[Boxing]: Thurman vs Barrios - Feb 5 - page 7.

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Quote from: Kemarit on January 30, 2022, 10:18:07 PM

I like the odds on Thurman by KO win. I think Keith will go for a big win here and show the world that he is definitely back. Sort of sending messages to the rest of the welterweight that he is back to reclaim his title (and this is what he is saying when he is being interviewed for this fight).

So it doesn't matter what round will Thurman get the KO, maybe it going to be in late rounds.
But still, it will be a hard fight in the beginning for him, a lot of adjustments and then if the KO is there, he will go for it.

Great analysis though, on point, because if Thurman wants to have a bigger fight after a win, he should win convincingly, and there's no other way to make the fight convincing but to KO an opponent, so yes, there's a better chance that he will win by KO, and I'm with you on your bet.

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I like the odds on Thurman by KO win. I think Keith will go for a big win here and show the world that he is definitely back. Sort of sending messages to the rest of the welterweight that he is back to reclaim his title (and this is what he is saying when he is being interviewed for this fight).

So it doesn't matter what round will Thurman get the KO, maybe it going to be in late rounds.
But still, it will be a hard fight in the beginning for him, a lot of adjustments and then if the KO is there, he will go for it.

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It's already fight week, for sure majority of us are excited even for non bettors because we can just watch this great match.

It's going to be interesting fight, Thurman coming back after a long hiatus and then Barrios moving up to the Welterweight and trying to "test his mettle". But boxing fans has spoken from this community, it's Thurman to win this fight. So let's see if majority is right in picking him.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on January 30, 2022, 04:20:22 PM

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Quote from: mirakal on January 30, 2022, 01:27:31 PM

Thurman's boxing experience can speak of that, he's still a pretty decent fighter even if he rested for a couple of years and he still can be lethal if Barrios will underestimate him or lower his guard for a bit. Though, we can't ignore the fact that Thurman was inactive but we'll see how will he cope for that because we know that there's some effect for being inactive. We'll see it soon!

Agree, Thurman is still a dangerous fighter even though he has been out for two years now and for me Thurman has the advantage on this fight because this is his weight while Barrios is not yet too comfortable in this division.

I'm for Keith Thurman this weekend but with his inactivity for a long time i would go for that "Thurman by decision" @2.60, that is not bad at all.

I'll go with the higher odds, it's Thurman by KO.

Although he was inactive for years, I still believe he did not change and he is still a very dangerous fighter.
Barrios lost to Davis via TKO, so it's not impossible that he will lose in the same fashion against Thurman.

Win or lose that bet of mine is final.

Thurman by KO is possible but i would go for ending up on a decision which 2.xx odds isnt really that bad either but for those who are eyeing on
on Barrios then 4-5 odds isnt that bad but only to those who do believe that there might be some upset that would happen in this fight
and believed that Thurman inactivity did really take some toll on possible performance against Barrios.

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Quote from: robelneo on January 29, 2022, 06:16:04 PM

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Quote from: Russlenat on January 29, 2022, 04:01:49 AM

Yes, Keith Thurman is 33 years old but I doubt that he can still dance well in the ring considering that he was inactive for almost 3 years but we'll see if he still got what it takes to redeem his name or is it time to hang up his gloves as he's nowhere to go. Barrios on the other hand, had professional fights every year so I guess it's quite safe to say that Thurman will just be a stepping stone to a 26 years old Barrios.

There's only one way to find out, we will know that soon as they will fight. I think he can still dance but maybe there's an effect on his inactivity but he is still a decent fighter, and there's a reason why he is the favorite to win this fight.

33 years old is still a good age for boxers it is actually a ripe age, the 3 years of inactivity will have an impact, he needs a good conditioning coach and tough sparring partners to get into great shape like when he is active three years ago, Thurman is good at picking a comeback opponent, he chooses a fighter who just got knocked out and easily intimidated Thurman knows his weakness because it was very evident in the Gervonta fight.

I'm not taking age as a disadvantage but I agree with you that because of inactivity, it plays a big impact. There are lots of good boxers still at their best on their 33 years of age, even older than that but those are active in the ring, and training sessions are regular.

Maybe a disadvantage for Thurman but he is an experienced boxer. I know he already knows what to do and already working on his strengthening since this fight was announced.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on January 30, 2022, 02:56:19 PM

Quote from: mirakal on January 30, 2022, 01:27:31 PM

Thurman's boxing experience can speak of that, he's still a pretty decent fighter even if he rested for a couple of years and he still can be lethal if Barrios will underestimate him or lower his guard for a bit. Though, we can't ignore the fact that Thurman was inactive but we'll see how will he cope for that because we know that there's some effect for being inactive. We'll see it soon!

Agree, Thurman is still a dangerous fighter even though he has been out for two years now and for me Thurman has the advantage on this fight because this is his weight while Barrios is not yet too comfortable in this division.

I'm for Keith Thurman this weekend but with his inactivity for a long time i would go for that "Thurman by decision" @2.60, that is not bad at all.

I'll go with the higher odds, it's Thurman by KO.

Although he was inactive for years, I still believe he did not change and he is still a very dangerous fighter.
Barrios lost to Davis via TKO, so it's not impossible that he will lose in the same fashion against Thurman.

Win or lose that bet of mine is final.

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Quote from: mirakal on January 30, 2022, 01:27:31 PM

Thurman's boxing experience can speak of that, he's still a pretty decent fighter even if he rested for a couple of years and he still can be lethal if Barrios will underestimate him or lower his guard for a bit. Though, we can't ignore the fact that Thurman was inactive but we'll see how will he cope for that because we know that there's some effect for being inactive. We'll see it soon!

Agree, Thurman is still a dangerous fighter even though he has been out for two years now and for me Thurman has the advantage on this fight because this is his weight while Barrios is not yet too comfortable in this division.

I'm for Keith Thurman this weekend but with his inactivity for a long time i would go for that "Thurman by decision" @2.60, that is not bad at all.

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Quote from: robelneo on January 29, 2022, 06:16:04 PM

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Quote from: Russlenat on January 29, 2022, 04:01:49 AM

Yes, Keith Thurman is 33 years old but I doubt that he can still dance well in the ring considering that he was inactive for almost 3 years but we'll see if he still got what it takes to redeem his name or is it time to hang up his gloves as he's nowhere to go. Barrios on the other hand, had professional fights every year so I guess it's quite safe to say that Thurman will just be a stepping stone to a 26 years old Barrios.

There's only one way to find out, we will know that soon as they will fight. I think he can still dance but maybe there's an effect on his inactivity but he is still a decent fighter, and there's a reason why he is the favorite to win this fight.

33 years old is still a good age for boxers it is actually a ripe age, the 3 years of inactivity will have an impact, he needs a good conditioning coach and tough sparring partners to get into great shape like when he is active three years ago, Thurman is good at picking a comeback opponent, he chooses a fighter who just got knocked out and easily intimidated Thurman knows his weakness because it was very evident in the Gervonta fight.

While times are changing and thanks to new therapies and medical knowledge athletes are finding ways to extend their careers way past their physical prime while retaining most of their skills even at an advanced age, at the same time this is something that is only possible for those that are at the very top in terms of performance, like Manny Pacquiao, while even good boxers will begin to decline way faster, and if to this we add the inactivity due to the pandemic then the reduction in their skills can be even faster.

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Quote from: Obito on January 30, 2022, 12:59:07 AM

Quote from: chaser15 on January 28, 2022, 06:58:21 PM

Of course both boxers will do everything to win. We should not stay confident that Thurman will win just because of records.

If others don't know, other analyst thinks that Thurman is already rust. Barrios on the other hand is active and given with a chance that he can win on this fight against the former champion, Thurman.

That's bad for Thurman that many analysts think that he is rusty and that many are siding on Barrios against him which isn't nothing to be surprised, we always want fresh and active fighters more than those who rest. But at the end of the day, we don't know what's going to happen next, maybe the ring rust for Thurman isn't that heavy so we might still see a decent match against Barrios.

Thurman's boxing experience can speak of that, he's still a pretty decent fighter even if he rested for a couple of years and he still can be lethal if Barrios will underestimate him or lower his guard for a bit. Though, we can't ignore the fact that Thurman was inactive but we'll see how will he cope for that because we know that there's some effect for being inactive. We'll see it soon!

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Quote from: carlisle1 on January 30, 2022, 08:50:09 AM

Quote from: Dave1 on January 29, 2022, 11:49:54 PM

Yeah, and that's why it is a different fight for Barrios to move up in a division and then faces one of the best. So all advantage is on Thurman here, it's that how he will execute that in order to win. So it could be that Thurman will go out in the beginning and not give Barrios a chance and make him feel the power of a true welterweight. Or Barrios goes up against Thurman and test if he still has it or not. Could be more damaging to Thurman's career if he losses against a new comer in the division and he is not getting old. A huge pay check against Ugas or Spence will go in the drain if he losses in this fight.

Pride in a former champ who is trying to rebuild his old glory, Thurman is more on a mission here, it will damage his career if he loses this one.

If he's aiming for higher paycheck and another opportunity to fight against the current champs, he needs to accomplish this first.

Barrios may give him a good fight as he is desiring to make his name from this new division, very interesting to see if who will take this one.

Between the two, it looks like Barrios is more motivated that he did decide to move up to a new division after his loss last year while Thurman sit back for two years. Although it's not the basis for who will win, it stimulates the willingness to win all the way. Winning this match will just be an incentive if any of them get the shot to fight Spence or Crawford.

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Quote from: Dave1 on January 29, 2022, 11:49:54 PM

Yeah, and that's why it is a different fight for Barrios to move up in a division and then faces one of the best. So all advantage is on Thurman here, it's that how he will execute that in order to win. So it could be that Thurman will go out in the beginning and not give Barrios a chance and make him feel the power of a true welterweight. Or Barrios goes up against Thurman and test if he still has it or not. Could be more damaging to Thurman's career if he losses against a new comer in the division and he is not getting old. A huge pay check against Ugas or Spence will go in the drain if he losses in this fight.

Pride in a former champ who is trying to rebuild his old glory, Thurman is more on a mission here, it will damage his career if he loses this one.

If he's aiming for higher paycheck and another opportunity to fight against the current champs, he needs to accomplish this first.

Barrios may give him a good fight as he is desiring to make his name from this new division, very interesting to see if who will take this one.

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Quote from: Obito on January 30, 2022, 12:59:07 AM

Quote from: chaser15 on January 28, 2022, 06:58:21 PM

Of course both boxers will do everything to win. We should not stay confident that Thurman will win just because of records.

If others don't know, other analyst thinks that Thurman is already rust. Barrios on the other hand is active and given with a chance that he can win on this fight against the former champion, Thurman.

That's bad for Thurman that many analysts think that he is rusty and that many are siding on Barrios against him which isn't nothing to be surprised, we always want fresh and active fighters more than those who rest. But at the end of the day, we don't know what's going to happen next, maybe the ring rust for Thurman isn't that heavy so we might still see a decent match against Barrios.

Or it's just a good way to bring interest with this fight, analyst are just giving opinions and even they've got upper knowledge about this sport, it's still the fans and the gamblers who will put their money at stake. I still see the advantage from Thurman as he is more familiar and more experienced, having 31 fights and only 1 loss before deciding to rest for some time, while Barrios got 27 fights and also has 1 loss, but in a much lower division.

Thurman decides to take this fight, probably he's aiming for something big.

Winning this one will give him opportunities to take another shot and regain his former position..

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Quote from: Obito on January 30, 2022, 12:59:07 AM

Quote from: chaser15 on January 28, 2022, 06:58:21 PM

Of course both boxers will do everything to win. We should not stay confident that Thurman will win just because of records.

If others don't know, other analyst thinks that Thurman is already rust. Barrios on the other hand is active and given with a chance that he can win on this fight against the former champion, Thurman.

That's bad for Thurman that many analysts think that he is rusty and that many are siding on Barrios against him which isn't nothing to be surprised, we always want fresh and active fighters more than those who rest. But at the end of the day, we don't know what's going to happen next, maybe the ring rust for Thurman isn't that heavy so we might still see a decent match against Barrios.

But the thing is the odds favor on Thurman, not Barrios... so we can say the crowded are still believing Thurman and the analyst doesn't have a lot impact. Though 2 years inactive isn't good, it's questionable why does he took a break after losing from Pacquiao and what does he activities for 2 years. He's still in prime age and he should achieving more titles instead of fight rarely.

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Quote from: chaser15 on January 28, 2022, 06:58:21 PM

Of course both boxers will do everything to win. We should not stay confident that Thurman will win just because of records.

If others don't know, other analyst thinks that Thurman is already rust. Barrios on the other hand is active and given with a chance that he can win on this fight against the former champion, Thurman.

That's bad for Thurman that many analysts think that he is rusty and that many are siding on Barrios against him which isn't nothing to be surprised, we always want fresh and active fighters more than those who rest. But at the end of the day, we don't know what's going to happen next, maybe the ring rust for Thurman isn't that heavy so we might still see a decent match against Barrios.

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Quote from: Japinat on January 29, 2022, 08:21:59 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on January 29, 2022, 04:01:49 AM

Yes, Keith Thurman is 33 years old but I doubt that he can still dance well in the ring considering that he was inactive for almost 3 years but we'll see if he still got what it takes to redeem his name or is it time to hang up his gloves as he's nowhere to go. Barrios on the other hand, had professional fights every year so I guess it's quite safe to say that Thurman will just be a stepping stone to a 26 years old Barrios.

There's only one way to find out, we will know that soon as they will fight. I think he can still dance but maybe there's an effect on his inactivity but he is still a decent fighter, and there's a reason why he is the favorite to win this fight.

Lol of course we will see what will happen after the fight , and Thurman might not active in social media updates but for sure he constantly practice even when in break so surely he will give Barrios a great fight this time .
I remember when Manny Pacquiao Beats Keith Thurman , with his bad mouthing before the fight but see what happens to His face after the fight lol.
this will be a good fight because both of them are a great boxer in their division.

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Quote from: judeafante on January 29, 2022, 11:15:58 PM

Quote from: AmoreJaz on January 29, 2022, 06:58:22 PM

we have no idea what preparation or training has been going on in thurman's camp. we can only tell once both are inside the ring. but for now, we can only speculate what may possibly happen. thurman, being 33, for me is not old inside the ring. and we also don't know how he is sustaining his shape throughout those inactive years.
but if thurman can pull off this fight, we know that there will be bigger fights coming. only few days from now, and we will witness another exciting battle inside the ring.

Probably rough training so he can go back to his old deadly form if he can get back to his old deadly form, Barrios could be in big trouble I have seen him in his Gervonta fight and I'm not impressed with how he fought he cannot take a big punch, what more from Thurman who comes from a much heavier category, both fighters cannot afford a loss because it will be two in a row.

Yeah, and that's why it is a different fight for Barrios to move up in a division and then faces one of the best. So all advantage is on Thurman here, it's that how he will execute that in order to win. So it could be that Thurman will go out in the beginning and not give Barrios a chance and make him feel the power of a true welterweight. Or Barrios goes up against Thurman and test if he still has it or not. Could be more damaging to Thurman's career if he losses against a new comer in the division and he is not getting old. A huge pay check against Ugas or Spence will go in the drain if he losses in this fight.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on January 29, 2022, 06:58:22 PM

we have no idea what preparation or training has been going on in thurman's camp. we can only tell once both are inside the ring. but for now, we can only speculate what may possibly happen. thurman, being 33, for me is not old inside the ring. and we also don't know how he is sustaining his shape throughout those inactive years.
but if thurman can pull off this fight, we know that there will be bigger fights coming. only few days from now, and we will witness another exciting battle inside the ring.

Probably rough training so he can go back to his old deadly form if he can get back to his old deadly form, Barrios could be in big trouble I have seen him in his Gervonta fight and I'm not impressed with how he fought he cannot take a big punch, what more from Thurman who comes from a much heavier category, both fighters cannot afford a loss because it will be two in a row.

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Quote from: Oilacris on January 29, 2022, 06:51:17 PM

Barrios could possibly beat up Thurman on this fight but it wouldnt be an assurance.Stats wise they are really close to each other thats why its hard to make out decisions.

I cant say either who's going to win on this fight. This will be competitive since both came from a lost. Its their chance to prove and redeem themselves.

Quote from: AmoreJaz on January 29, 2022, 06:58:22 PM

but if thurman can pull off this fight, we know that there will be bigger fights coming. only few days from now, and we will witness another exciting battle inside the ring.

Thats true. If that happened its a great opportunity for him after the past years that he is not active. Thurman certainly prepared for this so lets see who will dominate the ring.

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Quote from: Oilacris on January 29, 2022, 06:51:17 PM

Quote from: Japinat on January 29, 2022, 08:21:59 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on January 29, 2022, 04:01:49 AM

Yes, Keith Thurman is 33 years old but I doubt that he can still dance well in the ring considering that he was inactive for almost 3 years but we'll see if he still got what it takes to redeem his name or is it time to hang up his gloves as he's nowhere to go. Barrios on the other hand, had professional fights every year so I guess it's quite safe to say that Thurman will just be a stepping stone to a 26 years old Barrios.

There's only one way to find out, we will know that soon as they will fight. I think he can still dance but maybe there's an effect on his inactivity but he is still a decent fighter, and there's a reason why he is the favorite to win this fight.

Keith might have no fights on past 3 years but doesnt mean that he had forgotten on maintaining his shape? Of course there would be some differences but if he didnt really pass nor get confident

about his body condition or built then i dont really see much difference.Yes, he's already 33 but this one could still be kicking but we cant really remove the probabilities that

Barrios could possibly beat up Thurman on this fight but it wouldnt be an assurance.Stats wise they are really close to each other thats why its hard to make out decisions.

we have no idea what preparation or training has been going on in thurman's camp. we can only tell once both are inside the ring. but for now, we can only speculate what may possibly happen. thurman, being 33, for me is not old inside the ring. and we also don't know how he is sustaining his shape throughout those inactive years.
but if thurman can pull off this fight, we know that there will be bigger fights coming. only few days from now, and we will witness another exciting battle inside the ring.

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Quote from: Japinat on January 29, 2022, 08:21:59 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on January 29, 2022, 04:01:49 AM

Yes, Keith Thurman is 33 years old but I doubt that he can still dance well in the ring considering that he was inactive for almost 3 years but we'll see if he still got what it takes to redeem his name or is it time to hang up his gloves as he's nowhere to go. Barrios on the other hand, had professional fights every year so I guess it's quite safe to say that Thurman will just be a stepping stone to a 26 years old Barrios.

There's only one way to find out, we will know that soon as they will fight. I think he can still dance but maybe there's an effect on his inactivity but he is still a decent fighter, and there's a reason why he is the favorite to win this fight.

Keith might have no fights on past 3 years but doesnt mean that he had forgotten on maintaining his shape? Of course there would be some differences but if he didnt really pass nor get confident

about his body condition or built then i dont really see much difference.Yes, he's already 33 but this one could still be kicking but we cant really remove the probabilities that

Barrios could possibly beat up Thurman on this fight but it wouldnt be an assurance.Stats wise they are really close to each other thats why its hard to make out decisions.

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