BREAKING NEWS: SATOSHI FINALLY REVEALED! - page 23.

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Quote from: bitbaby on May 02, 2016, 09:54:21 PM

Quote from: OmegaStarScream on May 02, 2016, 02:41:45 PM

See how Andreas M. Antonopoulos got contacted ( https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4hj1xu/why_i_declined_to_verify_sns_identity_two_weeks/ ) :

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If SN wants to "prove" their identity, they don't need an "authority" to do so. They can do it in a public, open manner.

^This. We don't need anybody to tell us that someone is Satoshi, the real Satoshi himself wouldn't need to get verified by a person or an authority, he can sign a message from PGP key/Bitcoin address and/or move some funds and that will be the ultimate proof. This looks to me like a government plot and members who are vouching for this have been bought, which is shameful.

his goal was more about getting the reports off his and his family's back then proving to everyone that he is satoshi. in fact he would rather no one know that he is satoshi.
and so, he proves to a few poeple that he is satoshi. says " i am satoshi " for the camera and and posted some BS sig for everyone else.
now the reporters will leave him alone because its yesterday's news
and everyone will keep on believing that he isn't satoshi
Brilliant!

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on May 02, 2016, 02:41:45 PM

See how Andreas M. Antonopoulos got contacted ( https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4hj1xu/why_i_declined_to_verify_sns_identity_two_weeks/ ) :

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If SN wants to "prove" their identity, they don't need an "authority" to do so. They can do it in a public, open manner.

^This. We don't need anybody to tell us that someone is Satoshi, the real Satoshi himself wouldn't need to get verified by a person or an authority, he can sign a message from PGP key/Bitcoin address and/or move some funds and that will be the ultimate proof. This looks to me like a government plot and members who are vouching for this have been bought, which is shameful.

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Quote from: Armadillo on May 02, 2016, 07:48:26 PM

All he has to do is send me a few hundred bitcoin from one of his large accounts and that will be proof enough for me....

If he indeed is Satoshi and wants to prove it, he can easily do so. But by refusing to sign custom messages, he is only creating doubts.

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Quote from: Gleb Gamow on May 02, 2016, 06:45:15 PM

Okay, who woke up Crackhead? http://pastebin.com/6TAyryqH

This pastebin was shown to me on a burner laptop so it must be true.

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--- We will never know who is the real Satoshi Nakamoto. Never.

1. Because it's too late. Because too much time has passed since the moment when the genuine Satoshi could be identified (a man or a group).
2. Because Bitcoin no longer need Satoshi. It lives it's own life regardless of it's origin creators.
3. Because Satoshi is now a question not of need, but a question of speculations and curiosity. So time after time an ordinary guy or group will reveal himself as "real Satoshi".
4. There are three kinds of people: believers, skeptics and doubters. And always, ALWAYS will be hot discussions about real SN.
5. That's a destiny of Bitcoin. And for me it looks catching.

My poor two satoshi.

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https://youtu.be/DsAVx0u9Cw4 ... Dr. WHO < KLF

- https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Steven_Wright

Reference: 25. ^ Wright, Craig; Kleiman, Dave; Sundhar R.S., Shayaam (2008). "Overwriting Hard Drive Data: The Great Wiping Controversy". In Sekar, R. Information Systems Security: 4th International Conference, ICISS 2008, Hyderabad, India, December 16–20, 2008, Proceedings. Springer Science & Business Media. p. 243.

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Quote from: Quickseller on May 02, 2016, 07:36:37 PM

Quote from: cjmoles on May 02, 2016, 07:26:23 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on May 02, 2016, 07:03:39 PM

Quote from: hilariousandco on May 02, 2016, 08:22:15 AM

what is more concerning is Gavin Andresen seemingly buying this bullshit. Very alarming.

Gavin apparently was able to personally verify the signature of a signed message signed by 12c6DSiU4Rq3P4ZxziKxzrL5LmMBrzjrJX which received the block subsidy of the first block after the genesis block. From what I have read, an administrative assistant to Wright purchased a new laptop and USB stick that Gavin then used to download a copy of electrum and verify the signed message. It is possible that the laptop was in fact not newly purchased but was instead previously tampered with.

From what I can gather, some people are trying to make this somewhat of a blocksize debate instead of a debate of how realistic it is that Wright is in fact satoshi.

This may be a naive question (in fact, I'm sure of it!), but if this event took place, why can't we see evidence of it on the ledger? And, why wouldn't the proof have been published on the block chain? Isn't that the purpose of the ledger....to remove the third party from the system?

In order to sign a message all you need to do is control the private key of the address you are signing. There is no actual movement/exchange of money. Please see this thread for more information about how signing a message works.

The purpose of the ledger/blockchain is to have a record of all of the bitcoin transactions, it protects you against the double spending of the same money.

Although I'm still confused by the method Wright chose to attempt to prove his identity, I get it now. Assuming Gavin's conviction is genuine, might it be possible that Wright does have access to the private keys but doesn't have access to the funds due to a multisig contract (was multisig even available on the early protocol) requiring a second signature that he can't access yet because its locked up in a safety deposit box somewhere (maybe this guy's: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-and-me-hal-finney-155054) ? Also, considering that Wright has two super computers, what is the probability that he brute forced the private keys for the address at block #0?

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Quote from: --Encrypted-- on May 02, 2016, 07:59:05 PM

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36185622

gavin:

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I think he feels that he has no choice. there was information leaked about him in the fall.

when was that? never heard of wright before december.

NotBatman, please explain that even under a dome December 8th is still technology fall.

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hee-ho.

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36185622

gavin:

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I think he feels that he has no choice. there was information leaked about him in the fall.

~~when was that? never heard of wright before december.~~

edit:
ohhh. nvm, wrong continent. thanks gleb.

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All he has to do is send me a few hundred bitcoin from one of his large accounts and that will be proof enough for me....

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Quote from: Gleb Gamow on May 02, 2016, 06:45:15 PM

Okay, who woke up Crackhead? http://pastebin.com/6TAyryqH

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Many of you know me as cryptcracker, the bounty hunter that is uncovering the truth behind the Crypty "hack" and bringing the perpetrators to justice. However I have been doing this kind of work far before the cryptsy incident, I am making this dispatch today to reveal crucial information on the sudden news about Satoshi Nakamoto's identity and the plot Gavin Andresen has been involved in.

Satoshi was the greatest mind that I have seen in ages always calm and collected a real genius. Notice that I said was, that's because I'm sorry to say Satoshi Nakamoto was murdered by Gavin Andresen and his CIA associates. The CIA saw the transparency of the blockchain and they thought this would be a good way to track their "dirty subordinates". Let me explain, the CIA gives money, guns and drugs to terrorists so they can do things like stage a coup and overthrow governments this is well documented. The CIA saw the transparency of bitcoin and got the idea to start using bitcoin as one of the ways they fund these dirty subordinates.

Gavin was given the task of identifying Satoshi and flipping on him which he did. Once Satoshi was found and about to be captured I was informed 1 of 2 things happened, Satoshi committed suicide or the authorities were successful in capturing Satoshi and Satoshi was tortured and then killed. I am sorry for not being 100% certain on which one it is but it was one of the two I know this because my sources also relayed documents to me showing Satoshis dead body and classified CIA files.

Craig Wright was chosen as the CIA's front man to act like he was the real Satoshi Nakamoto. Gavin Andresen was to use his position in the community to pass this off. However these fools completely botched there plan because 1. they don't have the keys to the best of my knowledge and 2. they over estimated their manipulative tactics. The CIA got used to pulling these tactics on the general population but they didn't understand something this transparent wouldn't work against the bitcoin Community since it's much more tech savvy.

This was one of the saddest stories that I have known about for a while and I think it needs to get out there. I am currently hesitant in releasing the confidential CIA files because if Satoshi's identity is know his friends and family will be in danger along with my sources. I will attempt to secure them so they are not in danger once that is done I might be able to release the files.

Thank you for your time, another dispatch will be coming soon.

Apart from the "kidnap/murder" bollocks there could actually be a 3 letter agency link to this whole CSW charade.

He must have known he would never fool the real savvy Bitcoin community but what if he were going through the motions at the behest of an agency in return for lenience on his tax/fraud affairs?

Judging by the shit storm of activity on Twitter , Reddit and who knows how many forums over this escapade, an interested agency could be sweeping up usernames & IP addresses of what they consider to be an active part of the bitcoin community.

Very handy to know if legislation is brought in to control/tax bitcoins.

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Quote from: cjmoles on May 02, 2016, 07:26:23 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on May 02, 2016, 07:03:39 PM

Quote from: hilariousandco on May 02, 2016, 08:22:15 AM

what is more concerning is Gavin Andresen seemingly buying this bullshit. Very alarming.

Gavin apparently was able to personally verify the signature of a signed message signed by 12c6DSiU4Rq3P4ZxziKxzrL5LmMBrzjrJX which received the block subsidy of the first block after the genesis block. From what I have read, an administrative assistant to Wright purchased a new laptop and USB stick that Gavin then used to download a copy of electrum and verify the signed message. It is possible that the laptop was in fact not newly purchased but was instead previously tampered with.

From what I can gather, some people are trying to make this somewhat of a blocksize debate instead of a debate of how realistic it is that Wright is in fact satoshi.

This may be a naive question (in fact, I'm sure of it!), but if this event took place, why can't we see evidence of it on the ledger? And, why wouldn't the proof have been published on the block chain? Isn't that the purpose of the ledger....to remove the third party from the system?

In order to sign a message all you need to do is control the private key of the address you are signing. There is no actual movement/exchange of money. Please see this thread for more information about how signing a message works.

The purpose of the ledger/blockchain is to have a record of all of the bitcoin transactions, it protects you against the double spending of the same money.

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Quote from: cjmoles on May 02, 2016, 07:26:23 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on May 02, 2016, 07:03:39 PM

Quote from: hilariousandco on May 02, 2016, 08:22:15 AM

what is more concerning is Gavin Andresen seemingly buying this bullshit. Very alarming.

Gavin apparently was able to personally verify the signature of a signed message signed by 12c6DSiU4Rq3P4ZxziKxzrL5LmMBrzjrJX which received the block subsidy of the first block after the genesis block. From what I have read, an administrative assistant to Wright purchased a new laptop and USB stick that Gavin then used to download a copy of electrum and verify the signed message. It is possible that the laptop was in fact not newly purchased but was instead previously tampered with.

From what I can gather, some people are trying to make this somewhat of a blocksize debate instead of a debate of how realistic it is that Wright is in fact satoshi.

This may be a naive question (in fact, I'm sure of it!), but if this event took place, why can't we see evidence of it on the ledger? And, why wouldn't the proof have been published on the block chain? Isn't that the purpose of the ledger....to remove the third party from the system?

You are right, the whole idea is to remove the 3th party, and the mainstream media, is owned by and controlled by third-parties, that also have been the masses slave-masters for centuries. They dont want to give their power away, this must be somekind of scam they are pulling to confuse the masses in the hope the get a few more years of control.. am I right about this??

I have to say that I meet so many people, that I tried to talk about Bitcoins and related topics, and many of them, maybe 90%, either:

1. do not understand the basic idea of bitcoin and removing 3th party trust

or

2. refuse to talk about the real meaning of bitcoin and removing 3th party trust, and just play stupid to protect them self.

What is confusing for me, is that it is so few people that I can talk with about bitcoin, and having a meaningfull conversation in real life, are you here on the forum experiencing the same??? And I have talked to ALOT of people regarding Bitcoin.

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Ughh... Roger is even duped into believing Wright is Satoshi. How credulous can these people be?

https://archive.is/P5dpx#selection-2177.12-2177.72

What makes this worse is this isn't the first time Wright has been caught with misleading statements , fabrications, and lies. He was making them last year so everyone has had time to digest them and be skeptical of his claims.

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Quote from: Quickseller on May 02, 2016, 07:03:39 PM

Quote from: hilariousandco on May 02, 2016, 08:22:15 AM

what is more concerning is Gavin Andresen seemingly buying this bullshit. Very alarming.

Gavin apparently was able to personally verify the signature of a signed message signed by 12c6DSiU4Rq3P4ZxziKxzrL5LmMBrzjrJX which received the block subsidy of the first block after the genesis block. From what I have read, an administrative assistant to Wright purchased a new laptop and USB stick that Gavin then used to download a copy of electrum and verify the signed message. It is possible that the laptop was in fact not newly purchased but was instead previously tampered with.

I'm wondering that. You can buy variations of tamper proof sealing tape like this from ebay.

What if Wright removed a new computer's seals, cleaned the adhesive off, and tampered with it? He could have replaced the sealing tape with his own ebay purchased tape, and Gavin would be none the wiser.

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Quote from: Quickseller on May 02, 2016, 07:03:39 PM

Quote from: hilariousandco on May 02, 2016, 08:22:15 AM

what is more concerning is Gavin Andresen seemingly buying this bullshit. Very alarming.

Gavin apparently was able to personally verify the signature of a signed message signed by 12c6DSiU4Rq3P4ZxziKxzrL5LmMBrzjrJX which received the block subsidy of the first block after the genesis block. From what I have read, an administrative assistant to Wright purchased a new laptop and USB stick that Gavin then used to download a copy of electrum and verify the signed message. It is possible that the laptop was in fact not newly purchased but was instead previously tampered with.

From what I can gather, some people are trying to make this somewhat of a blocksize debate instead of a debate of how realistic it is that Wright is in fact satoshi.

This may be a naive question (in fact, I'm sure of it!), but if this event took place, why can't we see evidence of it on the ledger? And, why wouldn't the proof have been published on the block chain? Isn't that the purpose of the ledger....to remove the third party from the system?

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on May 02, 2016, 02:41:45 PM

See how Andreas M. Antonopoulos got contacted ( https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4hj1xu/why_i_declined_to_verify_sns_identity_two_weeks/ ) :

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About two weeks ago I was contacted and asked to offer security advice for a project. I was asked to sign an NDA in order to discuss the project itself, something I am reluctant to do, in general. Once I received the NDA however, it became obvious that the project was related to verifying the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto. I immediately declined the offer, declined to participate and declined to sign the NDA.
I'm sure many people will think I was wrong to decline the "opportunity" to verify SN's identity. From my perspective, the request for me to verify his/her/their identity is in itself an appeal to authority. It is replacing public cryptographic proof with endorsement by a third party. If SN wants to "prove" their identity, they don't need an "authority" to do so. They can do it in a public, open manner. To ask people in the space who have a reputation to stake that reputation and vouch for SN's identity raises many red flags in my mind.
I don't know if Craig Wright is SN. I don't care and I don't want to know.
As I have expressed many times in the past, I think the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto does not matter. More importantly I think it serves to distract from the fact that bitcoin is not controlled by anyone and is not a system of Appeal-to-Authority. Identifying the creator only serves to feed the appeal-to-authority crowd, as if SN is some kind of infallible prophet, or has any say over bitcoin's future.
Identity and authority are distractions from a system of mathematical proof that does not require trust. This is not a telenovela. Bitcoin is a neutral framework of trust that can bring financial empowerment to billions of people. It works because it doesn't depend on any authority. Not even Satoshi's.
Back to work.

Andreas is 110% amazing. Love this guy.

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How typical bitcoin developers and crypto-experts look:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/ftt-uploads/princeton_bitcoin_workshop_dinner.jpeg

How "Satoshi" looks:

http://cdn.static-economist.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/full-width/images/2016/05/articles/main/20160430_blp541.jpg

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Geekiness and nerdiness will typically be from somewhat visible to very visible. Whether you are Gavin Andersen or a multi-billionaire like Gates.

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Quote from: hilariousandco on May 02, 2016, 08:22:15 AM

what is more concerning is Gavin Andresen seemingly buying this bullshit. Very alarming.

Gavin apparently was able to personally verify the signature of a signed message signed by 12c6DSiU4Rq3P4ZxziKxzrL5LmMBrzjrJX which received the block subsidy of the first block after the genesis block. From what I have read, an administrative assistant to Wright purchased a new laptop and USB stick that Gavin then used to download a copy of electrum and verify the signed message. It is possible that the laptop was in fact not newly purchased but was instead previously tampered with.

From what I can gather, some people are trying to make this somewhat of a blocksize debate instead of a debate of how realistic it is that Wright is in fact satoshi.

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