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Topic: [Boxing]: Sultan vs Butler - WBO Bantamweight Interim title fight. - page 76. (Read 9104 times)

legendary
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^^ Recently, we have huge upset when Kambosos knock down Teo Lopez and then won on decision. I do hope that Casimero won't suffer the same fate though, just saying. We all know that Casimero has all the advantage here specially in power department but he shouldn't be overconfident in this fight as he needs to win his mandatory and move on next year with a big unification with Inoue.
This is why people like sports in general, very few people gave Kambosos any chance to win that fight, after all many people thought of Lopez as one of the best boxers around the world, but since he clearly lost against Kambosos then that evaluation had to be reconsidered, so while I think that Casimero should be the obvious favorite here the same could happen to him if he is not careful and underestimates his opponent.
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So surprised upon seeing that odd it is indeed a huge.
Though I'm not really a very convincing fighter to give an upset, but surely there were those who are actually up to take the risk for the +1220.
I just don't feel like Butler would give Casimero an L judging on his highlights in YouTube, but I don't really have enough knowledge for this fighter and haven't seen his fights.
Nevertheless, there is always a chance for an upset.

Butler has 33-2 record, maybe his fight highlights are not so impressive but he has the capacity to beat Casimero.
His 2 losses are coming from Emmanuel Rodriguez and Zolani Tete, and he has never lose a single fight since 2018 (after his loss to Emmanuel Rodriguez)

I'm excited now knowing that the fight is less than 2 weeks from now.
Hopefully, free live streaming will be shared.
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So surprised upon seeing that odd it is indeed a huge.
Though I'm not really a very convincing fighter to give an upset, but surely there were those who are actually up to take the risk for the +1220.
I just don't feel like Butler would give Casimero an L judging on his highlights in YouTube, but I don't really have enough knowledge for this fighter and haven't seen his fights.
Nevertheless, there is always a chance for an upset.
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Thanks for sharing the odds, the odds of Butler is so attractive, I'm sure there are bettors who would risk their money on Butler as upset as possible in boxing, and since the upset of Kambasos to Lopez is still very early, they might consider this bet.

As for me, I think I'm just gonna enjoy watching without a bet if I could not find good odds on Casimero, maybe round 1-3, that should give a good odds than betting on the ML.. let's see if the odds are available soon.
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The betting odds that we are all waiting for are now available.

Not yet in our crypto betting sites but I think it's already up in some fiat sportsbook, especially the big ones.


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John Riel Casimero has opened as the huge -2400 betting favorite in his third title defense against Paul Butler.

Casimero and Butler will co-headline the first-ever boxing event promoted by Probellum Promotions of former GBP boss Richard Schaefer.
Butler is currently listed as a heavy +1220 betting underdog after being favored by at least -1000 in each of his previous six bouts.
https://www.thesportsgeek.com/news/bookies-install-john-riel-casimero-as-massive-betting-favorite-versus-paul-butler/

Tickets are also now available if you want to watch it live.
https://probellum.com/probellum-revolution-probellum-to-stage-world-championship-double-header-in-its-inaugural-event/
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^^ Recently, we have huge upset when Kambosos knock down Teo Lopez and then won on decision. I do hope that Casimero won't suffer the same fate though, just saying. We all know that Casimero has all the advantage here specially in power department but he shouldn't be overconfident in this fight as he needs to win his mandatory and move on next year with a big unification with Inoue.

The good thing about Casimero is that he doesn't underestimate his opponents though he talked trash that's just part of selling the fight. Anything can happen inside the ring as it boils down to who wants to win more and train hard for it and Casimero knows this, that is why he is preparing fr this fight like there's no tomorrow.

We have witnessed many exciting fights over the few weeks, I hope this fight should be the same.
Casimero is the heavy favorite here and fans are rooting for him to win. It might not be as exciting as what others think since he is  just fighting the WBO challenger but I believe its still a worth to watch fight. After this, if he won against Butler he can possibly have a match against Donaire or Inoue, a big fight that Casimero wants, we'll see then.

Every fight of Casimero is exciting and he really goes for a knock out and that's why I've said that maybe if he is overconfident that he can take Butler punch and just walk over him, he might be an upset just like Lopez, who is very arrogant and thinks he can knockout Kambosos in round 1.

Anyway, they are different fighters and hopefully Casimero will not be confident about his mandatory in Butler.
Overconfidence is never been good on any sport no matter how good you are since there would be upset that could happen and  even we know that Casimero is strong and good but that wont really assure for him to win from time to time.

He needs to prove it out first and climb up to the ladder until he reaches Inoue on which the community or fans really been looking for this fight ahead.

For now all we do need is to see on how he would handle up things and this one would be a bumpy road.
legendary
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Every fight of Casimero is exciting and he really goes for a knock out and that's why I've said that maybe if he is overconfident that he can take Butler punch and just walk over him, he might be an upset just like Lopez, who is very arrogant and thinks he can knockout Kambosos in round 1.

Anyway, they are different fighters and hopefully Casimero will not be confident about his mandatory in Butler.

Hopefully Casimero learns from that last fight of Lopez. He should be aware that his opponent is doing all the best to beat him up,
he should also do the same, more trainings and take this as another level for his career, a ladder to make more good fights.

Still can't believe that Kambosos will survive those solid punches from Lopez in the early rounds,
but it does, and look what happened to Lopez's face.

Let's look and hope for Casimero. He still has that long way from this sport.
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^^ Recently, we have huge upset when Kambosos knock down Teo Lopez and then won on decision. I do hope that Casimero won't suffer the same fate though, just saying. We all know that Casimero has all the advantage here specially in power department but he shouldn't be overconfident in this fight as he needs to win his mandatory and move on next year with a big unification with Inoue.

The good thing about Casimero is that he doesn't underestimate his opponents though he talked trash that's just part of selling the fight. Anything can happen inside the ring as it boils down to who wants to win more and train hard for it and Casimero knows this, that is why he is preparing fr this fight like there's no tomorrow.

We have witnessed many exciting fights over the few weeks, I hope this fight should be the same.
Casimero is the heavy favorite here and fans are rooting for him to win. It might not be as exciting as what others think since he is  just fighting the WBO challenger but I believe its still a worth to watch fight. After this, if he won against Butler he can possibly have a match against Donaire or Inoue, a big fight that Casimero wants, we'll see then.

Every fight of Casimero is exciting and he really goes for a knock out and that's why I've said that maybe if he is overconfident that he can take Butler punch and just walk over him, he might be an upset just like Lopez, who is very arrogant and thinks he can knockout Kambosos in round 1.

Anyway, they are different fighters and hopefully Casimero will not be confident about his mandatory in Butler.
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^^ Recently, we have huge upset when Kambosos knock down Teo Lopez and then won on decision. I do hope that Casimero won't suffer the same fate though, just saying. We all know that Casimero has all the advantage here specially in power department but he shouldn't be overconfident in this fight as he needs to win his mandatory and move on next year with a big unification with Inoue.

The good thing about Casimero is that he doesn't underestimate his opponents though he talked trash that's just part of selling the fight. Anything can happen inside the ring as it boils down to who wants to win more and train hard for it and Casimero knows this, that is why he is preparing fr this fight like there's no tomorrow.

We have witnessed many exciting fights over the few weeks, I hope this fight should be the same.
Casimero is the heavy favorite here and fans are rooting for him to win. It might not be as exciting as what others think since he is  just fighting the WBO challenger but I believe its still a worth to watch fight. After this, if he won against Butler he can possibly have a match against Donaire or Inoue, a big fight that Casimero wants, we'll see then.

Not just it's because Casimero is fighting a mandatory, it's because this is in the lower weight class wherein no one pays attention except hardcore boxing fans or fans of this Filipino fighters making their names in the 126 and below weight division.

But hopefully, if Casimero pass this test and win, then maybe we will get some attention with him and Inoue fight in the US next year.
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^^ Recently, we have huge upset when Kambosos knock down Teo Lopez and then won on decision. I do hope that Casimero won't suffer the same fate though, just saying. We all know that Casimero has all the advantage here specially in power department but he shouldn't be overconfident in this fight as he needs to win his mandatory and move on next year with a big unification with Inoue.

The good thing about Casimero is that he doesn't underestimate his opponents though he talked trash that's just part of selling the fight. Anything can happen inside the ring as it boils down to who wants to win more and train hard for it and Casimero knows this, that is why he is preparing fr this fight like there's no tomorrow.

We have witnessed many exciting fights over the few weeks, I hope this fight should be the same.
Casimero is the heavy favorite here and fans are rooting for him to win. It might not be as exciting as what others think since he is  just fighting the WBO challenger but I believe its still a worth to watch fight.

I think he is the heavy favorite but we need to wait for the betting odds to confirm that. As of now, the odds are still not available so we have no idea how favorite he is, it's always normal to see the champion is being the favorite in the fight, but as to how favorite he is, that remains to be seen.

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After this, if he won against Butler he can possibly have a match against Donaire or Inoue, a big fight that Casimero wants, we'll see then.

Well, hopefully, Inoue will keep his words because that's a good fight and I don't think Donaire would fight Casimero since they are under the same promotion.
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^^ Recently, we have huge upset when Kambosos knock down Teo Lopez and then won on decision. I do hope that Casimero won't suffer the same fate though, just saying. We all know that Casimero has all the advantage here specially in power department but he shouldn't be overconfident in this fight as he needs to win his mandatory and move on next year with a big unification with Inoue.

The good thing about Casimero is that he doesn't underestimate his opponents though he talked trash that's just part of selling the fight. Anything can happen inside the ring as it boils down to who wants to win more and train hard for it and Casimero knows this, that is why he is preparing fr this fight like there's no tomorrow.

We have witnessed many exciting fights over the few weeks, I hope this fight should be the same.
Casimero is the heavy favorite here and fans are rooting for him to win. It might not be as exciting as what others think since he is  just fighting the WBO challenger but I believe its still a worth to watch fight. After this, if he won against Butler he can possibly have a match against Donaire or Inoue, a big fight that Casimero wants, we'll see then.
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That's a good analysis and maybe the camp of Casimero has already spot that weakness of him. If the strategy is going to beat him faster, Casimero is good with that. And if they want to prolong the rounds up to round 7 and more, I think Casimero can also manage that to happen.
The chance that we see as a fan analysts is high and that's why many of his fans are confident about that. But as I've said, we shouldn't ignore the numbers because they don't lie.

tbh, i want this fight to be over so we know if casimero-inoue match will push thru. lol so it is like a race between casimero & donaire, who will get their hands first on inoue. now, inoue is just waiting for his opponents. interested who will beat inoue first.
in the mean time, wait for bookies to list this fight. casimero may slightly be the favourite here.
Everyone wants it to be over but we can't do anything with that. It's all need to happen and we just have to be patient until this match is over.
Let this match commence and soon we're going to see the next match of Casimero which we're more excited to see than this one. But as respect, let's just wait until things are over for this match.
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^^ Recently, we have huge upset when Kambosos knock down Teo Lopez and then won on decision. I do hope that Casimero won't suffer the same fate though, just saying. We all know that Casimero has all the advantage here specially in power department but he shouldn't be overconfident in this fight as he needs to win his mandatory and move on next year with a big unification with Inoue.

The good thing about Casimero is that he doesn't underestimate his opponents though he talked trash that's just part of selling the fight. Anything can happen inside the ring as it boils down to who wants to win more and train hard for it and Casimero knows this, that is why he is preparing fr this fight like there's no tomorrow.

We have witnessed many exciting fights over the few weeks, I hope this fight should be the same.
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^^ Recently, we have huge upset when Kambosos knock down Teo Lopez and then won on decision.
That shocked the world but Kambasos deserve that win as he was the better fighter in that fight.

I do hope that Casimero won't suffer the same fate though, just saying. We all know that Casimero has all the advantage here specially in power department but he shouldn't be overconfident in this fight as he needs to win his mandatory and move on next year with a big unification with Inoue.
We never know and I think Casimero would not be a heavy favorite in this fight, so it's not a big upset.
I saw one poster won his bet on Kambasos with an odd odds of x18, I'm not sure if we can get that kind of odds here.
legendary
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^^ Recently, we have huge upset when Kambosos knock down Teo Lopez and then won on decision. I do hope that Casimero won't suffer the same fate though, just saying. We all know that Casimero has all the advantage here specially in power department but he shouldn't be overconfident in this fight as he needs to win his mandatory and move on next year with a big unification with Inoue.

It's possible that Butler may have a punchers chance against Casimero. But I think Casimero is well aware of it and with his experience, for sure he will avoid an upset here at any cost. However, if there is then we can't do anything about it, that's part of boxing, anything can happen. The best thing is that he train as hard as he does and don't look at Butler as just like a mandatory fighter.
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^^ Recently, we have huge upset when Kambosos knock down Teo Lopez and then won on decision. I do hope that Casimero won't suffer the same fate though, just saying. We all know that Casimero has all the advantage here specially in power department but he shouldn't be overconfident in this fight as he needs to win his mandatory and move on next year with a big unification with Inoue.
legendary
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Well, Casimero always want to get into a clash and he's sure an in fighter. I'm trying to familiarize myself with Butler since I don't follow him and just known him when this order of WBO came.
But don't be too sure about the match, Butler has a good professional record and fans shouldn't ignore it. Yeah, I'm a Casimero fan but likes the record of Butler.

Both Casimero and Butler had a common opponent which is Tete. Tete KOed Butler, Casimero KOed Tete but that equation doesn't give Casimero the automatic win as this is boxing, styles make a fight, and sometimes lucky punch can turn a fight in favor of the underdog.

Butler and Casimero were having weight problems before a fight but the good thing about the latter is he is already 95 percent ready for this battle according to the training video he released on social media and he looks trim.
This is interesting information, I did not knew that both fighters were having problems with their weight, after all if someone is able to get under the weight necessary for the fight and the other is not capable to do that in time, they will have to go through horrible means to try to lower the weight in a short amount of time and this reduces their endurance and their stamina, and in fights that are close it can be more than enough to decide the winner of the fight.
legendary
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I have watched some of their fights and have noticed that they have each strengths. Butler has great focus and endurance but I would definitely be excited knowing how long he could keep that kind of state since Casimero uses his rage and power. Though they both  have powerful punches to throw, it will be an interesting fight on how they will manage their differences. Seeing from an angle, Casimero is an aggressive opponent, and Butler is bit patient, it would be great seeing him burst. But Casimero would hurt his ego if loses though, he is a bit talkative.

They're unique in their own ways when it comes to the boxing ring and I could imagine how they're going to click as they counter each other's strength. I guess they have to learn deeply about each other's strengths and weaknesses so they will know how they'll move. Casimero on the other hand is preparing a lot for this and I hope that Butler is preparing the same way.
Both fighters will measure the strength of each other in the first few rounds, testing ground for sure.

Once they've got the confidence for sure they will keep attacking and try to win the fight, Butler, from his past fights he loves to
attack and so with Casimero, it might be an interesting meet up inside the ring, a battle of strength and power punches.

Hopefully, they will not disappoint the fans.
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I have watched some of their fights and have noticed that they have each strengths. Butler has great focus and endurance but I would definitely be excited knowing how long he could keep that kind of state since Casimero uses his rage and power. Though they both  have powerful punches to throw, it will be an interesting fight on how they will manage their differences. Seeing from an angle, Casimero is an aggressive opponent, and Butler is bit patient, it would be great seeing him burst. But Casimero would hurt his ego if loses though, he is a bit talkative.

They're unique in their own ways when it comes to the boxing ring and I could imagine how they're going to click as they counter each other's strength. I guess they have to learn deeply about each other's strengths and weaknesses so they will know how they'll move. Casimero on the other hand is preparing a lot for this and I hope that Butler is preparing the same way.
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I have watched some of their fights and have noticed that they have each strengths. Butler has great focus and endurance but I would definitely be excited knowing how long he could keep that kind of state since Casimero uses his rage and power. Though they both  have powerful punches to throw, it will be an interesting fight on how they will manage their differences. Seeing from an angle, Casimero is an aggressive opponent, and Butler is bit patient, it would be great seeing him burst. But Casimero would hurt his ego if loses though, he is a bit talkative.
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