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Quote from: Scheede on August 27, 2017, 08:24:22 AM

Dear friends,

I lost 28 ETH from MyEtherWallet (by a stupid mistake myself) and was tracking them since.
Tonight they ended up on this wallet: https://etherscan.io/address/0x41d57e163b6c64fca2cd6535fcaa199b1fedd98b

... which seems to be the same final destination of the funds that were stolen in the BTC-e hack? (through this wallet: https://etherscan.io/address/0xc40ea11924656f2a68a00280526433cff5bd0058)

Was the official BTC-e - Wallet this one? https://etherscan.io/address/0x91337a300e0361bddb2e377dd4e88ccb7796663d

seems like:
https://busy.org/bitcoin/@truthforce/btc-e-wallet-just-receieved-2-cents-of-eth-withdrew-2-cents-of-eth-then-send-usd99-000-000-of-eth-485-000-eth-sent-5-hours-ago
https://www.facebook.com/groups/bitcoin.tw/permalink/1339338869497355/
https://medium.com/crypt-bytes-tech/whats-up-with-btc-e-is-it-exit-scam-2de2952ec7d
https://bitcoiner.today/es/btc-e-intervenida-por-el-fbi/

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So can I conclude, that my assets are in the same hands as those from the BTC-e - hack?

update: I think the final destination of my funds is the same as for all those of the BTC-e - hack !?

BTC-e - wallet (I think): https://etherscan.io/address/0x91337a300e0361bddb2e377dd4e88ccb7796663d

Sent to https://etherscan.io/address/0xc40ea11924656f2a68a00280526433cff5bd0058
(https://etherscan.io/tx/0x632eecae5343f70a03e07497c6158d9900c23cd829d4b9a18d992d73c93fd833)

Sent to https://etherscan.io/address/0x41d57e163b6c64fca2cd6535fcaa199b1fedd98b
(https://etherscan.io/tx/0xe3aafb3a1b4944beb94726ca6668ab6775957d5395c417f09801719daa349d00)

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So far so right, or?!

So this means, if - whoever - will find the BTC-e - hackers I will know who is holding my funds, too?!

Do you know anything I could do with this information?

Kind regards
Stefan

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Quote from: illinest on August 26, 2017, 06:27:50 AM

Quote from: mayax on August 26, 2017, 06:15:27 AM

BTC-e owners are OK and they are making money. LOL

If the haircut is 55%, then I think the admins are making good money, and setting up a retirement fund for themselves. Interesting find with Exmo. I suppose it's not conclusive, but it's close enough.

One thing I don't get.... why run BTC-e, and Exmo, and xBTCe, and...?

55% is suspciously clean.. i.e just a bit over half. Admins mush be keeping a war chest of funds.

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Dear friends,

I lost 28 ETH from MyEtherWallet (by a stupid mistake myself) and was tracking them since.
Tonight they ended up on this wallet: https://etherscan.io/address/0x41d57e163b6c64fca2cd6535fcaa199b1fedd98b

... which seems to be the same final destination of the funds that were stolen in the BTC-e hack? (through this wallet: https://etherscan.io/address/0xc40ea11924656f2a68a00280526433cff5bd0058)

Was the official BTC-e - Wallet this one? https://etherscan.io/address/0x91337a300e0361bddb2e377dd4e88ccb7796663d

seems like:
https://busy.org/bitcoin/@truthforce/btc-e-wallet-just-receieved-2-cents-of-eth-withdrew-2-cents-of-eth-then-send-usd99-000-000-of-eth-485-000-eth-sent-5-hours-ago
https://www.facebook.com/groups/bitcoin.tw/permalink/1339338869497355/
https://medium.com/crypt-bytes-tech/whats-up-with-btc-e-is-it-exit-scam-2de2952ec7d
https://bitcoiner.today/es/btc-e-intervenida-por-el-fbi/

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So can I conclude, that my assets are in the same hands as those from the BTC-e - hack?

update: I think the final destination of my funds is the same as for all those of the BTC-e - hack !?

BTC-e - wallet (I think): https://etherscan.io/address/0x91337a300e0361bddb2e377dd4e88ccb7796663d

Sent to https://etherscan.io/address/0xc40ea11924656f2a68a00280526433cff5bd0058
(https://etherscan.io/tx/0x632eecae5343f70a03e07497c6158d9900c23cd829d4b9a18d992d73c93fd833)

Sent to https://etherscan.io/address/0x41d57e163b6c64fca2cd6535fcaa199b1fedd98b
(https://etherscan.io/tx/0xe3aafb3a1b4944beb94726ca6668ab6775957d5395c417f09801719daa349d00)

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So far so right, or?!

So this means, if - whoever - will find the BTC-e - hackers I will know who is holding my funds, too?!

Do you know anything I could do with this information?

Kind regards
Stefan

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Quote from: fright on August 27, 2017, 07:46:52 AM

what is happening at russian thread of update 7? 154 pages?
What are they discussing so much about?

Flaming...

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what is happening at russian thread of update 7? 154 pages?
What are they discussing so much about?

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Quote from: 1Referee on August 26, 2017, 03:41:10 PM

Quote from: letsbereasonable on August 26, 2017, 01:28:02 PM

Right... so no service to US Residents... they do not say how we are going to get our coins... if they are even going to give them to us...

I am quite sure that they will be refunding everything as far as they can - meaning, if you just withdraw your funds, you'll be fine. If they end up preventing US citizens from loging in, your best shot will be to make use of a VPN, or have a trusted (non US) forum escrow take out the funds for you. Them not offering services anymore to US citizens definitely doesn't mean you can kiss your funds goodbye. Most of the people there never even verified themselves, so in the end, there is no way to prove where you come from since IP's can be 'faked' due to proxies and VPN's, etc. If they really end up coming back, you should be getting your funds out without much problems, or at least, what's left of your funds, more precisely said.

This is my thinking as well. We'll see as the admins continue to answer more questions and as we approach the supposed launch date. I think there's a decent chance they will have people simply confirm that they are not US residents. They already said that the first tier of verification doesn't require any information. That just leaves the question of IP address. The only example I can think of is Bitfinex. When they relaunched last year, as long as you said you weren't a US resident, there were no IP restrictions. They haven't been super forthright answering questions about US users at this point (probably for plausible deniability).

US users with lots of funds on the exchange... that's a bit tricky. In that case, it's probably best to look into selling the account to someone who is willing and able to verify.

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Quote from: letsbereasonable on August 26, 2017, 01:28:02 PM

Right... so no service to US Residents... they do not say how we are going to get our coins... if they are even going to give them to us...

I am quite sure that they will be refunding everything as far as they can - meaning, if you just withdraw your funds, you'll be fine. If they end up preventing US citizens from loging in, your best shot will be to make use of a VPN, or have a trusted (non US) forum escrow take out the funds for you. Them not offering services anymore to US citizens definitely doesn't mean you can kiss your funds goodbye. Most of the people there never even verified themselves, so in the end, there is no way to prove where you come from since IP's can be 'faked' due to proxies and VPN's, etc. If they really end up coming back, you should be getting your funds out without much problems, or at least, what's left of your funds, more precisely said.

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STOP SNITCHIN'

Quote from: gnurta on August 26, 2017, 11:54:07 AM

I'm curious how they are going to treat verified U.S. customers from the old site. Grin

Maybe give them 24-48 hrs to withdraw funds and then shutdown their accounts.

I think that's a bit dramatic. They are setting this up so they can try to deny that they serve US customers. If you were a verified US customer, then your documents have conveniently been "destroyed" and you are back to a basic account with withdrawal restrictions:

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Do I need to go through the verification again?
If already passed and verification was

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Depends on the balance.
Alas, the data on your verification was destroyed when the servers were removed.

Large accounts (US or not) need to verify if they hope to get considerable funds out quickly. So large US account owners might need to make arrangements to prove that they live in Canada or Mexico (not a big deal if 5-6 figures is on the line).

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Right... so no service to US Residents... they do not say how we are going to get our coins... if they are even going to give them to us...

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Latest news that I read is that they are promising 'daily' updates to their customers.

https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-exchange-btc-e-promises-daily-updates-relaunch-attempt/

I still think this is a welcoming news so at least so are not totally in the dark as what is really going on behind the background. This is no joke, a lot of us has lost big chunks of funds and it's only right that we should be receiving updates from them. Of course, I wish that they can really give back to the rightful individual who is not involved in the illegal activities the money they rightfully deserved, but how can BTC-e distinguished if from the dirty laundry money? There are still a lot of unanswered questions that should be dealt with before we can finally see our funds return.

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Quote from: gollygosh on August 26, 2017, 12:32:15 PM

https://news.bitcoin.com/u-s-pressures-btc-e-exchange-as-they-plan-to-distribute-funds-next-month/?utm_source=OneSignal%20Push&utm_medium=notification&utm_campaign=Push%20Notifications

same old news. that a seized exchanger will reopen the website through a regulated investment company and that they will give the funds back and more than that, they will restart the normal business Huh

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https://news.bitcoin.com/u-s-pressures-btc-e-exchange-as-they-plan-to-distribute-funds-next-month/?utm_source=OneSignal%20Push&utm_medium=notification&utm_campaign=Push%20Notifications

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I'm curious how they are going to treat verified U.S. customers from the old site. Grin

Maybe give them 24-48 hrs to withdraw funds and then shutdown their accounts.

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Yes, if it speaks Russian it's btce.

Reason for the many in between connections are how Russians generally operate: They make use of other people's services much more than in western world.

mayax

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Quote from: illinest on August 26, 2017, 06:27:50 AM

Quote from: mayax on August 26, 2017, 06:15:27 AM

BTC-e owners are OK and they are making money. LOL

If the haircut is 55%, then I think the admins are making good money, and setting up a retirement fund for themselves. Interesting find with Exmo. I suppose it's not conclusive, but it's close enough.

One thing I don't get.... why run BTC-e, and Exmo, and xBTCe, and...?

it is VERY conclusive. Exmo=BTC-e = xBTCe

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Quote from: mayax on August 26, 2017, 06:15:27 AM

BTC-e owners are OK and they are making money. LOL

If the haircut is 55%, then I think the admins are making good money, and setting up a retirement fund for themselves. Interesting find with Exmo. I suppose it's not conclusive, but it's close enough.

One thing I don't get.... why run BTC-e, and Exmo, and xBTCe, and...?

mayax

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for those who are believing in shit exchangers like BTC-e and in their honesty, that they will give your the funds back or other sci-fi scenarios, Exmo.com= BTC-e.com LOL

The BTC-e owners are running other exchangers without problems.

Exmo.com is one of them.

EUROSTYLE ADVISOR LTD registered btc-e.nz which belongs BTC-e.com

EUROSTYLE ADVISOR LTD registered Exmo.com

btc-e.top redirects to exmo.com now. a while ago, btc-e.top was redirected to btc-e.com

in short, exmo.com = btc-e

so, dear fanatics who sustain BTC-e and their shit stories about a possible come back, stop dreaming and stop shilling. you are doing a big disservice to this e-currency called BTC.

BTC-e owners are OK and they are making money. LOL

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Paging mayax. We need an update on the prospects for refunds. Kiss

Conversion/loss scenarios not set in stone yet:

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Today we will publish 3 variants of conversion on balance sheets, that everyone could express their opinion.

Sort of unclear what they mean regarding US customers. This response is to 1) the notion that US customers were an order of magnitude more in numbers than those from CIS/Russian-speaking countries and 2) that they should steal US customer funds and give everyone else 100% back:

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Let's do without crazy questions.
We did not work with US users, this was a question answered by him.
Foreign users have about 30% and they will also be paid.

It sounds to me (based on broken Google translate Tongue

) like they are going for plausible deniability. "We did not work with US users...... Foreign users...will also be paid."

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Quote from: cryptomole on August 26, 2017, 04:20:33 AM

I wish this were the case & I think that this would be fair because most fiat holders were only holding fiat by chance and would probably have been in coin if the timing were slightly different.
However I think they propose to set the conversion date once the exchange is up.

"With a balance of 1000 USD, after conversion you will receive 55% in BTC, LTC, ETH (at exchange rate on the day of conversion) and 450 USDET. By this principle all koins and fiates will be converted. "

If not based on value at time of closure, then it should at least be converted as [date of closure] + [date of opening] / 2. This way, both crypto and fiat holders are hedged against the volatility that followed the exchange closure.

Also, can anybody who reads Russian update us on the situation of US customers? Thanks!

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Quote from: cryptomole on August 26, 2017, 04:20:33 AM

I wish this were the case & I think that this would be fair because most fiat holders were only holding fiat by chance and would probably have been in coin if the timing were slightly different.
However I think they propose to set the conversion date once the exchange is up.

"With a balance of 1000 USD, after conversion you will receive 55% in BTC, LTC, ETH (at exchange rate on the day of conversion) and 450 USDET. By this principle all koins and fiates will be converted. "

It sounds like a reasonable proposal, the first few days of trade will be exciting, I would imagine a lot of people will want to withdraw their 55% in crypto asap out of fear that the exchange may go offline again, however the BTC-e admin sounds pretty serious if they have a legal team and backing from and investor. Didn't see Gox or Cryptsy make an effort to keep going like that.

Trade in the exchange tokens need to do their price discovery. I have seen exchange tokens do very well in the elsewhere. USDET could be a popular hedge like Tether. I will be keen to see how well they trade.

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