Topic: [Boxing]: Vasiliy Lomachenko vs Jamaine Ortiz - October 29 - page 9. (Read 5797 times)

This will be his tune-up fight against Haney because I believe Haney will eventually prevail against Kambosos in their rematch and he has a good tune fight against Ortiz, the Loma - Haney is the fight that we all want to happen and hopefully, they will not fail the boxing community's expectation, there are a lot of great fights happening now and making the fight happen between the two is good for the boxing community, and for everybody's pocket as well.

Emotionally, this could be hard for Loma, we've known him for fighting in his native land and that's why the initial schedule of him fighting Kambosos didn't happen. But after that, his people push him to make a comeback, just like what Usyk did winning against AJ in a tough battle.

But I'm not seeing Loma getting into trouble in this fight. This is not his fight time to make a comeback, maybe there could be ring rust, but he can shake it right away and then be back at the old Loma that we know.

That's why he has a lot of fans because he does not choose his opponent, he is ready to fight anyone, including Lopez who beats him once. I believe winning this fight is not gonna be hard for him, the hardest will be his upcoming match with Haney if that plan will be realize.

Honestly, Loma is a boxer who can expect anything, we are used to seeing the great knockouts he can give, this will be very interesting, because Ortiz knows these things and will try to prevent this from happening, however I think he can be training much harder focused on his resistance because the question is knowing how to withstand the gale of blows that Loma is going to leave, many will bet on him for his explosiveness and they will have many emotions, but if Ortiz stands up well and contains him, I think he will make him enter the field of him and little by little he will make him fall into his trap, boxing at this point is very focused on strategy, what I don't like about a fight is when they go to the technical level.


From what you say, apparently Loma is a boxer who is very complete and to recover from an injury as delicate as that of the shoulders is something very epic, honestly the strength of every boxer, fighter is in the shoulders, besides that it is it is very necessary to be 100% there, for me Ortiz is a boxer who really wants to win, I see him quiet, but hungry to have a win against a big man, I don't know how good it is for Loma, but I think he Ortiz will give him much more to talk about and will continue to open doors for him, of course Loma is a boxer with more strategy, I don't think he is going to get an entry knockout, I think he will wait and see what is the best strategy to follow as Ortiz shows.

^^ Loma has already proven that even if he is out for sometime his mentality and skills are still the same. When he had that shoulder injury he had operated, and for a year he doesn't have a fight because he needs to recuperate. And then when he comes back, he didn't choose any easier fight, it was against Nakatani who gave Lopez his biggest test before he beat Loma. and then he followed it up with a destruction of former champion Richard Commey. So we should expect the same if not the best version of Loma in this fight, as he is about to hit his peak performance at his age right now. I'm not seeing any ring rust that will put him in danger in this fight.

I can agree to you, Loma's skills even he was out for some time can still have an upper hand against Ortiz, while with Haney and Kambosos, both are eager to win. Though we have seen how Haney beats Kambosos before and he still has that advantage, and maybe if in case Kambosos disappoints Haney, we might see a trilogy between these two champs before we will see Loma fighting whoever wins that trilogy.

We never know what are the plans coming from their promoters but everything will depend on what will be the results of their upcoming fights.

That's true! Haney will be much tested by Loma if their fight will really happen soon enough and the fight will not be boring to see anymore because of the latter's technicalities that will likely make the undisputed boxer struggle. That will be a sight that I wanted to see!

But for now, both of them still have their own respective fight that needs to be won by both camps so that their fight will be inevitable. However, I believe Loma won't have a hard time defeating Ortiz as this fight is likely a tune-up for Loma before he face Haney.

Well, we cannot really blame them because that is their game plan in-order to have a pretty record and Lomachenko is 11 years older than his future opponent, Devin Haney. Don't tell me there is still a complain about this? Both sides have their own respective advantage that's why this future fight is exciting to see even if we know that it is still a possibility to happen.

That is true but Mayweather cannot deny that he was still struggling at that time even though he fought a much older Pacquiao, what more if the fight happened years early, right? But then Mayweather have a lot of reasons why the rematch didn't materialized because he knows that he might get his record scathed if the rematch had happened.

We don't know how good they really are until we've seen them inside the ring. I'm curious about Magdaleno beating

one of the legendary champs is something that his opponent needs to consider while preparing for their fight, he got something that

Ramirez needs to anticipate, though maybe after that absence there are lots of changes from his routine.

on the other note, Loma is expected to bring something here to impress his fans and create more good news to his comeback.

Robeisy Ramirez is making a name for himself, so it will be a good test for him to fight Magdaleno, although the latter seems to be out of his prime already or maybe just like the rest of the boxers during the pandemic, they have their "mental issues" and they could be his comeback fight like Danny Garcia is. So it's good to see him back and the co-card in Loma vs Ortiz.

I am glad that both Lomachenko and Haney seem to be interested in fighting each other in the case both of them can beat their respective opponents.

Fans of boxing all over the world have complained for decades about promoters or even boxers themselves avoiding fights and as such denying fans to see the best fighters going at each other at all or at their prime, and I think one of the best examples of this was the fight between Floyd and Pacquiao, eventually it happened but it was nowhere near as exciting as it could be if they could fought during their prime.

So far, Loma fights are exciting. Haney's, not really. But Loma would probably be the one who will dictate this fight's tempo and pace.

In boxing, it is often true that as a boxer ages and matures, the earliest rounds are used to somehow feel and measure the opponent. It's so much unlike young and very hungry fighters who are so aggressive that it seems they would want to rush things and finish everything as soon as the fight starts.

Unanimous decisions or winning by points is not necessarily boring. It's just that there are boxers who are not that gifted in terms of punching power. But it doesn't mean they're not beautiful to watch.

Techniques, strategies, skills, ring IQ, in-fight adjustments, etc are sometimes more exciting to observe in a fight. A plain slugfest or a fight which only relies on a 1-hit punch bingo is sometimes more boring. 

I also don't prefer boring rounds. Slow paced boxing fights aren't my thing. I prefer aggressive, but calculated fights between opponents because it excites me and gives me the thrill. Because when an aggressive match is set on the ring, it is always surprising and worthwhile to watch. You'll never know when the opponent would land a strong jab against the other that could cause the other's fall for possible knockout. It's just so exhilarating to watch the aggressiveness of each to score a point and get the round on their side while exhibiting the art of strikes and footwork combined.

Although a continuous fight is surely tiring on their part, so it isn't really advisable on their end to continually exert effort and strength because it will just drain their energy which could give and opportunity and an opening weakness to the opponent they could take advantage from. This could be the reason why some trainers tell their handle to go slow at first and familiarize the opponent's style and strategy before going all out so that the effort and energy exerted won't be put into waste.

Hopefully, these boxers will showcase us one of the bests of their moves. Their fight has still over a month to commence, so they still have a lot of days to prepare and get ready. Definitely they will be pursuing to bring home the bacon and move forward with boxing careers.

Often times when a fight last for 12 rounds the early rounds start slow and boring.  I just hope the fight would be exciting from rounds 1 to 12.  I would rather have a 1st round knockout than a boring 12-round fight. 


I hope that would be the case, continuous adjustment with a frequent tactical exchange of blows every round.  Not the one I am thinking of when I heard about adjustment and strategy which often ends in both boxers waiting for an opportunity to counter making them idle for almost the entire round.


Donaire fell in love with 1 shot knock out during their fight so Donaire failed to do a combination in this fight and as expected Donaire lost to him since the majority of Donaire's losses are when he go after for 1 KO punch which make him forget to do combination attacks.

So far here is the undercard in this fight:

Robeisy Ramirez (10-1, 6 KO) vs  Jessie Magdaleno (29-1, 18 KO)

And Richard Torrez Jr who is also scheduled to fight, but his opponents is still TBA. Magdaleno used to be a great fighter in is prime, he defeated Nonito Donaire, but for unknown reasons, he stay out of the limelight and even turn down a fight against Emmanuel Navarette.

At last! We are given an another big fight that will be exciting to see in the future after this because frankly, I'm not that excited anymore to see the outcome in this rematch because Haney will still be likely win and there's no denying that his chances in winning are much more higher than Kambosos's chances. And now that Loma is set to fight Haney if both will win in their respective fights, the people are already excited about the fact and cannot wait to see them dancing together in the ring.

What I love about this possible match is that this might last for 12 rounds. If it goes the distance, which it most probably will, it would be a terrible show of technical boxing skills, in-fight adjustments, etc. This is a great match not in a way that we will be at the edge of our seats anticipating that somebody would fall down on the canvas any moment but in a way that every opportunity to make a point is going to be very precious.

Loma steps up if he fight a defensive boxer, like you said in the Rigo fight. He is highly technical that not even Rigo's defensive skills can stop his offensive. He knows now to counter angels that a defensive fighter looks for because of his footwork.

So his goal is to really be un-disputed and the only way is to get the belt from either Haney or Kambosos. But it's likely that Haney will defend his belt against the rematch.

Haney if fitted against another counter-puncher then expect that to be a boring fight but not with a very technical Lomachenco as what you have said. That would be an exciting fight and I have Loma to emerge as the victor because he has the power in both hands. Just look at what he did to Rigo when they meet, the latter has nowhere to hide and as a result, retires on his stool in that fight.

Loma vs Haney is the fight everyone is waiting for but Loma needs to take care first of Ortiz and Haney to defeat Kambosos as well.

They said that Haney is a boring fight, well, I would say he would not be able to play safe against a technical Loma, because if he has speed, Loma has quickness as well and not only that, he is also very precise in throwing his punches. I'm sure everyone here can't wait to see this fight so we will know the winner, and if it's Loma, there's a chance that they will fight early next year if Haney will beat Kambosos again.