[Boxing] Tank Davis vs. Ryan Garcia betting and discussion (May, 2023) - page 26.

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Quote from: Baofeng on March 05, 2023, 04:16:58 PM

In the beginning there were 3 venues considered for this fight, and then it was cut to 2 when they say that it will be in Vegas, so it's either

a. T-Mobile Arena - 22,000 sitting capacity
b. MGM Grand Garden Arena - 17,000 sitting capacity

So base on that numbers alone, I wouldn't be surprised if T-Mobile will be their obvious choice.

But we will have to see on the press conference.

It will be a disgrace if they pick the MGM arena over T-Mobiles I think MGM has less atmosphere and the ticket prices are as expensive as the T mobiles. I want as many fans as possible and I am disappointed that they are fighting in vegas I think it would be better to go to bigger venues in other states. I do not know why vegas is always picked for big events is it because the commission is less strict?

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The venue is still TBA, I'm thinking that organizers will first feel the people's response towards their tickets on the first few days of selling it so that they could tell which place is more suitable to cater a large crowd. After that, the place will be finalized and as well as the PPV price.

They know they can sell out the biggest stadium but booking a stadium takes time and they are probably thinking about how much they can charge and fill it out. This is a big fight and if it finally gets made then a lot of people are going to be willing to pay above average ticket prices and the boxing promoters know it. I wonder if they will go for a larger venue and keep prices down or if they go for a smaller venue and charge a huge fee for the tickets which would stop a lot of purists from attending. I hope they go for the bigger venue because there will be more atmosphere too.

I agree, they know that they can sell the tickets in any stadium with this kind of magnitude. Everyone wanted to see this fight and even if the price is too expensive, many are still going to buy it anyways.

And if I'm not mistaken, there are two venue they have in mind for this fight in Las Vegas. And it makes that they are going to make it for the gamblers to come in and spend their money.

Yes, that is why they are taking their time to finalize everything including the place where the fight will happen because they know that this is a mega fight and anyone will surely come and see these two stars dancing in one ring and proving who's the greater between them.

As of now, they are still waiting for the crowd's response after the 2-day press conference as that's where they will commence the selling of tickets.

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In the beginning there were 3 venues considered for this fight, and then it was cut to 2 when they say that it will be in Vegas, so it's either

a. T-Mobile Arena - 22,000 sitting capacity
b. MGM Grand Garden Arena - 17,000 sitting capacity

So base on that numbers alone, I wouldn't be surprised if T-Mobile will be their obvious choice.

But we will have to see on the press conference.

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Quote from: btc_angela on March 04, 2023, 07:28:18 PM

^ Yeah, it's going to be full of *bleep* and *bleep* in this press conference. Both are huge trash talkers and we know that when to fighters like to bad mouth against each other, it's hard to stop.

Did the venue though has been announced yet?

I now they are targeting Las Vegas for this fight and there are 2 venues vying for that slot and I might have missed the official place of this fight, just saying.

I think that this press conference is very interesting. Right before their hand do the boxing, this press conference will make their mouth to do the boxing for them. I agree, since there are lots of hates between this two, we might hear a lot of trash talks and censored lines as they talk to each other.

This press conference can heat up the fight and might probably produce more audiences that is interested on the possible result of their fight and wanted to witness it live.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on March 05, 2023, 04:03:49 PM

I agree, they know that they can sell the tickets in any stadium with this kind of magnitude. Everyone wanted to see this fight and even if the price is too expensive, many are still going to buy it anyways.

And if I'm not mistaken, there are two venue they have in mind for this fight in Las Vegas. And it makes that they are going to make it for the gamblers to come in and spend their money.

They cannot charge huge amounts but I think boxing has changed the purists are not attending fights any more because of the rising ticket costs. I prefer when they go for bigger venues because the atmosphere is better but because more real fans can attend and not just rich people because they are usually better priced because there is more space. The less space in venues the more competitive to get tickets and the more they can charge. It would be a shame if they put Garcia vs Tank in a small venue and price out real boxing fans because I think this fight will go down in boxing history.

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Quote from: AverageGlabella on March 05, 2023, 03:58:18 PM

Quote from: Natalim on March 05, 2023, 03:50:50 PM

The venue is still TBA, I'm thinking that organizers will first feel the people's response towards their tickets on the first few days of selling it so that they could tell which place is more suitable to cater a large crowd. After that, the place will be finalized and as well as the PPV price.

They know they can sell out the biggest stadium but booking a stadium takes time and they are probably thinking about how much they can charge and fill it out. This is a big fight and if it finally gets made then a lot of people are going to be willing to pay above average ticket prices and the boxing promoters know it. I wonder if they will go for a larger venue and keep prices down or if they go for a smaller venue and charge a huge fee for the tickets which would stop a lot of purists from attending. I hope they go for the bigger venue because there will be more atmosphere too.

I agree, they know that they can sell the tickets in any stadium with this kind of magnitude. Everyone wanted to see this fight and even if the price is too expensive, many are still going to buy it anyways.

And if I'm not mistaken, there are two venue they have in mind for this fight in Las Vegas. And it makes that they are going to make it for the gamblers to come in and spend their money.

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Quote from: Natalim on March 05, 2023, 03:50:50 PM

The venue is still TBA, I'm thinking that organizers will first feel the people's response towards their tickets on the first few days of selling it so that they could tell which place is more suitable to cater a large crowd. After that, the place will be finalized and as well as the PPV price.

They know they can sell out the biggest stadium but booking a stadium takes time and they are probably thinking about how much they can charge and fill it out. This is a big fight and if it finally gets made then a lot of people are going to be willing to pay above average ticket prices and the boxing promoters know it. I wonder if they will go for a larger venue and keep prices down or if they go for a smaller venue and charge a huge fee for the tickets which would stop a lot of purists from attending. I hope they go for the bigger venue because there will be more atmosphere too.

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Quote from: btc_angela on March 04, 2023, 07:28:18 PM

^ Yeah, it's going to be full of *bleep* and *bleep* in this press conference. Both are huge trash talkers and we know that when to fighters like to bad mouth against each other, it's hard to stop.

Did the venue though has been announced yet?

I now they are targeting Las Vegas for this fight and there are 2 venues vying for that slot and I might have missed the official place of this fight, just saying.

Yes, that is expected mate but that will be fun to see because this fight is a bit personal for them both. They've been dancing back and forth on the internet for some years now and fortunately, it's happening and will take place in April 22 at Las Vegas, Nevada.

The venue is still TBA, I'm thinking that organizers will first feel the people's response towards their tickets on the first few days of selling it so that they could tell which place is more suitable to cater a large crowd. After that, the place will be finalized and as well as the PPV price.

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^ Yeah, it's going to be full of *bleep* and *bleep* in this press conference. Both are huge trash talkers and we know that when to fighters like to bad mouth against each other, it's hard to stop.

Did the venue though has been announced yet?

I now they are targeting Las Vegas for this fight and there are 2 venues vying for that slot and I might have missed the official place of this fight, just saying.

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Ok as per Tank Davis, there will be a press conference, maybe to announce this fight,

https://twitter.com/Gervontaa/status/1632105626188009472

And after that, the tickets will be on sale, and then we will find out if it could be sell out in the next couple of hours since there is a big hype on this fight. It this happens, then big money is on the table for this two.

Gonna be fun to see this two throwing words and trash talking, hehehehe.

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Quote from: freedomgo on March 02, 2023, 02:38:00 PM

GBP doesn't have any luxury to reject Al Haymon's deal because we all know what will happen to a bout if there are some pages won't get Al Haymon's approval. Aside from that, they are the A-side because it's Tank Davis who got the belt even though it's not a regular one. So, I guess this fight will happen no matter what because everything is approved including the rematch clause.

Yes, we already heard enough about this Al Haymon and what he could do if something wasn't right in his eyes and it is much better for Oscar Dela Hoya to agree with the terms of the deal rather than making the fight hard to happen especially this time that Tank might get a delay on his future fights as his case will be decided somewhere in the month of May.

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Yes, let's just wait if we can watch this fight without having to pay huge price, hehehe. Much better if we can used that money to bet and try to get to watch it for free from some streaming services or those who are willing to share it in social media like Facebook.

That's true. I'm sure we can find one, but we have to be prepared for a possible interruption. If it's detected, the streaming will be stopped, and then we can still look for another streamer. I have no idea how much the cost of PPV is, but if it's over $50, then I think it's too high. We can instead use that amount to bet.

Should be higher than that, probably at least $100 because the PPV price of Davis vs Hector Garcia was $74.99.
reference : https://www.billboard.com/culture/product-recommendations/gervonta-davis-vs-louis-garcia-how-to-stream-the-ppv-boxing-match-online-1235195435/

If we really want to enjoy that fight with no interruption, we need to buy PPV, as it will surely give us the experience we want. This might be the only fight between these two if there's no rematch clause, so let's not waste this opportunity if we can afford to pay.

If there's no rematch clause then you are right, paying for PPV to truly enjoy the fight is one of the best options, if you are also into
gambling placing decent amount of bet to cover the fee might add up to the risk.

Not sure if I will take that route, as I don't know if the drama can be brought inside the ring, or all those trash talks are all for the benefits of ticket sales.

Let see if how fans will support them and how bettors will place bets for each fighter.

Speaking of whether this bout do have a rematch clause or not:

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A dispute over the rematch clause had threatened to derail the fight, but that issue was resolved earlier this month after PBC agreed that Golden Boy would serve as the lead promoter for a second bout if Garcia wins.

Only Davis can exercise the rematch clause in the event he loses, per sources.

https://www.espn.com.au/boxing/story/_/id/35728299/gervonta-davis-ryan-garcia-bout-finalized-date-pushed-back

Well, PBC didn't fail to always surprise me as long as in every fight they have a boxer participating. In this case, it says above that only Gervonta Davis can exercise that said clause if in-case he will get defeated against Ryan Garcia while GBP will take over from organizing the 2nd bout. But if Ryan will get defeated, I guess it will be a bye-bye because for Tank and PBC, Ryan Garcia is a finished chapter.

Yes, pretty much that will be the story line, if Davis losses this fight, he has 30 days to exercised the right for a rematch. That's usually rematch clauses works and Ryan doesn't have right to call for a rematch even if it is so close until Tank Davis says so.

And obviously that is their contention and it seems that GBP has given that clause to Davis camp. So everything is base on Ryan, on whether he is going to defeat Davis and then activating the rematch clause.

GBP doesn't have any luxury to reject Al Haymon's deal because we all know what will happen to a bout if there are some pages won't get Al Haymon's approval. Aside from that, they are the A-side because it's Tank Davis who got the belt even though it's not a regular one. So, I guess this fight will happen no matter what because everything is approved including the rematch clause.

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I think though that if ever Floyd will have to unwind his career fighting, then most likely he will be a promoter as he has TMT as his company. He has the likes of Davis and to the beginning of Broner's career, they are close as hell. But when Broner started to lose and then his career goes to a steep downfall, Floyd separated with him. And then took Davis under his wing and made him millions but it's time for Davis to move up. So as genuis as Floyd is, he might be looking for another career after his boxing is done.

That's why his upcoming fight against Garcia is his chance to be more known and to gather more popularity and with that, Garcia is in trouble here because Davis will surely train to improve and to successfully beat him. He is already strong and surely when they face inside the ring, he will be stronger because this win meant a lot to him. Garcia was always trash-talking him to get into this fight and now that they are scheduled to fight against each other, we will gonna see a different upgraded version of Davis. Ryan Garcia is also not that weak but everyone expected him to be the underdog in this fight youngster like him has lots of room for improvement, and maybe he will gonna learn some skills to surprise Davis and giving him hard time with that.

I think both of them, we will see an upgraded version, or maybe there is a improvement on this fight. Both will be cautious though specially in the beginning of the fight, Davis is known to be like that as he wants to test his opponents first and see what it can bring.

As opposed to Garcia though, and in my own opinion is a fast starter as he wants to knockout his opponent early or set the tempo with his left hook. So we will se which style will play in the end and who has the resiliency.

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Quote from: btc_angela on March 02, 2023, 02:04:58 AM

I think though that if ever Floyd will have to unwind his career fighting, then most likely he will be a promoter as he has TMT as his company. He has the likes of Davis and to the beginning of Broner's career, they are close as hell. But when Broner started to lose and then his career goes to a steep downfall, Floyd separated with him. And then took Davis under his wing and made him millions but it's time for Davis to move up. So as genuis as Floyd is, he might be looking for another career after his boxing is done.

That's why his upcoming fight against Garcia is his chance to be more known and to gather more popularity and with that, Garcia is in trouble here because Davis will surely train to improve and to successfully beat him. He is already strong and surely when they face inside the ring, he will be stronger because this win meant a lot to him. Garcia was always trash-talking him to get into this fight and now that they are scheduled to fight against each other, we will gonna see a different upgraded version of Davis. Ryan Garcia is also not that weak but everyone expected him to be the underdog in this fight youngster like him has lots of room for improvement, and maybe he will gonna learn some skills to surprise Davis and giving him hard time with that.

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Quote from: Jating on March 02, 2023, 06:37:14 AM

^^ Yes, that's what the rematch says, it's up to Davis to activate it within 30 days after their initial fight. So all rematch is still on his hands, and obviously a win by him we, will not see any rematch as all.

As for the date, crypto sport bookies can just adjust it, at least their handicappers are again on point on putting Davis as the favorite in this fight. Even though both are undefeated and 0 loss, they think that Davis will have the advantage base on his resume alone.

Therefore, Ryan Garcia needs to win this fight if he wants to have that rematch. A win here will make him the favorite in a rematch, and it should not be a problem for him, especially if he wins in a convincing manner. Ryan Garcia is surely looking for a big break in his career, and that will only happen if he beats a real champion, which will be in front of him come fight night.

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^^ Yes, that's what the rematch says, it's up to Davis to activate it within 30 days after their initial fight. So all rematch is still on his hands, and obviously a win by him we, will not see any rematch as all.

As for the date, crypto sport bookies can just adjust it, at least their handicappers are again on point on putting Davis as the favorite in this fight. Even though both are undefeated and 0 loss, they think that Davis will have the advantage base on his resume alone.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on March 02, 2023, 04:39:17 AM

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Anyway, I am still on Tank Davis' side here and I sure will bet for him.

Everyone will be betting on Tank Davis since he is a heavy favorite here. But is it okay with you to win based on the betting odds? If the answer is yes, then there's no problem with betting.

As we can see here ; https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/davis-vs-garcia-odds/

You need to bet 195 usd to win 100 usd if you side on Davis. in short he is -195 favorite.

The lines are open at Stake.com com now.

Intriguing, it is posted as April 16 (15 if Easter Time Saturday night) while Davis tweeted April 22. I guess the date set in our favorite bookies is not yet updated because of recent changes.
But I am also waiting for the other lines like KO-TKO in different rounds, I think I will focus there more as they may become a one-clean hit knockout if ever a chance arrives for both fighters.
Most of the time the bookies give x3 - x5 of profits for the right prediction on where the knockout will happen.

So the deal is, if Davis wins then he is not obliged for a rematch, and if he losses, Garcia will have to fight him again. Correct me if I am wrong.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on March 01, 2023, 11:35:55 PM

Anyway, I am still on Tank Davis' side here and I sure will bet for him.

Everyone will be betting on Tank Davis since he is a heavy favorite here. But is it okay with you to win based on the betting odds? If the answer is yes, then there's no problem with betting.

As we can see here ; https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/davis-vs-garcia-odds/

You need to bet 195 usd to win 100 usd if you side on Davis. in short he is -195 favorite.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on March 01, 2023, 08:09:28 PM

Boxing now is business, and so there is the ego of most boxers as well, it's a combat sports so what do you expect for this fighters? Specially in an era wherein we are in the social media and so boxers like Ryan loves to express themselves out and let everyone know through their official social media accounts.

But what's important is that they have hurdled everything including the rematch clause.

So yes, let's see if Ryan can have that rematch or Davis winning the first fight is enough for the fans not to clamor a second fight.

Yeah, they saw how effective the exhibition matches are when it comes to pulling more viewers, and now they are using the same strategy by keeping all the details first and letting it explode somewhere near the match will happen. More dramas first, two boxers fighting in social media before they use their fist in the ring. It's just like marinating the meat first. Somehow, it's working. They obviously want the fans to be involved first before they make the decision to let the news out.
Anyway, I am still on Tank Davis' side here and I sure will bet for him.

As far as I know though, this has been in the making for many years, 2 years ago, Ryan shows in Mike Tyson podcast and they call out Tank Davis and I think this is the start of the war of words between this two so the point that Ryan took this as a personal crusade for him.

And when we thought that this fight is not going to happen because of Davis case and the rematch clause and what not, unless Ryan has settled it everything even though is he is the short end of the bargaining of the rematch.

The good thing is that it's going to happen this year. Forget about the past and thanks to Ryan Garcia's constant challenge to Tank Davis, he finally has a chance to fight him. He should not worry about whatever rematch clause is in the contract - what he needs to do now is work hard to ensure a win, and everything else will certainly follow.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on March 01, 2023, 11:35:55 PM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on March 01, 2023, 08:09:28 PM

Boxing now is business, and so there is the ego of most boxers as well, it's a combat sports so what do you expect for this fighters? Specially in an era wherein we are in the social media and so boxers like Ryan loves to express themselves out and let everyone know through their official social media accounts.

But what's important is that they have hurdled everything including the rematch clause.

So yes, let's see if Ryan can have that rematch or Davis winning the first fight is enough for the fans not to clamor a second fight.

Yeah, they saw how effective the exhibition matches are when it comes to pulling more viewers, and now they are using the same strategy by keeping all the details first and letting it explode somewhere near the match will happen. More dramas first, two boxers fighting in social media before they use their fist in the ring. It's just like marinating the meat first. Somehow, it's working. They obviously want the fans to be involved first before they make the decision to let the news out.
Anyway, I am still on Tank Davis' side here and I sure will bet for him.

As far as I know though, this has been in the making for many years, 2 years ago, Ryan shows in Mike Tyson podcast and they call out Tank Davis and I think this is the start of the war of words between this two so the point that Ryan took this as a personal crusade for him.

And when we thought that this fight is not going to happen because of Davis case and the rematch clause and what not, unless Ryan has settled it everything even though is he is the short end of the bargaining of the rematch.

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