Topic: [Boxing]: Sultan vs Butler - WBO Bantamweight Interim title fight. - page 49. (Read 9123 times)
February 02, 2022, 05:52:22 AM
^^ That is so true, Arum how to milk his cash cow, so definitely even if Inoue wanted to face Casimero this year, maybe Top Rank is going to hold on that idea and let Inoue face other fighters. And when the time is ripe, when there is the hype then maybe he will allow it. The problem though is that Casimero can't stay at this bantamweight forever and he can't squeeze anymore at this weight. So we will see if this super fight can happen in the future when both fighters are in their prime.
February 01, 2022, 11:45:23 PM
Some good news to Filipino boxing fans out there. Seems like Casimero will be heading to MP Promotions again if things will be okay with him and Sean Gibbons. We can't deny the fact that Quadro Alas is one of the most popular boxer in the Philippines right now because of his antics and boxing style, also the personality and we can say that he is one of a kind so MPP should have him back as Casimero might be their cash cow in the next few years.
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MP Promotions President Sean Gibbons is reportedly trying to patch things up with WBO world bantamweight champion John Riel Casimero before the Filipino’s next fight against Paul Butler on April 23 at a yet to be determined venue in Liverpool, England.
Good for him. MP Promotions will take care of everything. It's just that Casimero is surrounded by so-called professionals who don't how managing a boxer should be done properly. I hope Casimero will consider that. No more room for any doubts.
So the venue is in Liverpool, England. I thought it will be in the US to somehow get a good live crowd at the venue.
I agree, it's a good call if he will remain with MP promotions, no offense to Probellum, it is a good boxing promotion with Richard Schaefer at the helm.
But I think Casimero will be at home if he is with MP with the rest of the Filipino boxers. Sort of a family. There are reports that Donaire has something to do with him moving to Probellum, but Donaire has been close to Richard before so it make sense for him to move without hesitation. In any case, Liverpool it is, no doubt that Casimero will perform good at hostile crowds.
I think if Casimero was happy with MP promotion, he would stay with them, but it seems like he is not happy or not satisfied at all since he is not getting big fights under the promotion. With Probellum, maybe there's a bigger chance for him to fight Inoue which really is his main goal for now.
MP can negotiate with Bob Arum and secure a deal to fight Inoue if that is Casimero wanted. But we all know how protective Arum is with his cash cow so I would say it is difficult to work it out even if he moves to Richard Schaefer company.
I'm not thinking that maybe Casimero thinks that MP has a lot of stable fighters (not sure how many though), and he thinks that he is not giving enough time by Sean Gibbons.
February 01, 2022, 05:47:56 PM
I'm not familiar with the attitudes of the fans that are from Liverpool. But by reading the previous posts here, it says something negative and Casimero should be able to show his full blow on this match and just leave Butler with a KO. Because if it doesn't happen, there could be some biased scoring. I'm not worried about the fans, there could be some ways to mitigate that if he's also concerned about that. But about the scoring and judging, yeah, everyone's being concerned on it.
I think not just from UK, I guess in every places where you trying to fight the local boys, for sure you will not be well received by the crowd. And that's what makes this fight very interesting for Casimero as he can knock out everyone, and what will be the reaction of the (hostile) crowd if they see their boy being knock out by an Asian fighter? For sure it's gonna hurt the crowd, so Casimero should be well prepared and expect the unexpected.much about being getting violent if their player or fighter do lose but of course there would be some frustration but this is something a normal reaction to have.
I dont see for this situation to be over soon but lets hope that everything would come back to normal so that these upcoming fights is something that really worth to look upon.
February 01, 2022, 03:10:37 PM
I'm not familiar with the attitudes of the fans that are from Liverpool. But by reading the previous posts here, it says something negative and Casimero should be able to show his full blow on this match and just leave Butler with a KO. Because if it doesn't happen, there could be some biased scoring. I'm not worried about the fans, there could be some ways to mitigate that if he's also concerned about that. But about the scoring and judging, yeah, everyone's being concerned on it.
I think not just from UK, I guess in every places where you trying to fight the local boys, for sure you will not be well received by the crowd. And that's what makes this fight very interesting for Casimero as he can knock out everyone, and what will be the reaction of the (hostile) crowd if they see their boy being knock out by an Asian fighter? For sure it's gonna hurt the crowd, so Casimero should be well prepared and expect the unexpected.
February 01, 2022, 09:57:57 AM
Some good news to Filipino boxing fans out there. Seems like Casimero will be heading to MP Promotions again if things will be okay with him and Sean Gibbons. We can't deny the fact that Quadro Alas is one of the most popular boxer in the Philippines right now because of his antics and boxing style, also the personality and we can say that he is one of a kind so MPP should have him back as Casimero might be their cash cow in the next few years.
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MP Promotions President Sean Gibbons is reportedly trying to patch things up with WBO world bantamweight champion John Riel Casimero before the Filipino’s next fight against Paul Butler on April 23 at a yet to be determined venue in Liverpool, England.
Good for him. MP Promotions will take care of everything. It's just that Casimero is surrounded by so-called professionals who don't how managing a boxer should be done properly. I hope Casimero will consider that. No more room for any doubts.
So the venue is in Liverpool, England. I thought it will be in the US to somehow get a good live crowd at the venue.
I agree, it's a good call if he will remain with MP promotions, no offense to Probellum, it is a good boxing promotion with Richard Schaefer at the helm.
But I think Casimero will be at home if he is with MP with the rest of the Filipino boxers. Sort of a family. There are reports that Donaire has something to do with him moving to Probellum, but Donaire has been close to Richard before so it make sense for him to move without hesitation. In any case, Liverpool it is, no doubt that Casimero will perform good at hostile crowds.
I think if Casimero was happy with MP promotion, he would stay with them, but it seems like he is not happy or not satisfied at all since he is not getting big fights under the promotion. With Probellum, maybe there's a bigger chance for him to fight Inoue which really is his main goal for now.
February 01, 2022, 08:57:29 AM
Some good news to Filipino boxing fans out there. Seems like Casimero will be heading to MP Promotions again if things will be okay with him and Sean Gibbons. We can't deny the fact that Quadro Alas is one of the most popular boxer in the Philippines right now because of his antics and boxing style, also the personality and we can say that he is one of a kind so MPP should have him back as Casimero might be their cash cow in the next few years.
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MP Promotions President Sean Gibbons is reportedly trying to patch things up with WBO world bantamweight champion John Riel Casimero before the Filipino’s next fight against Paul Butler on April 23 at a yet to be determined venue in Liverpool, England.
Good for him. MP Promotions will take care of everything. It's just that Casimero is surrounded by so-called professionals who don't how managing a boxer should be done properly. I hope Casimero will consider that. No more room for any doubts.
So the venue is in Liverpool, England. I thought it will be in the US to somehow get a good live crowd at the venue.
I agree, it's a good call if he will remain with MP promotions, no offense to Probellum, it is a good boxing promotion with Richard Schaefer at the helm.
But I think Casimero will be at home if he is with MP with the rest of the Filipino boxers. Sort of a family. There are reports that Donaire has something to do with him moving to Probellum, but Donaire has been close to Richard before so it make sense for him to move without hesitation. In any case, Liverpool it is, no doubt that Casimero will perform good at hostile crowds.
January 31, 2022, 06:59:34 PM
Some good news to Filipino boxing fans out there. Seems like Casimero will be heading to MP Promotions again if things will be okay with him and Sean Gibbons. We can't deny the fact that Quadro Alas is one of the most popular boxer in the Philippines right now because of his antics and boxing style, also the personality and we can say that he is one of a kind so MPP should have him back as Casimero might be their cash cow in the next few years.
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MP Promotions President Sean Gibbons is reportedly trying to patch things up with WBO world bantamweight champion John Riel Casimero before the Filipino’s next fight against Paul Butler on April 23 at a yet to be determined venue in Liverpool, England.
The President itself is the one who is trying to patch things with Quadro Alas? What a special person Casimero is. He should accept that right away as working under the MP promotions might give him more opportunities to fight a big fish.
Casimero's camp should not just target Inoue if the latter doesn't have any interest. Let alone the Japanese Champion to come to him. Casimero and most fans here following him should not push for that fight against Inoue like we are the one who is hungry to make that happen. Let's see some effort too on Inoue's side.
January 31, 2022, 06:50:18 PM
That's unfortunate thing to happen on him so he's team should do all they can do to make sure that Casimero is on his best condition at that time, but I doubt his past incident will happen again on him since for sure he will be cautious since his belt will be at risk if certain things will happen again. If faith will work and he cannot make it due to health reason then maybe we cannot see him fight with Inoue since for sure the said Japanese fighter will totally lose his interest to him.
I agree that the reason before might happened again while the fight is approaching.
Let's hope it won't happen again and trust his conditioning coach or his doctor or whatever they called it to maintain Casimero's good health. Still, a long way to go before the fight, and there are lots of things that might happen along the way.
The fight should now push without a problem.
January 31, 2022, 06:45:15 PM
He had already lost his interest on Casimero.
Inoue won’t be taken by Casimero antics: ‘I lost interest in this guy’
https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/12/24/21/inoue-says-lost-interest-in-casimero-fight
He should really not let these things to happen if he wanted to make his career to boom up even more but there are things like health issues
could really possibly able to block those things to happen.
Inoue won’t be taken by Casimero antics: ‘I lost interest in this guy’
https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/12/24/21/inoue-says-lost-interest-in-casimero-fight
He should really not let these things to happen if he wanted to make his career to boom up even more but there are things like health issues
could really possibly able to block those things to happen.
The win against Butler might trigger the interest of Inoue again to fight Casimero. If he stays healthy throughout, we can still see him facing Naoya Inoue. I don't think Inoue is avoiding Casimero. There's just another big opportunity for him instead of facing Casimero. Not unless Casimero will be able to win all his upcoming fights until they negotiate a match again with Inoue.
January 31, 2022, 06:30:43 PM
Yes, got to see this news and I'm quite late on it but there's now the schedule and place for the match. In all means, that this is going to happen and we're all in the hope that there won't be some unforeseen scenarios again that might delay this fight which should already be done by now.
There should be no delays unless necessary.
If it's about Casimero again, no excuses now as his title will be stripped. Let's just hope that Casimero won't experience again that medical issue he went through before as that condition can happen anytime.
Being in that condition will put a champion in jeopardy as it means the boxer is not capable now to defend it.
That's unfortunate thing to happen on him so he's team should do all they can do to make sure that Casimero is on his best condition at that time, but I doubt his past incident will happen again on him since for sure he will be cautious since his belt will be at risk if certain things will happen again. If faith will work and he cannot make it due to health reason then maybe we cannot see him fight with Inoue since for sure the said Japanese fighter will totally lose his interest to him.
Inoue won’t be taken by Casimero antics: ‘I lost interest in this guy’
https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/12/24/21/inoue-says-lost-interest-in-casimero-fight
He should really not let these things to happen if he wanted to make his career to boom up even more but there are things like health issues
could really possibly able to block those things to happen.
January 31, 2022, 06:29:22 PM
Some good news to Filipino boxing fans out there. Seems like Casimero will be heading to MP Promotions again if things will be okay with him and Sean Gibbons. We can't deny the fact that Quadro Alas is one of the most popular boxer in the Philippines right now because of his antics and boxing style, also the personality and we can say that he is one of a kind so MPP should have him back as Casimero might be their cash cow in the next few years.
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MP Promotions President Sean Gibbons is reportedly trying to patch things up with WBO world bantamweight champion John Riel Casimero before the Filipino’s next fight against Paul Butler on April 23 at a yet to be determined venue in Liverpool, England.
Good for him. MP Promotions will take care of everything. It's just that Casimero is surrounded by so-called professionals who don't how managing a boxer should be done properly. I hope Casimero will consider that. No more room for any doubts.
So the venue is in Liverpool, England. I thought it will be in the US to somehow get a good live crowd at the venue.
January 31, 2022, 06:25:02 PM
..and he cannot make it due to health reason then maybe we cannot see him fight with Inoue since for sure the said Japanese fighter will totally lose his interest to him.
Yes, that's the worst-case scenario. No reason for Inoue to fight him now if he is has a medical condition that he can't pass through. Aside from that, no title to unified now as Casimero will now be a normal challenger. Inoue will end up instead facing Butler or Donaire.
But as you said, there are surely things that are done now to make sure Casimero is in a good health condition at the time of the fight or even prior to weigh-in. Quadro Alas should already know the drill and working on it.
January 31, 2022, 06:10:24 PM
Yes, got to see this news and I'm quite late on it but there's now the schedule and place for the match. In all means, that this is going to happen and we're all in the hope that there won't be some unforeseen scenarios again that might delay this fight which should already be done by now.
There should be no delays unless necessary.
If it's about Casimero again, no excuses now as his title will be stripped. Let's just hope that Casimero won't experience again that medical issue he went through before as that condition can happen anytime.
Being in that condition will put a champion in jeopardy as it means the boxer is not capable now to defend it.
That's unfortunate thing to happen on him so he's team should do all they can do to make sure that Casimero is on his best condition at that time, but I doubt his past incident will happen again on him since for sure he will be cautious since his belt will be at risk if certain things will happen again. If faith will work and he cannot make it due to health reason then maybe we cannot see him fight with Inoue since for sure the said Japanese fighter will totally lose his interest to him.
January 31, 2022, 06:04:12 PM
Yes, got to see this news and I'm quite late on it but there's now the schedule and place for the match. In all means, that this is going to happen and we're all in the hope that there won't be some unforeseen scenarios again that might delay this fight which should already be done by now.
There should be no delays unless necessary.
If it's about Casimero again, no excuses now as his title will be stripped. Let's just hope that Casimero won't experience again that medical issue he went through before as that condition can happen anytime.
Being in that condition will put a champion in jeopardy as it means the boxer is not capable now to defend it.
January 31, 2022, 05:47:25 PM
There are talks that the Inoue vs Donaire 2 will be stage this April so i think this fight will go first before the Casimero vs Inoue if ever pushes through because the Casimero vs Butler fight is already scheduled this April 23 in Liverpool but just can't post here the link (i have to find if first).
I've been hearing that I think since last year but there's no one from the camp of both fighters that have said any information about that. It's good to leave it there as a rumor until they're the ones to announce it that the rematch would happen soon if time permits.Well, it's not a rumor anymore as WBO has officially announced the fight already and yes, it would happen in the challenger's country.
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Casimero-Butler: WBO Approves Request To Reschedule Title Fight For April 23 In Liverpool
https://www.boxingscene.com/casimero-butler-wbo-approves-request-reschedule-title-fight-april-23-liverpool--163723
yeah, i clearly remember his fight with rigo. some were making a meme that he is mayweather jr. most boxing fans want a toe-to-toe fight not a boring/running/defensive style. i believe butler can give more action inside the ring, and that is dangerous for casimero. he is fighting in opponent's turf. so even if he will be the favourite here, he better finish this early or possibly suffer loss if this will go the distance.
Every possible way of Casimero's loss is likely projected by his coaches and staff and that's why in all that they do which includes the training, they're foreseeing the counter of it if ever Butler is going to give him a hard time. January 31, 2022, 05:15:07 PM
yeah, i clearly remember his fight with rigo. some were making a meme that he is mayweather jr. most boxing fans want a toe-to-toe fight not a boring/running/defensive style. i believe butler can give more action inside the ring, and that is dangerous for casimero. he is fighting in opponent's turf. so even if he will be the favourite here, he better finish this early or possibly suffer loss if this will go the distance.
I remember reading an article that we can't expect Paul Butler to be in running mode the same with Rigo. He is a close fighter and wants a close bout. Maybe there will be times that he will run as it's just normal. Even heavy underdog, Paul Butler is serious about getting the WBO title as his effort to climb at the Rank 1 will now be paid off.
He might have no chance at all against Casimero but there's always a chance for an upset.
January 31, 2022, 05:01:25 PM
Some good news to Filipino boxing fans out there. Seems like Casimero will be heading to MP Promotions again if things will be okay with him and Sean Gibbons. We can't deny the fact that Quadro Alas is one of the most popular boxer in the Philippines right now because of his antics and boxing style, also the personality and we can say that he is one of a kind so MPP should have him back as Casimero might be their cash cow in the next few years.
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MP Promotions President Sean Gibbons is reportedly trying to patch things up with WBO world bantamweight champion John Riel Casimero before the Filipino’s next fight against Paul Butler on April 23 at a yet to be determined venue in Liverpool, England.
January 31, 2022, 03:01:49 PM
Casimero, being in the opponent's home court, he needs to make sure his actions inside the ring.
Exactly, he cannot just be complacent, if possible he should KO Butler, so a possible favoritism on the fight by the judges will not happen. Casimero is the defending champion here but he is going to be in the territory of the enemy, so he has to ensure his win and that is by KO.
If that's the case, then Casimero should be extremely careful as anything could happen in this fight especially if there's a possible favoritism and Casimero is the defending champion that's why his best option is to knock Butler out and not via unanimous decision so that there would be no error in the scorecards and there's no room to play favoritism.
Though he is the favorite to win the fight, I still don't call think that he will ensure a victory. Butler is training hard as well, just like Casimero, so the best fighter will win in this fight and I'm sure it's not gonna be boring compared to Casimero's fight against Rigo who just keep on running until then 12 rounds.
yeah, i clearly remember his fight with rigo. some were making a meme that he is mayweather jr. most boxing fans want a toe-to-toe fight not a boring/running/defensive style. i believe butler can give more action inside the ring, and that is dangerous for casimero. he is fighting in opponent's turf. so even if he will be the favourite here, he better finish this early or possibly suffer loss if this will go the distance.
January 31, 2022, 02:22:28 PM
I'm not familiar with the attitudes of the fans that are from Liverpool. But by reading the previous posts here, it says something negative and Casimero should be able to show his full blow on this match and just leave Butler with a KO. Because if it doesn't happen, there could be some biased scoring. I'm not worried about the fans, there could be some ways to mitigate that if he's also concerned about that. But about the scoring and judging, yeah, everyone's being concerned on it.
I think not just from UK, I guess in every places where you trying to fight the local boys, for sure you will not be well received by the crowd. And that's what makes this fight very interesting for Casimero as he can knock out everyone, and what will be the reaction of the (hostile) crowd if they see their boy being knock out by an Asian fighter? For sure it's gonna hurt the crowd, so Casimero should be well prepared and expect the unexpected.Most fans uses their emotion in this fight, we bettors we used our minds.
and do make analysis whether its a worthy odds or chance for you to take advantage on what you are seeing and this is where people do really make out choices according to on what they do saw.
but in most cases this would really be minding or choosing the favorites most of the time which is really very common.
January 31, 2022, 08:08:07 AM
I'm not familiar with the attitudes of the fans that are from Liverpool. But by reading the previous posts here, it says something negative and Casimero should be able to show his full blow on this match and just leave Butler with a KO. Because if it doesn't happen, there could be some biased scoring. I'm not worried about the fans, there could be some ways to mitigate that if he's also concerned about that. But about the scoring and judging, yeah, everyone's being concerned on it.
I think not just from UK, I guess in every places where you trying to fight the local boys, for sure you will not be well received by the crowd. And that's what makes this fight very interesting for Casimero as he can knock out everyone, and what will be the reaction of the (hostile) crowd if they see their boy being knock out by an Asian fighter? For sure it's gonna hurt the crowd, so Casimero should be well prepared and expect the unexpected.Most fans uses their emotion in this fight, we bettors we used our minds.
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