I'm not familiar with the attitudes of the fans that are from Liverpool. But by reading the previous posts here, it says something negative and Casimero should be able to show his full blow on this match and just leave Butler with a KO. Because if it doesn't happen, there could be some biased scoring. I'm not worried about the fans, there could be some ways to mitigate that if he's also concerned about that. But about the scoring and judging, yeah, everyone's being concerned on it.
I think not just from UK, I guess in every places where you trying to fight the local boys, for sure you will not be well received by the crowd. And that's what makes this fight very interesting for Casimero as he can knock out everyone, and what will be the reaction of the (hostile) crowd if they see their boy being knock out by an Asian fighter? For sure it's gonna hurt the crowd, so Casimero should be well prepared and expect the unexpected.
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January 31, 2022, 07:54:01 AM
January 31, 2022, 07:48:29 AM
I'm not familiar with the attitudes of the fans that are from Liverpool. But by reading the previous posts here, it says something negative and Casimero should be able to show his full blow on this match and just leave Butler with a KO. Because if it doesn't happen, there could be some biased scoring. I'm not worried about the fans, there could be some ways to mitigate that if he's also concerned about that. But about the scoring and judging, yeah, everyone's being concerned on it.
I think not just from UK, I guess in every places where you trying to fight the local boys, for sure you will not be well received by the crowd. And that's what makes this fight very interesting for Casimero as he can knock out everyone, and what will be the reaction of the (hostile) crowd if they see their boy being knock out by an Asian fighter? For sure it's gonna hurt the crowd, so Casimero should be well prepared and expect the unexpected.
January 31, 2022, 07:20:24 AM
I'm not familiar with the attitudes of the fans that are from Liverpool. But by reading the previous posts here, it says something negative and Casimero should be able to show his full blow on this match and just leave Butler with a KO. Because if it doesn't happen, there could be some biased scoring. I'm not worried about the fans, there could be some ways to mitigate that if he's also concerned about that. But about the scoring and judging, yeah, everyone's being concerned on it.
I think not just from UK, I guess in every places where you trying to fight the local boys, for sure you will not be well received by the crowd. And that's what makes this fight very interesting for Casimero as he can knock out everyone, and what will be the reaction of the (hostile) crowd if they see their boy being knock out by an Asian fighter? For sure it's gonna hurt the crowd, so Casimero should be well prepared and expect the unexpected.
January 31, 2022, 06:04:54 AM
I'm not familiar with the attitudes of the fans that are from Liverpool. But by reading the previous posts here, it says something negative and Casimero should be able to show his full blow on this match and just leave Butler with a KO. Because if it doesn't happen, there could be some biased scoring. I'm not worried about the fans, there could be some ways to mitigate that if he's also concerned about that. But about the scoring and judging, yeah, everyone's being concerned on it.
I think not just from UK, I guess in every places where you trying to fight the local boys, for sure you will not be well received by the crowd. And that's what makes this fight very interesting for Casimero as he can knock out everyone, and what will be the reaction of the (hostile) crowd if they see their boy being knock out by an Asian fighter? For sure it's gonna hurt the crowd, so Casimero should be well prepared and expect the unexpected. 
January 31, 2022, 05:36:58 AM
Casimero, being in the opponent's home court, he needs to make sure his actions inside the ring.
Exactly, he cannot just be complacent, if possible he should KO Butler, so a possible favoritism on the fight by the judges will not happen. Casimero is the defending champion here but he is going to be in the territory of the enemy, so he has to ensure his win and that is by KO.
If that's the case, then Casimero should be extremely careful as anything could happen in this fight especially if there's a possible favoritism and Casimero is the defending champion that's why his best option is to knock Butler out and not via unanimous decision so that there would be no error in the scorecards and there's no room to play favoritism.
I hope that this match would be fair for both of them. Casimero has been too dedicated in his fights so I'm sure that despite his opponent's edges, he could still win this match. Lots of people believe in him and I guess, he will do everything not to fail or disappoint his supporters.
It will be fair, no doubt about it, both are training hard so it's just a matter on who punches hard and have the tools to beat the other guy. And most likely it will be Casimero although he will be fighting in a hostile crowd in UK. Wherein we all know that they are very rude crowd to the point that they are somewhat on the boundary of being 'racist'. Nevertheless, Casimero has been in this situation before and he will still be the favorite here to win even if the fight is going to be held on Butler's home court.
As you said, it's a hostile ground and I think we already know how far these people can go just to deviate the scores if they're that dedicated, so Casimero and his team should be ready and watch out if indeed this speculation will happen and a lethal punch that could knock Butler out is the best option they got to avoid favoritism among the judges. Nonetheless, I have no doubt that Casimero have what it takes to defeat Butler and that he could overcome this fight.
January 31, 2022, 05:27:51 AM
I'm not familiar with the attitudes of the fans that are from Liverpool. But by reading the previous posts here, it says something negative and Casimero should be able to show his full blow on this match and just leave Butler with a KO. Because if it doesn't happen, there could be some biased scoring. I'm not worried about the fans, there could be some ways to mitigate that if he's also concerned about that. But about the scoring and judging, yeah, everyone's being concerned on it.
January 31, 2022, 04:34:44 AM
Casimero, being in the opponent's home court, he needs to make sure his actions inside the ring.
Exactly, he cannot just be complacent, if possible he should KO Butler, so a possible favoritism on the fight by the judges will not happen. Casimero is the defending champion here but he is going to be in the territory of the enemy, so he has to ensure his win and that is by KO.
If that's the case, then Casimero should be extremely careful as anything could happen in this fight especially if there's a possible favoritism and Casimero is the defending champion that's why his best option is to knock Butler out and not via unanimous decision so that there would be no error in the scorecards and there's no room to play favoritism.
I hope that this match would be fair for both of them. Casimero has been too dedicated in his fights so I'm sure that despite his opponent's edges, he could still win this match. Lots of people believe in him and I guess, he will do everything not to fail or disappoint his supporters.
It will be fair, no doubt about it, both are training hard so it's just a matter on who punches hard and have the tools to beat the other guy. And most likely it will be Casimero although he will be fighting in a hostile crowd in UK. Wherein we all know that they are very rude crowd to the point that they are somewhat on the boundary of being 'racist'. Nevertheless, Casimero has been in this situation before and he will still be the favorite here to win even if the fight is going to be held on Butler's home court.
January 31, 2022, 01:05:39 AM
Casimero, being in the opponent's home court, he needs to make sure his actions inside the ring.
Exactly, he cannot just be complacent, if possible he should KO Butler, so a possible favoritism on the fight by the judges will not happen. Casimero is the defending champion here but he is going to be in the territory of the enemy, so he has to ensure his win and that is by KO.
If that's the case, then Casimero should be extremely careful as anything could happen in this fight especially if there's a possible favoritism and Casimero is the defending champion that's why his best option is to knock Butler out and not via unanimous decision so that there would be no error in the scorecards and there's no room to play favoritism.
Though he is the favorite to win the fight, I still don't call think that he will ensure a victory. Butler is training hard as well, just like Casimero, so the best fighter will win in this fight and I'm sure it's not gonna be boring compared to Casimero's fight against Rigo who just keep on running until then 12 rounds.
January 31, 2022, 01:00:54 AM
Casimero, being in the opponent's home court, he needs to make sure his actions inside the ring.
Exactly, he cannot just be complacent, if possible he should KO Butler, so a possible favoritism on the fight by the judges will not happen. Casimero is the defending champion here but he is going to be in the territory of the enemy, so he has to ensure his win and that is by KO.
If that's the case, then Casimero should be extremely careful as anything could happen in this fight especially if there's a possible favoritism and Casimero is the defending champion that's why his best option is to knock Butler out and not via unanimous decision so that there would be no error in the scorecards and there's no room to play favoritism.
January 30, 2022, 03:46:57 PM
Is there any site to see the odds already? or still waiting since April might not still be the final date?
I don't see a site having the odds yet, maybe it's still too early to ask for the betting odds, they are not as popular as the biggest names in the sports of boxing, so we have to be more patient to wait until the odds are out.
From what I read, Casimero here is the heavy favorites, more like a .
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Casimero is a huge betting favorite for this weekend’s bout against Butler with odds ranging from -2000 to -3400. These are the largest his odds have been in at least six years.
The odds are not final yet, we can only say it's official once it's already listed in the sportsbook, for now, consider that odds are just a prediction and since the fight is in Butler's country, then most likely he would not be like that but I still think that Casimero would be the favorite.
January 30, 2022, 03:37:34 PM
Is there any site to see the odds already? or still waiting since April might not still be the final date?
I don't see a site having the odds yet, maybe it's still too early to ask for the betting odds, they are not as popular as the biggest names in the sports of boxing, so we have to be more patient to wait until the odds are out.
From what I read, Casimero here is the heavy favorites, more like a .
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Casimero is a huge betting favorite for this weekend’s bout against Butler with odds ranging from -2000 to -3400. These are the largest his odds have been in at least six years.
January 30, 2022, 02:37:11 PM
Casimero, being in the opponent's home court, he needs to make sure his actions inside the ring.
Exactly, he cannot just be complacent, if possible he should KO Butler, so a possible favoritism on the fight by the judges will not happen. Casimero is the defending champion here but he is going to be in the territory of the enemy, so he has to ensure his win and that is by KO.
If that's the case, then Casimero should be extremely careful as anything could happen in this fight especially if there's a possible favoritism and Casimero is the defending champion that's why his best option is to knock Butler out and not via unanimous decision so that there would be no error in the scorecards and there's no room to play favoritism.
Casimero has been in this situation many times in the past and he handled it well. He was even more dangerous to opponents when fighting on the road, i mean on the opponents homecourt so i think this Butler fight would be the same and he could pulled off this one and defend the belt.
This is his last chance and if Casimero won't show up in the weighing scale then WBO would strip him off the belt, no ifs and buts so he should be more focus now on his conditioning and manage his weight well from now on.
January 30, 2022, 01:33:58 PM
Casimero, being in the opponent's home court, he needs to make sure his actions inside the ring.
Exactly, he cannot just be complacent, if possible he should KO Butler, so a possible favoritism on the fight by the judges will not happen. Casimero is the defending champion here but he is going to be in the territory of the enemy, so he has to ensure his win and that is by KO.
If that's the case, then Casimero should be extremely careful as anything could happen in this fight especially if there's a possible favoritism and Casimero is the defending champion that's why his best option is to knock Butler out and not via unanimous decision so that there would be no error in the scorecards and there's no room to play favoritism.
I hope that this match would be fair for both of them. Casimero has been too dedicated in his fights so I'm sure that despite his opponent's edges, he could still win this match. Lots of people believe in him and I guess, he will do everything not to fail or disappoint his supporters.
We'll let's hope that there would be no favoritism in this fight but Casimero and his team should be careful and ready if those instances or situations will arise, that's why a KO would be a big help to secure the fight in his favor. Yes, we know that Casimero is very dedicated and eager to get in this fight because this is his only hope to stand tall in the industry.
January 30, 2022, 12:17:23 PM
Exactly, he cannot just be complacent, if possible he should KO Butler, so a possible favoritism on the fight by the judges will not happen. Casimero is the defending champion here but he is going to be in the territory of the enemy, so he has to ensure his win and that is by KO.
If that's the case, then Casimero should be extremely careful as anything could happen in this fight especially if there's a possible favoritism and Casimero is the defending champion that's why his best option is to knock Butler out and not via unanimous decision so that there would be no error in the scorecards and there's no room to play favoritism.
and the fact that even though Casimero is currently in the opponent's territory but I still see that he is still very well seeded here. this proves that it doesn't really matter whether he is currently fighting in the opponent's territory or not because indeed they see it from an objectivity perspective and it is very natural that he is indeed the favorite even though he acts as a guest in the butler's territory.
January 30, 2022, 11:21:29 AM
Casimero, being in the opponent's home court, he needs to make sure his actions inside the ring.
Exactly, he cannot just be complacent, if possible he should KO Butler, so a possible favoritism on the fight by the judges will not happen. Casimero is the defending champion here but he is going to be in the territory of the enemy, so he has to ensure his win and that is by KO.
If that's the case, then Casimero should be extremely careful as anything could happen in this fight especially if there's a possible favoritism and Casimero is the defending champion that's why his best option is to knock Butler out and not via unanimous decision so that there would be no error in the scorecards and there's no room to play favoritism.
I hope that this match would be fair for both of them. Casimero has been too dedicated in his fights so I'm sure that despite his opponent's edges, he could still win this match. Lots of people believe in him and I guess, he will do everything not to fail or disappoint his supporters.
January 30, 2022, 11:17:24 AM
Casimero, being in the opponent's home court, he needs to make sure his actions inside the ring.
Exactly, he cannot just be complacent, if possible he should KO Butler, so a possible favoritism on the fight by the judges will not happen. Casimero is the defending champion here but he is going to be in the territory of the enemy, so he has to ensure his win and that is by KO.
If that's the case, then Casimero should be extremely careful as anything could happen in this fight especially if there's a possible favoritism and Casimero is the defending champion that's why his best option is to knock Butler out and not via unanimous decision so that there would be no error in the scorecards and there's no room to play favoritism.
January 30, 2022, 10:57:02 AM
Now we can talk about betting again, hoping for the fully recovery of Casimero since I’m rooting for him and I still want him to see fighting Inoue after this match.
For betting, we will not see a good odds for Casimero as he is a champion.
I hope betting to him by Decision or Knockout will have a good odds so while we are cheering for Casimero, we will also have a chance to win a good amount in return.
Casimero @ 1.5 vs Butler @3 will be my odds speculation on that fight.
I speculate that it might be lower than that, so yeah, I agree with most posters that it's not worth to bet on the ML line for Casimero.
But for sure there will be other betting options for us and that's where the money is. And if you are really lucky betting on the exact round to which Casimero might win, it will be huge win.
Aiming for much better odds, this is the only option since the ML is too far and just a waste if you are not going to use big volume
of your funds, Though more on game of luck if you will predict the correct rounds or if Casimero will KO or whatever other options
The bookies have to offer. But for sure, the ML is not enticing to bring bettors to grab. They will surely look for other alternatives.
January 30, 2022, 10:40:19 AM
I doubt he'll ruin his name and career by not showing up for this fight. I know there are rumors regarding him faking the illness but if the WBO confirmed the evidence he showed, I believe that he was not faking his Illness.
It's not fake, it's real, otherwise, he will go to jail or will lose his license. Casimero has proven not feeling well that time so he was not stripped with this belt, for the 2nd time, he is given another chance to defend his title and I'm sure he will do just find and beat his challenger.
Casimero is on his way making his name to be more famous in the industry and I don't actually believe that he will do that because surely Casimero himself know what would be the outcome if he suddenly decides not to show up and it's just a rumor that he's just faking his illness that's why he was hospitalized but there's some videos in the youtube that can vouch his actions.
If I'm not mistaken, Casimero has history of having problems making the weight.
But I think this time there will be no slippage, because he knows that once he failed to show up or missed the weight in scale he will be strip of the belt on the fight night itself. So his team should really be careful of what he eat. Although there are still months before the actual fight. They should at least manage his weight by now, as early as they can so that there will be no cramping and huge drop in weight days before the fight because it will put a lot of strain in the body.
He better be in good shape and show up in the scheduled weigh-in because either way it's a bad news for him as it would really take a toll on his career. But I think this fight will happen April 23, right? So, he still have some few months left but there's no need to rush and should focus more in training if he truly wants to defeat Butler. He should take this very seriously tho.
January 30, 2022, 09:40:52 AM
Now we can talk about betting again, hoping for the fully recovery of Casimero since I’m rooting for him and I still want him to see fighting Inoue after this match.
For betting, we will not see a good odds for Casimero as he is a champion.
I hope betting to him by Decision or Knockout will have a good odds so while we are cheering for Casimero, we will also have a chance to win a good amount in return.
Casimero @ 1.5 vs Butler @3 will be my odds speculation on that fight.
I speculate that it might be lower than that, so yeah, I agree with most posters that it's not worth to bet on the ML line for Casimero.
But for sure there will be other betting options for us and that's where the money is. And if you are really lucky betting on the exact round to which Casimero might win, it will be huge win.
January 30, 2022, 08:56:26 AM
Is there any site to see the odds already? or still waiting since April might not still be the final date?
I don't see a site having the odds yet, maybe it's still too early to ask for the betting odds, they are not as popular as the biggest names in the sports of boxing, so we have to be more patient to wait until the odds are out.
From what I read, Casimero here is the heavy favorites, more like a .
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Casimero is a huge betting favorite for this weekend’s bout against Butler with odds ranging from -2000 to -3400. These are the largest his odds have been in at least six years.
-3400 converted to decimal odds is only 1.03, that doesn't look attractive to me, risking $100 would only gain 3$ if you win, it's not worth taking the risk to be honest. This would be the home court of the challenger but Casimero is so comfortable anywhere he would fight, that's why bookies does not consider that when making the odds of this fight.
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