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legendary
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One point that I think is an advantage of holding several games/competitions at the state level is that small clubs in the interior may have more chances of reaching the "Serie A", for example, because if it were a competition at the national level, hardly a small team and with limited resources, he will be able to reach the Serie A of a national championship.

But that won't solve the small club's problem - lack of money.
It is true that being in "Serie A" will bring more money, but it will also have more expenses, as in longer trips.
This in turn would lower the competitive levels of "series A", which could further solidify the big clubs.

I had a colleague, who played for the amateur club, in the lower division. When we talked about what their goal was for the season, he replied that it was second. I asked why. The answer was that if they get first, they will go up in division and that will increase expenses that would cost the club more money, which would no longer be viable.
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probably easier to organize a big championship with the whole country than many small ones within it
just because you need a min number of teams to be able to make it happen

like, how many? maybe 12? 8 if we really push it...
a small country may have 8 pro teams, 4 coming from the south and 4 coming from the north, let's say...
So @Lucasgabd I believe this is a point to be discussed.
I believe in this case a "Brasileirão" or "Copa do Brasil" would be better
Regarding restricted competitions at the state level, each state will have to organize its competitions and with that, we will possibly have some unbalanced games between a team from the southeast/south than one in the northeast.

One point that I think is an advantage of holding several games/competitions at the state level is that small clubs in the interior may have more chances of reaching the "Serie A", for example, because if it were a competition at the national level, hardly a small team and with limited resources, he will be able to reach the Serie A of a national championship.
legendary
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yes, exactly this
that's why we end up having more championships like that only in big countries or between countries and it may be hard to make regional ones...

And in Europe, the style of football is different, and the big clubs are not interested in doing this type of competition.
For example, England, which is a country that has many football clubs, and is even a very competitive football in all divisions, does not have regionals involving large clubs.
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There's no need to be upset
probably easier to organize a big championship with the whole country than many small ones within it
just because you need a min number of teams to be able to make it happen

like, how many? maybe 12? 8 if we really push it...
a small country may have 8 pro teams, 4 coming from the south and 4 coming from the north, let's say...

I give the example of Portugal again, which even has several professional teams and has been in the first division for a long time.
But then the dispute for victory is only between three clubs, which are considered the big ones, and sometimes a fourth club tries to fight. In the last 20 years, not counting last year, only two different teams have won the national championship.
This makes it difficult to have more competitions.

yes, exactly this
that's why we end up having more championships like that only in big countries or between countries and it may be hard to make regional ones...
legendary
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probably easier to organize a big championship with the whole country than many small ones within it
just because you need a min number of teams to be able to make it happen

like, how many? maybe 12? 8 if we really push it...
a small country may have 8 pro teams, 4 coming from the south and 4 coming from the north, let's say...

I give the example of Portugal again, which even has several professional teams and has been in the first division for a long time.
But then the dispute for victory is only between three clubs, which are considered the big ones, and sometimes a fourth club tries to fight. In the last 20 years, not counting last year, only two different teams have won the national championship.
This makes it difficult to have more competitions.
legendary
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There's no need to be upset
This model could only be applied in large countries and with a significant number of clubs per region, otherwise it would become extremely unbalanced and without great spectacle.

I also have this idea, that Palmeiras, Flamengo and Atletico MG are the main candidates. But this is perhaps a vision of someone outside Brazil.
Yes this is true.
But I believe that maybe there is a way to make this event possible in small countries, it could be by regions, for example, a championship between teams in the south of the country, a championship in the north, among other possibilities.

probably easier to organize a big championship with the whole country than many small ones within it
just because you need a min number of teams to be able to make it happen

like, how many? maybe 12? 8 if we really push it...
a small country may have 8 pro teams, 4 coming from the south and 4 coming from the north, let's say...
legendary
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Yes this is true.
But I believe that maybe there is a way to make this event possible in small countries, it could be by regions, for example, a championship between teams in the south of the country, a championship in the north, among other possibilities.

Even so, it can easily become an unbalanced turner.

For example, in Portugal, a mid-season tournament was created, with the aim of trying to get smaller clubs to have greater visibility and even have more chances of winning, since it is not a tournament of great interest to big clubs. Even so, over the 15 editions, only 2 small clubs won once, another medium club won 2 times, and the rest were won between two big clubs.

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Does a foreign coach have more knowledge to pass on to the team and the ability to win a championship?

I think it can bring other views of the game and approach, especially European coaches, as they theoretically see themselves as "better".
On the other hand, it also has more challenges, as they are unaware of the Brazilian championship, they have to adapt well so that they can combine the knowledge they have with the Brazilian championship.

In the case of the Portuguese, they are the 4 excellent coaches and they all coached the biggest clubs in Portugal and beyond.

I agree, a foreign coach has new ideas and manages other styles of football, but it is somewhat difficult, since the Brazilian teams have really tough and attack-focused football, just watching Palmeiras play is reason enough to give fear of any other team, in the Copa Libertadores de América the teams that shine the most are the Brazilians, of course also the Argentines, but I think that in Brazil not only because of its league is that it is so great but because of its players, we cannot forget that Neymar Jr came from there, from a Brazilian league of another level, so a coach who could make a difference for me would be a European one (without underestimating any other)
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This model could only be applied in large countries and with a significant number of clubs per region, otherwise it would become extremely unbalanced and without great spectacle.

I also have this idea, that Palmeiras, Flamengo and Atletico MG are the main candidates. But this is perhaps a vision of someone outside Brazil.
Yes this is true.
But I believe that maybe there is a way to make this event possible in small countries, it could be by regions, for example, a championship between teams in the south of the country, a championship in the north, among other possibilities.
legendary
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This model could only be applied in large countries and with a significant number of clubs per region, otherwise it would become extremely unbalanced and without great spectacle.

I also have this idea, that Palmeiras, Flamengo and Atletico MG are the main candidates. But this is perhaps a vision of someone outside Brazil.

It's work for large country with a huge number of teams
As you guys know, Brazil have tons of teams, this is the country of soccer  Cheesy
Just an example, here in my state, São Paulo, we have 84 professional teams registered and in activity, playing regular in Campeonato Paulista  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

And your vision is right, in Brazil we have the same opinion, these 3 teams are the favorite to win Brasileirão.


You are welcome!

In my opinion the favorite is Palmeiras, followed by Flamengo and Corinthians. These are the most relevant clubs on the currently moment, not only nationally, but worldwide.

Next two games between Palmeiras and Sao Paulo for the Campeonato Paulista will be also important events in order to conclude if Sao Paulo can be considered well prepared for the season.

My team of heart os Corinthians, but it's sad to say we are not the favorite this time, we lost to Sao Paulo yesterday, and was clear that our team is very old, and they were tired, it's something to worry
If Vitor Pereira wants to finish the championship in a good position, and Libertadores, he needs to find good players under 25 years to find a balance

And I agree with you, Sao paulo vs Palmeiras will be a good match to see if Sao Paulo can fight for the title in this season
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I don't think there is going to have a pre-season because there isn't enough time for that, since we are almost at the beginning of the championship. Less than two weeks to go...

Palmeiras next games, for example, are against Sao Paulo in Campeonato Paulista for the title, against Deportivo Táchira in Libertadores da America and then on April 10, against Ceará.

Thanks for the info.
There's really no time for pre-seasons. The games they play in the state championship serve to prepare the team and tactics for the season.

Which do you think are the teams that are best prepared for this season?
You are welcome!

In my opinion the favorite is Palmeiras, followed by Flamengo and Corinthians. These are the most relevant clubs on the currently moment, not only nationally, but worldwide.

Next two games between Palmeiras and Sao Paulo for the Campeonato Paulista will be also important events in order to conclude if Sao Paulo can be considered well prepared for the season.
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The state championship is a really good idea i would love to see it implemented on other countries it helps prepare the teams to the new season in my opinions three teams will be competing for the title, palmeiras atletico MG and flamengo.

This model could only be applied in large countries and with a significant number of clubs per region, otherwise it would become extremely unbalanced and without great spectacle.

I also have this idea, that Palmeiras, Flamengo and Atletico MG are the main candidates. But this is perhaps a vision of someone outside Brazil.
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When does the Brasileirão start?
Do teams before the Brasileirão do the so-called "pre-season" or is this done in state championships?
User @uneng has already answered your question.
Complementing... there is no "pre season" in the Brasileirão.
The only championships of great relevance in Brazil are the Brasileirão (national championship, but by points), the Copa do Brasil (national championship but by the "mata-mata" method).

And finally, we have the state championships... in the state of São Paulo it is known as "Paulistão"
(main teams participating are: Sao Paulo, Palmeiras, Corinthians, Santos and others)

In the Carioca championship (state of Rio Janeiro), we have Flamengo, Fluminense, Vasco

Campeonato Mineiro (state of Minas Gerais), Cruzeiro, Atlético Mineiro

Hope this helps!  Smiley
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I don't think there is going to have a pre-season because there isn't enough time for that, since we are almost at the beginning of the championship. Less than two weeks to go...

Palmeiras next games, for example, are against Sao Paulo in Campeonato Paulista for the title, against Deportivo Táchira in Libertadores da America and then on April 10, against Ceará.

Thanks for the info.
There's really no time for pre-seasons. The games they play in the state championship serve to prepare the team and tactics for the season.

Which do you think are the teams that are best prepared for this season?
The state championship is a really good idea i would love to see it implemented on other countries it helps prepare the teams to the new season in my opinions three teams will be competing for the title, palmeiras atletico MG and flamengo.
legendary
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Sunday, April 10 to Sunday, November 13.
I don't think there is going to have a pre-season because there isn't enough time for that, since we are almost at the beginning of the championship. Less than two weeks to go...

Palmeiras next games, for example, are against Sao Paulo in Campeonato Paulista for the title, against Deportivo Táchira in Libertadores da America and then on April 10, against Ceará.

Thanks for the info.
There's really no time for pre-seasons. The games they play in the state championship serve to prepare the team and tactics for the season.

Which do you think are the teams that are best prepared for this season?
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by the way, I also believe that in the Brasileirão games it will also be competitive and exciting
When does the Brasileirão start?
Do teams before the Brasileirão do the so-called "pre-season" or is this done in state championships?
Sunday, April 10 to Sunday, November 13.
I don't think there is going to have a pre-season because there isn't enough time for that, since we are almost at the beginning of the championship. Less than two weeks to go...

Palmeiras next games, for example, are against Sao Paulo in Campeonato Paulista for the title, against Deportivo Táchira in Libertadores da America and then on April 10, against Ceará.
legendary
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by the way, I also believe that in the Brasileirão games it will also be competitive and exciting

When does the Brasileirão start?
Do teams before the Brasileirão do the so-called "pre-season" or is this done in state championships?
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Well, I know it's not the main focus of this topic, but as there is a correlation, I think it's worth commenting here  Tongue

Sao Paulo beaten Corinthians in Paulistão (state championship of the state of São Paulo)

It was a great game, and on the 30/03 we will have a great duel against Palmeiras, I will be so excited to the crowd and for my favorite team (Sao Paulo) to obtain another victory!  Cool

by the way, I also believe that in the Brasileirão games it will also be competitive and exciting
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There's no need to be upset
I don't think so, FTX has betting on elections, they just change the name to call it in a fancier way: Prediction markets
and when they implemented it it was quite succesfull, a futures market for outcomes of an event
the exact same thing could be applied in this case, but with results of a soccer game instead of an election.

FTX is something else  Cheesy
I don't know how they put this "prediction" market, but FTX afaik, do everything legal and avoids to make something to risk their company.
Legally, I don't know the difference between this prediction vs sport bets legally speaking.

I happened to be unaware of this "service", let's call it that, from FTX.
But then legally, how will FTX rank? With bookmaker or as an exchange? I think this makes it difficult to grow within exchanges, sports betting.



Is there any game going on today that stands out?
Here in Europe competitions are on pause, for the national teams to play.

Like I said above to Lucasgabd, it's hard to us know the legal effects of both. Both if you look at FTX right now, there's 2 preditions markets, for Trump 2024 and Bolsonaro 2022
But this is not a regular bet where you put money and the company will pays you, it looks like a commom market like Bitcoin for example, where you have buy and sell orders, take a look guys: https://ftx.com/trade/TRUMP2024

And don't forget, there are some exchanges who blocks cryptos from gambling websites.
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yes, that's why FTX call it prediction markets
it works a bit differently than just betting directly
they do it like future markets
so you could go in and out any time you wish

it's interesting because it creates different dynamics where someone could also work with volatility regardless of final outcome (this applies more to elections than to sports since in sports there's usually a favorite team and with elections the feeling of who will gonna win may vary a lot)
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I didn't expect 9 coaches to lead 9 teams in Brazil, and specially with strongest teams
Abel Ferreira is in the best place right now, no pressure, the team is playing well, but I see another ones having to prove a lot to stay here
Vítor Pereira on Corinthians will have to work really hard to get used to the Corinthians crowd  Cheesy


I think it can bring other views of the game and approach...

Like we said before, the best point is to see and play the team with another point of view.



I lost my triple bet, and Corinthians didn't helped me  Cheesy
I won with Palmeiras and Bragantino winning but Corinthians didn't won the match, it was a draw ( and them Corinthians won in penalties )


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