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November 25, 2015, 06:53:56 PM
I am in contact with Mastermining and he is awair of the multi chain issue. He can sync his pool back to CCE if its determined to be a valid chain.

But first Cryptsy needs to get their wallet synced and up to date. If 5mil is affiliated with cryptsy, I would hope he can work thus issue out and get us back up and running on the exchange.


Woo Hoo downloaded your file and syncing nicely, in fact I got my mined coins too happy days, let's hope the exchanges sort themselves out so I can sell em 😀

Keep in mind we still don't know which chain is to end up as the 'official' chain.
 - just saying ...

Who cares? Its dead and has no life anymore. They have no where to cash out and that could be a good thing - they'll have to wait or help develop a goods & services market to take back their shady coins, instead of selling them now and crash the market.

I noticed ispace.co shows they are mining blocks to a
Wallet Version: v0.4.0-nvc-8-g30741b0-dirty-beta

That sounds kinda shady to me... just sayin
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November 25, 2015, 06:38:39 PM
http://btb.cryptocoinexplorer.com/ is a sponsored block explorer that has been active since 2013. Part of the sponsorship includes a dedicated node that can be connected to @ btb.alcoin.net

I have connected to this node and am  accepting blocks through my wallet.

I have 22 stake transactions, all for 0.0btb.

I am confused now, should I not leave my wallet running? ..and should I not put those IPs in my node list or what?

I get coins from mastermining when I mine there but I'm not mining BTB anymore until the shenanigans are over. I'm also waiting on transactions to show up from Cryptsy. Is it possible to have the both chains merge in the next wallet update?

There is a minimum amount to stake to get rewards in the current code.
Your POS blocks are indeed moving the network along by confirming transactions but if they are small amount, they will not get a reward.

As we know Proof of Stake is a concept Bitbar adopted from peercoin, which gives the currency a variable inflation rate, but also an energy efficient property by allowing holders of the currency to generate blocks for much less energy required by miners. Apparently there was a block reward De-synchronization issue that was noticed and fixed in Bitbar by the Developer of peercoin, Sunny King. This is why currently small rewards are rounded down.
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Rewards also depend on Coin age of transactions. Every transaction is eligible for POS after 30 days, and up to 90 days. If a transaction is left untouched for 30 days, it will begin to try and stake a block on the network. If it stakes at this point, the transaction will split into two smaller equal outputs totaling the initial stake amount.

Take a look on the block explorer here http://btb.cryptocoinexplorer.com/address?address=BJTuq5JSLzRbZyw8xurtYejt5Q4cur8rcq

Notice the transactions that "split" into 9.475BTB from 18.9. They staked after 30ish days and gained a total reward of 0.05 bitbar, very close to the annual .05% inflation rate in the bitbar code.

If one were to not touch the transaction for 90days, it would be considered fully Mature and when it stakes, it would not split into two transactions, and the reward, if eligible, would be added to the original transaction.

Once the transaction is older than 90 days it does gain extra coin age, the the proof of stake reward will not grow past the 90 day full maturity level.

I want to say 4-5BTB would be required at full maturity to stake interest at this time.

Proof of stake difficulty is so low on the network that mined blocks Les than 1btb are staking very easily.

If you want rewards, you will have to combine your mined blocks into a large enough transaction meeting the criteria above to gain reward.
Hope this helps,



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November 25, 2015, 06:03:07 PM

Woo Hoo downloaded your file and syncing nicely, in fact I got my mined coins too happy days, let's hope the exchanges sort themselves out so I can sell em 😀

Keep in mind we still don't know which chain is to end up as the 'official' chain.
 - just saying ...

Who cares? Its dead and has no life anymore. They have no where to cash out and that could be a good thing - they'll have to wait or help develop a goods & services market to take back their shady coins, instead of selling them now and crash the market.
legendary
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November 25, 2015, 01:40:41 PM
I have 22 stake transactions, all for 0.0btb.

I am confused now, should I not leave my wallet running? ..and should I not put those IPs in my node list or what?

I get coins from mastermining when I mine there but I'm not mining BTB anymore until the shenanigans are over. I'm also waiting on transactions to show up from Cryptsy. Is it possible to have the both chains merge in the next wallet update?

Can't really merge the chains. If block 141,300 (for instance) of "ispace chain" doesn't match block 141,300 of "CCE chain" how do you figure out which miner gets the reward - and which one looses?
If it is a short fork, like a day or two, the pending confirmations would turn into orphans (520 confirmations on a mined block takes like - 4 days) but this current fork has gone on for over a month.

As for your wallet, the IP's you added are probably being ignored, so you can leave them if you want, but personally, I would remove them and stick to the IP addresses at http://btb.cryptocoinexplorer.com/peerinfo
If your block count is in sync with CCE, feel free to leave your wallet open for staking
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November 25, 2015, 01:13:52 PM
ok - so I may have jumped too soon.

block counts at the time of this writing (8:44 am Pacific Coast Time):
CCE 141,380
Mastermining 141,266  -  their BTB pool is in maintenance - so the block count might not be updating
iSpace 141,316

we and our official block explorer - http://btb.cryptocoinexplorer.com/ are the longest (and most stable in my opinion) chain.
I asked our dev, 5mil his thoughts on the fork, and which way Cryptsy was going to go, and thinks the CCE chain is winning.

Sorry about all this flip-flopping, I'm just getting tired of waiting, and wanted to be prepared to get back to mining on which ever chain!

For now, I've got my wallet open and staking, and I pointed 10 KHash of miners at Bitbar - on the CCE chain to help push it along.

Once Cryptsy gets their wallet out of maintenance, I think we should try and get some more pools interested in Bitbar, and see about getting added back to coinwarz.com
Possibly set something up for BTB donations to be used for bounty's and  such.
Maybe have Lukemarshall hold the funds, if he is willing?

Guess I better remove the link for the 'other chain' download, and make a new update for our CCE chain.
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November 25, 2015, 11:34:15 AM
I have 22 stake transactions, all for 0.0btb.

I am confused now, should I not leave my wallet running? ..and should I not put those IPs in my node list or what?

I get coins from mastermining when I mine there but I'm not mining BTB anymore until the shenanigans are over. I'm also waiting on transactions to show up from Cryptsy. Is it possible to have the both chains merge in the next wallet update?
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November 23, 2015, 07:06:05 PM
I've switched my desktop wallet back to the chain that matches CCE.
about 96% (I didn't check them all) of the last 100 blocks are pos from my wallet.
Guess that will keep the chain moving along for now.
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November 23, 2015, 02:05:25 PM
Cryptsy wallet is down @ 135775 Blockheight

http://ispace.co.uk

http://btb.mastermining.net

The two current Bitbar pools are different Blockheights around 141xxx.

Both pools block explorer points back to http://btb.cryptocoinexplorer.com/ however ispace.co does not match the explorer.

Mastermining matches until today, now the explorer is showing a large amount pos blocks coming in 100+ blocks higher that your pool.

There is awallet is loaded with mined blocks that are proof of staking at a high rate due to Low PoS difficulty of the network.
















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November 22, 2015, 06:26:19 PM
Hi to All

Here is a Node with same blockchain as  http://btb.cryptocoinexplorer.com

This Node is from my minimg Pool
btb.mastermining.net


Hope it is the right fork but should be if the same as   http://btb.cryptocoinexplorer.com ??

addnode=84.74.66.206

Regards MM
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November 22, 2015, 01:44:41 AM

Woo Hoo downloaded your file and syncing nicely, in fact I got my mined coins too happy days, let's hope the exchanges sort themselves out so I can sell em 😀

Keep in mind we still don't know which chain is to end up as the 'official' chain.
 - just saying ...
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November 21, 2015, 09:22:16 PM
well, as it seems that the long chain wins out over the short chain - in regards to forks, I have switched over to the other chain.
I was able to sync my desktop wallet to the long chain.
I zipped the chain and put it in the download section of Bitbar.co

The good news is my withdrawals from cryptsy showed up.
The bad news is my mining efforts after 9/24/2015 23:51 PST are orphans.

I suggest everyone back up their wallet.dat (or just rename the Bitbar folder in your C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming folder to OLD-Bitbar) and try again. (for Linux mv .bitbar dot-bitbar)

The chain backup (AppData_bitbar11212015.zip) works for Linux also. - as on widows you will have to move some files around.

Both my desktop and pool server are switched over, so that is two less peers connected to btb.cryptocoinexplorer.com

here are some nodes from the long chain:
addnode=108.61.10.90
addnode=84.74.66.206
addnode=167.160.36.162
addnode=173.65.129.85

I will try and get in touch with cce, mastermind and cryptsy.

Woo Hoo downloaded your file and syncing nicely, in fact I got my mined coins too happy days, let's hope the exchanges sort themselves out so I can sell em 😀
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November 21, 2015, 05:46:25 PM


I might rethink that decision honestly.

I'm working on a post do give me some time please to explain my position.


I've sent one email off already, but I can tell them to disregard for now, it's not like anybody is in a rush to do anything.

No worries
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November 21, 2015, 05:42:36 PM
well, as it seems that the long chain wins out over the short chain - in regards to forks, I have switched over to the other chain.
I was able to sync my desktop wallet to the long chain.
I zipped the chain and put it in the download section of Bitbar.co

The good news is my withdrawals from cryptsy showed up.
The bad news is my mining efforts after 9/24/2015 23:51 PST are orphans.

I suggest everyone back up their wallet.dat (or just rename the Bitbar folder in your C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming folder to OLD-Bitbar) and try again. (for Linux mv .bitbar dot-bitbar)

The chain backup (AppData_bitbar11212015.zip) works for Linux also. - as on widows you will have to move some files around.

Both my desktop and pool server are switched over, so that is two less peers connected to btb.cryptocoinexplorer.com

here are some nodes from the long chain:
addnode=108.61.10.90
addnode=84.74.66.206
addnode=167.160.36.162
addnode=173.65.129.85

I will try and get in touch with cce, mastermind and cryptsy.

I might rethink that decision honestly.

I'm working on a post do give me some time please to explain my position.


legendary
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November 21, 2015, 02:32:47 PM
do you know if they are on the same chain as Cryptsy's  -or-  the one on http://btb.cryptocoinexplorer.com ??

I know that ispace doesn't use BTB.cryptocoinexplorer.com so I have no idea what's going on

I was wondering if your wallet block count matches the block explorer, and was wondering if the pools block count matched.

The pools block count cannot be seen on the explorer says it's not found. The coins have finally started to be paid now, just need an exchange to sell them on 😁

just thought I would mention that it takes (I believe) 520 confirmations on a mined block before it 'pays out'. With a 10 minute block time - that's 5200 minutes (86 hours = about 3 1/2 days)

Also, Cryptsy and Bter Bitbar wallets are down because of the fork - which is being worked on.
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November 21, 2015, 12:47:58 PM
I got a PM from 5mil and he is planning on taking over development control for BitBar. Thats all I really know at this point and I noticed he hadnt popped in here yet.

What is a good wallet link that you are using? Ill load one up here to help out.

Build your own is https://github.com/Mullick/bitbar
built is https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B4om3KFtcvGYV3NGdmdOZEZ3c2s&usp=sharing the wallet versions are all the same it seems. they all report v0.4.2.0


a copy of my windows App-data\Bitbar (minus wallet.dat) is http://bitbar.co/Chain/bitbar-wallet.zip made 3 days before the chain forked
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November 21, 2015, 12:57:53 AM
I got a PM from 5mil and he is planning on taking over development control for BitBar. Thats all I really know at this point and I noticed he hadnt popped in here yet.

What is a good wallet link that you are using? Ill load one up here to help out.
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November 19, 2015, 03:04:53 AM
do you know if they are on the same chain as Cryptsy's  -or-  the one on http://btb.cryptocoinexplorer.com ??

I know that ispace doesn't use BTB.cryptocoinexplorer.com so I have no idea what's going on

I was wondering if your wallet block count matches the block explorer, and was wondering if the pools block count matched.

The pools block count cannot be seen on the explorer says it's not found. The coins have finally started to be paid now, just need an exchange to sell them on 😁
legendary
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November 18, 2015, 08:53:57 PM
do you know if they are on the same chain as Cryptsy's  -or-  the one on http://btb.cryptocoinexplorer.com ??

I know that ispace doesn't use BTB.cryptocoinexplorer.com so I have no idea what's going on

I was wondering if your wallet block count matches the block explorer, and was wondering if the pools block count matched.
legendary
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November 18, 2015, 08:50:59 PM
what coins has 5mil done:?

I don't know, or really care much.
Jim Blasko recommended him, and 5mil is a mod on crypty, which should say something.
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November 18, 2015, 02:54:17 PM
do you know if they are on the same chain as Cryptsy's  -or-  the one on http://btb.cryptocoinexplorer.com ??

I know that ispace doesn't use BTB.cryptocoinexplorer.com so I have no idea what's going on
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