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Topic: BTC-e hacked ?? - page 31. (Read 199749 times)

erk
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August 30, 2017, 04:27:33 AM
what's that event? and who are these guys?

I presume it was at Blockemon17 Saturday 26 August 2017 in Belgrade, Serbia
legendary
Activity: 2170
Merit: 1427
August 30, 2017, 04:24:09 AM
what's that event? and who are these guys?

I can't seem to find much regarding this event, but judging on the Russian lettering, it's not something we're going to get much coverage of. They are (or were) either closely connected to BTC-E (perhaps a mod or support staff), or they are 'victims' desperately looking to gain back access to their funds. I personally hint at the latter mentioned. If everything goes according to plan, it will take 2-3 days at most before we are going to see them relaunch. I hope we'll be able to withdraw BTC and other crypto funds without any verification at the early stage. I am not going to waste a single second in leaving my funds there for longer than needed. The only thing I will be patiently waiting for, is how the market rate of the tokens will develop itself.
member
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In the fray since 2013.
August 30, 2017, 04:23:00 AM
Is this some blockchain conference in Russia?

This is getting Epic faster than I thought...
full member
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Merit: 100
August 30, 2017, 01:49:47 AM
what's that event? and who are these guys?
sr. member
Activity: 699
Merit: 438
August 29, 2017, 06:49:29 PM
"3 days before launch!" Shocked

3 дня дo cтapтa!



erk
hero member
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Merit: 500
August 29, 2017, 06:37:11 PM

Unfortunately that's what my source told me too . The USA did not get jack sheyt. If they did, it'd have been all over the news as in the past.

The BTC-e admin said that their servers that the FBI seized were encrypted.
We already know what happened to the fiat:

https://www.okpay.com/en/company/news/mayzus-official-statement-in-connection-with-btc-e-closure/


legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1196
STOP SNITCHIN'
August 29, 2017, 05:13:32 PM
If they come back i withdrawal my %55 funds immediately. Then give the %55 to Mafia for cutting their throats because of scamming my 45% funds. Believe me folks. This is exit scam. Don't let they fool us. Find those M*Fs and give them to Mafia. FBI and US goverment hasn't any relation to this. They made this story for scamming us.
This is my message: You can't escape forever. Mafia is behind you

Unfortunately that's what my source told me too . The USA did not get jack sheyt. If they did, it'd have been all over the news as in the past.

The US was unable to seize much outright; that much is clear. But that is not to say that vast sums of fiat money are not frozen.

Mayzus is no stranger to this game. As I suspected from the start, the vast majority of fiat funds were held outside of the reach of US law enforcement. Seizing their Mongolian bank accounts? LOL, good luck! The only way the US could have frozen most of the funds preemptively would have been if Mayzus were working with the feds to take down BTC-e.

You don't "exit scam" by having the DOJ unseal an indictment against you, and by having a dozen federal agencies publish a press release about "taking down your criminal enterprise." The US couldn't arrest or extradite Mayzus if they wanted to, and that's partly why this situation exists.

I actually believe there is a possibility that much of the frozen funds may eventually be recovered, because a) the US may lack jurisdiction where funds are held and b) they may not have sufficient leverage over Mayzus. Sergey Mayzus is walking a tightrope: trying to maintain legitimacy by distancing himself from BTC-e (while never risking stepping foot where he can be extradited), while also maintaining control of the funds in question.
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 502
August 29, 2017, 04:09:40 PM
Well I only had crypto, but I agree to bail out FIAT holders.

Anything else is just childish...

55% is infinite times better than 0%.

If they do return, and I believe they will, it will be epic.



The majority of BTC_e traders were an optimistic and reasonable bunch. This is evidenced by the good natured discourse in the trollbox.

I'm pretty sure that the fiat holders would be happy to take the loss as it was fiat that was confiscated by the feds. No doubt the crypto holders would offer to share the loss, but fiat holders would surely refuse  out of politeness
legendary
Activity: 1694
Merit: 1002
Go Big or Go Home.....
August 29, 2017, 01:52:20 PM
If they come back i withdrawal my %55 funds immediately. Then give the %55 to Mafia for cutting their throats because of scamming my 45% funds. Believe me folks. This is exit scam. Don't let they fool us. Find those M*Fs and give them to Mafia. FBI and US goverment hasn't any relation to this. They made this story for scamming us.
This is my message: You can't escape forever. Mafia is behind you

Unfortunately that's what my source told me too . The USA did not get jack sheyt. If they did, it'd have been all over the news as in the past.
newbie
Activity: 19
Merit: 0
August 29, 2017, 01:31:01 PM
amazing the level of Morons that enter this post cryin about I was in coin or fiat, it was a fkn trading platform.  They have already stated the 55% 45% gig, so either post something worthy or stfu
newbie
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August 29, 2017, 01:22:05 PM
it would be so epic...
member
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In the fray since 2013.
August 29, 2017, 12:14:39 PM
Well I only had crypto, but I agree to bail out FIAT holders.

Anything else is just childish...

55% is infinite times better than 0%.

If they do return, and I believe they will, it will be epic.

sr. member
Activity: 251
Merit: 257
August 29, 2017, 12:01:35 PM
1) Feds take fiat  from BTC-e
2) Crypto holder have to bail out fiat holders yet again through socialised loss

Couldn't have written in better myself. Fiat is basically gone and crypto holders are basically bailing out fiat holders. I only had crypto there and while it sucks that a good chunk of my crypto is being used to help fiat holders I understand why.

You guys are funny. You deposited coins to an exchange. That means they were not your coins. The centralized exchange you trusted lost a shitload of money, and the loss is being transferred to you. It doesn't matter what IOUs your balance showed.

I get it, you want more money -- don't we all? Fiat holders wanted to BTC holders to take the full loss on Bitfinex, too, but of course that's not how it went.
member
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August 29, 2017, 11:25:49 AM
1) Feds take fiat  from BTC-e
2) Crypto holder have to bail out fiat holders yet again through socialised loss



Couldn't have written in better myself. Fiat is basically gone and crypto holders are basically bailing out fiat holders. I only had crypto there and while it sucks that a good chunk of my crypto is being used to help fiat holders I understand why.
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 502
August 29, 2017, 10:28:39 AM
1) Feds take fiat  from BTC-e
2) Crypto holder have to bail out fiat holders yet again through socialised loss

newbie
Activity: 22
Merit: 0
August 29, 2017, 10:22:01 AM
If they come back i withdrawal my %55 funds immediately. Then give the %55 to Mafia for cutting their throats because of scamming my 45% funds. Believe me folks. This is exit scam. Don't let they fool us. Find those M*Fs and give them to Mafia. FBI and US goverment hasn't any relation to this. They made this story for scamming us.
This is my message: You can't escape forever. Mafia is behind you

How exactly did they fabricate that the US government seized their domain and nailed them with a $110M fine?
sr. member
Activity: 1120
Merit: 255
August 29, 2017, 10:01:17 AM
If they come back i withdrawal my %55 funds immediately. Then give the %55 to Mafia for cutting their throats because of scamming my 45% funds. Believe me folks. This is exit scam. Don't let they fool us. Find those M*Fs and give them to Mafia. FBI and US goverment hasn't any relation to this. They made this story for scamming us.
This is my message: You can't escape forever. Mafia is behind you
newbie
Activity: 22
Merit: 0
August 29, 2017, 09:58:54 AM
Let me get this straight... does btc-e plan to REDEEM individual coin tokens for actual real coins at some time in the future?

the new exchange will redeem each token for a value of 1USD in the future (When they have more funds I'm guessing), and not sure which coin / currency they will exchange it to.
full member
Activity: 216
Merit: 100
August 29, 2017, 08:51:36 AM
Let me get this straight... does btc-e plan to REDEEM individual coin tokens for actual real coins at some time in the future?
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1483
August 29, 2017, 04:01:11 AM
I was thinking today how it would be unfair if they only issued token for USD value for the 45% as the money will be frozen and unable to be used to invest in something until it is back to it's current value but hearing that they are issuing individual tokens for each currency makes it perfectly fair now.

The only unfair thing now I see is people who were in fiat at the time but shouldn't have traded to fiat to begin with. Always believe in BTC.

you only look at it from a "hodler" perspective, which is odd -- why the hell would such a person keep coins on an exchange? if you "always believe in BTC" then you wouldn't be trading it against other coins, either.

freezing the asset value at the time of the force majeure puts everyone in the same boat, rather than favoring crypto holders.

People who were in fiat at the time were in fiat because they were probably half way through a short trade.
Given slightly different timing we would have been back in coin and better off than people who hadnt done the trade in the beggining.

damn straight. those of us holding USD at the time made the exact right call. all the other exchanges continued downwards. i had bids at $2350-2400 and they probably would have been hit if vinnik's dumb ass was vacationing in odessa instead of greece.

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