[Boxing]: Thurman vs Barrios - Feb 5 - page 8.

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Quote from: Japinat on January 29, 2022, 08:21:59 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on January 29, 2022, 04:01:49 AM

Yes, Keith Thurman is 33 years old but I doubt that he can still dance well in the ring considering that he was inactive for almost 3 years but we'll see if he still got what it takes to redeem his name or is it time to hang up his gloves as he's nowhere to go. Barrios on the other hand, had professional fights every year so I guess it's quite safe to say that Thurman will just be a stepping stone to a 26 years old Barrios.

There's only one way to find out, we will know that soon as they will fight. I think he can still dance but maybe there's an effect on his inactivity but he is still a decent fighter, and there's a reason why he is the favorite to win this fight.

33 years old is still a good age for boxers it is actually a ripe age, the 3 years of inactivity will have an impact, he needs a good conditioning coach and tough sparring partners to get into great shape like when he is active three years ago, Thurman is good at picking a comeback opponent, he chooses a fighter who just got knocked out and easily intimidated Thurman knows his weakness because it was very evident in the Gervonta fight.

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Quote from: Russlenat on January 29, 2022, 04:01:49 AM

Yes, Keith Thurman is 33 years old but I doubt that he can still dance well in the ring considering that he was inactive for almost 3 years but we'll see if he still got what it takes to redeem his name or is it time to hang up his gloves as he's nowhere to go. Barrios on the other hand, had professional fights every year so I guess it's quite safe to say that Thurman will just be a stepping stone to a 26 years old Barrios.

There's only one way to find out, we will know that soon as they will fight. I think he can still dance but maybe there's an effect on his inactivity but he is still a decent fighter, and there's a reason why he is the favorite to win this fight.

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Both of these fighters are coming from the only loss of their exciting boxing careers but I think Keith Thurman is already losing his old boxing prowess. Even during his match against Manny Pacquiao, Thurman is noticeably not his old self anymore. He is also not anymore as busy as a fighter for the past years. This will have an effect to his boxing skills. He must already be rusty as a boxer. So I will give my prediction to Barrios winning this match.

Yes, because that is the second fight of Thurman coming from an injury. He fought Josesito Lopez for him comeback and it's a hard fought match. And many observers says that Thurman is not his former self and that's why Manny wanted him. And we all know that Manny knock his ass out and then was weaken in the body shots. So maybe that is what Barrios camp is also seeing, that Thurman is no longer in his old self anymore and who knows, maybe they are right again.

Thurman's boxing career is near its end. It is very obvious. It is even possible this is his last fight depending on how it turns out. If he is badly beaten by Barrios and even knocked out, it is perhaps his last.

But you are wrong in saying Manny knocked him out. Manny knocked him down just once, but in terms of the overall fight Thurman was not schooled. In fact, Thurman won in one of the judges' scorecards. Manny only won by split decision. Some think that Thurman won. That knock down was a big deal.

It was just a slipped though, what I really meant is that he was knock down with the Manny Pacquiao fight.

So we will see in this fight if Thurman's boxing career is near it's end. He is what like 33 years old and should by know at the peak of his career. But he was injured and then a long layoff that might have taken a lot from him. Again, this is a comeback for him and it could be his greatest fight or it could spell disaster for him if he lost.

Yes, Keith Thurman is 33 years old but I doubt that he can still dance well in the ring considering that he was inactive for almost 3 years but we'll see if he still got what it takes to redeem his name or is it time to hang up his gloves as he's nowhere to go. Barrios on the other hand, had professional fights every year so I guess it's quite safe to say that Thurman will just be a stepping stone to a 26 years old Barrios.

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Exactly, Keith Thurman isn't that good anymore, we can really see the way how he move in his last fight against Manny Pacquiao, he's slowly decaying and the fact the haven't got a fight since 2019 will be his disadvantage in the ring unlike Mario Barrios who had professional fights every year since his debut on 2013. Aside from that fact, Barrios has the upper hand here in this fight also the reach.
Either way, seems like Thurman is just chasing the money in this business and trying to use his name even if the lose or win.

We can see if they really put some huge effort into their training when they step in the ring because if they show the same moves and skills as their last fights, that will be their big mistake because their opponent can easily predict where they going and how to counter their moves. No matter how experienced both of them are in the ring, if they only show the same style, the match would end early. I still wanted to see Thurman fight after this though he cannot assure to win this one. I'm sure that if he wins this fight somehow, will give himself some boost of confidence to take on another championship fight.

As for Thurman, I can't say that we have a lot to expect from him and as I've stated that he haven't got any professional fights since Pacquiao defetead him last July 2019, just that fact alone, we already know what would be the repercussions for being inactive in the industry. But still Barrios should see that Thurman isn't any ordinary boxer because the Thurman's experience can vouch for that.

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Quote from: Fatunad on January 28, 2022, 06:53:11 PM

When it comes to experience they arent really too far off.

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3 fights ahead of Thurman and both does have 1 loss.KO% might be differ but not much.
Wont really be surprised if Barrios would give some shot.

On the 29 wins of Thurman, he got 22 KOs.

For Barrios, he got 17 KOs.

Both of them got these good records so, I guess this is going to be a fight that's tough for each other. Not going to be surprised as both of them got good ratio of KOs for their wins.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 26, 2022, 10:14:39 PM

Both of these fighters are coming from the only loss of their exciting boxing careers but I think Keith Thurman is already losing his old boxing prowess. Even during his match against Manny Pacquiao, Thurman is noticeably not his old self anymore. He is also not anymore as busy as a fighter for the past years. This will have an effect to his boxing skills. He must already be rusty as a boxer. So I will give my prediction to Barrios winning this match.

Yes, because that is the second fight of Thurman coming from an injury. He fought Josesito Lopez for him comeback and it's a hard fought match. And many observers says that Thurman is not his former self and that's why Manny wanted him. And we all know that Manny knock his ass out and then was weaken in the body shots. So maybe that is what Barrios camp is also seeing, that Thurman is no longer in his old self anymore and who knows, maybe they are right again.

Thurman's boxing career is near its end. It is very obvious. It is even possible this is his last fight depending on how it turns out. If he is badly beaten by Barrios and even knocked out, it is perhaps his last.

But you are wrong in saying Manny knocked him out. Manny knocked him down just once, but in terms of the overall fight Thurman was not schooled. In fact, Thurman won in one of the judges' scorecards. Manny only won by split decision. Some think that Thurman won. That knock down was a big deal.

It was just a slipped though, what I really meant is that he was knock down with the Manny Pacquiao fight.

So we will see in this fight if Thurman's boxing career is near it's end. He is what like 33 years old and should by know at the peak of his career. But he was injured and then a long layoff that might have taken a lot from him. Again, this is a comeback for him and it could be his greatest fight or it could spell disaster for him if he lost.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on January 27, 2022, 03:47:58 PM

Proving he can win is something that he has to do, his record is nothing if he cannot beat Thurman who is a previous champion in Welterweight division, it could be his biggest challenge in his boxing career but not for Thurman, so in terms of confidence, I got Thurman here ready to teach Barrios some lessons.

Of course both boxers will do everything to win. We should not stay confident that Thurman will win just because of records.

If others don't know, other analyst thinks that Thurman is already rust. Barrios on the other hand is active and given with a chance that he can win on this fight against the former champion, Thurman.

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Quote from: Russlenat on January 28, 2022, 04:25:58 PM

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So in this fight, if Barrios has the power and speed then he can do the say. Score a knock down and shoot for Thurman's body because that is a weak spot.

Sorry but I don't see that happening, he cannot even beat Gervonta Davis who is smaller than Thurman, how can he knock out a big guy like Thurman. Barrios still has a lot to learn in boxing, Thurman is already on the top level, if he can beat Thurman, then I would believe that one day he will be a champion in the Welterweight division.

It's not about the size, have you forgotten that Manny Pacquiao was smaller than Thurman and yet he won against him? Man, this is boxing, every boxer has an advantage and weakness and being a smaller fighter could also be use as an advantage.

^ Size does not matter in boxing as long as grip strength is there, it's very important when grappling and delivering punches.
When it comes to strength, weight, and height are different things, it has always an advantage when you have this strength even though you are not taller and that is right size does not matter.
However, in this match, I will go to Thurman's side, I know he has the capability to defeat Barrios with his strong punches very quickly.

Barrios is quick as well but Thurman has been in many fights with different great fighters. It's his division, so it's just right that people will lean on him in this fight. In terms of experience, Thurman is way more mature and though both came from a loss Thurman's loss was a very close one, and it was a big fight.

When it comes to experience they arent really too far off.

Keith Thurman
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Mario Barrios
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3 fights ahead of Thurman and both does have 1 loss.KO% might be differ but not much.
Wont really be surprised if Barrios would give some shot.

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So in this fight, if Barrios has the power and speed then he can do the say. Score a knock down and shoot for Thurman's body because that is a weak spot.

Sorry but I don't see that happening, he cannot even beat Gervonta Davis who is smaller than Thurman, how can he knock out a big guy like Thurman. Barrios still has a lot to learn in boxing, Thurman is already on the top level, if he can beat Thurman, then I would believe that one day he will be a champion in the Welterweight division.

It's not about the size, have you forgotten that Manny Pacquiao was smaller than Thurman and yet he won against him? Man, this is boxing, every boxer has an advantage and weakness and being a smaller fighter could also be use as an advantage.

^ Size does not matter in boxing as long as grip strength is there, it's very important when grappling and delivering punches.
When it comes to strength, weight, and height are different things, it has always an advantage when you have this strength even though you are not taller and that is right size does not matter.
However, in this match, I will go to Thurman's side, I know he has the capability to defeat Barrios with his strong punches very quickly.

Barrios is quick as well but Thurman has been in many fights with different great fighters. It's his division, so it's just right that people will lean on him in this fight. In terms of experience, Thurman is way more mature and though both came from a loss Thurman's loss was a very close one, and it was a big fight.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on January 28, 2022, 08:19:58 AM

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Quote from: Kemarit on January 28, 2022, 12:23:53 AM

So in this fight, if Barrios has the power and speed then he can do the say. Score a knock down and shoot for Thurman's body because that is a weak spot.

Sorry but I don't see that happening, he cannot even beat Gervonta Davis who is smaller than Thurman, how can he knock out a big guy like Thurman. Barrios still has a lot to learn in boxing, Thurman is already on the top level, if he can beat Thurman, then I would believe that one day he will be a champion in the Welterweight division.

It's not about the size, have you forgotten that Manny Pacquiao was smaller than Thurman and yet he won against him? Man, this is boxing, every boxer has an advantage and weakness and being a smaller fighter could also be use as an advantage.

^ Size does not matter in boxing as long as grip strength is there, it's very important when grappling and delivering punches.
When it comes to strength, weight, and height are different things, it has always an advantage when you have this strength even though you are not taller and that is right size does not matter.
However, in this match, I will go to Thurman's side, I know he has the capability to defeat Barrios with his strong punches very quickly.

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Quote from: molsewid on January 28, 2022, 12:41:23 PM

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Sorry but I don't see that happening, he cannot even beat Gervonta Davis who is smaller than Thurman, how can he knock out a big guy like Thurman. Barrios still has a lot to learn in boxing, Thurman is already on the top level, if he can beat Thurman, then I would believe that one day he will be a champion in the Welterweight division.

This is a good basis for me as a bettor of this fight which one will definitely good to bet on. Though I've made a quick research about these fighters and you know Thurman is the crowd's favorite here and now through this I know why. Sometimes, relying on bet odds is not quite enough that's why conducting or you know having a thought about a fighters capacities, capabilities and a review for his past or recent fights will going to give a bettors a hint which one should they choose to support on.

The odds would only give you an idea about the fight, however, you need to be smart enough to verify if the odds are overvalued or undervalued. As for the betting odds, Thurman is the crowd favorite and I think it's just right because he will likely win this fight anyway and I am one of the many who believes that.

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Quote from: Sled on January 28, 2022, 07:54:08 AM

Sorry but I don't see that happening, he cannot even beat Gervonta Davis who is smaller than Thurman, how can he knock out a big guy like Thurman. Barrios still has a lot to learn in boxing, Thurman is already on the top level, if he can beat Thurman, then I would believe that one day he will be a champion in the Welterweight division.

This is a good basis for me as a bettor of this fight which one will definitely good to bet on. Though I've made a quick research about these fighters and you know Thurman is the crowd's favorite here and now through this I know why. Sometimes, relying on bet odds is not quite enough that's why conducting or you know having a thought about a fighters capacities, capabilities and a review for his past or recent fights will going to give a bettors a hint which one should they choose to support on.

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Mario Barris will have to put on weight for this fight. For any athlete, this is a very difficult test. He may partially lose such qualities as agility and maneuverability.

But the main thing is not the physical form. The main thing is the will to win. I have a feeling that Keith Thurman believes more in his victory than Mario.

Perhaps Mario is still painfully experiencing his defeat in the battle with Davis.

In my opinion, Keith Thurman has a better chance of winning this fight.

I dont have doubts on physical form of Barrios but that wont really be enough on beating up Thurman basing up with statistics/experience/technical fighter then i dont really believe
that he would able to beat out Thurman but we know that this guy could really have that chance and this would really be a test of will and endurance and some luck
on giving out some unexpected blows which might really able for him to win but well its just all in chances and lets see if it could really push through.

I read an interview with Mario Barris.

He analyzed his chances of winning the fight with Keith Thurman. I was looking for a hint of a strong will to win in his words.

The great Russian writer Leo Tolstoy wrote in his novel "War and Peace" that the one who believes more in his victory wins the war.

Does Mario Barris believe in his victory over Keith Thurman? In my opinion - "No".

Mario lacks aggressiveness. Aggression is very important for a boxer. The boxer must not reflex.

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Quote from: Sled on January 28, 2022, 07:54:08 AM

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So in this fight, if Barrios has the power and speed then he can do the say. Score a knock down and shoot for Thurman's body because that is a weak spot.

Sorry but I don't see that happening, he cannot even beat Gervonta Davis who is smaller than Thurman, how can he knock out a big guy like Thurman. Barrios still has a lot to learn in boxing, Thurman is already on the top level, if he can beat Thurman, then I would believe that one day he will be a champion in the Welterweight division.

It's not about the size, have you forgotten that Manny Pacquiao was smaller than Thurman and yet he won against him? Man, this is boxing, every boxer has an advantage and weakness and being a smaller fighter could also be use as an advantage.

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Quote from: Kemarit on January 28, 2022, 12:23:53 AM

So in this fight, if Barrios has the power and speed then he can do the say. Score a knock down and shoot for Thurman's body because that is a weak spot.

Sorry but I don't see that happening, he cannot even beat Gervonta Davis who is smaller than Thurman, how can he knock out a big guy like Thurman. Barrios still has a lot to learn in boxing, Thurman is already on the top level, if he can beat Thurman, then I would believe that one day he will be a champion in the Welterweight division.

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Seems Thurman is 100% ready in this fight. As per his interview:

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What do you have in your sights for 2022?

“I want my world titles back. This is the first step to putting myself back in championship contention. I see the welterweight division like a horse race. Everybody is running full-speed trying to get to the finish line - and the finish line is where you are crowned king of the division.

https://www.boxingscene.com/thurman-i-skills-reclaim-my-number-one-spot-147--163717

And from his own words, he wanted his title back, meaning he will contend to fight the best in this division. With the likes of Spence, Crawford and even Ugas, the welterweight division is pretty much on fire right now.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 26, 2022, 10:14:39 PM

Both of these fighters are coming from the only loss of their exciting boxing careers but I think Keith Thurman is already losing his old boxing prowess. Even during his match against Manny Pacquiao, Thurman is noticeably not his old self anymore. He is also not anymore as busy as a fighter for the past years. This will have an effect to his boxing skills. He must already be rusty as a boxer. So I will give my prediction to Barrios winning this match.

Yes, because that is the second fight of Thurman coming from an injury. He fought Josesito Lopez for him comeback and it's a hard fought match. And many observers says that Thurman is not his former self and that's why Manny wanted him. And we all know that Manny knock his ass out and then was weaken in the body shots. So maybe that is what Barrios camp is also seeing, that Thurman is no longer in his old self anymore and who knows, maybe they are right again.

Thurman's boxing career is near its end. It is very obvious. It is even possible this is his last fight depending on how it turns out. If he is badly beaten by Barrios and even knocked out, it is perhaps his last.

But you are wrong in saying Manny knocked him out. Manny knocked him down just once, but in terms of the overall fight Thurman was not schooled. In fact, Thurman won in one of the judges' scorecards. Manny only won by split decision. Some think that Thurman won. That knock down was a big deal.

Just for the semantics though, yes it was just a knock down, but it was enough for Manny to win that fight and give Thurman a rude awakening in that fight. And although Manny faded late, it was enough that he build a good lead already.

So in this fight, if Barrios has the power and speed then he can do the say. Score a knock down and shoot for Thurman's body because that is a weak spot.

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Quote from: Fredomago on January 27, 2022, 10:37:34 PM

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Easier said than done, Thurman maybe the popular boxer here but Barrios record is quite decent as well, he is more active than Thurman and they both are coming from a loss, so both of them are probably training hard to be in the winning track again which makes the fight more explosive. You know what, I'm gonna be expecting a KO here so I will definitely put a bet on per round or round ranges KO which I think has a very attractive odds.

If you are into gambling odds for per round will surely attracts you, bigger value for your money if happened that you pick the right one and I'm sure you are not the only one who will going to do this same bet strategy, instead of ML more gamblers will wait for a round range for possible KO, personally, that's also what I'm thinking,

if Thurman or Barrios wants a big hype for their career, this fight will be the key, especially if they will manage to knock their opponents down.

It will be an open door for more valuable fights, including a title match if media will hype their names.

Yes, for boxing gamblers, I don't think that they are going to bet on ML here, not just this fight but all other fights, betting on the favorites would just give you small returns unless you are all in and with huge amount to bet.

So it's better to look for options like which rounds etc, the risk is high but if you hit it, gonna be a good win for you. For me, Thurman maybe by rounds 8 to 10 but stoppage or even a knock out.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on January 27, 2022, 04:36:39 PM

Easier said than done, Thurman maybe the popular boxer here but Barrios record is quite decent as well, he is more active than Thurman and they both are coming from a loss, so both of them are probably training hard to be in the winning track again which makes the fight more explosive. You know what, I'm gonna be expecting a KO here so I will definitely put a bet on per round or round ranges KO which I think has a very attractive odds.

If you are into gambling odds for per round will surely attracts you, bigger value for your money if happened that you pick the right one and I'm sure you are not the only one who will going to do this same bet strategy, instead of ML more gamblers will wait for a round range for possible KO, personally, that's also what I'm thinking,

if Thurman or Barrios wants a big hype for their career, this fight will be the key, especially if they will manage to knock their opponents down.

It will be an open door for more valuable fights, including a title match if media will hype their names.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 26, 2022, 10:14:39 PM

Both of these fighters are coming from the only loss of their exciting boxing careers but I think Keith Thurman is already losing his old boxing prowess. Even during his match against Manny Pacquiao, Thurman is noticeably not his old self anymore. He is also not anymore as busy as a fighter for the past years. This will have an effect to his boxing skills. He must already be rusty as a boxer. So I will give my prediction to Barrios winning this match.

Yes, because that is the second fight of Thurman coming from an injury. He fought Josesito Lopez for him comeback and it's a hard fought match. And many observers says that Thurman is not his former self and that's why Manny wanted him. And we all know that Manny knock his ass out and then was weaken in the body shots. So maybe that is what Barrios camp is also seeing, that Thurman is no longer in his old self anymore and who knows, maybe they are right again.

Thurman's boxing career is near its end. It is very obvious. It is even possible this is his last fight depending on how it turns out. If he is badly beaten by Barrios and even knocked out, it is perhaps his last.

But you are wrong in saying Manny knocked him out. Manny knocked him down just once, but in terms of the overall fight Thurman was not schooled. In fact, Thurman won in one of the judges' scorecards. Manny only won by split decision. Some think that Thurman won. That knock down was a big deal.

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