[Boxing]: Thurman vs Barrios - Feb 5 - page 6.

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It's a little bit worrying for Barrios because his last fight ended him losing via technical knockout and he was dropped three times, he is vulnerable in body and head he was even knockdown with a jab he has weak knees in his fight against Davis, and we all know a boxer is judged based on his last fight and this is something Thurman will explore, I'm sure he will go all out trying to intimidate Barrios jus like what Davis did.
I would not rule out Barrios but he should do something different.

Barrios might already learn from his previous games, his advantaged this time is his age being younger than Thurman he may have a chance if Thurman will make it easy for him which is not since Thurman have a good number of record of winnings knockout. Hopefully it will still be a good match and we may see something unexpected to Barrios that can excite the supporters and viewers.

That's not an advantage IMO as though Thurman is older but he is not old enough, he still has the power and I think he is still in his prime even at his age. I can't wait to see this fight, I would really love to witness how Thurman will teach Barrios a lesson, and that Thurman will get an impressive win here.

I'm also expecting Thurman to put up a show here, Barrios hasn't tested this weight class, this is his first time and he will face a former champion. And yes, at age 33, this is still prime years for boxers, and we will witness that in Thurman. He is aching for a comeback and show us that he can bang in the welterweight division. So expect no less than a knock out for his comeback win.

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It's a little bit worrying for Barrios because his last fight ended him losing via technical knockout and he was dropped three times, he is vulnerable in body and head he was even knockdown with a jab he has weak knees in his fight against Davis, and we all know a boxer is judged based on his last fight and this is something Thurman will explore, I'm sure he will go all out trying to intimidate Barrios jus like what Davis did.
I would not rule out Barrios but he should do something different.

Barrios might already learn from his previous games, his advantage this time is his age being younger than Thurman he may have a chance if Thurman will make it easy for him which is not since Thurman have a good number record of winnings knockout. Hopefully, it will still be a good match and we may see something unexpected to Barrios that can excite the supporters and viewers.

That's not an advantage IMO in though Thurman is older but he is not old enough, he still has the power and I think he is still in his prime even at his age. I can't wait to see this fight, I would love to witness how Thurman will teach Barrios a lesson, and that Thurman will get an impressive win here.

Thurman's age is his advantage, in my own opinion. Likewise, the early 30s are the prime of every fighter. With good workouts and drills

he can simply increase his stamina, barrios might use his speed and try to throw heavy punches to create openings, but he needs to be more

active and careful knowing Thurman also can knock him down, Thurman, if given a chance, will put him down and make an

Impressive win.. Wink

Time has almost come and that day we can see a great fight by a famous and great fighter. Thurman has a chance to win this match but we can not sure that we will win cause we all know that Barrie's will do his best too to defeat Thurman and he has the potential and good stamina to sustain the fight so this is a hard fight by Thurman, and I think this is interesting to watch.

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It's a little bit worrying for Barrios because his last fight ended him losing via technical knockout and he was dropped three times, he is vulnerable in body and head he was even knockdown with a jab he has weak knees in his fight against Davis, and we all know a boxer is judged based on his last fight and this is something Thurman will explore, I'm sure he will go all out trying to intimidate Barrios jus like what Davis did.
I would not rule out Barrios but he should do something different.

Barrios might already learn from his previous games, his advantaged this time is his age being younger than Thurman he may have a chance if Thurman will make it easy for him which is not since Thurman have a good number of record of winnings knockout. Hopefully it will still be a good match and we may see something unexpected to Barrios that can excite the supporters and viewers.

That's not an advantage IMO as though Thurman is older but he is not old enough, he still has the power and I think he is still in his prime even at his age. I can't wait to see this fight, I would really love to witness how Thurman will teach Barrios a lesson, and that Thurman will get an impressive win here.

Thurman's age is his advantage, in my own opinion. Likewise, early 30s is the prime of every fighter. With good workouts and drills

he can simply increase his stamina, barrios might use his speed and try to throw heavy punches to create openings, but he needs to be more

active and careful knowing Thurman also has the capability to knock him down, Thurman, if given a chance, will put him down and make an

Impressive win.. Wink

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Quote from: aioc on February 01, 2022, 04:20:16 AM

It's a little bit worrying for Barrios because his last fight ended him losing via technical knockout and he was dropped three times, he is vulnerable in body and head he was even knockdown with a jab he has weak knees in his fight against Davis, and we all know a boxer is judged based on his last fight and this is something Thurman will explore, I'm sure he will go all out trying to intimidate Barrios jus like what Davis did.
I would not rule out Barrios but he should do something different.

Barrios might already learn from his previous games, his advantaged this time is his age being younger than Thurman he may have a chance if Thurman will make it easy for him which is not since Thurman have a good number of record of winnings knockout. Hopefully it will still be a good match and we may see something unexpected to Barrios that can excite the supporters and viewers.

That's not an advantage IMO as though Thurman is older but he is not old enough, he still has the power and I think he is still in his prime even at his age. I can't wait to see this fight, I would really love to witness how Thurman will teach Barrios a lesson, and that Thurman will get an impressive win here.

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Thurman is a chance for thurman to win this fight after he lost his last fight. Based on fighting experience between thurman and barrios, thurman may likely win the fight against barrios.

Both have the chance to win.

It's going to be the matter of whoever goes first and got lucky with him is the one that will ring the bell. Don't belittle the other fighter if you're for Thurman.

It's a little bit worrying for Barrios because his last fight ended him losing via technical knockout and he was dropped three times, he is vulnerable in body and head he was even knockdown with a jab he has weak knees in his fight against Davis, and we all know a boxer is judged based on his last fight and this is something Thurman will explore, I'm sure he will go all out trying to intimidate Barrios jus like what Davis did.
I would not rule out Barrios but he should do something different.

Perhaps he has difficulty making the 140 lbs limit that time that's why he is vulnerable to body shots and as the rounds go on, his body is not performing because maybe it was drain just to make the 140 lbs.

And now that he moves up in weight, maybe that could be non-factor. However, he is facing another hard hitter so we will see how his body will react if hits by a bigger and natural welter.

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Thurman is a chance for thurman to win this fight after he lost his last fight. Based on fighting experience between thurman and barrios, thurman may likely win the fight against barrios.

Both have the chance to win.

It's going to be the matter of whoever goes first and got lucky with him is the one that will ring the bell. Don't belittle the other fighter if you're for Thurman.

It's a little bit worrying for Barrios because his last fight ended him losing via technical knockout and he was dropped three times, he is vulnerable in body and head he was even knockdown with a jab he has weak knees in his fight against Davis, and we all know a boxer is judged based on his last fight and this is something Thurman will explore, I'm sure he will go all out trying to intimidate Barrios jus like what Davis did.
I would not rule out Barrios but he should do something different.

But that was against Davis who is a champion and undefeated if Barrios lose in his last fight, it's not different for Thurman because he also lost in his previous fight against Pacman. Both would want to win here, and whoever wins will have a chance to fight the best in welterweights and of course I'm talking about the champions.

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Quote from: boyptc on January 31, 2022, 05:13:59 PM

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Thurman is a chance for thurman to win this fight after he lost his last fight. Based on fighting experience between thurman and barrios, thurman may likely win the fight against barrios.

Both have the chance to win.

It's going to be the matter of whoever goes first and got lucky with him is the one that will ring the bell. Don't belittle the other fighter if you're for Thurman.

It's a little bit worrying for Barrios because his last fight ended him losing via technical knockout and he was dropped three times, he is vulnerable in body and head he was even knockdown with a jab he has weak knees in his fight against Davis, and we all know a boxer is judged based on his last fight and this is something Thurman will explore, I'm sure he will go all out trying to intimidate Barrios jus like what Davis did.
I would not rule out Barrios but he should do something different.

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Quote from: Kemarit on January 30, 2022, 10:18:07 PM

So it doesn't matter what round will Thurman get the KO, maybe it going to be in late rounds.
But still, it will be a hard fight in the beginning for him, a lot of adjustments and then if the KO is there, he will go for it.

A Knockout win should be aggressively pushed on the early rounds. Since Thurman is inactive for around 3 years, we can't expect his overall stamina to be the same as before. If he won't make a KO win on early rounds, he might be running out of stamina to do it and will just have to make sure that he gets the most points every round to play safely on the stat sheet for a Decision result.

Hesitant here that Thurman will make a KO win but not closing the possibility that it will happen. Like I usually read here, he is a former champion and his experience is already a good stand point to predict what will be his performance few days from now.

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Quote from: Kemarit on January 30, 2022, 10:18:07 PM

I like the odds on Thurman by KO win. I think Keith will go for a big win here and show the world that he is definitely back. Sort of sending messages to the rest of the welterweight that he is back to reclaim his title (and this is what he is saying when he is being interviewed for this fight).

Seems like really a good bet instead of betting Thurman to just win the fight. A KO win is possible to happen as Thurman is expected to be pumped as he is hungry and excited for his comeback. Barrios already knows that and I'm sure he already has some things planning out to spoil Thurman's return.

I'm not seeing an upset here but there's always a probability for it to happen.

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Quote from: Fredomago on January 31, 2022, 11:33:34 AM

yes he need to put everything here and a possible early KO would bring more entertainment for the fans, afterwards we can discuss possible big fight if Thurman will win in a very convincing way, else, if he won't succeed the chance may be lesser as fans interest will not be that much, though a win still a win but we are expecting something out from a very familiar former champ who really good at this division.

He really should put everything here. That fight will determine his career in the future. If he loses that one, and still wants to fight, he will start again facing low-tier boxers. The revenue of that fight is also a question regardless of the result.

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Good luck to all who already decide placing their bets as per current odd. ML for Thurman is @ 1.50

Seems like a worthy odds for those who really eyes that Thurman will win. Even lucky to have that odds as if Thurman is active, it might be @1.1 or @1.2 (well in the first place they might not have a chance to face each other if Thurman is active lol).

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Thurman is a chance for thurman to win this fight after he lost his last fight. Based on fighting experience between thurman and barrios, thurman may likely win the fight against barrios.

Both have the chance to win.

It's going to be the matter of whoever goes first and got lucky with him is the one that will ring the bell. Don't belittle the other fighter if you're for Thurman.

I haven't made a choice yet but these two are great fighters and you just can't ignore how they're holding good records.

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I like the odds on Thurman by KO win. I think Keith will go for a big win here and show the world that he is definitely back. Sort of sending messages to the rest of the welterweight that he is back to reclaim his title (and this is what he is saying when he is being interviewed for this fight).

So it doesn't matter what round will Thurman get the KO, maybe it going to be in late rounds.
But still, it will be a hard fight in the beginning for him, a lot of adjustments and then if the KO is there, he will go for it.

It's somehow expected that Thurman will go berserk mode in either the middle rounds or late rounds because in the first few rounds he'll probably overcome the ringrust effect first before he can fight comfortably and confidently. But sure that won't be a problem to him as he's a former world champion. Both fighters are so dedicated and determined to win this match, they have their own reasons why and we probably know that already, anyway we will see it soon.

Not only that, but Thurman is a slow starter, just like in the Manny fight. He started very slow and then get's how in the mid rounds but it was not enough as Manny has build a good lead in the fight.

So we will see if he will change this (but I highly doubt it), and we all know that ring rust will play a big factor for him in this fight. So probably he will just coast early trying to shake his ring rust and then if he found openings in the middle rounds then he can go and start for there.

Not all the fight he is a slow starter I guess, it's just normal that he starts slowly with Pacman as he knows his power, and maybe he was hesitant to attack as he might be in trouble. This is a different fight, a different level of fighter and not even on the level of Pacman and other champions, so I expect Thurman to be aggressive from the start to the end.

I think Thurman already knows what to do and that's not to be hot aggressive in early rounds as it could be really dangerous for him, and it's not that Thurman is a slow starter, in fact all boxers starts slow because they have to measure the opponent first rather than just go and be aggressive. As you said, this is a whole different fighter and a different level, so I guess Thurman will observe Barrios's movements first before he starts to dance again.

When it comes to good technical fighting then Thurman does fit out into that kind of type or behavior.Of course each boxer does really have that kind of behavior on testing out on early rounds
and trying out to dominate or controlling the pace and its just not right on being aggressive but there are actually fighters who do really have this kind of style but
in most fighters they arent something like this.For Thurman and we have seen on previous fights that he isnt really that aggressive but really good on technicals.

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Quote from: yazher on January 31, 2022, 06:03:11 AM

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Great analysis though, on point, because if Thurman wants to have a bigger fight after a win, he should win convincingly, and there's no other way to make the fight convincing but to KO an opponent, so yes, there's a better chance that he will win by KO, and I'm with you on your bet.

He needs to vie it all here as it's his last fight if he still wants to revive his popularity which was already subsided years ago. But Thurman is one of the popular entertainers in the boxing industry, he can still be a good asset if he somehow loses this fight and decided to be like Porter, a boxing commentator. The fight is next week and that would be a must-watch for me since I want to see him fight and get back in the ring after this.

yes he need to put everything here and a possible early KO would bring more entertainment for the fans, afterwards we can discuss possible big fight if Thurman will win in a very convincing way, else, if he won't succeed the chance may be lesser as fans interest will not be that much, though a win still a win but we are expecting something out from a very familiar former champ who really good at this division.

Good luck to all who already decide placing their bets as per current odd. ML for Thurman is @ 1.50

Not bad if you are not a hard gambler, if you want just to add some spice with your entertainment while watching the fight.. Tongue

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I like the odds on Thurman by KO win. I think Keith will go for a big win here and show the world that he is definitely back. Sort of sending messages to the rest of the welterweight that he is back to reclaim his title (and this is what he is saying when he is being interviewed for this fight).

So it doesn't matter what round will Thurman get the KO, maybe it going to be in late rounds.
But still, it will be a hard fight in the beginning for him, a lot of adjustments and then if the KO is there, he will go for it.

It's somehow expected that Thurman will go berserk mode in either the middle rounds or late rounds because in the first few rounds he'll probably overcome the ringrust effect first before he can fight comfortably and confidently. But sure that won't be a problem to him as he's a former world champion. Both fighters are so dedicated and determined to win this match, they have their own reasons why and we probably know that already, anyway we will see it soon.

Not only that, but Thurman is a slow starter, just like in the Manny fight. He started very slow and then get's how in the mid rounds but it was not enough as Manny has build a good lead in the fight.

So we will see if he will change this (but I highly doubt it), and we all know that ring rust will play a big factor for him in this fight. So probably he will just coast early trying to shake his ring rust and then if he found openings in the middle rounds then he can go and start for there.

Not all the fight he is a slow starter I guess, it's just normal that he starts slowly with Pacman as he knows his power, and maybe he was hesitant to attack as he might be in trouble. This is a different fight, a different level of fighter and not even on the level of Pacman and other champions, so I expect Thurman to be aggressive from the start to the end.

I think Thurman already knows what to do and that's not to be hot aggressive in early rounds as it could be really dangerous for him, and it's not that Thurman is a slow starter, in fact all boxers starts slow because they have to measure the opponent first rather than just go and be aggressive. As you said, this is a whole different fighter and a different level, so I guess Thurman will observe Barrios's movements first before he starts to dance again.

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I like the odds on Thurman by KO win. I think Keith will go for a big win here and show the world that he is definitely back. Sort of sending messages to the rest of the welterweight that he is back to reclaim his title (and this is what he is saying when he is being interviewed for this fight).

So it doesn't matter what round will Thurman get the KO, maybe it going to be in late rounds.
But still, it will be a hard fight in the beginning for him, a lot of adjustments and then if the KO is there, he will go for it.

It's somehow expected that Thurman will go berserk mode in either the middle rounds or late rounds because in the first few rounds he'll probably overcome the ringrust effect first before he can fight comfortably and confidently. But sure that won't be a problem to him as he's a former world champion. Both fighters are so dedicated and determined to win this match, they have their own reasons why and we probably know that already, anyway we will see it soon.

Not only that, but Thurman is a slow starter, just like in the Manny fight. He started very slow and then get's how in the mid rounds but it was not enough as Manny has build a good lead in the fight.

So we will see if he will change this (but I highly doubt it), and we all know that ring rust will play a big factor for him in this fight. So probably he will just coast early trying to shake his ring rust and then if he found openings in the middle rounds then he can go and start for there.

Not all the fight he is a slow starter I guess, it's just normal that he starts slowly with Pacman as he knows his power, and maybe he was hesitant to attack as he might be in trouble. This is a different fight, a different level of fighter and not even on the level of Pacman and other champions, so I expect Thurman to be aggressive from the start to the end.

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Great analysis though, on point, because if Thurman wants to have a bigger fight after a win, he should win convincingly, and there's no other way to make the fight convincing but to KO an opponent, so yes, there's a better chance that he will win by KO, and I'm with you on your bet.

He needs to vie it all here as it's his last fight if he still wants to revive his popularity which was already subsided years ago. But Thurman is one of the popular entertainers in the boxing industry, he can still be a good asset if he somehow loses this fight and decided to be like Porter, a boxing commentator. The fight is next week and that would be a must-watch for me since I want to see him fight and get back in the ring after this.

He can only revive his popularity if he will be a champion again, and it should start by winning on his come-back fight. A win here will make noise in the boxing industry, and of course, a champion always has a challenger, so who knows, maybe one day Thurman will challenge one of the champions in the Welterweight division.

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I like the odds on Thurman by KO win. I think Keith will go for a big win here and show the world that he is definitely back. Sort of sending messages to the rest of the welterweight that he is back to reclaim his title (and this is what he is saying when he is being interviewed for this fight).

So it doesn't matter what round will Thurman get the KO, maybe it going to be in late rounds.
But still, it will be a hard fight in the beginning for him, a lot of adjustments and then if the KO is there, he will go for it.

It's somehow expected that Thurman will go berserk mode in either the middle rounds or late rounds because in the first few rounds he'll probably overcome the ringrust effect first before he can fight comfortably and confidently. But sure that won't be a problem to him as he's a former world champion. Both fighters are so dedicated and determined to win this match, they have their own reasons why and we probably know that already, anyway we will see it soon.

Not only that, but Thurman is a slow starter, just like in the Manny fight. He started very slow and then get's how in the mid rounds but it was not enough as Manny has build a good lead in the fight.

So we will see if he will change this (but I highly doubt it), and we all know that ring rust will play a big factor for him in this fight. So probably he will just coast early trying to shake his ring rust and then if he found openings in the middle rounds then he can go and start for there.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on January 31, 2022, 12:05:46 AM

Great analysis though, on point, because if Thurman wants to have a bigger fight after a win, he should win convincingly, and there's no other way to make the fight convincing but to KO an opponent, so yes, there's a better chance that he will win by KO, and I'm with you on your bet.

He needs to vie it all here as it's his last fight if he still wants to revive his popularity which was already subsided years ago. But Thurman is one of the popular entertainers in the boxing industry, he can still be a good asset if he somehow loses this fight and decided to be like Porter, a boxing commentator. The fight is next week and that would be a must-watch for me since I want to see him fight and get back in the ring after this.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on January 31, 2022, 12:05:46 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on January 30, 2022, 10:18:07 PM

I like the odds on Thurman by KO win. I think Keith will go for a big win here and show the world that he is definitely back. Sort of sending messages to the rest of the welterweight that he is back to reclaim his title (and this is what he is saying when he is being interviewed for this fight).

So it doesn't matter what round will Thurman get the KO, maybe it going to be in late rounds.
But still, it will be a hard fight in the beginning for him, a lot of adjustments and then if the KO is there, he will go for it.

Great analysis though, on point, because if Thurman wants to have a bigger fight after a win, he should win convincingly, and there's no other way to make the fight convincing but to KO an opponent, so yes, there's a better chance that he will win by KO, and I'm with you on your bet.

Yes, if he wins and then just a so-so performance or a win that is questionable, then Thurman might not get the winner of Ugas vs Spence. Maybe he will get another fight first and see if he still has the mentally or not.

So a KO bet is not that bad after all, the odds are good and we might see it happening in this fight.

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Quote from: Kemarit on January 30, 2022, 10:18:07 PM

I like the odds on Thurman by KO win. I think Keith will go for a big win here and show the world that he is definitely back. Sort of sending messages to the rest of the welterweight that he is back to reclaim his title (and this is what he is saying when he is being interviewed for this fight).

So it doesn't matter what round will Thurman get the KO, maybe it going to be in late rounds.
But still, it will be a hard fight in the beginning for him, a lot of adjustments and then if the KO is there, he will go for it.

It's somehow expected that Thurman will go berserk mode in either the middle rounds or late rounds because in the first few rounds he'll probably overcome the ringrust effect first before he can fight comfortably and confidently. But sure that won't be a problem to him as he's a former world champion. Both fighters are so dedicated and determined to win this match, they have their own reasons why and we probably know that already, anyway we will see it soon.

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