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Topic: BTC-e hacked ?? - page 111. (Read 199749 times)

legendary
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July 27, 2017, 11:22:52 AM
Most likely BTC-E will come back. An admin is still on the loose, there has been no indication that funds or servers were seized. No message of seizure. No known transfer of funds (that's one of the first things LE would do). Perhaps it will only come back to allow withdraws. The risks has increased for the remaining admin(s). I also wouldn't be surprised if there will have to be some socialized losses as fiat accounts are easier to seize, no info that it has happened but it's a possibility.

There's a lot of new people here today who seem to gain joy from others misfortune. Studies has shown correlations between schadenfreude and low self-esteem, inferiority complex and envy. I only feel sorry for these people. If you gain pleasure from others misfortune you probably don't live such a great life yourself. Successful people seldom feel this way. Just a quick note on that point.

I think most of us knew this day would come, sadly there is no choice but to keep funds on exchanges if you want to trade. It's clear that we're headed for decentralized exchanges in the future, but the infrastructure is too young still for most of the volume to move there.

Also I would caution people cheering on the capture of Alex to be so quick to judge. We don't really know any details yet. For the most part he seems to be completely innocent with regards to harming others. Moving money around without license should never be a crime. Let's not have the slave mentality get completely out of hand here, mkay?
legendary
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July 27, 2017, 11:19:19 AM
Dump for what? Only good missing tens of thousands of btc from trading.

The problem I see is, what exchange is safe?  Maybe if you trade on a Chinese exchange and don't live in the US.  BTC-e wasn't in the US and not run by US citizens and yet here we all are talking about it and nowhere on the internets is BTC-e.  So if no exchange is safe for non-criminals, if using any exchange is risking having all of your funds stolen by the US government, then what happens?  Dumpsville.  Make no mistake, overwhelmingly the value of BTC is determined by whale speculators.  If they can't safely trade in volume for profit, they will leave and BTC will crash very hard.
newbie
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July 27, 2017, 11:12:15 AM
I strongly believe It's done. Share this post with all BTC's traders all over the word and be waiting for a hard dropping.

NO. They are just preparing for 1st august. Nothing more nothing less. Read the twitter. 5 days till 10 days means after 1st august

Well, in reality, they are setting the backups on a server in Russia or Iceland or whatever jurisdiction, implementing USA access ban, probably new KYC guidelines, a withdrawals hold and trying to communicate with Alexander or the lawyers in Greece.

And this let me think, what is going to happen if the court in Greece decides that they are not going to extradite him to USA but instead to Russia? Personally I doubt it, but well... we are in a crypto drama movie, so everything can happen.

They knew about the arrest and still posted that they come back in 5-10 days? They dont believe they are going to make it? And no, it is not automated script because btc-e.com admin postedin the Russian forum on bitcointalk.

hero member
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July 27, 2017, 11:09:27 AM
newbie
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July 27, 2017, 11:08:42 AM
The media is painting as much as a bad picture as they can regarding BTC-E

http://fortune.com/2017/07/27/btc-e-digital-currency/

Now they tell the world the troll box was a "message boards buzzing with illegal activities"

Most content was related to, trading, moons, flat earth theories, odd bit of religion... After being on there for quite some time there was very little illegal activity talk, this is just bullshit.

Good Luck goes out to all BTC-e Trolls !

member
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July 27, 2017, 11:07:05 AM
NO. They are just preparing for 1st august. Nothing more nothing less. Read the twitter. 5 days till 10 days means after 1st august

Really? With all the news going around of the arrest, huge fines, datacenter search warrants and so on, you think it's only for preparation purposes? I'd say that's a tad optimistic.
full member
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July 27, 2017, 11:02:09 AM
I strongly believe It's done. Share this post with all BTC's traders all over the word and be waiting for a hard dropping.

NO. They are just preparing for 1st august. Nothing more nothing less. Read the twitter. 5 days till 10 days means after 1st august
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
July 27, 2017, 10:59:29 AM

btc-e=funds are frozen   Wink

Source? Or is the smilie an indicator?

No it is expert advisor  Grin mt4 joke
sr. member
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Merit: 265
July 27, 2017, 10:54:27 AM
Did this Vinnick person do the things he is being accused of? Time will tell. If he did, it is good that LE finally caught up with him. Btc- e is not re opening anytime soon or at all.
member
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July 27, 2017, 10:53:23 AM
I'm surprised BTC is still above 2500$. But maybe it need some days until we see the big crash. Do you think we have to wait the 5-10 days until the community start to dump?

I'd expect a big pump after aug 1 and BCC nonsense is settled, although confirmation that btc-e is dead and money gone will certainly lead to a dump as well. Would have thought price should be way lower than 2500 at this point.
sr. member
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July 27, 2017, 10:50:11 AM
I strongly believe It's done. Share this post with all BTC's traders all over the word and be waiting for a hard dropping.
newbie
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July 27, 2017, 10:41:23 AM
nothing is impossible - 1% or 0,1% chance what do you think?


Maybe the admin can share a cell with Ross Ulbricht Cheesy
newbie
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July 27, 2017, 10:35:02 AM
BTC-e is DONE. DEAL WITH IT  Cool

Its in the human nature to have hope and I was already at the stage where I was giving this hope up but with all the facts around, there is still a chance that btce will come back.

It is also in the human nature to be happy about other people loss, you and the other people writing about "you should learn your lesson" are the best example. I hope you feel really good about yourself. Its always the best to feed your own happiness from other peoples grieve and loss.
full member
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July 27, 2017, 10:30:17 AM
If an exchange steal's my money, I complain to who again, if the authorities steal my money under these kind of circumstances, then that's just something we ALL have to just put up with!
newbie
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July 27, 2017, 10:28:01 AM
I see so much wishful thinking from users who have coins and money stuck on btc-e, it's almost sad...

"It's going to be ok, I bet the website will be back up and running in a few days."
"The admin are working on it."
And so on...

I'll give you my two cents: If BTC-e ever comes back up, it will be in a few months at least. That is because whoever is in charge now will have to cooperate with law enforcement to figure things out. And law enforcement is hella slow. They will audit BTC-e and if by chance they don't simply decide to confiscate all the bitcoins, then they will have to figure out which accounts are legitimate and which are not. Which means that to get your coins back you'll have to give them your identify and prove where your money or coins came from and that it was all legit.

I have 2 grands worth of altcoins on the exchange, I consider that money as lost, and I don't care, because I knew, and everybody with a brain knew, that BTC-e was shady as fuck, and you'd have to be really stupid to have kept more than you were willing to lose there.

I will also give my two cents to the other wishful thinkers that believe their coins are safe on another exchange because "it's regulated". All exchanges, without exception, are being used by criminals to launder money. Only the extent of it varies, and whether or not the owners are involved in it. Have y'all forgotten about BitInstant already??

BTC-e is DONE. DEAL WITH IT  Cool

What law enforcement is that Smiley?  IF they want to solve their US problem wouldn't be as simple as not allowing FIAT withdraw to US Banks?
newbie
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July 27, 2017, 10:09:52 AM

btc-e=funds are frozen   Wink

Source? Or is the smilie an indicator?
member
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Merit: 10
July 27, 2017, 10:08:46 AM
you guys are traders and has no idea what real business is like. bigger amounts. bigger people.

shutting down btc-e right now would be fucking up alex, and i doubt they will do that.

no one ever proved whos the owner of btc-e, and when it goes up again, people will start to doubt.

probably some fucking snitch cunt who told the feds alot shit about the mtgox transfers. if he wasnt under protection right now he would probably have been shot already


this is all rumors and the states has alot evidence that btc-e has been washing the mtgox money, but who is responsible? the owner of the site. but who is that?

if btc-e doesnt go up again, it is probably him.

if hes friends takes it online again, and the trade start again, can it be someone else? hes friends are trying to figure out what to do right now, at least fight for a hope to get their friend back. these guys have probably been friends for many, many years. and i doubt they will just  leave him and take all the shit. at least they are russians.


i have lost a big amount myself. but i dont actually care. all i care for right now, is him. i feel bad for him. maybe hes not even the owner. hes family must be so depressed right now.

to whoever is fighting for him out there, i wish you all the best, and good luck.

If he's the one who did the MtGox thing then I have no sympathy for him. He destroyed a lot of people and almost destroyed crypto as a whole and he should pay his time. If he's innocent then more power to him.
newbie
Activity: 107
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July 27, 2017, 09:55:33 AM
you guys are traders and has no idea what real business is like. bigger amounts. bigger people.

shutting down btc-e right now would be fucking up alex, and i doubt they will do that.

no one ever proved whos the owner of btc-e, and when it goes up again, people will start to doubt.

probably some fucking snitch cunt who told the feds alot shit about the mtgox transfers. if he wasnt under protection right now he would probably have been shot already


this is all rumors and the states has alot evidence that btc-e has been washing the mtgox money, but who is responsible? the owner of the site. but who is that?

if btc-e doesnt go up again, it is probably him.

if hes friends takes it online again, and the trade start again, can it be someone else? hes friends are trying to figure out what to do right now, at least fight for a hope to get their friend back. these guys have probably been friends for many, many years. and i doubt they will just  leave him and take all the shit. at least they are russians.


i have lost a big amount myself. but i dont actually care. all i care for right now, is him. i feel bad for him. maybe hes not even the owner. hes family must be so depressed right now.

to whoever is fighting for him out there, i wish you all the best, and good luck.
hero member
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July 27, 2017, 09:52:02 AM
@ Tradewatcher:  mtgox=the thieves sold what they stole

btc-e=funds are frozen   Wink
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
July 27, 2017, 09:51:39 AM
I'm surprised BTC is still above 2500$. But maybe it need some days until we see the big crash. Do you think we have to wait the 5-10 days until the community start to dump?

If btce comes up in a week, there will be a pump party up to at least $4000. Probably people at other exchanges will pump too.
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