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^^ I think it boils down as to what Bob Arum will advise Inoue here.

If Uncle Bob says "fight Donaire first, the chances are very high since you already beat him. Let Casimero fight other boxers, and be damage before you fight him."

So this could be the likely scenario even if Casimero wins his bout against Butler.

Possibly.
It's always Arum that gets the job done and whatever he says, that's the final and these boxers have nothing to say but just to obey what does the boss says.

Promoters would be always have the final say when arranging things and its true that boxers would just simply follow or obey on what are those words do come out from his mouth.Arum would definitely find and set the fights accordingly and as long it could really give out revenue the most.Whether he do following on the hype or demand directly or would just make things to happen a little bit further or delayed.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on January 26, 2022, 03:47:05 PM

^^ I think it boils down as to what Bob Arum will advise Inoue here.

If Uncle Bob says "fight Donaire first, the chances are very high since you already beat him. Let Casimero fight other boxers, and be damage before you fight him."

So this could be the likely scenario even if Casimero wins his bout against Butler.

Possibly.
It's always Arum that gets the job done and whatever he says, that's the final and these boxers have nothing to say but just to obey what does the boss says.

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^^ I think it boils down as to what Bob Arum will advise Inoue here.

If Uncle Bob says "fight Donaire first, the chances are very high since you already beat him. Let Casimero fight other boxers, and be damage before you fight him."

So this could be the likely scenario even if Casimero wins his bout against Butler.

Arum always cares about money. He will not dare to deal with his assets if the chance of losing valuables is high.

Common, Inoue is the one who's really hot right now and if Arum will tell him to face Donaire, Arum will do his best to promote and attract

Viewers and gamblers to watch and bet on this fight. He will entertain fight that he knows he has the upper hand. You pointed it out

Inoue already beats Donaire and with that age gap, the chance of beating him again is really high.. Wink

Most likely they will fight Donaire first as that would be an easier journey for them, when Inoue beats Donaire, he can also be a unified champion, no difference with fighting and beating Casimero, so maybe the last step would be being a undisputed and that's a fight with Casimero.

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Quote from: agustina2 on January 25, 2022, 07:59:10 PM

^^ I think it boils down as to what Bob Arum will advise Inoue here.

If Uncle Bob says "fight Donaire first, the chances are very high since you already beat him. Let Casimero fight other boxers, and be damage before you fight him."

So this could be the likely scenario even if Casimero wins his bout against Butler.

Arum always cares about money. He will not dare to deal with his assets if the chance of losing valuables is high.

Common, Inoue is the one who's really hot right now and if Arum will tell him to face Donaire, Arum will do his best to promote and attract

Viewers and gamblers to watch and bet on this fight. He will entertain fight that he knows he has the upper hand. You pointed it out

Inoue already beats Donaire and with that age gap, the chance of beating him again is really high.. Wink

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^^ I think it boils down as to what Bob Arum will advise Inoue here.

If Uncle Bob says "fight Donaire first, the chances are very high since you already beat him. Let Casimero fight other boxers, and be damage before you fight him."

So this could be the likely scenario even if Casimero wins his bout against Butler.

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Inoue already losing interest to fight Casimero anymore as he plans to fight Donaire for second time again and climb up for another weight division, so I guess he don't have any plans to fight him anymore. Maybe he don't see any benefits from it since he's not interested to fight him anymore. But fans keep insisting to make this fight happen so I hope that negotiation will up and this will happen since this will be huge fight to happen if both camp agree and seal a contract to their fight.

Even Inoue loses interest in Casimero, at least the monster still considers him to fight next. Maybe around June. The monster still prefers to fight in Japan that's why it takes too long for him to get in the ring knowing Japan has current travel restrictions in effect.

Naoya Inoue planning June return due to ongoing travel restrictions
Inoue is reportedly targeting Nonito Donaire and John Riel Casimero, as expected

He's main target is Donaire so I guess this fight will have more better chances than fighting casimero but as always this is business so I guess if many fans will discuss more about this then for sure they will made this fight to happen for sure they will not lose the interest to gain a lot of money for this fight. But for now the only thing we can do is to wait for updates since its really annoying to see this drama keep building up while their management didn't give any clear sight if they really want the Casinero vs Inoue match up to happen.

I also think of the same way. Inoue might choose Donaire as for him, he's the most worthy to fight with respect compare to Casimero. Aside from that, Donaire now holds another title to unified that's why it's more reasonable to fight him first compare to Casimero.

After Donaire vs Inoue, there's no choice now but to fight Casimero to unify the belt that it holds. Not unless Casimero will lose to Butler, no reason for Inoue to fight Casimero now.

But Inoue already beat Donaire, he needs more challenge plus Casimero has the belt as well.

So for me, it's better if he fight Casimero next (pending Casimero's fight and if he won against Butler). Because that will surely be fire for boxing fans. And then the winner fight Donaire next, at least in this case we will have the best of this division.

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Inoue already losing interest to fight Casimero anymore as he plans to fight Donaire for second time again and climb up for another weight division, so I guess he don't have any plans to fight him anymore. Maybe he don't see any benefits from it since he's not interested to fight him anymore. But fans keep insisting to make this fight happen so I hope that negotiation will up and this will happen since this will be huge fight to happen if both camp agree and seal a contract to their fight.

Even Inoue loses interest in Casimero, at least the monster still considers him to fight next. Maybe around June. The monster still prefers to fight in Japan that's why it takes too long for him to get in the ring knowing Japan has current travel restrictions in effect.

Naoya Inoue planning June return due to ongoing travel restrictions
Inoue is reportedly targeting Nonito Donaire and John Riel Casimero, as expected

He's main target is Donaire so I guess this fight will have more better chances than fighting casimero but as always this is business so I guess if many fans will discuss more about this then for sure they will made this fight to happen for sure they will not lose the interest to gain a lot of money for this fight. But for now the only thing we can do is to wait for updates since its really annoying to see this drama keep building up while their management didn't give any clear sight if they really want the Casinero vs Inoue match up to happen.

I also think of the same way. Inoue might choose Donaire as for him, he's the most worthy to fight with respect compare to Casimero. Aside from that, Donaire now holds another title to unified that's why it's more reasonable to fight him first compare to Casimero.

After Donaire vs Inoue, there's no choice now but to fight Casimero to unify the belt that it holds. Not unless Casimero will lose to Butler, no reason for Inoue to fight Casimero now.

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That's what I'm saying for the delay of this match. He has to go through with Butler first before going with anyone that he wants to box. But we don't know until when they're going to wait for it and when all things are set.

I don't know what's the timeline for WBO about Casimero but this mandatory fight should happen by March or April. If Inoue will return in June, as shared above, the possibility of Casimero vs Inoue will be at the last quarter of this year.

Don't rush people, there are lots of big fights this 2022.

We also have other Filipinos on lineup this year.

Inoue has target so I think he will follow that and maybe Casimero will be his last option but hopefully we can see this fight to happen since he cannot prove he's dominance on his past weight class if he skip 1 fighter and go up for sure many fans will taunt or mock at him if he do that. So hopefully after the schedule match of Casimero their fight between him will happen since it will prove that he's really strong and already dominated all he's opponents.

Cant still be sure if it would really poke up Inoues interest on fighting him if he would able to win on his upcoming fights but we do know that everything would be still in control with the organization whether it would

turn out to be mandatory or not and this would really be depending on them but of course a fighter could also choose up on who would really be fighting but lets see if this one would really be happening.

We are all longing for this fight to happen which lots had been anticipating for it.

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Quote from: goinmerry on January 24, 2022, 07:33:58 PM

That's what I'm saying for the delay of this match. He has to go through with Butler first before going with anyone that he wants to box. But we don't know until when they're going to wait for it and when all things are set.

I don't know what's the timeline for WBO about Casimero but this mandatory fight should happen by March or April. If Inoue will return in June, as shared above, the possibility of Casimero vs Inoue will be at the last quarter of this year.

Don't rush people, there are lots of big fights this 2022.

We also have other Filipinos on lineup this year.

Inoue has target so I think he will follow that and maybe Casimero will be his last option but hopefully we can see this fight to happen since he cannot prove he's dominance on his past weight class if he skip 1 fighter and go up for sure many fans will taunt or mock at him if he do that. So hopefully after the schedule match of Casimero their fight between him will happen since it will prove that he's really strong and already dominated all he's opponents.

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Quote from: goinmerry on January 24, 2022, 07:33:58 PM

That's what I'm saying for the delay of this match. He has to go through with Butler first before going with anyone that he wants to box. But we don't know until when they're going to wait for it and when all things are set.

I don't know what's the timeline for WBO about Casimero but this mandatory fight should happen by March or April. If Inoue will return in June, as shared above, the possibility of Casimero vs Inoue will be at the last quarter of this year.

Don't rush people, there are lots of big fights this 2022.

We also have other Filipinos on lineup this year.

That's good to know for Inoue, the schedule for Casimero - Butler could happen within the next few months. I think the preparation of Casimero is on timing and it's just the issue that he has dealing with his health didn't go well.
Last year he fought and then, the rumor about going with Inoue proceed as Casimero told with a date. The schedule of his training and preparation for that "possible" fight was too short IMO and with all of the things that's happening right now to him. He should be well prepared on it when there's already a date for his match against Butler.

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That's what I'm saying for the delay of this match. He has to go through with Butler first before going with anyone that he wants to box. But we don't know until when they're going to wait for it and when all things are set.

I don't know what's the timeline for WBO about Casimero but this mandatory fight should happen by March or April. If Inoue will return in June, as shared above, the possibility of Casimero vs Inoue will be at the last quarter of this year.

Don't rush people, there are lots of big fights this 2022.

We also have other Filipinos on lineup this year.

Yeah, I think a March-April date for Casimero and Butler fight is logical. I think Casimero is already ok right now and Butler has been training hard for the initial date of the fight.

I think we are just excited to see Casimero on the ring again, after all Magsayo put up a good show and upset Russell. So we are waiting for another Filipino to hug the limelight again and that is Casimero. And after he wins against Butler then a super-fight can happen later this year against Inoue.

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That's what I'm saying for the delay of this match. He has to go through with Butler first before going with anyone that he wants to box. But we don't know until when they're going to wait for it and when all things are set.

I don't know what's the timeline for WBO about Casimero but this mandatory fight should happen by March or April. If Inoue will return in June, as shared above, the possibility of Casimero vs Inoue will be at the last quarter of this year.

Don't rush people, there are lots of big fights this 2022.

We also have other Filipinos on lineup this year.

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Quote from: tabas on January 24, 2022, 05:16:43 PM

WBO actually stepped in for Casimero and this match was just delayed. They really are about to fight and Butler is just waiting for it. That is the reason why we're wanting this match to be finished so that Casimero can move forward and go against with the possible match against Inoue.
It is what we all like to see and we don't know if WBO will step on this or they'll just allow Casimero to go for it. We have no idea if some postponement might happen again and Casimero would be led to another challenger.

The decisions are still not out so we are waiting for the next match of Casimero either to fight Butler or to have another boxer in waiting, WBO should make an announcement now so viewers wont expect that much.

AFAIK, it's with Butler and this has to be finished before going with another challenger or any fighter that he wants to fight. This is an order from WBO.
While he's still in recovery, there's no given date for their fight to proceed after it's been postponed.

Quote from: harizen on January 24, 2022, 07:04:03 PM

Beside, Casimero can’t fight Inoue not until he finish this the order of WBO, maybe Casimero is taking his best time to recover for now.

That's what I'm saying for the delay of this match. He has to go through with Butler first before going with anyone that he wants to box. But we don't know until when they're going to wait for it and when all things are set.

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Quote from: ultrloa on January 24, 2022, 06:40:13 PM

Inoue already losing interest to fight Casimero anymore as he plans to fight Donaire for second time again and climb up for another weight division, so I guess he don't have any plans to fight him anymore. Maybe he don't see any benefits from it since he's not interested to fight him anymore. But fans keep insisting to make this fight happen so I hope that negotiation will up and this will happen since this will be huge fight to happen if both camp agree and seal a contract to their fight.

Even Inoue loses interest in Casimero, at least the monster still considers him to fight next. Maybe around June. The monster still prefers to fight in Japan that's why it takes too long for him to get in the ring knowing Japan has current travel restrictions in effect.

Naoya Inoue planning June return due to ongoing travel restrictions
Inoue is reportedly targeting Nonito Donaire and John Riel Casimero, as expected

He's main target is Donaire so I guess this fight will have more better chances than fighting casimero but as always this is business so I guess if many fans will discuss more about this then for sure they will made this fight to happen for sure they will not lose the interest to gain a lot of money for this fight. But for now the only thing we can do is to wait for updates since its really annoying to see this drama keep building up while their management didn't give any clear sight if they really want the Casinero vs Inoue match up to happen.

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Quote from: ultrloa on January 24, 2022, 06:40:13 PM

The decisions are still not out so we are waiting for the next match of Casimero either to fight Butler or to have another boxer in waiting, WBO should make an announcement now so viewers wont expect that much.

As far as WBO mandatory fight is concerned assigning to Casimero, there's no other opponent left yet to challenge Quadro Alas rather than Paul Butler. Even there's no announcement yet, I think that fight will be pushed as there's no other way.

Inoue already losing interest to fight Casimero anymore as he plans to fight Donaire for second time again and climb up for another weight division, so I guess he don't have any plans to fight him anymore. Maybe he don't see any benefits from it since he's not interested to fight him anymore. But fans keep insisting to make this fight happen so I hope that negotiation will up and this will happen since this will be huge fight to happen if both camp agree and seal a contract to their fight.

Even Inoue loses interest in Casimero, at least the monster still considers him to fight next. Maybe around June. The monster still prefers to fight in Japan that's why it takes too long for him to get in the ring knowing Japan has current travel restrictions in effect.

Naoya Inoue planning June return due to ongoing travel restrictions
Inoue is reportedly targeting Nonito Donaire and John Riel Casimero, as expected

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So this is going to be a match in heaven sort of, two very powerful boxers who has something to prove to the world. Yeah, Inoue will be getting the lion share of the split and probably 60/40 in my opinion is probably the right split of the purse.

I agree with that. I don't see a 50/50 here or the split will be favored to Casimero.

Even Casimero is also a champion, he's like a challenger to Inoue when they fight. Inoue will be the Favorite and Casimero will be the underdog.

Again, another chance for us that support Casimero. We always like good and high odds for the one we support.

This might be one reason though if the fight will not happen. Usually these champion wanted to have the big share in the purse. And that's why there are fights that are not made because of this. I remember the Hatton vs Pacquiao fight, it was almost not going to happen until Arum put some money just to satisfy both party (that is according to him, but we will never know the truth).

And again in this fight, Arum is going to be involved as he handles Inoue. And hopefully they are going to push with this fight and give what is due for Casimero.

Inoue already losing interest to fight Casimero anymore as he plans to fight Donaire for second time again and climb up for another weight division, so I guess he don't have any plans to fight him anymore. Maybe he don't see any benefits from it since he's not interested to fight him anymore. But fans keep insisting to make this fight happen so I hope that negotiation will up and this will happen since this will be huge fight to happen if both camp agree and seal a contract to their fight.

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