote from: passwordnow on February 08, 2022, 04:39:18 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on February 08, 2022, 04:31:52 PM

Yeah, Casimero is doing a little bit of training here in Cebu but i think he will continue training in the US if things work out well with Sean Gibbons. There is an advantage if he will train in the US as his long time conditioning coach is there and he is the one who knows well on how to handle Casimero's nutrition and conditioning before the fight.

I don't think that he has medical condition, it's just that he has having a hard time losing weight that is why he have trouble with his body thus resulting in him being admitted to the hospital.

Isn't it wiser for him to just train where the fight will happen in England so that he won't be able to push himself out of those traveling exhaustion?
I think that's a better idea if there's still some plans to go to US instead of England. The weariness of his body and just after he has recovered, flight after flight might just give his body tiredness.

I agree that it would be wiser to train in the place where the fight will happen but Team Casimero is working on a limited budget here.

It will entail a huge cost if he set-up a training camp in England as he have to bring in his nutritionist which by the way is in the US who is also busy doing some other stuff.

I think they will fly to the venue two weeks before the fight to get acquainted with the harsh weather of England hehe.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 08, 2022, 04:31:52 PM

Yeah, Casimero is doing a little bit of training here in Cebu but i think he will continue training in the US if things work out well with Sean Gibbons. There is an advantage if he will train in the US as his long time conditioning coach is there and he is the one who knows well on how to handle Casimero's nutrition and conditioning before the fight.

I don't think that he has medical condition, it's just that he has having a hard time losing weight that is why he have trouble with his body thus resulting in him being admitted to the hospital.

Isn't it wiser for him to just train where the fight will happen in England so that he won't be able to push himself out of those traveling exhaustion?
I think that's a better idea if there's still some plans to go to US instead of England. The weariness of his body and just after he has recovered, flight after flight might just give his body tiredness.

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Quote from: Distinctin on February 08, 2022, 08:18:13 AM

I think he's training with his coach named Nonoy Neri at Mandaue City, correct me if I'm wrong.

I don't know what's the real reason behind why he just trained recently but I believe it's connected to his medical situation that's why he rested for a bit. Casimeros have no more than 8 weeks left to do all his trainings and diet before the schedule weigh-in and fight, I hope everything will go just fine.

Yeah, Casimero is doing a little bit of training here in Cebu but i think he will continue training in the US if things work out well with Sean Gibbons. There is an advantage if he will train in the US as his long time conditioning coach is there and he is the one who knows well on how to handle Casimero's nutrition and conditioning before the fight.

I don't think that he has medical condition, it's just that he has having a hard time losing weight that is why he have trouble with his body thus resulting in him being admitted to the hospital.

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Quote from: agustina2 on February 07, 2022, 07:19:41 PM

That's right. His medical condition has something to do with his diet. Maybe a few weeks before his fight to Butler, Casimero is confident that he won't need to follow his proper diet. I think he even mentioned before that he doesn't need to go fully training against Butler because he thinks the fight will be easy.

And what happened next is karma lol.

We will have to wait and see if this mistake does not lead to his defeat, Casimero is having a lot of troubles getting other fighters on the ring with him and when he was forced to make his mandatory defense this happened, previously the fight was scheduled to take place at Dubai but due to the delay now the fight will be at England, specifically Liverpool, the hometown of Butler is so close that is only 30 minutes away, which means that now the crowd will be against Casimero during the whole fight, and while the crowd cannot affect the fighters directly it could affect the scorecards of the judges.

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Quote from: Distinctin on February 08, 2022, 08:18:13 AM

I think he's training with his coach named Nonoy Neri at Mandaue City, correct me if I'm wrong.

I don't know what's the real reason behind why he just trained recently but I believe it's connected to his medical situation that's why he rested for a bit. Casimeros have no more than 8 weeks left to do all his trainings and diet before the schedule weigh-in and fight, I hope everything will go just fine.

Let's have faith in him, he never fails us down, and I'm sure he will deliver a sweet victory in this fight. It doesn't matter where he trains as long as he is ready for his upcoming fight, let him prove to the people who doubted him that he is still a champion and he deserved a unification fight.

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CEBU CITY, Philippines — The reigning World Boxing Organization (WBO) bantamweight champion John Riel “Quadro Alas” Casimero returned to has Cebu to kick off his training for his April 23 mandatory title defense in England.

Link: https://cebudailynews.inquirer.net/423526/casimero-sets-up-training-camp-in-cebu-for-april-world-title-defense

This article was released 2 days ago and it seems that Casimero started his trainings already in Mandaue City. IMO, he should train in other place or country to help him focus more without being interfered by the fans and hopefully his medical condition has been dealt already so that he can continue his scheduled trainings without setbacks along the way as he can't afford to stop because the fight date is approaching fast.

He really has to start kicking himself for his training because it's just a few months away from his title defense.

I think whether he's in his best condition to train, whether, in that place or another country, that won't matter. What's important is that he's already on his training and preparation for the upcoming fight.

His health condition might change once he landed to another country, so it's better for him to stay there for a while, maybe for a few weeks to a month.

So he is training alone or with someone else? Hmm, it weird but we will have just a couple of weeks before the actual fight and he has just started his training. And then he needs to be in the weight limit as well so Casimero hands is full right now. Hopefully he can straighten things up before his actual fight and hopefully he will be as sharp as his last fight.

I think he's training with his coach named Nonoy Neri at Mandaue City, correct me if I'm wrong.

I don't know what's the real reason behind why he just trained recently but I believe it's connected to his medical situation that's why he rested for a bit. Casimeros have no more than 8 weeks left to do all his trainings and diet before the schedule weigh-in and fight, I hope everything will go just fine.

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Quote from: yazher on February 08, 2022, 07:21:05 AM

Quote from: ultrloa on February 08, 2022, 06:50:56 AM

That will be the basis on their next action so that the said incident would never happen again. And also for sure Casimero will be careful on what he do since he might lose the chance to fight Inoue for this if he fail to make this fight happen and defeat Butler on a impressive win situation. We know how strong Casimero is so for sure he take note on things he need to do and comeback stronger for that fight.

You cannot lay down your defense when you are expected to fight a potential legend like Inoue and you will take precautions about your training and diet in any way possible. If he does not take his opponent seriously, he won't have a chance to fight a high-rank opponent and he also loses his chance to climb to the top. Hope that he recovers and has the confidence to build himself again. the fight is now delayed and he really needs to fix his condition if he really wants to fight with Inoue this year.

The fight was postponed but we now know the schedule of the fight, it's going to happen on April this year and I think it's not too long to wait as I'm sure that would be the final date Casimero is going to defend his title.

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Quote from: ultrloa on February 08, 2022, 06:50:56 AM

That will be the basis on their next action so that the said incident would never happen again. And also for sure Casimero will be careful on what he do since he might lose the chance to fight Inoue for this if he fail to make this fight happen and defeat Butler on a impressive win situation. We know how strong Casimero is so for sure he take note on things he need to do and comeback stronger for that fight.

You cannot lay down your defense when you are expected to fight a potential legend like Inoue and you will take precautions about your training and diet in any way possible. If he does not take his opponent seriously, he won't have a chance to fight a high-rank opponent and he also loses his chance to climb to the top. Hope that he recovers and has the confidence to build himself again. the fight is now delayed and he really needs to fix his condition if he really wants to fight with Inoue this year.

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Quote from: freedomgo on February 07, 2022, 09:35:17 AM

Casimero would not start training if he is not fully healthy now, I guess we should focus more on his training, not on his issue before that resulted in the fight getting postponed, I'm confident that Casimero is 100% healthy going to the fight and he will successfully defend his title.

I disagree with you, bro. Even how hard will be training, once that medical issue strikes again, all that training will be useless. We should focus there and take note of that. It's not a physical injury that he dealt but it's an internal condition that can be experienced again and again. I even think that he is not advised to go all hard when training.

I am also confident that Casimero is 100% healthy on the day of the fight but still, we shouldn't rule out the possibility of his recent condition to back anytime.

Maybe there is an issue with his diet that's why he encounter that issue so maybe he need to address that first before going on deep training so that he can assure that same issue will not happen again, but I believe his trainers will be more careful about his health since many is at risk for him for second time around so for sure Casimero will be in his full health stepping up on the ring.

That's right. His medical condition has something to do with his diet. Maybe a few weeks before his fight to Butler, Casimero is confident that he won't need to follow his proper diet. I think he even mentioned before that he doesn't need to go fully training against Butler because he thinks the fight will be easy.

And what happened next is karma lol.

That will be the basis on their next action so that the said incident would never happen again. And also for sure Casimero will be careful on what he do since he might lose the chance to fight Inoue for this if he fail to make this fight happen and defeat Butler on a impressive win situation. We know how strong Casimero is so for sure he take note on things he need to do and comeback stronger for that fight.

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CEBU CITY, Philippines — The reigning World Boxing Organization (WBO) bantamweight champion John Riel “Quadro Alas” Casimero returned to has Cebu to kick off his training for his April 23 mandatory title defense in England.

Link: https://cebudailynews.inquirer.net/423526/casimero-sets-up-training-camp-in-cebu-for-april-world-title-defense

This article was released 2 days ago and it seems that Casimero started his trainings already in Mandaue City. IMO, he should train in other place or country to help him focus more without being interfered by the fans and hopefully his medical condition has been dealt already so that he can continue his scheduled trainings without setbacks along the way as he can't afford to stop because the fight date is approaching fast.

He really has to start kicking himself for his training because it's just a few months away from his title defense.

I think whether he's in his best condition to train, whether, in that place or another country, that won't matter. What's important is that he's already on his training and preparation for the upcoming fight.

His health condition might change once he landed to another country, so it's better for him to stay there for a while, maybe for a few weeks to a month.

So he is training alone or with someone else? Hmm, it weird but we will have just a couple of weeks before the actual fight and he has just started his training. And then he needs to be in the weight limit as well so Casimero hands is full right now. Hopefully he can straighten things up before his actual fight and hopefully he will be as sharp as his last fight.

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Quote from: boyptc on February 07, 2022, 07:20:50 PM

Quote from: Distinctin on February 07, 2022, 09:46:37 AM

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CEBU CITY, Philippines — The reigning World Boxing Organization (WBO) bantamweight champion John Riel “Quadro Alas” Casimero returned to has Cebu to kick off his training for his April 23 mandatory title defense in England.

Link: https://cebudailynews.inquirer.net/423526/casimero-sets-up-training-camp-in-cebu-for-april-world-title-defense

This article was released 2 days ago and it seems that Casimero started his trainings already in Mandaue City. IMO, he should train in other place or country to help him focus more without being interfered by the fans and hopefully his medical condition has been dealt already so that he can continue his scheduled trainings without setbacks along the way as he can't afford to stop because the fight date is approaching fast.

He really has to start kicking himself for his training because it's just a few months away from his title defense.

I think whether he's in his best condition to train, whether, in that place or another country, that won't matter. What's important is that he's already on his training and preparation for the upcoming fight.

His health condition might change once he landed to another country, so it's better for him to stay there for a while, maybe for a few weeks to a month.

Correct. He needs to start the conditioning of his body and change his mindset towards this fight that Butler is an easy opponent.

As also mentioned by other people here, Casimero needs to find a good conditioning coach that is not just about controlling his diet or strengthening his body but to take things to do outside his training. He needs to be more responsible compared to how he is before.

By the way, can I suggest to OP to change the thread title with the addition of the date of the fight? Thank you.

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Quote from: boyptc on February 07, 2022, 07:20:50 PM

His health condition might change once he landed to another country, so it's better for him to stay there for a while, maybe for a few weeks to a month.

Even without his medical condition, usually, our boxers will just go for training overseas about a month before the scheduled fight. They can't do it by a few weeks before the fight since their body will have to adjust for different timezone and can't resume training right away even they are experienced once.

Regarding his condition, a proper diet is just needed. As far as my research is concerned, there's often "no specific medical treatment for viral gastroenteritis". Treatment first involves self-care measures, such as staying hydrated. Generally, all about diet and not something else.

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Quote from: Distinctin on February 07, 2022, 09:46:37 AM

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CEBU CITY, Philippines — The reigning World Boxing Organization (WBO) bantamweight champion John Riel “Quadro Alas” Casimero returned to has Cebu to kick off his training for his April 23 mandatory title defense in England.

Link: https://cebudailynews.inquirer.net/423526/casimero-sets-up-training-camp-in-cebu-for-april-world-title-defense

This article was released 2 days ago and it seems that Casimero started his trainings already in Mandaue City. IMO, he should train in other place or country to help him focus more without being interfered by the fans and hopefully his medical condition has been dealt already so that he can continue his scheduled trainings without setbacks along the way as he can't afford to stop because the fight date is approaching fast.

He really has to start kicking himself for his training because it's just a few months away from his title defense.

I think whether he's in his best condition to train, whether, in that place or another country, that won't matter. What's important is that he's already on his training and preparation for the upcoming fight.

His health condition might change once he landed to another country, so it's better for him to stay there for a while, maybe for a few weeks to a month.

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Quote from: ultrloa on February 07, 2022, 07:08:26 PM

Quote from: chaser15 on February 07, 2022, 06:34:44 PM

Quote from: freedomgo on February 07, 2022, 09:35:17 AM

Casimero would not start training if he is not fully healthy now, I guess we should focus more on his training, not on his issue before that resulted in the fight getting postponed, I'm confident that Casimero is 100% healthy going to the fight and he will successfully defend his title.

I disagree with you, bro. Even how hard will be training, once that medical issue strikes again, all that training will be useless. We should focus there and take note of that. It's not a physical injury that he dealt but it's an internal condition that can be experienced again and again. I even think that he is not advised to go all hard when training.

I am also confident that Casimero is 100% healthy on the day of the fight but still, we shouldn't rule out the possibility of his recent condition to back anytime.

Maybe there is an issue with his diet that's why he encounter that issue so maybe he need to address that first before going on deep training so that he can assure that same issue will not happen again, but I believe his trainers will be more careful about his health since many is at risk for him for second time around so for sure Casimero will be in his full health stepping up on the ring.

That's right. His medical condition has something to do with his diet. Maybe a few weeks before his fight to Butler, Casimero is confident that he won't need to follow his proper diet. I think he even mentioned before that he doesn't need to go fully training against Butler because he thinks the fight will be easy.

And what happened next is karma lol.

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Quote from: chaser15 on February 07, 2022, 06:34:44 PM

Quote from: freedomgo on February 07, 2022, 09:35:17 AM

Casimero would not start training if he is not fully healthy now, I guess we should focus more on his training, not on his issue before that resulted in the fight getting postponed, I'm confident that Casimero is 100% healthy going to the fight and he will successfully defend his title.

I disagree with you, bro. Even how hard will be training, once that medical issue strikes again, all that training will be useless. We should focus there and take note of that. It's not a physical injury that he dealt but it's an internal condition that can be experienced again and again. I even think that he is not advised to go all hard when training.

I am also confident that Casimero is 100% healthy on the day of the fight but still, we shouldn't rule out the possibility of his recent condition to back anytime.

Maybe there is an issue with his diet that's why he encounter that issue so maybe he need to address that first before going on deep training so that he can assure that same issue will not happen again, but I believe his trainers will be more careful about his health since many is at risk for him for second time around so for sure Casimero will be in his full health stepping up on the ring.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on February 07, 2022, 06:48:57 PM

Some been saying that it was just some sort of reasoning? I dont think so.

It's real since they were able to provide the medical records to the WBO. Casimero's team can't fake it or what. Since it's real, that makes me worry too that it will affect his overall performance.

A quick Google:

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Depending on the cause, viral gastroenteritis symptoms may appear within 1-3 days after you're infected and can range from mild to severe. Symptoms usually last just a day or two, but occasionally they may last up to 14 days.

It means it can happen anytime soon. Casimero needs to work on his proper diet from now on.

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Quote from: chaser15 on February 07, 2022, 06:34:44 PM

Quote from: freedomgo on February 07, 2022, 09:35:17 AM

Casimero would not start training if he is not fully healthy now, I guess we should focus more on his training, not on his issue before that resulted in the fight getting postponed, I'm confident that Casimero is 100% healthy going to the fight and he will successfully defend his title.

I disagree with you, bro. Even how hard will be training, once that medical issue strikes again, all that training will be useless. We should focus there and take note of that. It's not a physical injury that he dealt but it's an internal condition that can be experienced again and again. I even think that he is not advised to go all hard when training.

I am also confident that Casimero is 100% healthy on the day of the fight but still, we shouldn't rule out the possibility of his recent condition to back anytime.

Parts of the risks when it comes to health issues neither external or internal then it would really just be the same thats why im not really that much confident on taking up some bets for Casimero no upcoming

fights but we couldnt really deny that his will to win isnt something that could really be shaken off.It is really just that these health issues do really stop him up.

Some been saying that it was just some sort of reasoning? I dont think so.

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