[Boxing] Tank Davis vs. Ryan Garcia betting and discussion (May, 2023) - page 30.

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Quote from: Shamm on February 18, 2023, 11:02:36 AM

This is the best fight of Tank Davis because we all know that how Garcia will fight inside the ring and also we are seeing a good fight because tank Davis will be stronger if he study the technique of Davis and we all know that tank Davis will do his very best to win this match and also we all know that Garcia is doing great right now and base on. His performance on last fight we can see his determination and good strategy.

Well, his last fight, the other Garcia, Hector had some good start but when Tank Davis found his rhythm it became a different story.
Davis is a slow starter, he won't even try a lot of punches but most of them will surely be accurate. Out of 239 thrown, 99 landed versus 345 thrown and 55 landed for Hector.
I don't want to underestimate Ryan Garcia though as he will probably come prepared for those heavy punches that Davis will throw. He may have also strengthened his chin just in case he will be caught by one of those lethal punches.
Hector felt it, his corner felt it too that's why they hurriedly climb the ring just to stop the fight.

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This is the best fight of Tank Davis because we all know that how Garcia will fight inside the ring and also we are seeing a good fight because tank Davis will be stronger if he study the technique of Davis and we all know that tank Davis will do his very best to win this match and also we all know that Garcia is doing great right now and base on. His performance on last fight we can see his determination and good strategy.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 17, 2023, 06:56:09 PM

Quote from: AverageGlabella on February 16, 2023, 05:42:15 PM

How can a fight be made if he has pleased guilty? Any normal person would go to jail for hitting 4 people and fleeing the crime scene. I hate how rich famous people get away with everything. Any normal person gets jailed for many years for this. I hope Garcia knocks him out and teaches him a lesson I hope the fan base show that they are not supporters of him any more because of his hit and run. I used to like Tank but I have a entirely new view of him since I learned about this. I cannot believe he will get away with it and continue boxing.

Unfortunately, that's how the world works, rich and influential people can get away with it.

Anyhow, it's really hard to fathom that, but we might as well stay away from that issue and just again, hope that fight will happen. And probably this is one reason why so many people hate him like Bradley who also wishes that Ryan Garcia will knock him out cold so send him a rude awakening. Yeah, that ankle issue or him in a wheelchair could just be marketing ploy to sway people's opinion on him. But the question is, will it influence us? I don't think so.

Most probably, it won't, even if riding with a stretcher. Of course, we will get curious why but knowing about the reason afterwards, it won't matter anymore especially if they are just faking it.

Now, about Tank Davis's case, we shouldn't involve and connect their personal life to their career in the world of boxing as it's their personality and performance inside the ring will make the people choose them. People aren't really interested what's going on in their real life, what matters is how they will defeat every opponents they will face. We only want the entertainment they can bring and not their personal issues in life.

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Quote from: Sanitough on February 18, 2023, 07:20:13 AM

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I think that's what he inherited from Floyd though, being flamboyant and showy and brandish and so he has a huge entourage of all his homies watching it not buying though as it is for free.

Hopefully when he is no longer relevant, the same person will stick to him. Look at what happen to Broner, during the height of his career, he has a lot of people surrounding him. But now, you can barely see anyone at him walking in his fight. Tank should learn from it and not try to be Floyd.

It's not uncommon in boxing to have friends if you're successful, just as in real life. Floyd, a promoter who owns a gym, views everything as a business venture. For him, it's all about the money, and if you're of no use to him, he won't invest his time. However, it's important to remember that we don't really know these individuals in real life, as we only see what the media presents to us. Therefore, it's best to admire their athletic abilities in the ring, rather than their true personality.

If you want to have more friends, you need to be successful. I'm pretty sure that these two fighters have a lot of friends and followers because both are undefeated and are very popular in the boxing world. Whoever wins this fight will surely enjoy more stardom, while the loser is not a complete loser since he will still enjoy a huge amount of money from this fight. In addition, if there's a rematch clause in the contract, he can avenge his loss, which means another big payout incoming as well.

That is quite expected, just like in real life. All those people will suddenly seek and follow you whenever you have something to offer to them, it's like they will take advantage of what you have while you're still at the height of your success but unfortunately, when things suddenly decline, it is also expected that those people who are seeking you will also vanish.

But as for these boxers, these things are just a perks of what they attained in the boxing world. But all of it has an end, and this time, only one of them will win at the end of the day as a draw in these situation is unlikely. And for a rematch even if it is written in the contract, it will still depend of the first outcome. A rematch won't be profitable anymore if it's already evident who is the winner.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 17, 2023, 06:56:09 PM

Unfortunately, that's how the world works, rich and influential people can get away with it.

Anyhow, it's really hard to fathom that, but we might as well stay away from that issue and just again, hope that fight will happen. And probably this is one reason why so many people hate him like Bradley who also wishes that Ryan Garcia will knock him out cold so send him a rude awakening. Yeah, that ankle issue or him in a wheelchair could just be marketing ploy to sway people's opinion on him. But the question is, will it influence us? I don't think so.

I do not want to watch a criminal that has bribed his way out of jail if we do I hope to god that Ryan Garcia knocks him out in the 1st round. Why do so many fighters at the top of their career like Tank end up breaking the law and it is not small laws it usually includes them hurting and nearly killing people and then they get away with it. He should be stripped of his boxing license and not competing any more but boxing is corrupt and just want to make money from him and I bet they use this as a way of promoting the fight. It is disgusting what they do.

I do not think we should ignore the issue because we are part of the problem. He deserves to be booed out of the ring win or lose. He hurt a pregnant lady and he just run off. That is disgusting and shows his cowardice. I hope Garcia feels the same way and has extra motivation to knock him out and I hope he gives a post win speech about how disgusting it is that the boxing commission continues to support criminals.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on February 18, 2023, 01:27:26 AM

Quote from: TravelMug on February 18, 2023, 12:58:32 AM

I think that's what he inherited from Floyd though, being flamboyant and showy and brandish and so he has a huge entourage of all his homies watching it not buying though as it is for free.

Hopefully when he is no longer relevant, the same person will stick to him. Look at what happen to Broner, during the height of his career, he has a lot of people surrounding him. But now, you can barely see anyone at him walking in his fight. Tank should learn from it and not try to be Floyd.

It's not uncommon in boxing to have friends if you're successful, just as in real life. Floyd, a promoter who owns a gym, views everything as a business venture. For him, it's all about the money, and if you're of no use to him, he won't invest his time. However, it's important to remember that we don't really know these individuals in real life, as we only see what the media presents to us. Therefore, it's best to admire their athletic abilities in the ring, rather than their true personality.

If you want to have more friends, you need to be successful. I'm pretty sure that these two fighters have a lot of friends and followers because both are undefeated and are very popular in the boxing world. Whoever wins this fight will surely enjoy more stardom, while the loser is not a complete loser since he will still enjoy a huge amount of money from this fight. In addition, if there's a rematch clause in the contract, he can avenge his loss, which means another big payout incoming as well.

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Quote from: TravelMug on February 18, 2023, 12:58:32 AM

I think that's what he inherited from Floyd though, being flamboyant and showy and brandish and so he has a huge entourage of all his homies watching it not buying though as it is for free.

Hopefully when he is no longer relevant, the same person will stick to him. Look at what happen to Broner, during the height of his career, he has a lot of people surrounding him. But now, you can barely see anyone at him walking in his fight. Tank should learn from it and not try to be Floyd.

It's not uncommon in boxing to have friends if you're successful, just as in real life. Floyd, a promoter who owns a gym, views everything as a business venture. For him, it's all about the money, and if you're of no use to him, he won't invest his time. However, it's important to remember that we don't really know these individuals in real life, as we only see what the media presents to us. Therefore, it's best to admire their athletic abilities in the ring, rather than their true personality.

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Quote from: AverageGlabella on February 16, 2023, 05:42:15 PM

How can a fight be made if he has pleased guilty? Any normal person would go to jail for hitting 4 people and fleeing the crime scene. I hate how rich famous people get away with everything. Any normal person gets jailed for many years for this. I hope Garcia knocks him out and teaches him a lesson I hope the fan base show that they are not supporters of him any more because of his hit and run. I used to like Tank but I have a entirely new view of him since I learned about this. I cannot believe he will get away with it and continue boxing.

Unfortunately, that's how the world works, rich and influential people can get away with it.

Anyhow, it's really hard to fathom that, but we might as well stay away from that issue and just again, hope that fight will happen. And probably this is one reason why so many people hate him like Bradley who also wishes that Ryan Garcia will knock him out cold so send him a rude awakening. Yeah, that ankle issue or him in a wheelchair could just be marketing ploy to sway people's opinion on him. But the question is, will it influence us? I don't think so.

PBC has a solid community of boxing worshipping Al Hymen. PBC fan boys are usually the ones paying for Tanks tickets and PPVs inspite of him not fighting for the championship belts. Only the boxing casuals and fan boys are the ones calling Tank a world champion. So any antics Tank is doing these people will believe and ride the hype. Tank is also a million dollar fighter so he won't be scared of those lawsuits. Either he will pay to settle it or make a community service or stay in prison for a few days.

I think that's what he inherited from Floyd though, being flamboyant and showy and brandish and so he has a huge entourage of all his homies watching it not buying though as it is for free.

Hopefully when he is no longer relevant, the same person will stick to him. Look at what happen to Broner, during the height of his career, he has a lot of people surrounding him. But now, you can barely see anyone at him walking in his fight. Tank should learn from it and not try to be Floyd.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 17, 2023, 06:56:09 PM

Quote from: AverageGlabella on February 16, 2023, 05:42:15 PM

How can a fight be made if he has pleased guilty? Any normal person would go to jail for hitting 4 people and fleeing the crime scene. I hate how rich famous people get away with everything. Any normal person gets jailed for many years for this. I hope Garcia knocks him out and teaches him a lesson I hope the fan base show that they are not supporters of him any more because of his hit and run. I used to like Tank but I have a entirely new view of him since I learned about this. I cannot believe he will get away with it and continue boxing.

Unfortunately, that's how the world works, rich and influential people can get away with it.

Anyhow, it's really hard to fathom that, but we might as well stay away from that issue and just again, hope that fight will happen. And probably this is one reason why so many people hate him like Bradley who also wishes that Ryan Garcia will knock him out cold so send him a rude awakening. Yeah, that ankle issue or him in a wheelchair could just be marketing ploy to sway people's opinion on him. But the question is, will it influence us? I don't think so.

PBC has a solid community of boxing worshipping Al Hymen. PBC fan boys are usually the ones paying for Tanks tickets and PPVs inspite of him not fighting for the championship belts. Only the boxing casuals and fan boys are the ones calling Tank a world champion. So any antics Tank is doing these people will believe and ride the hype. Tank is also a million dollar fighter so he won't be scared of those lawsuits. Either he will pay to settle it or make a community service or stay in prison for a few days.

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Quote from: AverageGlabella on February 16, 2023, 05:42:15 PM

How can a fight be made if he has pleased guilty? Any normal person would go to jail for hitting 4 people and fleeing the crime scene. I hate how rich famous people get away with everything. Any normal person gets jailed for many years for this. I hope Garcia knocks him out and teaches him a lesson I hope the fan base show that they are not supporters of him any more because of his hit and run. I used to like Tank but I have a entirely new view of him since I learned about this. I cannot believe he will get away with it and continue boxing.

Unfortunately, that's how the world works, rich and influential people can get away with it.

Anyhow, it's really hard to fathom that, but we might as well stay away from that issue and just again, hope that fight will happen. And probably this is one reason why so many people hate him like Bradley who also wishes that Ryan Garcia will knock him out cold so send him a rude awakening. Yeah, that ankle issue or him in a wheelchair could just be marketing ploy to sway people's opinion on him. But the question is, will it influence us? I don't think so.

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Quote from: AverageGlabella on February 16, 2023, 05:42:15 PM

How can a fight be made if he has pleased guilty? Any normal person would go to jail for hitting 4 people and fleeing the crime scene. I hate how rich famous people get away with everything. Any normal person gets jailed for many years for this. I hope Garcia knocks him out and teaches him a lesson I hope the fan base show that they are not supporters of him any more because of his hit and run. I used to like Tank but I have a entirely new view of him since I learned about this. I cannot believe he will get away with it and continue boxing.

I understand your frustrations mate but it's better for you to relax and wait for the judge's decision about that matter because even if we despite Tank Davis for what he did, his personal life is different from what he attained inside the ring as entertainment is different. Let's just not mix things up because that is already biased as you also hoped that Garcia will defeat him because of that reason, you know, we all have our different sins in life which we need to atone and that doesn't give us the right to judge.

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Quote from: AverageGlabella on February 16, 2023, 05:42:15 PM

How can a fight be made if he has pleased guilty? Any normal person would go to jail for hitting 4 people and fleeing the crime scene. I hate how rich famous people get away with everything. Any normal person gets jailed for many years for this. I hope Garcia knocks him out and teaches him a lesson I hope the fan base show that they are not supporters of him any more because of his hit and run. I used to like Tank but I have a entirely new view of him since I learned about this. I cannot believe he will get away with it and continue boxing.

If the verdict of being guilty is announced after the fight, then the fight will commence but if it is before that then there will be no fight happening at all. I think the title will be vacated and Ryan Garcia and whoever is deemed worthy to be his opponent for the vacant title will fight for it.

The fight had been taled for so long now and yet we are still unsure if both camp had signed the contract. The last thing I knew the contract is on Ryan Garcia's camp and is yet to sign it or does he already?

About Davis on a wheelchair, I think it is a marketing ploy or getting people's sentiments. I don't know where he need that sentiment but I feel that is the reason why Davis appears sitting in a wheel chair.

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Davis is a beast; according to record reports and prior confirmations, he's won 28 times and outta them, are provably 26 knockout wins - C'monnnn, that alone is a record that shoulda thwarted Garcia's effort on being too hopeful for a win innit...lmao
You Know how things changes atimes in the ring; when the Least expected person takes the lead on the scoreboard?? And moves ahead with the title at the end?? Hehe... That wasn't the case though and has never been for Davis.
About being jailed; he isn't commiting a silly crime like that for the first time, is he?? Remember he was jailed for domestic violence act on his girlfriend, even though he denied his actions.

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How can a fight be made if he has pleased guilty? Any normal person would go to jail for hitting 4 people and fleeing the crime scene. I hate how rich famous people get away with everything. Any normal person gets jailed for many years for this. I hope Garcia knocks him out and teaches him a lesson I hope the fan base show that they are not supporters of him any more because of his hit and run. I used to like Tank but I have a entirely new view of him since I learned about this. I cannot believe he will get away with it and continue boxing.

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Quote from: OgNasty on February 16, 2023, 04:30:32 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on February 16, 2023, 03:49:39 PM

Ok, so he pleaded guilty on 4 counts and the next hearing is May 5. So one obstacle has been hurdled already, so hopefully then can go back to the negotiation table again and talk about the rematch clause and what not so that the deal can be sign by both parties and then announced the fight officially.

https://www.boxingscene.com/gervonta-davis-pleads-guilty-hit-run-case-baltimore-sentencing-set-5--172521

Everyone is still at the fence for this fight as we all thought that everything is smooth between two camps. So again, we will have to wait in the next couple of weeks, its already 2nd week of February, + 8 weeks or training or more for this two. Time is not on their side, they have to decide whether to make it April or before the next hearing of Davis.

I don't know... Hit and run on a pregnant lady... I think the only way he makes this fight is if he gets the case pushed back until after the fight. I don't see any way he doesn't do some serious jailtime for this and when a high level fighter is subjected to jailhouse treatment for any period of time it usually doesn't end in good results for them. You don't have to look further than Mike Tyson to know that. It seems like Davis has been getting himself into a great deal of trouble lately and I think this could very well signal the end of his career as a fighter. This Ryan Garcia fight, if it takes place, will likely be the climax of his story.

Tyson case though is very different as it was a rape against a 18 year old, I'm not that well versed on criminal law but I guess it's more serious that Davis is facing, and that time everyone is really after Mike Tyson's money.

But I would agree though that this young black american like Davis, who has the fame and money still getting themselves in bad situation and troubles and maybe they are circling themselves with bad people and influence, like Ja Morant of basketball. But I'm still hoping that this fight is going to happen at the second half of the year.

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Quote from: OgNasty on February 16, 2023, 04:30:32 PM

This Ryan Garcia fight, if it takes place, will likely be the climax of his story.

Oh wow, this could be another Mike Tyson in the making. Don't know how the judiciary system works in the US but with the things I saw, Davis can face jail time after that May 5 sentencing. I think they should push through with their plan to fight Ryan Garcia on April 15 as jail time could really affect his career. Per report, contract finalization is imminent so we will just wait for it now.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 16, 2023, 03:49:39 PM

Ok, so he pleaded guilty on 4 counts and the next hearing is May 5. So one obstacle has been hurdled already, so hopefully then can go back to the negotiation table again and talk about the rematch clause and what not so that the deal can be sign by both parties and then announced the fight officially.

https://www.boxingscene.com/gervonta-davis-pleads-guilty-hit-run-case-baltimore-sentencing-set-5--172521

Everyone is still at the fence for this fight as we all thought that everything is smooth between two camps. So again, we will have to wait in the next couple of weeks, its already 2nd week of February, + 8 weeks or training or more for this two. Time is not on their side, they have to decide whether to make it April or before the next hearing of Davis.

I don't know... Hit and run on a pregnant lady... I think the only way he makes this fight is if he gets the case pushed back until after the fight. I don't see any way he doesn't do some serious jailtime for this and when a high level fighter is subjected to jailhouse treatment for any period of time it usually doesn't end in good results for them. You don't have to look further than Mike Tyson to know that. It seems like Davis has been getting himself into a great deal of trouble lately and I think this could very well signal the end of his career as a fighter. This Ryan Garcia fight, if it takes place, will likely be the climax of his story.

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Ok, so he pleaded guilty on 4 counts and the next hearing is May 5. So one obstacle has been hurdled already, so hopefully then can go back to the negotiation table again and talk about the rematch clause and what not so that the deal can be sign by both parties and then announced the fight officially.

https://www.boxingscene.com/gervonta-davis-pleads-guilty-hit-run-case-baltimore-sentencing-set-5--172521

Everyone is still at the fence for this fight as we all thought that everything is smooth between two camps. So again, we will have to wait in the next couple of weeks, its already 2nd week of February, + 8 weeks or training or more for this two. Time is not on their side, they have to decide whether to make it April or before the next hearing of Davis.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on February 16, 2023, 08:39:05 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on February 15, 2023, 04:58:33 PM

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^^ Tank will have to go to a another court hearing if I'm not mistaken about another case on his, hit and run. And I think this is one issue that both sides have been looking ever since they want to have this fight because it's out of their control. We don't know what will be the judges decision.

The court hearing of that hit and run charges will be today, February 16, 2023, and his destiny fights with Ryan Garcia relies on the outcome of that hearing as he could face a jail term of up to seven years if proven guilty, that would ruin his boxing career not just the Ryan Garcia fight.

Ok, I try to look for sources or at least what is the outcome of the court hearing, so far I can't find any.

Here's about Tank Davis's court hearing outcome:

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 15, 2023, 04:58:33 PM

Last time I've checked, the contract for this fight is not yet final so maybe next week we could see progress and a definite schedule once Tank Davis will be cleared on the court from these 14 charges of hit and run.

But they also try us to believed initially that the fight has been signed already. And then later, there is issues with rematch clause and who is going to handle it. There is no mentioned of this court hearing but I believed this is the biggest factor why their is no contract in the first place. That's a lot of charges, and we don't know how he can clear all that charges.

Considering that Tank Davis's next trial for sentencing is scheduled in May 5th, we may have a news about their fight in the next couple of days confirming about the issues that are blocking the fight including the rematch clause misunderstanding. Let's just wait for it because I know they will be now forced to make the fight happen in April because it's either a delay or no fight at all because Davis's sentencing result is not yet guaranteed.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 15, 2023, 04:58:33 PM

Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on February 15, 2023, 03:59:38 PM

^^ Tank will have to go to a another court hearing if I'm not mistaken about another case on his, hit and run. And I think this is one issue that both sides have been looking ever since they want to have this fight because it's out of their control. We don't know what will be the judges decision.

The court hearing of that hit and run charges will be today, February 16, 2023, and his destiny fights with Ryan Garcia relies on the outcome of that hearing as he could face a jail term of up to seven years if proven guilty, that would ruin his boxing career not just the Ryan Garcia fight.

Ok, I try to look for sources or at least what is the outcome of the court hearing, so far I can't find any.

Quote from: bisdak40 on February 15, 2023, 04:58:33 PM

Last time I've checked, the contract for this fight is not yet final so maybe next week we could see progress and a definite schedule once Tank Davis will be cleared on the court from these 14 charges of hit and run.

But they also try us to believed initially that the fight has been signed already. And then later, there is issues with rematch clause and who is going to handle it. There is no mentioned of this court hearing but I believed this is the biggest factor why their is no contract in the first place. That's a lot of charges, and we don't know how he can clear all that charges.

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