[Boxing]: Sultan vs Butler - WBO Bantamweight Interim title fight. - page 77.

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Quote from: Sanitough on November 27, 2021, 07:40:41 AM

Based on what I see in Butler's fight highlights, he doesn't run, he is mostly the aggressor in the fight that's why I like this fight because I'm expecting that there's a KO, but of course, I'm hoping that Casimero will get that win so the fans will be impressed and they will push the fight between Inoue.

That's good if Butler is like that. Casimero likes a close fight, so is Butler. We can now see what we didn't able to see during the fight of Casimero against Rigo where 50% of Casimero's stamina was just used on chasing the latter lol.

It's a must-win for Casimero so he really needs to give his all which I'm sure he will. Inoue is waiting if he will win in that match.

As usual, if the schedule will be followed, expect betting sites to list the match 2 days before the fight.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on November 26, 2021, 05:50:55 PM

But don't be too sure about the match, Butler has a good professional record and fans shouldn't ignore it. Yeah, I'm a Casimero fan but likes the record of Butler.

Same here. Don't consider Butler as an easy opponent. Instead, take Butler as Casimero's challenge before going to the Finals against Inoue. I'm watching some of Butler's past winning matches and what I noticed is, he's lacking stamina when the fight is reaching Round 7 up. Casimero's stamina, as from what I observed, can last up to 12 rounds but he began showings signs of fatigue in Round 9 or 10 which is usual to any boxers.

Let's see how they will work on that in the actual fight.

That's a good analysis and maybe the camp of Casimero has already spot that weakness of him. If the strategy is going to beat him faster, Casimero is good with that. And if they want to prolong the rounds up to round 7 and more, I think Casimero can also manage that to happen.
The chance that we see as a fan analysts is high and that's why many of his fans are confident about that. But as I've said, we shouldn't ignore the numbers because they don't lie.

tbh, i want this fight to be over so we know if casimero-inoue match will push thru. lol so it is like a race between casimero & donaire, who will get their hands first on inoue. now, inoue is just waiting for his opponents. interested who will beat inoue first.
in the mean time, wait for bookies to list this fight. casimero may slightly be the favourite here.

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Quote from: agustina2 on November 26, 2021, 06:45:08 PM

Quote from: batang_bitcoin on November 26, 2021, 05:50:55 PM

But don't be too sure about the match, Butler has a good professional record and fans shouldn't ignore it. Yeah, I'm a Casimero fan but likes the record of Butler.

Same here. Don't consider Butler as an easy opponent. Instead, take Butler as Casimero's challenge before going to the Finals against Inoue. I'm watching some of Butler's past winning matches and what I noticed is, he's lacking stamina when the fight is reaching Round 7 up. Casimero's stamina, as from what I observed, can last up to 12 rounds but he began showings signs of fatigue in Round 9 or 10 which is usual to any boxers.

Let's see how they will work on that in the actual fight.

That's a good analysis and maybe the camp of Casimero has already spot that weakness of him. If the strategy is going to beat him faster, Casimero is good with that. And if they want to prolong the rounds up to round 7 and more, I think Casimero can also manage that to happen.
The chance that we see as a fan analysts is high and that's why many of his fans are confident about that. But as I've said, we shouldn't ignore the numbers because they don't lie.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on November 27, 2021, 05:16:13 PM

Usually, they target that weight range 3-5 days before the fight but seems Casimero is very focused and training hard for this one, Probellum must have said something to the champ Grin

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Agree with you. During that period prior to the fight, boxers will now try to catch the weight requirements. Either of the boxers surely knows already what to do how to reach the allowed weight on the weigh-in.

And after that, they will now gain weight rapidly. I think Casimero always has an additional weight of 10lbs in the actual fight.

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Quote from: Baofeng on November 26, 2021, 06:19:35 PM

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Butler and Casimero were having weight problems before a fight but the good thing about the latter is he is already 95 percent ready for this battle according to the training video he released on social media and he looks trim.

This is the only thing that I'm concern about Casimero though, his weight problem. He looks overweight at some time and having a hard time making weight because his body is growing as we age. Hopefully though this won't be a problem here and it's good to hear that he is 95% ready already and willing to go.

Yup, he's in good shape right now with 14 days to go before fight night, he could easily shed those extra pounds. Based on what he said in his video, he is now 126 lbs, that's a very good weight from the nutritionist/trainer's point of view. Usually, they target that weight range 3-5 days before the fight but seems Casimero is very focused and training hard for this one, Probellum must have said something to the champ Grin

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Quote from: Johnyz on November 27, 2021, 04:19:44 PM

Quote from: Sanitough on November 27, 2021, 07:40:41 AM

Quote from: Jating on November 27, 2021, 06:00:04 AM

No more running like the Rigo fight and hopefully Butler is not that kind of fighter.

Based on what I see in Butler's fight highlights, he doesn't run, he is mostly the aggressor in the fight that's why I like this fight because I'm expecting that there's a KO, but of course, I'm hoping that Casimero will get that win so the fans will be impressed and they will push the fight between Inoue.

I think that's the only way for the camp of Inoue to be forced to sign the contract, if the fans are asking it, they should respond.

If the fans is asking that only means there’s a money on that so there’s no reason for them not to listen to the fans. Casimero have to win on this to earn that golden ticket against Inoue, though i heard the news about Inoue also wants to fight Casimero even before this order by WBO, for sure they’ll talk next about this one since Casimero still need to focus on his upcoming match.

That was the response of Inoue because Casimero won't stop insulting him with his trash talks. However, it seems like the final word is not coming from Inoue but from his promoter Bob Arum, if Bob would not make allow it, the fight will not be possible.

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Quote from: Sanitough on November 27, 2021, 07:40:41 AM

Quote from: Jating on November 27, 2021, 06:00:04 AM

No more running like the Rigo fight and hopefully Butler is not that kind of fighter.

Based on what I see in Butler's fight highlights, he doesn't run, he is mostly the aggressor in the fight that's why I like this fight because I'm expecting that there's a KO, but of course, I'm hoping that Casimero will get that win so the fans will be impressed and they will push the fight between Inoue.

I think that's the only way for the camp of Inoue to be forced to sign the contract, if the fans are asking it, they should respond.

If the fans is asking that only means there’s a money on that so there’s no reason for them not to listen to the fans. Casimero have to win on this to earn that golden ticket against Inoue, though i heard the news about Inoue also wants to fight Casimero even before this order by WBO, for sure they’ll talk next about this one since Casimero still need to focus on his upcoming match.

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This is something that Casimero does have. He always manages to make something unexpected and even he is quite deft in intimidating his opponent.
With the weakness of Butler who often throws punches, I think this will be used because when that happens Butler's defense will be a little weaker and this must be used well by Casimero.
I think the aggressiveness of these two boxers will present something different in this match, now it depends on how their stamina and strategy are. If Butler will apply the strategy as before by wasting punches then it is certain that Casimero will win this match

And if they think that they can beat Casimero by trying to brawl against it, they are going to be mistaken. Just like what Duke Micah did, Micah goes toe to toe with Casimero in early rounds and he has some success. But once Casimero landed that power on his chin, ohh, he just goes down, got bloodied and was never the same again. So that's how Casimero is, if Butler goes this route, for sure this match might ended early with stoppage or knock out.

In that match Micah was actually very good in the first round he was very aggressive and intimidating, but he was too excited and forgot about his defense and forgot that it was his opponent Casimero who always surprised with his punches.
You're right, if the butler does the same thing as Micah did he could fall and he could become the next victim of Casimero.
Now Butler has to prepare something if he wants to win the game because Casimero's defense is very difficult to penetrate

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Quote from: Sanitough on November 27, 2021, 07:40:41 AM

Quote from: Jating on November 27, 2021, 06:00:04 AM

No more running like the Rigo fight and hopefully Butler is not that kind of fighter.

Based on what I see in Butler's fight highlights, he doesn't run, he is mostly the aggressor in the fight that's why I like this fight because I'm expecting that there's a KO, but of course, I'm hoping that Casimero will get that win so the fans will be impressed and they will push the fight between Inoue.

I think that's the only way for the camp of Inoue to be forced to sign the contract, if the fans are asking it, they should respond.

Casimero is always seeking for K.O so this is little much expected to see on this fight but hopefully he will not underestimate his opponent and take this fight seriously since if he let his guard down and give opportunity for Butler to find better strategy then he might sleep in the ring. But I doubt this will happen so let see, this fight still exciting to see eventhough we didn't get the fight what we want for him and maybe we can see that one once he's done with his current assignment.

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Quote from: Jating on November 27, 2021, 06:00:04 AM

No more running like the Rigo fight and hopefully Butler is not that kind of fighter.

Based on what I see in Butler's fight highlights, he doesn't run, he is mostly the aggressor in the fight that's why I like this fight because I'm expecting that there's a KO, but of course, I'm hoping that Casimero will get that win so the fans will be impressed and they will push the fight between Inoue.

I think that's the only way for the camp of Inoue to be forced to sign the contract, if the fans are asking it, they should respond.

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Quote from: agustina2 on November 26, 2021, 06:45:08 PM

Same here. Don't consider Butler as an easy opponent. Instead, take Butler as Casimero's challenge before going to the Finals against Inoue. I'm watching some of Butler's past winning matches and what I noticed is, he's lacking stamina when the fight is reaching Round 7 up. Casimero's stamina, as from what I observed, can last up to 12 rounds but he began showings signs of fatigue in Round 9 or 10 which is usual to any boxers.

Let's see how they will work on that in the actual fight.

Of course Casimero will have high chance to win this fight, literally stamina is very important for any sports including boxing. We already see many boxer got KO'ed due to exhaustion even he's very aggresive on the first 7 rounds, if he can't KO'ed Casimero he will lose. But yeah, the problem is Casimero love to play aggressive... he doesn't like to play more defensive. It will be toe to toe on the first 7 rounds.

And the fight might not even last 7 rounds, Lol. I think Casimero's stamina has been tested in his last fight wherein he has to chase Rigo for the whole fight. He try to be aggressive and uses a lot of endurance and yet he didn't get tired as we expected. But I would really love to see a toe to toe battle between the two. No more running like the Rigo fight and hopefully Butler is not that kind of fighter.

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Quote from: agustina2 on November 26, 2021, 06:45:08 PM

Same here. Don't consider Butler as an easy opponent. Instead, take Butler as Casimero's challenge before going to the Finals against Inoue. I'm watching some of Butler's past winning matches and what I noticed is, he's lacking stamina when the fight is reaching Round 7 up. Casimero's stamina, as from what I observed, can last up to 12 rounds but he began showings signs of fatigue in Round 9 or 10 which is usual to any boxers.

Let's see how they will work on that in the actual fight.

Of course Casimero will have high chance to win this fight, literally stamina is very important for any sports including boxing. We already see many boxer got KO'ed due to exhaustion even he's very aggresive on the first 7 rounds, if he can't KO'ed Casimero he will lose. But yeah, the problem is Casimero love to play aggressive... he doesn't like to play more defensive. It will be toe to toe on the first 7 rounds.

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Quote from: agustina2 on November 26, 2021, 06:45:08 PM

Quote from: batang_bitcoin on November 26, 2021, 05:50:55 PM

But don't be too sure about the match, Butler has a good professional record and fans shouldn't ignore it. Yeah, I'm a Casimero fan but likes the record of Butler.

Same here. Don't consider Butler as an easy opponent. Instead, take Butler as Casimero's challenge before going to the Finals against Inoue. I'm watching some of Butler's past winning matches and what I noticed is, he's lacking stamina when the fight is reaching Round 7 up. Casimero's stamina, as from what I observed, can last up to 12 rounds but he began showings signs of fatigue in Round 9 or 10 which is usual to any boxers.

Let's see how they will work on that in the actual fight.

Well if this fight goes to distance and with a lot of swing rounds and power being throw maybe either one of them are going to slow down because obviously, they will be tired.

But stamina wise, I think Casimero still has the edge and he knows how to manage his punches just like in the Rigo fight. Those punches will take a toll if it didn't hit anything, but I doubt it, with Casimero's caliber, his punches are bound to hit his opponent no matter what.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on November 26, 2021, 05:50:55 PM

But don't be too sure about the match, Butler has a good professional record and fans shouldn't ignore it. Yeah, I'm a Casimero fan but likes the record of Butler.

Same here. Don't consider Butler as an easy opponent. Instead, take Butler as Casimero's challenge before going to the Finals against Inoue. I'm watching some of Butler's past winning matches and what I noticed is, he's lacking stamina when the fight is reaching Round 7 up. Casimero's stamina, as from what I observed, can last up to 12 rounds but he began showings signs of fatigue in Round 9 or 10 which is usual to any boxers.

Let's see how they will work on that in the actual fight.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on November 26, 2021, 06:14:51 PM

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Well, Casimero always want to get into a clash and he's sure an in fighter. I'm trying to familiarize myself with Butler since I don't follow him and just known him when this order of WBO came.
But don't be too sure about the match, Butler has a good professional record and fans shouldn't ignore it. Yeah, I'm a Casimero fan but likes the record of Butler.

Both Casimero and Butler had a common opponent which is Tete. Tete KOed Butler, Casimero KOed Tete but that equation doesn't give Casimero the automatic win as this is boxing, styles make a fight, and sometimes lucky punch can turn a fight in favor of the underdog.

And triangle theory doesn't work in boxing, it is still the style the makes the fight and I do believed that triangle theory is not applicable to boxing or it is just a myth.

Quote from: bisdak40 on November 26, 2021, 06:14:51 PM

Butler and Casimero were having weight problems before a fight but the good thing about the latter is he is already 95 percent ready for this battle according to the training video he released on social media and he looks trim.

This is the only thing that I'm concern about Casimero though, his weight problem. He looks overweight at some time and having a hard time making weight because his body is growing as we age. Hopefully though this won't be a problem here and it's good to hear that he is 95% ready already and willing to go.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on November 26, 2021, 05:50:55 PM

Well, Casimero always want to get into a clash and he's sure an in fighter. I'm trying to familiarize myself with Butler since I don't follow him and just known him when this order of WBO came.
But don't be too sure about the match, Butler has a good professional record and fans shouldn't ignore it. Yeah, I'm a Casimero fan but likes the record of Butler.

Both Casimero and Butler had a common opponent which is Tete. Tete KOed Butler, Casimero KOed Tete but that equation doesn't give Casimero the automatic win as this is boxing, styles make a fight, and sometimes lucky punch can turn a fight in favor of the underdog.

Butler and Casimero were having weight problems before a fight but the good thing about the latter is he is already 95 percent ready for this battle according to the training video he released on social media and he looks trim.

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Quote from: Kasabus on November 26, 2021, 04:51:13 PM

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Yeah, Butler is on a better situation here since he's the challenger. But as said, we're all for the win to Casimero on this match and that's all due because we want to him to continue fighting for Inoue afterwards.
Well, it's just going to be a little bit for the wait and it's all going to worth it despite the opponent for now isn't what we've been waiting for.

It's always worth seeing a fight that we know both fighters are willing to go toe to toe, knowing Casimero, that's the type of fight he wants as that's where he is more successful. Butler although not anymore a champion still has a solid record, so Casimero should consider it a big challenge in preparation for his big fight against Inoue.

Well, Casimero always want to get into a clash and he's sure an in fighter. I'm trying to familiarize myself with Butler since I don't follow him and just known him when this order of WBO came.
But don't be too sure about the match, Butler has a good professional record and fans shouldn't ignore it. Yeah, I'm a Casimero fan but likes the record of Butler.

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Quote from: Botnake on November 26, 2021, 03:31:16 PM

Quote from: Jating on November 26, 2021, 01:54:31 PM

@Russlenat - that article might be outdated already, Casimero is no longer with MP promotions.

Therefore MP promotion was not telling the truth because they didn't make the fight possible, under the new promoter of Casimero, the approach could be different and they always have the say on whom they will face Inoue first, and it could be Donaire, maybe.

Also, if we noticed, Casimero does not trash talk anymore, so probably it's because of the new promoter.

There’s no noise with Casimero with regards to this up coming match most probably because he was restricted to do that or the WBO gave a warning to him. Its almost December now and I can’t see any news about this match even on our local news, is there already a final date for this or a possible reschedule of the match?

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on November 26, 2021, 04:46:33 PM

Quote from: harizen on November 25, 2021, 08:16:15 PM

Quote from: batang_bitcoin on November 25, 2021, 06:46:03 PM

KO or not, I'm expecting that Casimero will certainly give his best on this fight. Maybe a quick end will give his fans good impression but as long as the fight goes clean and KO at any round, that would be fine to the other fans like me.
But for Butler, let's also give him the thought that he's also a good fighter that will also give his best shot on this fight. Well, but as a fan, we have our bias with Casimero.

Given most of us here are biased, we should expect that Casimero will be the dominant here. He's the champion here and Butler is the challenger. If no mandatory challenge is ordered by WBO, Butler won't have an opportunity to face the champion. That's where the inspiration will come from him because no need to fight other boxers as a requirement before facing the champion.

Snatching the title to Casimero will make Butler's name more popular that's why I see him as more encourage and eager to win compared to Casimero that has eyeing another target and not expected this mandatory fight. Although yes, it doesn't mean that Casimero won't prepare seriously. Of course, he is. It's not his style to look easy on every of his opponent.

Yeah, Butler is on a better situation here since he's the challenger. But as said, we're all for the win to Casimero on this match and that's all due because we want to him to continue fighting for Inoue afterwards.
Well, it's just going to be a little bit for the wait and it's all going to worth it despite the opponent for now isn't what we've been waiting for.

It's always worth seeing a fight that we know both fighters are willing to go toe to toe, knowing Casimero, that's the type of fight he wants as that's where he is more successful. Butler although not anymore a champion still has a solid record, so Casimero should consider it a big challenge in preparation for his big fight against Inoue.

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Quote from: harizen on November 25, 2021, 08:16:15 PM

Quote from: batang_bitcoin on November 25, 2021, 06:46:03 PM

KO or not, I'm expecting that Casimero will certainly give his best on this fight. Maybe a quick end will give his fans good impression but as long as the fight goes clean and KO at any round, that would be fine to the other fans like me.
But for Butler, let's also give him the thought that he's also a good fighter that will also give his best shot on this fight. Well, but as a fan, we have our bias with Casimero.

Given most of us here are biased, we should expect that Casimero will be the dominant here. He's the champion here and Butler is the challenger. If no mandatory challenge is ordered by WBO, Butler won't have an opportunity to face the champion. That's where the inspiration will come from him because no need to fight other boxers as a requirement before facing the champion.

Snatching the title to Casimero will make Butler's name more popular that's why I see him as more encourage and eager to win compared to Casimero that has eyeing another target and not expected this mandatory fight. Although yes, it doesn't mean that Casimero won't prepare seriously. Of course, he is. It's not his style to look easy on every of his opponent.

Yeah, Butler is on a better situation here since he's the challenger. But as said, we're all for the win to Casimero on this match and that's all due because we want to him to continue fighting for Inoue afterwards.
Well, it's just going to be a little bit for the wait and it's all going to worth it despite the opponent for now isn't what we've been waiting for.

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