Topic: [Boxing]: Vasiliy Lomachenko vs Jamaine Ortiz - October 29 - page 5. (Read 5743 times)

Right, and this is considered to be his "second" comeback fight, remember that he got injured and then makes a huge statement comeback win against Nakatani and then Comney. And the war started and he served his country. And now amidst the war in the background, he decided to come back like his fellow Ukrainian Usyk and fight in the ring once more. I'm seeing either Haney or Kambosos in his next fight assuming he win here.

Loma has been an entertaining boxer all these years and for him to fight Ortiz in his comeback is the best decision for his team because he really needs warm up if he wants to get ready for a big fish next fight. Let's just hope he will gonna finish this quick in the early rounds without getting injured or something like that, in order for him to get a quick fight in the first quarter of next year. Who might be his next potential opponent when he is done with this one?

Yes, style wise, I think Haney will be a big challenge for Loma and we will see that both of this great boxers will elevated their game if they wanted to win big in they collide in the future.

And again, Loma could be the favorite but I still think the Haney will have a lot of backers in this fight. So it will be like 60/40 in favor of Loma and I wouldn't be surprised if the odds turns out to be 50/50 as well.

Yes, I will give Loma the experience as well as he has face a better resume as compare to Haney although they could have the same opponents, I remember at least one but I forget the boxers name right now.

So yes it's a rumor but we can base our speculation or their style as both of them are on the top of this division. And even if Haney is somewhat boring as compare to others like the explosive of Tank and the hype of Ryan Garcia, still for boxing fans, Haney vs Loma is the one that we want to happen in the future.

That is why we believed that their future fight will be interesting to see because we think that Lomachenko might be the one who will give the current undisputed boxer a hard time but as of now, that will remain as a speculation and a rumor as we haven't saw them sharing a ring yet.

Yes, that is what I believe. Loma was indeed good but that was before the war broke and we can't say yet if that same war took some toll on his performance given the situation that he was also inactive during those time. Ortiz here have a big challenge to do as fans on other side are just viewing him as a mere tune-up fight for Loma's future fight and he's still undefeated while Loma have nothing to lose because he was defeated twice already.

After this fight, we can answer all our questions and the scenario you gave above is indeed possible. If for the glory, his camp will surely aim for the undisputed boxer but on the business/money side, they will wait for the other boxers who are next in rank to fight him.

Mostly a bias comments since most of us here knows how Loma was and fighting against someone who we think not at in the same level like Loma, it's understandable that fans will go to his side, but you are correct we haven't seen him fight for quite some time and this upcoming one might be a good ticket to impress the fans and to have that good opportunities to challenge the belt holder.

But what else we can expect once he wins this fight, the call for negotiation between champion's camp will be the target.

On the money side, promoters will wait for the fans to actively call for the potential next upcoming fights.

Loma started slow during his fight against Teofimo Lopez and was too late when he shows his skills.  I believe Loma has some injury back then but I know it shouldn't be used as a reason.  Though I wonder what will happen if Loma and Kambosos fight wasn't canceled.  I am inclined to think that Loma might have an advantage against Kambosos since Loma will see through those gaps of Kabosos' offense and can take advantage of it.



Rumors said that the style of Loma is good enough to beat Haney but of course, that is just a rumor and needs to be proven in the ring. 

He is already on the championship form after being defeated by Teofimo Lopez, He made two great comeback fights already, and he is on the verge of getting the belts that he has lost by fighting Kambosos but it was then cancelled.


Same with you, I will still have Loma to win, but it will be a very tough fight because Haney too is great and have the skills. But Loma's ring IQ and experience and this variety of arsenals might be hard for Haney to counter and offset.

Record though doesn't speak as to how good or bad the opponents you have faced before, so you have like 50-0 but just facing all level b or level c fighters like Chavez jr. But when they step up and fighting real boxers, they will suffer their first lost and then they are being exposed as just pure hype.

So the burden is on Ortiz, undefeated as compare to Loma who have lost to Salido early and then in recent to Teo Lopez. And we know what Loma can bring in the table and so he is our favorite to win again even though Ortiz hasn't lost.

In the same sense, we are already underestimating Jamaine Ortiz here, I mean it's undeniable that he have almost no chance against the veteran Loma but the kid got pretty decent record to begin with. This is indeed a good warm-up and a good challenge for Loma to see if he's already back in his old form. Talking about Loma-Haney is quite premature as of this moment as we are still observing how will Loma perform this time, maybe after the fight, we will weigh things for Loma and Haney, and who got the upper hand.

That is natural because if the boxer is getting popular then that means his promoter will get more money from the fights, I'd say that it is also the boxer's right to demand a much higher share than what they agreed and if not then it may be best for the boxer to move in other promoter once their contract ends.

We talking advance that Lomachenko's hands will be raised in this fight. Sounds realistic too because Loma is special. But even if we are confident of a Loma victory, we want to see if he is back to his championship form.

If Loma is back to his championship form. Who is your bet between Loma and Haney? Are you still confident that Loma can be victorious over the younger champion who owns all the belts?

Yeah, and most likely his next fight will be either against a very worthy opponent on Devin Haney or George Kambosos. George Kambosos beat Teo Lopez who beat Loma. But Haney beat Kambosos and this is their rematch. So he will have a chance to get back his belt technically. And so this could be just a warm up for him and show us that he still the champion in this division.

A warmed up that might hype him back, I'm still interested to how he will going to be finish this fight and if there's new fighting style that he will bring during the fight, like most of us are saying that Loma in this fight got a decent advantage compared with his opponent and even the fight is not over yet there are a lot of rumors and speculation about who will be his next opponent.

Less than a month now and we will see another good fighter to be inside the ring after some time. Expectations are everywhere for Loma and for sure he won't disappoint his fans as he's making his way back to earn a title.

You don't need to ask that for him because we know Loma, he is a great boxer and he is always an entertaining boxer to watch. In fact, I'm more interested on his next fight as this fight is just probably his warm up before a big fight which could happen this year.

^ Yes, same expectation as others, he should be showing us a good performance in this comeback fight. We missed him already when he involved himself to protect his homeland. But it's time that he goes back fighting against like his compatriot in Usyk. So if he wins by knockout or a complete shut out of Ortiz in the judges card, I'm not going to be surprised as this is the Loma that we are familiar since he become a champion.

That is expected because there are indeed lots of perks if you're someone who made so much noise in the boxing industry or any sports industries. We have Golden Boy Promotions, MP Promotions and Mayweather promotions and other known fighters across every combat sport, and of course there will be a lot of fighters who will shelter in the respective promotions because they know that they are in the good hands. Maybe we can see soon some additional promotions after these active fighters will retire.


I also expect that Loma will give a spectacular performance on his fans after being inactive for quite some time, the industry and fans missed him, now that he is again doing some fights, I'm sure that there will be lots of people who will watch this comeback. Apart from that, I'm expecting a win in his favor.

Wow bro, you couldn't have said it better, for me too when a boxer manages to overcome everything he has experienced in his career, including losses and comes back and manages to win, for me it is a deserved victory, also the good work, the effort and the dedication he puts into it is very high, so he has the right to win, especially in boxing, when he trains a lot and with a lot of discipline, for me the boxer undoubtedly wins, for me everything is there, if he prepares well will win, because the body gets used to the stress it is subjected to, the more pressure the harder it is, the more blows are resisted with greater ease, of course not blows that are to areas that are sensitive, because anyone can be knocked out, but hard training helps a lot.


I would also like to see those moments of glory like when they say that Pacquiao used to defend, now we see very different things, we also see a lot of publicity, marketing that has a lot of hierarchy with respect to what they can do, and this is undoubtedly aimed at what what we call the great business model that is generated, we have seen many fights and we know that many are given by interests of the boxing federation, and that obviously there is associated money and the boxers are also interested in this money, otherwise we will what Mayweather is doing right now, he's in the boxing business despite.

Usually fighters would only demand high if they are already popular, but they need to think on how the promoters are investing them when they are still starting, that's a debt of gratitude although we call it business, we have different views though that's just like a boxer is different from other boxers.