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I think that the people are going to be divided into two parts about this matter. Because we will have certain people supporting the movements and some people not supporting this, you know basically how it is. Actually, I think this might seem like a very poor decision but this is going to be really helpful for the future of football in Brazil in the long run. I know it's a tradition for Brazilians but sometimes people have to move on. Not all changes are bad.

The Brazilian championship format has different characteristics from the common formats in Europe. It doesn't mean that the ones in Europe are better. But we know that Europe is where the money in football is.

If Brazil, and not only, wants to promote its football more in the old continent, it has to make some changes to the format of its competitions, to become more appealing to the fans of Europe. On the contrary, it will only attract when a European coach is in Brazil, or because of an excellent player who stands out, before arriving at a European club.
You're right, I also see it that way or as a springboard for vision for Brazilian players for Europe, 'because in Europe only the most outstanding players from Brazil play, but those who are very good but not famous?? It is for them that the opportunity may come, and since Brazil has such a strong infrastructure in terms of football, it is not surprising that it is more attractive to the world, and if a division of the league occurs, it could bring this advantage to the players.
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Recent news say Corinthians is the 7th club to hire a foreigner coach for the 2022's competition. It's going to be Vitor Pereira, a portuguese, just like Flamengo and Palmeiras' coaches, Paulo Souza and Abel Ferreira, both also portugueses. These are the only 3 european coaches so far.

I can tell you that those three coaches are good.
They did interesting work in Portugal, during their first years of career, and then went abroad, adding successes. So it is to be expected that they will also do a good job in these clubs. It will be interesting to follow your work.
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Brasileirão 2022 will be marked by a high number of foreigner coaches hired by the brazilian national clubs.

Recent news say Corinthians is the 7th club to hire a foreigner coach for the 2022's competition. It's going to be Vitor Pereira, a portuguese, just like Flamengo and Palmeiras' coaches, Paulo Souza and Abel Ferreira, both also portugueses. These are the only 3 european coaches so far.

Another clubs found their ones in neighbor countries from South America. These are the cases of Atlético-MG, Fortaleza, Internacional and Coritiba.
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Of course, money cannot be compared or competed with.
The point is that in Europe there is an idea, perhaps wrong, that the format of the Brazilian competition is complicated and a little strange. It probably isn't, but this idea creates barriers, as it were, to generate greater interest. Hence I say that the Brazilian federation should try to verify the best way to promote its football in Europe.

Currently we don't see as many players as successful in Europe as before. Perhaps for this very reason, there has gradually been less interest in observing the Brazilian championship.


I personally believe that there is no nation in the world with so many famous and fantastic footballers. Ronaldo and Pele should be called the best footballer of all time. All of the footballers have great technical and wonderful decisions making skills.
I am going to bet on Palmeiras – May the best one wins.
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Is the problem really the rules and format of the competitions?

I would say it's primarily for the money... there's no way to compare the salary of a player on a European team with a Brazilian one, that's undeniable.
And the second criterion is visibility... with rare exceptions, most likely a European player who comes to Brazil will be able to stand out to the world, no matter how good he plays.
Of course, money cannot be compared or competed with.
The point is that in Europe there is an idea, perhaps wrong, that the format of the Brazilian competition is complicated and a little strange. It probably isn't, but this idea creates barriers, as it were, to generate greater interest. Hence I say that the Brazilian federation should try to verify the best way to promote its football in Europe.

Currently we don't see as many players as successful in Europe as before. Perhaps for this very reason, there has gradually been less interest in observing the Brazilian championship.

I actually don't think that the format in the Brazilian competition is not that strange. Probably it was less appealing and someone thought this was the reason and everyone is talking about it now.

And also the reason that players are not being as successful as in Europe can obviously be a big reason for this. But I think bringing some changes could be really good at this moment. Maybe some good about the talent Hunt could also be useful.
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I think that the people are going to be divided into two parts about this matter. Because we will have certain people supporting the movements and some people not supporting this, you know basically how it is. Actually, I think this might seem like a very poor decision but this is going to be really helpful for the future of football in Brazil in the long run. I know it's a tradition for Brazilians but sometimes people have to move on. Not all changes are bad.

The Brazilian championship format has different characteristics from the common formats in Europe. It doesn't mean that the ones in Europe are better. But we know that Europe is where the money in football is.

If Brazil, and not only, wants to promote its football more in the old continent, it has to make some changes to the format of its competitions, to become more appealing to the fans of Europe. On the contrary, it will only attract when a European coach is in Brazil, or because of an excellent player who stands out, before arriving at a European club.

Yes, I agree that changes need to be made but what I wanted to say is that there might be a lot of people who don't agree with that and also think that changes might cause problems. People who are generally afraid of changes in my opinion.

But at this moment people agree or disagree doesn't matter because changes are needed. Otherwise, it's going to lose more interest and money. And it's really important that everyone realizes that. And I think a stand out there is going to attract more people there a coach.
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Is the problem really the rules and format of the competitions?

I would say it's primarily for the money... there's no way to compare the salary of a player on a European team with a Brazilian one, that's undeniable.
And the second criterion is visibility... with rare exceptions, most likely a European player who comes to Brazil will be able to stand out to the world, no matter how good he plays.

Of course, money cannot be compared or competed with.
The point is that in Europe there is an idea, perhaps wrong, that the format of the Brazilian competition is complicated and a little strange. It probably isn't, but this idea creates barriers, as it were, to generate greater interest. Hence I say that the Brazilian federation should try to verify the best way to promote its football in Europe.

Currently we don't see as many players as successful in Europe as before. Perhaps for this very reason, there has gradually been less interest in observing the Brazilian championship.

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The Brazilian championship format has different characteristics from the common formats in Europe. It doesn't mean that the ones in Europe are better. But we know that Europe is where the money in football is.

If Brazil, and not only, wants to promote its football more in the old continent, it has to make some changes to the format of its competitions, to become more appealing to the fans of Europe. On the contrary, it will only attract when a European coach is in Brazil, or because of an excellent player who stands out, before arriving at a European club.

Is the problem really the rules and format of the competitions?

I would say it's primarily for the money... there's no way to compare the salary of a player on a European team with a Brazilian one, that's undeniable.
And the second criterion is visibility... with rare exceptions, most likely a European player who comes to Brazil will be able to stand out to the world, no matter how good he plays.
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I think that the people are going to be divided into two parts about this matter. Because we will have certain people supporting the movements and some people not supporting this, you know basically how it is. Actually, I think this might seem like a very poor decision but this is going to be really helpful for the future of football in Brazil in the long run. I know it's a tradition for Brazilians but sometimes people have to move on. Not all changes are bad.

The Brazilian championship format has different characteristics from the common formats in Europe. It doesn't mean that the ones in Europe are better. But we know that Europe is where the money in football is.

If Brazil, and not only, wants to promote its football more in the old continent, it has to make some changes to the format of its competitions, to become more appealing to the fans of Europe. On the contrary, it will only attract when a European coach is in Brazil, or because of an excellent player who stands out, before arriving at a European club.
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The truth is that the CBF is an institution with a long history in Brazil, and we are also talking about one of the capitals where soccer is managed as a lifestyle, if Brazilians live soccer, they will not allow something that is already established by tradition of many years it will change, they should have many benefits and not do it that way, I think that is already more of an intrinsic problem of the Brazilian federation before the championships that become official and this takes time, the truth is not I see it viable.
I agree. But I also think that sometimes it's good to make some changes, taking into account the current reality of football. The fact that it has been a competition for many, many years should not be an excuse for not moving.

I believe that many of these movements, which want to create new competitions, aim not to create but to encourage changes to be made. And I think many fans agree that the format of some competitions no longer make sense, as they always favor the same ones. Hence, there are more and more movements calling for things to change.

I think that the people are going to be divided into two parts about this matter. Because we will have certain people supporting the movements and some people not supporting this, you know basically how it is. Actually, I think this might seem like a very poor decision but this is going to be really helpful for the future of football in Brazil in the long run. I know it's a tradition for Brazilians but sometimes people have to move on. Not all changes are bad.
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The truth is that the CBF is an institution with a long history in Brazil, and we are also talking about one of the capitals where soccer is managed as a lifestyle, if Brazilians live soccer, they will not allow something that is already established by tradition of many years it will change, they should have many benefits and not do it that way, I think that is already more of an intrinsic problem of the Brazilian federation before the championships that become official and this takes time, the truth is not I see it viable.

I agree. But I also think that sometimes it's good to make some changes, taking into account the current reality of football. The fact that it has been a competition for many, many years should not be an excuse for not moving.

I believe that many of these movements, which want to create new competitions, aim not to create but to encourage changes to be made. And I think many fans agree that the format of some competitions no longer make sense, as they always favor the same ones. Hence, there are more and more movements calling for things to change.
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And bringing a little bit of everything here, at least until the championship starts... there are some Brazilian clubs discussing the creation of a league to replace the oficial "Brasileirão" organized by the CBF. But, unlike what happened in Europe, this league doesn't it has the membership of no big club... I don't think this will lead to anything.
Anyone else following this?

I was not aware of this situation. It is not a subject that will be talked about in Europe, especially if it is still a very general idea.

But what is the idea of these clubs?
How would the competition be?

Do you think it would be a good idea?
The truth is that the CBF is an institution with a long history in Brazil, and we are also talking about one of the capitals where soccer is managed as a lifestyle, if Brazilians live soccer, they will not allow something that is already established by tradition of many years it will change, they should have many benefits and not do it that way, I think that is already more of an intrinsic problem of the Brazilian federation before the championships that become official and this takes time, the truth is not I see it viable.
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And bringing a little bit of everything here, at least until the championship starts... there are some Brazilian clubs discussing the creation of a league to replace the oficial "Brasileirão" organized by the CBF. But, unlike what happened in Europe, this league doesn't it has the membership of no big club... I don't think this will lead to anything.
Anyone else following this?

I was not aware of this situation. It is not a subject that will be talked about in Europe, especially if it is still a very general idea.

But what is the idea of these clubs?
How would the competition be?

Do you think it would be a good idea?
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But you will see the result in the long term, let's hope the thread continues but people only want to comment on the premier league, the bundesliga, La Liga, the Italian league, because in reality they are easy leagues to follow.

But the Brazilian Serie A, believe me, is complex. Thanks for the initiative and it would be interesting if you open (OP) the fan to the conmebol, so we could have more users from the entire region.

That's why we're here to talk about the Brazilian championship, and the other South American competitions.  Roll Eyes
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if you read the op + title he mentions that he is sad that there isn't a thread for soccer or brazilian league, I think you put everything in one thing and OP doesn't present it that way. Or what happens is that you think that only the Brazilian league is important and the reality is that in the area the Argentine league is on a par, in fact because of the language it has more dominance in the area, that's why my comment.

The focus is really on the Brazilian championship, but I confess that if we focus only at that, this topic will die soon, mainly because we have other important competitions at world level this year
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And bringing a little bit of everything here, at least until the championship starts... there are some Brazilian clubs discussing the creation of a league to replace the oficial "Brasileirão" organized by the CBF. But, unlike what happened in Europe, this league doesn't it has the membership of no big club... I don't think this will lead to anything.
Anyone else following this?
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But you will see the result in the long term, let's hope the thread continues but people only want to comment on the premier league, the bundesliga, La Liga, the Italian league, because in reality they are easy leagues to follow.

But the Brazilian Serie A, believe me, is complex. Thanks for the initiative and it would be interesting if you open (OP) the fan to the conmebol, so we could have more users from the entire region.

That's why we're here to talk about the Brazilian championship, and the other South American competitions.  Roll Eyes
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if you read the op + title he mentions that he is sad that there isn't a thread for soccer or brazilian league, I think you put everything in one thing and OP doesn't present it that way. Or what happens is that you think that only the Brazilian league is important and the reality is that in the area the Argentine league is on a par, in fact because of the language it has more dominance in the area, that's why my comment.

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But you will see the result in the long term, let's hope the thread continues but people only want to comment on the premier league, the bundesliga, La Liga, the Italian league, because in reality they are easy leagues to follow.

But the Brazilian Serie A, believe me, is complex. Thanks for the initiative and it would be interesting if you open (OP) the fan to the conmebol, so we could have more users from the entire region.

That's why we're here to talk about the Brazilian championship, and the other South American competitions.  Roll Eyes

When I played CM/FM, I even spent a season in Brazil, and played with Gremio and Vasco da Gama. Even so, I don't say they are my favorites, but I sympathized with them.

But I'm still waiting for arguments, so I can choose which club to become a fan.  Tongue
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Well, you're talking about Brazilian soccer, but the fact that you don't read something here doesn't mean that, as they say around here, they don't move it or they have fans. In fact, everything that exists in Europe in its equivalent is in South America, everything, if the area were not important and specifically the one you name Brazil, we would not have that recent match where I bet by the way on Palmeiras, which ended up losing to Chelsea.

Argentine and Brazilian soccer compete for the hierarchy of clubs in importance, but there is also the league of Colombia, Chile, Uruguay. Regional transmissions are an important signal as Directv covers the Conmebol Cup and ESPN has its respective regionals by country.

It happens or maybe is to say it happened with the Copa America last, it brings little user traffic in the comments but not in the bets, you can earn more money betting on the South American leagues than the European ones, which makes it strange in that sense that Yes! why not there is a thread, but not specific to a league but for the entire region or leagues like Argentina.

But you will see the result in the long term, let's hope the thread continues but people only want to comment on the premier league, the bundesliga, La Liga, the Italian league, because in reality they are easy leagues to follow.

But the Brazilian Serie A, believe me, is complex. Thanks for the initiative and it would be interesting if you open (OP) the fan to the conmebol, so we could have more users from the entire region.

Ahh! my favorite teams are 3:
Santos- Flamengo and Palmeiras




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I'm happy to know the Brazilian soccer has gained a little space here on the forum, especially in the gambling board!  Smiley
Thank you and congratulations for this initiative @alegotardo

Oh, by the way, my condolences to Palmeiras fans, who lost the world cup finals against Chelsea lol

Well, let's see what the "Brasileirão" will show us this year, I hope that my favorite team São Paulo wins another title. (although I'm not a soccer fanatic)
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I think Palmeiras played pretty well and it was only luck from Chelsea who won the game with a penalty in the 117th minute,luck was not on the side of Palmeiras as if they had managed to bring the game to penalties anything could have happened.I am also not a fan of Palmeiras but I am just being objective here,sure Chelsea played somewhat better but they were 3 minutes away from the penalties shootout.

I agree too. Despite Chelsea being stronger than Palmeiras, the Brazilians struggled very well. If Palmeiras had a good number 9, the counterattacks could have gone much better and the result would have been different.

They can leave with their heads held high, because they had a good game, and they were capable of winning the game if it wasn't for that penalty. Chelsea are not in the best shape, so it wouldn't be strange for them to lose.
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That's good to know, it will be interesting to see how the main championship goes.


And today, do you think Palmeiras will be able to beat Chelsea, and become club world champions?
If I'm not mistaken, I don't think any Brazilian club has yet won this award.

I know it's easy to say this after the game has already happened, but if I had seen your post before I would have said NO.

As good as Palmeiras are, it was very unlikely that he would beat Chelsea, I can't believe how he managed to take the game to overtime, maybe were hoping to win with a little luck!? I don't know.

And yeap, I don't like Palmeiras, let alone Corinthians, @rdluffy, Cheesy

I think Palmeiras played pretty well and it was only luck from Chelsea who won the game with a penalty in the 117th minute,luck was not on the side of Palmeiras as if they had managed to bring the game to penalties anything could have happened.I am also not a fan of Palmeiras but I am just being objective here,sure Chelsea played somewhat better but they were 3 minutes away from the penalties shootout.

Brazilians clubs are well known for playing strongly in attack but that was not the case during such game and Chelsea is not in top form compared to other teams in the major leagues of Europe,if it were another team they would surely won even more easily.
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