Of course he has to beat Butler first. I wonder what would have happened with the fight against Inoue if Casimero lost to Butler. Do you think there would be a fight with Inoue, would he have to have some elimination fights first?
At least to me Inoue seems to be determined to prove that he is above all the fighters on his division, so even if Casimero lost to Butler we could see them fighting above the ring, I have my doubts it would be soon as Inoue would prefer to fight Butler in that scenario to get an unification fight, but after that was done I think both fighters will look for a way to get above the ring together so they can give the fans the fight we have been waiting for some time.
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November 15, 2021, 05:00:17 PM
November 15, 2021, 04:57:58 PM
Beat Butler first then maybe they can start the talk with Inoue if he wants to risk his belt for a unification fight. We are all waiting for that big fight to happen because not only it will bring entertainment, it's also a chance for Casimero to prove that he is the best in his division.
There's already the talk with Inoue but it was postponed when this match of Butler came in and was pursued by WBO. I agree that Casimero has to beat Butler first.So after this match, he can move on with anyone whom he wants to fight but there's the most high chance that it's going to be with Inoue since it has already been talked about by Casimero then the unexpected has happened that he has to fight first Butler.
November 15, 2021, 04:43:43 PM
Of course he has to beat Butler first. I wonder what would have happened with the fight against Inoue if Casimero lost to Butler. Do you think there would be a fight with Inoue, would he have to have some elimination fights first?
At least to me Inoue seems to be determined to prove that he is above all the fighters on his division, so even if Casimero lost to Butler we could see them fighting above the ring, I have my doubts it would be soon as Inoue would prefer to fight Butler in that scenario to get an unification fight, but after that was done I think both fighters will look for a way to get above the ring together so they can give the fans the fight we have been waiting for some time.In this fight, Casimero will likely win as he has all the advantages, so Inoue has to make sure he will prepare for the fight next year so we will see a big fight, not against Donaire but it should be against Casimero who he never fought before.
November 15, 2021, 04:27:57 PM
Of course he has to beat Butler first. I wonder what would have happened with the fight against Inoue if Casimero lost to Butler. Do you think there would be a fight with Inoue, would he have to have some elimination fights first?
At least to me Inoue seems to be determined to prove that he is above all the fighters on his division, so even if Casimero lost to Butler we could see them fighting above the ring, I have my doubts it would be soon as Inoue would prefer to fight Butler in that scenario to get an unification fight, but after that was done I think both fighters will look for a way to get above the ring together so they can give the fans the fight we have been waiting for some time. 
November 15, 2021, 02:56:10 PM
Beat Butler first then maybe they can start the talk with Inoue if he wants to risk his belt for a unification fight. We are all waiting for that big fight to happen because not only it will bring entertainment, it's also a chance for Casimero to prove that he is the best in his division.
There's already the talk with Inoue but it was postponed when this match of Butler came in and was pursued by WBO. I agree that Casimero has to beat Butler first.So after this match, he can move on with anyone whom he wants to fight but there's the most high chance that it's going to be with Inoue since it has already been talked about by Casimero then the unexpected has happened that he has to fight first Butler.
Actually, before the postpone, Casimero and Inoue already have a scheduled fight last year but got canceled. This year, it was the 2nd negotiation already before WBO mandated a fight between Casimero and Butler.
Butler knows that Casimero is the one hyped on the match. He will do everything too to beat Quadro Alas to have some big fights too in the future.
I believed that the Casimero vs Inoue fight news before was just all hype, yes they have a verbal argument in the public, but that's it. We didn't see any from both sides really trying to make the fight. Sean Gibbons of MP (former handler of Casimero), was also all talk, while Bob Arum keeps silent.
So it was just an obvious ploy to make some noise specially for Casimero.
And now he has to go to his mandatory first before getting Inoue.
November 15, 2021, 02:50:20 PM
Beat Butler first then maybe they can start the talk with Inoue if he wants to risk his belt for a unification fight. We are all waiting for that big fight to happen because not only it will bring entertainment, it's also a chance for Casimero to prove that he is the best in his division.
There's already the talk with Inoue but it was postponed when this match of Butler came in and was pursued by WBO. I agree that Casimero has to beat Butler first.So after this match, he can move on with anyone whom he wants to fight but there's the most high chance that it's going to be with Inoue since it has already been talked about by Casimero then the unexpected has happened that he has to fight first Butler.
Actually, before the postpone, Casimero and Inoue already have a scheduled fight last year but got canceled. This year, it was the 2nd negotiation already before WBO mandated a fight between Casimero and Butler.
Butler knows that Casimero is the one hyped on the match. He will do everything too to beat Quadro Alas to have some big fights too in the future.
I believed that the Casimero vs Inoue fight news before was just all hype, yes they have a verbal argument in the public, but that's it. We didn't see any from both sides really trying to make the fight. Sean Gibbons of MP (former handler of Casimero), was also all talk, while Bob Arum keeps silent.
So it was just an obvious ploy to make some noise specially for Casimero.
And now he has to go to his mandatory first before getting Inoue.
So what happened to the statement of Inoue?
Naoya Inoue responds to Casimero’s taunts: ‘Please organize a match’
If Inoue cannot make this happen then it's really true that Bob Arum just wants to play safe. Inoue is still his cash cow and as long as Inoue will not fight a high caliber fighter, he will be able to maintain his undefeated record.
to happen but who knows? We dont know on whats up to their minds when it comes on setting out fights depending on situation or being organized which it isnt surprising.
I could say that Casimero is something that Inoue could really fear off but this wont be settled until an official fight happens.
November 15, 2021, 10:01:23 AM
So what happened to the statement of Inoue?
Naoya Inoue responds to Casimero’s taunts: ‘Please organize a match’
If Inoue cannot make this happen then it's really true that Bob Arum just wants to play safe. Inoue is still his cash cow and as long as Inoue will not fight a high caliber fighter, he will be able to maintain his undefeated record.
Hypes for now, but it can't be avoided if Casimero will keep on winning, time will come and these two champs will meet inside the ring.
Promoters love seeing the interest of the fans between these two fighters. Remember how Mayweather did
before fighting Pacquiao, he has lots of alibis before everything takes place.
That fight brings a huge amount of money for these two fighters, but there's nothing special Mayweather does his
usual routine, run and protect to avoid having serious damages.
November 15, 2021, 09:20:33 AM
Beat Butler first then maybe they can start the talk with Inoue if he wants to risk his belt for a unification fight. We are all waiting for that big fight to happen because not only it will bring entertainment, it's also a chance for Casimero to prove that he is the best in his division.
There's already the talk with Inoue but it was postponed when this match of Butler came in and was pursued by WBO. I agree that Casimero has to beat Butler first.So after this match, he can move on with anyone whom he wants to fight but there's the most high chance that it's going to be with Inoue since it has already been talked about by Casimero then the unexpected has happened that he has to fight first Butler.
Actually, before the postpone, Casimero and Inoue already have a scheduled fight last year but got canceled. This year, it was the 2nd negotiation already before WBO mandated a fight between Casimero and Butler.
Butler knows that Casimero is the one hyped on the match. He will do everything too to beat Quadro Alas to have some big fights too in the future.
I believed that the Casimero vs Inoue fight news before was just all hype, yes they have a verbal argument in the public, but that's it. We didn't see any from both sides really trying to make the fight. Sean Gibbons of MP (former handler of Casimero), was also all talk, while Bob Arum keeps silent.
So it was just an obvious ploy to make some noise specially for Casimero.
And now he has to go to his mandatory first before getting Inoue.
So what happened to the statement of Inoue?
Naoya Inoue responds to Casimero’s taunts: ‘Please organize a match’
If Inoue cannot make this happen then it's really true that Bob Arum just wants to play safe. Inoue is still his cash cow and as long as Inoue will not fight a high caliber fighter, he will be able to maintain his undefeated record.
November 15, 2021, 05:01:12 AM
Beat Butler first then maybe they can start the talk with Inoue if he wants to risk his belt for a unification fight. We are all waiting for that big fight to happen because not only it will bring entertainment, it's also a chance for Casimero to prove that he is the best in his division.
There's already the talk with Inoue but it was postponed when this match of Butler came in and was pursued by WBO. I agree that Casimero has to beat Butler first.So after this match, he can move on with anyone whom he wants to fight but there's the most high chance that it's going to be with Inoue since it has already been talked about by Casimero then the unexpected has happened that he has to fight first Butler.
Actually, before the postpone, Casimero and Inoue already have a scheduled fight last year but got canceled. This year, it was the 2nd negotiation already before WBO mandated a fight between Casimero and Butler.
Butler knows that Casimero is the one hyped on the match. He will do everything too to beat Quadro Alas to have some big fights too in the future.
I believed that the Casimero vs Inoue fight news before was just all hype, yes they have a verbal argument in the public, but that's it. We didn't see any from both sides really trying to make the fight. Sean Gibbons of MP (former handler of Casimero), was also all talk, while Bob Arum keeps silent.
So it was just an obvious ploy to make some noise specially for Casimero.
And now he has to go to his mandatory first before getting Inoue.
November 15, 2021, 04:27:25 AM
Beat Butler first then maybe they can start the talk with Inoue if he wants to risk his belt for a unification fight. We are all waiting for that big fight to happen because not only it will bring entertainment, it's also a chance for Casimero to prove that he is the best in his division.
There's already the talk with Inoue but it was postponed when this match of Butler came in and was pursued by WBO. I agree that Casimero has to beat Butler first.So after this match, he can move on with anyone whom he wants to fight but there's the most high chance that it's going to be with Inoue since it has already been talked about by Casimero then the unexpected has happened that he has to fight first Butler.
Actually, before the postpone, Casimero and Inoue already have a scheduled fight last year but got canceled. This year, it was the 2nd negotiation already before WBO mandated a fight between Casimero and Butler.
Butler knows that Casimero is the one hyped on the match. He will do everything too to beat Quadro Alas to have some big fights too in the future.
November 14, 2021, 07:26:46 PM
Of course he has to beat Butler first. I wonder what would have happened with the fight against Inoue if Casimero lost to Butler. Do you think there would be a fight with Inoue, would he have to have some elimination fights first?
End of the discussion between Inoue vs Casimero.
It needs again lots of prior fights for Casimero before getting attention to Inoue. There's no sense to push for the fight against Inoue if Casimero will not able to beat Butler. We are talking about a champion Inoue here and to challenge him, you must come from a fresh win.
But lets suppose Butler beats Casimero. Do you think it is possible for Butler to get a chance to fight Inoue in this situation?
That's possible only if Butler's camp is interested. As we know, there's no heated conversation history between Butler and Inoue to start the flame.
November 14, 2021, 06:55:59 PM
Beat Butler first then maybe they can start the talk with Inoue if he wants to risk his belt for a unification fight. We are all waiting for that big fight to happen because not only it will bring entertainment, it's also a chance for Casimero to prove that he is the best in his division.
There's already the talk with Inoue but it was postponed when this match of Butler came in and was pursued by WBO. I agree that Casimero has to beat Butler first.So after this match, he can move on with anyone whom he wants to fight but there's the most high chance that it's going to be with Inoue since it has already been talked about by Casimero then the unexpected has happened that he has to fight first Butler.
Actually, before the postpone, Casimero and Inoue already have a scheduled fight last year but got canceled. This year, it was the 2nd negotiation already before WBO mandated a fight between Casimero and Butler.
Butler knows that Casimero is the one hyped on the match. He will do everything too to beat Quadro Alas to have some big fights too in the future.
I was just wondering about that. I know it's rather unlikely, because for me Casimero is also the favorite of this match. But lets suppose Butler beats Casimero. Do you think it is possible for Butler to get a chance to fight Inoue in this situation?
November 14, 2021, 06:51:38 PM
Beat Butler first then maybe they can start the talk with Inoue if he wants to risk his belt for a unification fight. We are all waiting for that big fight to happen because not only it will bring entertainment, it's also a chance for Casimero to prove that he is the best in his division.
There's already the talk with Inoue but it was postponed when this match of Butler came in and was pursued by WBO. I agree that Casimero has to beat Butler first.So after this match, he can move on with anyone whom he wants to fight but there's the most high chance that it's going to be with Inoue since it has already been talked about by Casimero then the unexpected has happened that he has to fight first Butler.
Actually, before the postpone, Casimero and Inoue already have a scheduled fight last year but got canceled. This year, it was the 2nd negotiation already before WBO mandated a fight between Casimero and Butler.
Butler knows that Casimero is the one hyped on the match. He will do everything too to beat Quadro Alas to have some big fights too in the future.
November 14, 2021, 06:50:42 PM
Beat Butler first then maybe they can start the talk with Inoue if he wants to risk his belt for a unification fight. We are all waiting for that big fight to happen because not only it will bring entertainment, it's also a chance for Casimero to prove that he is the best in his division.
There's already the talk with Inoue but it was postponed when this match of Butler came in and was pursued by WBO. I agree that Casimero has to beat Butler first.So after this match, he can move on with anyone whom he wants to fight but there's the most high chance that it's going to be with Inoue since it has already been talked about by Casimero then the unexpected has happened that he has to fight first Butler.
Of course he has to beat Butler first. I wonder what would have happened with the fight against Inoue if Casimero lost to Butler. Do you think there would be a fight with Inoue, would he have to have some elimination fights first?
November 14, 2021, 06:42:42 PM
Beat Butler first then maybe they can start the talk with Inoue if he wants to risk his belt for a unification fight. We are all waiting for that big fight to happen because not only it will bring entertainment, it's also a chance for Casimero to prove that he is the best in his division.
There's already the talk with Inoue but it was postponed when this match of Butler came in and was pursued by WBO. I agree that Casimero has to beat Butler first.So after this match, he can move on with anyone whom he wants to fight but there's the most high chance that it's going to be with Inoue since it has already been talked about by Casimero then the unexpected has happened that he has to fight first Butler.
November 14, 2021, 05:41:46 PM
As far as I can see, most of you bet on win of Casimero. I also think his hand will go up at the end of this fight.
You think when Casimero defeats Butler, another fight will be set between Casimero and Inoue?
Beat Butler first then maybe they can start the talk with Inoue if he wants to risk his belt for a unification fight. We are all waiting for that big fight to happen because not only it will bring entertainment, it's also a chance for Casimero to prove that he is the best in his division. You think when Casimero defeats Butler, another fight will be set between Casimero and Inoue?
John Riel Casimero says he will fight Naoya Inoue in December
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Three-division world champion John RIel Casimero said he will fight undefeated Japanese boxer Naoya Inoue later this year.
In a YouTube video posted on Monday, the WBO world bantamweight said he will fight Inoue in December.
In a YouTube video posted on Monday, the WBO world bantamweight said he will fight Inoue in December.
I think they already have an initial talk but unfortunately, this came in bad timing, so let's see next year if we can finally see the match that we like to see, and of course, you are right, Casimero has to beat Butler first who is blocking that from happening.
November 14, 2021, 05:14:44 PM
As far as I can see, most of you bet on win of Casimero. I also think his hand will go up at the end of this fight.
You think when Casimero defeats Butler, another fight will be set between Casimero and Inoue?
Beat Butler first then maybe they can start the talk with Inoue if he wants to risk his belt for a unification fight. We are all waiting for that big fight to happen because not only it will bring entertainment, it's also a chance for Casimero to prove that he is the best in his division. You think when Casimero defeats Butler, another fight will be set between Casimero and Inoue?
November 14, 2021, 05:12:43 PM
As far as I can see, most of you bet on win of Casimero. I also think his hand will go up at the end of this fight.
You think when Casimero defeats Butler, another fight will be set between Casimero and Inoue?
You think when Casimero defeats Butler, another fight will be set between Casimero and Inoue?
November 14, 2021, 04:57:58 PM
I also believe that Butler is not on Casimero's level, and this is just a mandatory fight. If Casimero wants to make more money fight, raising his popularities by winning with a very interesting and enjoyable fight might take place.
Fans are always expecting quality fight, even with a mandatory fight. He needs to showcase his skills and talents, powerful combo sending Butler to
a KO would delight more viewers.
Fans are always expecting quality fight, even with a mandatory fight. He needs to showcase his skills and talents, powerful combo sending Butler to
a KO would delight more viewers.
That is also what I'm thinking. Butler is not a threat to Casimero's belt at least for now. The only unfortunate thing that happened in this fight is the money that the champ would receive as it's not so lucrative but this issue is now under the bridge as I have not heard from Team Casimero whining about the money they will get fighting this mandatory, wonder what the CEO of Probellum promised to Quadro Alas if he wins this one.
November 14, 2021, 03:16:04 PM
If he lose on this match, no more Naoya Inoue talks.
Don't worry he won't lose this fight. 
We should always be like that, believing that he will win each fight that he has.
I also believe that Butler is not on Casimero's level, and this is just a mandatory fight. If Casimero wants to make more money fight, raising his popularities by winning with a very interesting and enjoyable fight might take place.
Fans are always expecting quality fight, even with a mandatory fight. He needs to showcase his skills and talents, powerful combo sending Butler to
a KO would delight more viewers.
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