Topic: BTC-e hacked ?? - page 38. (Read 199749 times)

Quote from: Slow death on August 18, 2017, 06:57:13 AM

There were MANY warnings about BTC-e as they are about Poloniex, Kraken and Bitfinex. Mark my words literally : all these exchangers will be closed soon. I said the same about BTC-e and literally it was like that

today, many are still using these exchangers despite the high risks and they will come whining that some "authority" seized their funds (like they are doing with BTC-e now ).

yes, this thing is amazing.

Are you forecasting closure for Bitstamp , Coinbase, Bittrex as well even though they're regulated ?

Bittrex is NOT regulated so it can be closed anytime.

I did not know that information

I know it may sound like I came here to make jokes, but the intention is not this, does anyone here believe that can recover his bitcoin?

That's because it's BS, mayax is a troll and should be on everyone's Ignore List.

Bittrex is a crypto only exchange, no fiat.
The only place that regulates pure crypto exchanges is Washington State, and both Bitfinex and Poloniex don't service customers from there as part of the terms and condition.

I am sorry to say that you are misinformed(I don't want to say that you are so stupid because you are an arrogant kid)

according to FINCEN : a person is an exchanger and a money transmitter if the person accepts de-centralized virtual currency from one person and transmits it to another person as part of the acceptance and transfer of currency, funds, or other value that substitutes for currency.

so, ALL the exchangers are MSB(even they don't deal with fiat), including the miners who are selling bitcoin for currency, little snotty .

erk

hero member

Activity: 826

Merit: 500

There were MANY warnings about BTC-e as they are about Poloniex, Kraken and Bitfinex. Mark my words literally : all these exchangers will be closed soon. I said the same about BTC-e and literally it was like that

today, many are still using these exchangers despite the high risks and they will come whining that some "authority" seized their funds (like they are doing with BTC-e now ).

yes, this thing is amazing.

Are you forecasting closure for Bitstamp , Coinbase, Bittrex as well even though they're regulated ?

Bittrex is NOT regulated so it can be closed anytime.

I did not know that information

I know it may sound like I came here to make jokes, but the intention is not this, does anyone here believe that can recover his bitcoin?

That's because it's BS, mayax is a troll and should be on everyone's Ignore List.

Bittrex is a crypto only exchange, no fiat.
The only place that regulates pure crypto exchanges is Washington State, and both Bitfinex and Poloniex don't service customers from there as part of the terms and condition.

Slow death

legendary

Activity: 3164

Merit: 1127

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: erk on August 18, 2017, 05:59:08 AM

There were MANY warnings about BTC-e as they are about Poloniex, Kraken and Bitfinex. Mark my words literally : all these exchangers will be closed soon. I said the same about BTC-e and literally it was like that

today, many are still using these exchangers despite the high risks and they will come whining that some "authority" seized their funds (like they are doing with BTC-e now ).

yes, this thing is amazing.

Are you forecasting closure for Bitstamp , Coinbase, Bittrex as well even though they're regulated ?

Bittrex is NOT regulated so it can be closed anytime.

I did not know that information

I know it may sound like I came here to make jokes, but the intention is not this, does anyone here believe that can recover his bitcoin?

ahmedjadoon

legendary

Activity: 1414

Merit: 1000

Quote from: ahmedjadoon on August 18, 2017, 05:17:51 AM

Maybe pay via some third party payment processor like Webmoney. But, it could also be unsafe.
Is it possible that they pay us via USDT? This seems to be safer.

You are missing a very basic point, without access to the seized fiat accounts, BTC-e have a massive shortfall in their assets to pay anything with!

I'm not missing anything. BTC-E already announced that they have access to 55% funds and losses will be socialized among crypto and fiat holders. Both crypto and fiat holders will get 55% instantly on relaunch and the rest in the form debt tokens.

erk

hero member

Activity: 826

Merit: 500

Quote from: ahmedjadoon on August 18, 2017, 05:17:51 AM

Maybe pay via some third party payment processor like Webmoney. But, it could also be unsafe.
Is it possible that they pay us via USDT? This seems to be safer.

You are missing a very basic point, without access to the seized fiat accounts, BTC-e have a massive shortfall in their assets to pay anything with!

ahmedjadoon

legendary

Activity: 1414

Merit: 1000

Quote from: erk on August 18, 2017, 03:34:52 AM

Quote from: ahmedjadoon on August 18, 2017, 03:21:20 AM

They didn't clearly mention that they have aborted the plan to give fiat users mix of seven coin but one of their post seems to suggest what you are saying.
I think if they are able to pay in fiat by some means it would be better. As ALT could easily crash and Fiat users end up losing more.

How are they going to pay fiat when the fiat accounts are what was seized?

Perhaps they can conjure fiat out of thing air like central banks do?

Maybe pay via some third party payment processor like Webmoney. But, it could also be unsafe.
Is it possible that they pay us via USDT? This seems to be safer.

erk

hero member

Activity: 826

Merit: 500

Quote from: ahmedjadoon on August 18, 2017, 03:21:20 AM

They didn't clearly mention that they have aborted the plan to give fiat users mix of seven coin but one of their post seems to suggest what you are saying.
I think if they are able to pay in fiat by some means it would be better. As ALT could easily crash and Fiat users end up losing more.

How are they going to pay fiat when the fiat accounts are what was seized?

Perhaps they can conjure fiat out of thing air like central banks do?

ahmedjadoon

legendary

Activity: 1414

Merit: 1000

Quote from: YesLOST on August 14, 2017, 11:49:34 PM

Quote from: R2Pleasent on August 14, 2017, 09:57:24 PM

Quote from: ahmedjadoon on August 14, 2017, 09:19:18 PM

So, no more actual refund for fiat holders? They will be paid 100% in shit tokens?
This is unfair as I never actually deposited fiat. I deposited bitcoin and converted it to USD for trading purpose.

Fiat holders will get a mix of 7 cryptos for 55% of their balance, BTE tokens for other 45%

No, after last update it is clear, everybody gets his "balance currency". E.g. Coin holder gets 55% coins and Fiat holder gets 55% fiat. Then you can do whatever you want or what is possible with your balance.

They didn't clearly mention that they have aborted the plan to give fiat users mix of seven coin but one of their post seems to suggest what you are saying.
I think if they are able to pay in fiat by some means it would be better. As ALT could easily crash and Fiat users end up losing more.

RealKariverson

full member

Activity: 233

Merit: 100

Quote from: bj9k on August 17, 2017, 12:41:00 PM

Bittrex is NOT regulated so it can be closed anytime.

Yesterday I have received fake Bittrex notification about my account to be frozen because of inactivity. After inspecting their link that link was actually for bittrex.CAM instead of .COM

lol might as well been bittrex.SCAM xD

bj9k

newbie

Activity: 56

Merit: 0

Bittrex is NOT regulated so it can be closed anytime.

Yesterday I have received fake Bittrex notification about my account to be frozen because of inactivity. After inspecting their link that link was actually for bittrex.CAM instead of .COM

But anyway I have never opened account on Bittrex anyway. Seems that this phishing issue is based on BTC-e stolen data couple of years ago.

mayax

legendary

Activity: 1470

Merit: 1004

There were MANY warnings about BTC-e as they are about Poloniex, Kraken and Bitfinex. Mark my words literally : all these exchangers will be closed soon. I said the same about BTC-e and literally it was like that

today, many are still using these exchangers despite the high risks and they will come whining that some "authority" seized their funds (like they are doing with BTC-e now ).

yes, this thing is amazing.

Are you forecasting closure for Bitstamp , Coinbase, Bittrex as well even though they're regulated ?

Bittrex is NOT regulated so it can be closed anytime.

Lionel

sr. member

Activity: 613

Merit: 305

Quote from: richardsNY on August 16, 2017, 06:33:21 PM

There were MANY warnings about BTC-e as they are about Poloniex, Kraken and Bitfinex. Mark my words literally : all these exchangers will be closed soon. I said the same about BTC-e and literally it was like that

today, many are still using these exchangers despite the high risks and they will come whining that some "authority" seized their funds (like they are doing with BTC-e now ).

yes, this thing is amazing.

Are you forecasting closure for Bitstamp , Coinbase, Bittrex as well even though they're regulated ?

mayax

legendary

Activity: 1470

Merit: 1004

Quote from: mayax on August 16, 2017, 03:26:34 PM

it's amazing how many "believers" are on this forum

How is that so amazing? People at this point have nothing anymore to lose, but from this point everything (or more precisely said, at least something) to gain. You are just making fun of people having lost large sums of money, and that's a disgusting practice. I seriously don't understand why you still keep replying to this thread -- just go spend your time a bit more productive elsewhere. People are literally done with you....

the "point have nothing anymore to lose" is not an excuse to be brainwashed or without common sense. I am not making fun of anybody even they would deserve it. There were MANY warnings about BTC-e as they are about Poloniex, Kraken and Bitfinex. Mark my words literally : all these exchangers will be closed soon. I said the same about BTC-e and literally it was like that

today, many are still using these exchangers despite the high risks and they will come whining that some "authority" seized their funds (like they are doing with BTC-e now ).

yes, this thing is amazing.

figmentofmyass

legendary

Activity: 1652

Merit: 1483

Quote from: cryptomole on August 17, 2017, 01:50:06 AM

If there is one thing we all know is that socalism sucks diseased horse cock. Socialising funds is just as bad. FIat holder shouldnt be bailed out by wise crypto holders

"Wise Crypto Holders"
What does that mean? If you remember, there was a well anticipated dip at the time the exchange went down. Many were in fiat in anticipation of this and were mid way through what would have turned out to be a good trade. So whats your point?
Are you saying trading is unwise and that holding coin is wise? If thats the case - why hold coin on an exchnge?

it's just the expected talk from crypto holders on btc-e, same as there was from USD holders on bitfinex last year. holding any assets on a centralized exchange is obviously a risk, because any event like this (including a hack of crypto wallets) can make an exchange insolvent. everybody just wants to lose as little as possible. the fact is that this is somewhat of a force majeure, and some effort should be made by btc-e to minimize losses for all.

there is also the question of the BCH.....any word on that? they should certainly be adding markets for that, and adding it to the basket of coins.

cryptomole

newbie

Activity: 53

Merit: 0

Quote from: mayax on August 16, 2017, 03:26:34 PM

If there is one thing we all know is that socalism sucks diseased horse cock. Socialising funds is just as bad. FIat holder shouldnt be bailed out by wise crypto holders

"Wise Crypto Holders"
What does that mean? If you remember, there was a well anticipated dip at the time the exchange went down. Many were in fiat in anticipation of this and were mid way through what would have turned out to be a good trade. So whats your point?
Are you saying trading is unwise and that holding coin is wise? If thats the case - why hold coin on an exchnge?

richardsNY

legendary

Activity: 1232

Merit: 1091

it's amazing how many "believers" are on this forum

How is that so amazing? People at this point have nothing anymore to lose, but from this point everything (or more precisely said, at least something) to gain. You are just making fun of people having lost large sums of money, and that's a disgusting practice. I seriously don't understand why you still keep replying to this thread -- just go spend your time a bit more productive elsewhere. People are literally done with you....

romani245

sr. member

Activity: 267

Merit: 255

Quote from: mayax on August 16, 2017, 03:26:34 PM

If there is one thing we all know is that socalism sucks diseased horse cock. Socialising funds is just as bad. FIat holder shouldnt be bailed out by wise crypto holders

Holding crypto on centralized exchanges has historically been a great way to lose all your funds.

Fiat holders could have (and did) say the same thing when Bitfinex lost 120,000 bitcoins. They said "screw the BTC holders, let them have their losses and give me my money." If Bitfinex gave BTC holders 100% of their loss and USD holders no losses, much of their userbase would have left the exchange.

The same logic probably applies here. The exchange needs to try to please the most people; they can't do that by leaving crypto holders mostly whole and screwing fiat holders.

YesLOST

newbie

Activity: 56

Merit: 0

I am wondering how you can still breath

Are you waiting to receive my limp penis?

mayax

legendary

Activity: 1470

Merit: 1004

Quote from: bonker on August 16, 2017, 03:04:43 PM

Quote from: bj9k on August 16, 2017, 02:32:12 PM

Quote from: bj9k on August 16, 2017, 02:32:12 PM

If there is one thing we all know is that socalism sucks diseased horse cock. Socialising funds is just as bad. FIat holder shouldnt be bailed out by wise crypto holders

Crypto holders does not need to keep their crypto at an exchange.

Elite A-tier gold-star pro-traders have to keep their crypto on exchanges as their bots trade 24x7

In fact even bots should be re-imbursed for stress

In fact anyone not trading with a bot should forfit their crypto

then don't whine and beg for your funds. BTC-e will never give any shit back LOL

it's amazing how many "believers" are on this forum Cheesy

you don't have any logic, nothing. how can a shit anonymous company refund your funds while 50% from its funds are seized? they have a warrant on their names and they will never be able to open any exchanger website.

I am wondering how you can still breath

bonker

hero member

Activity: 784

Merit: 502