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January 23, 2022, 03:40:54 PM
Everyone is on Thurman to win, I wonder how much money the bookies would make if the result will be the opposite. Most of us know Thurman because he fought Pacman, so probably we are underestimating his opponent who is younger than him and also only has one loss in his career.
What the bookies do in the case there is a very heavy favorite is to begin to offer huge odds for the other party so people feel more compelled to make a bet for them, however this can play against them as it was in the case of the first Ruiz vs Joshua fight in which Ruiz won and the casinos lost a lot of money as they were giving him huge odds, however most of the time this is not what happens, so even if they have an event in which they lose money they can easily recover it with the rest of the events they offer to their customers.
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January 23, 2022, 03:40:44 PM
^^ No doubt that Barrios believes in himself that he can beat Thurman, that's why he chooses Keith to be his next fight in his first attempt at 147 lbs. And he should be really preparing hard because he knows that this is a very difficult fight for him. And upsets can happen in boxing, as we can see recently, Magsayo beat the reigning champion in 126 lbs in Russell via a decision. So we will see if he has what it takes to pull another upset for this year.
That was a good win by Magsayo, and yes I believe in upset as I bet on Magsayo on that fight with Rusell. well, in this fight, I'm with the favorite here as I'm a fan of Thurman and I believe he can teach Barrios a lesson on how to be clever in boxing. This is going to be his come back fight, I'm sure Thurman would also not gonna take this fight lightly.
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January 23, 2022, 02:45:37 PM

Thurman has the tools to beat Barrios, no question about it, that's why majority of us here is favouring Thurman to win. But what makes this fight interesting is the whole statement of Thurman that this could serve as a title eliminator and winner takes the winner of Spence vs Ugas. So for sure, many are hype and going to watch and see how Thurman is, if he still has the power to become a champion again.
when compared to Barrios, of course, it will still be very superior to Thurman in terms of technique, speed and strength.
but even so that doesn't mean we can ignore barrios for granted.
he has a strong desire in this and I have never doubted his determination to fight.
the winner will still be Thurman's but Barrios will definitely put up a pretty good fight
That's definitely what we like to see, a good fight will turn people's attention to this fight. Although it's not a championship fight, showing a great fight is necessary as the winner here will always be up for a bigger fight or a shot for a championship fight if possible.

Thurman is my choice as well, and I have a feeling that he will win convincingly, whether through stoppage or through judges scorecards.
absolutely true, indirectly this match can bridge to a higher direction later on the other hand, it is certain that this victory is proof that they are ready for it.
speaking of support, we are on the same side and this would be a great bet to make.
Of course Thurman's advantage will be greater when compared to Barrios
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January 23, 2022, 10:07:41 AM
^^ No doubt that Barrios believes in himself that he can beat Thurman, that's why he chooses Keith to be his next fight in his first attempt at 147 lbs. And he should be really preparing hard because he knows that this is a very difficult fight for him. And upsets can happen in boxing, as we can see recently, Magsayo beat the reigning champion in 126 lbs in Russell via a decision. So we will see if he has what it takes to pull another upset for this year.
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January 23, 2022, 09:18:36 AM

Thurman has the tools to beat Barrios, no question about it, that's why majority of us here is favouring Thurman to win. But what makes this fight interesting is the whole statement of Thurman that this could serve as a title eliminator and winner takes the winner of Spence vs Ugas. So for sure, many are hype and going to watch and see how Thurman is, if he still has the power to become a champion again.
when compared to Barrios, of course, it will still be very superior to Thurman in terms of technique, speed and strength.
but even so that doesn't mean we can ignore barrios for granted.
he has a strong desire in this and I have never doubted his determination to fight.
the winner will still be Thurman's but Barrios will definitely put up a pretty good fight
That's definitely what we like to see, a good fight will turn people's attention to this fight. Although it's not a championship fight, showing a great fight is necessary as the winner here will always be up for a bigger fight or a shot for a championship fight if possible.

Thurman is my choice as well, and I have a feeling that he will win convincingly, whether through stoppage or through judges scorecards.

Everyone is on Thurman to win, I wonder how much money the bookies would make if the result will be the opposite. Most of us know Thurman because he fought Pacman, so probably we are underestimating his opponent who is younger than him and also only has one loss in his career.

Not only the bookies will win, but there are also some bettors who would bet on Barrios as not everyone is convinced that Thurman will win. The more active fighter here is Barriors, and Thurman is coming from a long lay off, so the ring rust might affect his performance.

Barrios has also been consistent in his fights and though others are underestimating him, I have no doubt that he'll do good preparation to beat Thurman in possible ways he knows. It will be challenging for him but I guess it will also be an opportunity to prove himself more.
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January 23, 2022, 07:34:32 AM
Not only the bookies will win, but there are also some bettors who would bet on Barrios as not everyone is convinced that Thurman will win. The more active fighter here is Barriors, and Thurman is coming from a long lay off, so the ring rust might affect his performance.
Bookies will always win but not from the bet of the gamblers as they just only accept bets or a 3rd party to hold our bets and they make money from commissions, they don't bear the risk of being a sports book as they always make money from the juice of the gamblers. Also, they have the edge, so even if you will bet on parlay or whatever style of betting you have, you'll never take advantage on them.
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January 22, 2022, 05:24:22 PM

Thurman has the tools to beat Barrios, no question about it, that's why majority of us here is favouring Thurman to win. But what makes this fight interesting is the whole statement of Thurman that this could serve as a title eliminator and winner takes the winner of Spence vs Ugas. So for sure, many are hype and going to watch and see how Thurman is, if he still has the power to become a champion again.
when compared to Barrios, of course, it will still be very superior to Thurman in terms of technique, speed and strength.
but even so that doesn't mean we can ignore barrios for granted.
he has a strong desire in this and I have never doubted his determination to fight.
the winner will still be Thurman's but Barrios will definitely put up a pretty good fight
That's definitely what we like to see, a good fight will turn people's attention to this fight. Although it's not a championship fight, showing a great fight is necessary as the winner here will always be up for a bigger fight or a shot for a championship fight if possible.

Thurman is my choice as well, and I have a feeling that he will win convincingly, whether through stoppage or through judges scorecards.

Everyone is on Thurman to win, I wonder how much money the bookies would make if the result will be the opposite. Most of us know Thurman because he fought Pacman, so probably we are underestimating his opponent who is younger than him and also only has one loss in his career.

Not only the bookies will win, but there are also some bettors who would bet on Barrios as not everyone is convinced that Thurman will win. The more active fighter here is Barriors, and Thurman is coming from a long lay off, so the ring rust might affect his performance.
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January 22, 2022, 04:26:28 PM

Thurman has the tools to beat Barrios, no question about it, that's why majority of us here is favouring Thurman to win. But what makes this fight interesting is the whole statement of Thurman that this could serve as a title eliminator and winner takes the winner of Spence vs Ugas. So for sure, many are hype and going to watch and see how Thurman is, if he still has the power to become a champion again.
when compared to Barrios, of course, it will still be very superior to Thurman in terms of technique, speed and strength.
but even so that doesn't mean we can ignore barrios for granted.
he has a strong desire in this and I have never doubted his determination to fight.
the winner will still be Thurman's but Barrios will definitely put up a pretty good fight
That's definitely what we like to see, a good fight will turn people's attention to this fight. Although it's not a championship fight, showing a great fight is necessary as the winner here will always be up for a bigger fight or a shot for a championship fight if possible.

Thurman is my choice as well, and I have a feeling that he will win convincingly, whether through stoppage or through judges scorecards.

Everyone is on Thurman to win, I wonder how much money the bookies would make if the result will be the opposite. Most of us know Thurman because he fought Pacman, so probably we are underestimating his opponent who is younger than him and also only has one loss in his career.
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January 22, 2022, 04:14:29 PM

Thurman has the tools to beat Barrios, no question about it, that's why majority of us here is favouring Thurman to win. But what makes this fight interesting is the whole statement of Thurman that this could serve as a title eliminator and winner takes the winner of Spence vs Ugas. So for sure, many are hype and going to watch and see how Thurman is, if he still has the power to become a champion again.
when compared to Barrios, of course, it will still be very superior to Thurman in terms of technique, speed and strength.
but even so that doesn't mean we can ignore barrios for granted.
he has a strong desire in this and I have never doubted his determination to fight.
the winner will still be Thurman's but Barrios will definitely put up a pretty good fight
That's definitely what we like to see, a good fight will turn people's attention to this fight. Although it's not a championship fight, showing a great fight is necessary as the winner here will always be up for a bigger fight or a shot for a championship fight if possible.

Thurman is my choice as well, and I have a feeling that he will win convincingly, whether through stoppage or through judges scorecards.
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January 22, 2022, 01:07:33 PM

Thurman has the tools to beat Barrios, no question about it, that's why majority of us here is favouring Thurman to win. But what makes this fight interesting is the whole statement of Thurman that this could serve as a title eliminator and winner takes the winner of Spence vs Ugas. So for sure, many are hype and going to watch and see how Thurman is, if he still has the power to become a champion again.
when compared to Barrios, of course, it will still be very superior to Thurman in terms of technique, speed and strength.
but even so that doesn't mean we can ignore barrios for granted.
he has a strong desire in this and I have never doubted his determination to fight.
the winner will still be Thurman's but Barrios will definitely put up a pretty good fight
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January 22, 2022, 01:02:56 PM
However, it's time for redemption, he will be coming back not only as a challenger but the main goal is to become a champion, and it wills stay with beating Barrios.

The fight between Thurman and Barrios is not a title match.

But with Thurman winning the fight, we can expect that's one step in building his name again. If successfully win, he can consider challenging again those top names on the rank. I'm sure he can handle Barrios here as the excitement and interest to return to the ring for him is really high.

Barrios is not an easy opponent but I honestly don't see him winning against Thurman.

I know it's not a championship fight, but whoever wins this fight will have a chance to fight a champion, and I am with you on your prediction that Thurman will win here. Thurman may not be as active as Crawford, but I think if he would challenge Crawford and the champion agrees, it will be a hell of a fight and I'm not sure if Crawford will dominate.
That would be an amazing fight if ever Crawford's camp agree instead of fighting the winner between Spence Jr and Ugas, we are looking on the future but eventually it may happen in case that Crawford will choose Thurman after he accomplished his fight against Barrios, for now, to step forward Thurman needs to win a convincing KO or a huge margin from the scorecard.

It will hype him up, but if controversy happened, if Barrios snatches this one from him, the chance to regain his glory might be over.

We never know until it happens.. Roll Eyes Wink
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January 22, 2022, 09:22:43 AM
However, it's time for redemption, he will be coming back not only as a challenger but the main goal is to become a champion, and it wills stay with beating Barrios.

The fight between Thurman and Barrios is not a title match.

But with Thurman winning the fight, we can expect that's one step in building his name again. If successfully win, he can consider challenging again those top names on the rank. I'm sure he can handle Barrios here as the excitement and interest to return to the ring for him is really high.

Barrios is not an easy opponent but I honestly don't see him winning against Thurman.

I know it's not a championship fight, but whoever wins this fight will have a chance to fight a champion, and I am with you on your prediction that Thurman will win here. Thurman may not be as active as Crawford, but I think if he would challenge Crawford and the champion agrees, it will be a hell of a fight and I'm not sure if Crawford will dominate.
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January 22, 2022, 05:04:37 AM
Yes, this will be Thurman's stepping stone to make a come back and put his name in the mix again. Several years ago, he was the champion and considered to be the best welterweight until he gets injured and the landscape has change.

If ever he wins on that match against Barios, he needs another stepping stone on his next fight.

He can't just go directly against Spence Jr, Ugas, or Crawford.

Maybe he can ask for a rematch with Danny Garcia or Shawn Porter. But before we discussed that, let's wait first on the result of this match. I doubt we are expecting the usual Thurman here before he fought Pacquiao. Let's not expect that for a boxer that is not active for long.
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January 22, 2022, 04:01:23 AM
     
Keith Thurman shouldn’t be on PPV against Mario Barrios

What can you say about these guys?

There are speculations that PPV buys won't that much that's why for Thurman to regain again his popularity, it should be aired on regular FOX, not with PPV. The cost of PPV is about $74 and providing Thurman didn't fight for almost 3 years, there are doubts if there will be more people that will watch the fight.

I like what the article is pointing out and that makes sense. Please read.
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January 22, 2022, 02:59:39 AM
However, it's time for redemption, he will be coming back not only as a challenger but the main goal is to become a champion, and it wills stay with beating Barrios.

The fight between Thurman and Barrios is not a title match.

But with Thurman winning the fight, we can expect that's one step in building his name again. If successfully win, he can consider challenging again those top names on the rank. I'm sure he can handle Barrios here as the excitement and interest to return to the ring for him is really high.

Barrios is not an easy opponent but I honestly don't see him winning against Thurman.

Yes, this will be Thurman's stepping stone to make a come back and put his name in the mix again. Several years ago, he was the champion and considered to be the best welterweight until he gets injured and the landscape has change.

And with a big lost against Manny, his dreams and ambitions have been derailed. But it seems his interest has return again and wanted to reclaim his name and become a champion again. So a win against Barrios will be his first step and then he can talk about Spence and Crawford next.
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January 22, 2022, 01:55:53 AM
However, it's time for redemption, he will be coming back not only as a challenger but the main goal is to become a champion, and it wills stay with beating Barrios.

The fight between Thurman and Barrios is not a title match.

But with Thurman winning the fight, we can expect that's one step in building his name again. If successfully win, he can consider challenging again those top names on the rank. I'm sure he can handle Barrios here as the excitement and interest to return to the ring for him is really high.

Barrios is not an easy opponent but I honestly don't see him winning against Thurman.
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January 21, 2022, 04:45:33 PM
His last fight is against Pacquiao and he lost, this time, I think he can win since Barrios has already passed his prime. I'm hoping that this is a big preparation fight for Thurman vs Crawford because we already have Ugas vs Spence Jr.

Great news for the boxing community.

I think Thurman would win in this fight too because he has an age advantage over Barrios which could be his edge over their upcoming fight. The fight is just a few weeks from now and he could definitely bag the title and belt if and only if he really trained well and he tried to learn the ways of Barrios in fighting such as predicting his opponent's next move strike of punch, defense, footwork, and speed. Although I would not like to discredit and invalidate the skills of a professional who is known to be in boxing for a long time already considering his age. Surely this would still be a challenge for Thurman before he will be able to achieve his goal - to win. Hopefully, they would give us an exciting and thrilling performance inside the arena. The announced date is on February 5, so for those fans of both players, be ready to witness their battle and may the best boxer really win.
Thurman has the tools to beat Barrios, no question about it, that's why majority of us here is favouring Thurman to win. But what makes this fight interesting is the whole statement of Thurman that this could serve as a title eliminator and winner takes the winner of Spence vs Ugas. So for sure, many are hype and going to watch and see how Thurman is, if he still has the power to become a champion again.
I'm sure he still has the power, he always backs his words just like his fight with Pacman. He talks trashed a lot but he performs really well in the ring, it's just unfortunate for him that he lose in that fight. However, it's time for redemption, he will be coming back not only as a challenger but the main goal is to become a champion, and it wills stay with beating Barrios.
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January 21, 2022, 06:09:23 AM
His last fight is against Pacquiao and he lost, this time, I think he can win since Barrios has already passed his prime. I'm hoping that this is a big preparation fight for Thurman vs Crawford because we already have Ugas vs Spence Jr.

Great news for the boxing community.

I think Thurman would win in this fight too because he has an age advantage over Barrios which could be his edge over their upcoming fight. The fight is just a few weeks from now and he could definitely bag the title and belt if and only if he really trained well and he tried to learn the ways of Barrios in fighting such as predicting his opponent's next move strike of punch, defense, footwork, and speed. Although I would not like to discredit and invalidate the skills of a professional who is known to be in boxing for a long time already considering his age. Surely this would still be a challenge for Thurman before he will be able to achieve his goal - to win. Hopefully, they would give us an exciting and thrilling performance inside the arena. The announced date is on February 5, so for those fans of both players, be ready to witness their battle and may the best boxer really win.
Thurman has the tools to beat Barrios, no question about it, that's why majority of us here is favouring Thurman to win. But what makes this fight interesting is the whole statement of Thurman that this could serve as a title eliminator and winner takes the winner of Spence vs Ugas. So for sure, many are hype and going to watch and see how Thurman is, if he still has the power to become a champion again.
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January 21, 2022, 06:01:04 AM
WBC Pres Sulaiman said it's not final

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“It’s an official WBC [eliminator], not final,” Mauricio Sulaiman, longtime WBC president informed Boxingscene.com in clarifying the matter. 

https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-president-thurman-barrios-an-official-eliminator-not-final--163542

So it's better for Thurman and Barrios not to think about it as this could put pressures on either of them. Just play with it and go and fight and see who is going to win. And maybe we wait what will be the WBC's decision after the fight.

Ok, it make sense from WBC to somewhat deny this statement from Thurman and says it is not final.

But in the back of my mind, I'm thinking this could be a eliminator indeed and they will make it official after the fight or maybe after Thurman wins. If ever Barrios win though, I think it will be shelve back by WBC. So they want Thurman to win and face the winner of the Ugas and Spence.

I'd love that, Thurman could be a problem for Spence due to his great boxing skills. I think Spence could beat Ugas, but if he will look for a bigger fight, he might not be able to fight Thurman as unification is more interesting than fighting a challenger. It's hard to predict, anything could happen, but either way, these boxers are fun to watch.
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January 21, 2022, 05:55:37 AM
His last fight is against Pacquiao and he lost, this time, I think he can win since Barrios has already passed his prime. I'm hoping that this is a big preparation fight for Thurman vs Crawford because we already have Ugas vs Spence Jr.

Great news for the boxing community.

I think Thurman would win in this fight too because he has an age advantage over Barrios which could be his edge over their upcoming fight. The fight is just a few weeks from now and he could definitely bag the title and belt if and only if he really trained well and he tried to learn the ways of Barrios in fighting such as predicting his opponent's next move strike of punch, defense, footwork, and speed. Although I would not like to discredit and invalidate the skills of a professional who is known to be in boxing for a long time already considering his age. Surely this would still be a challenge for Thurman before he will be able to achieve his goal - to win. Hopefully, they would give us an exciting and thrilling performance inside the arena. The announced date is on February 5, so for those fans of both players, be ready to witness their battle and may the best boxer really win.
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