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February 27, 2014, 04:40:16 PM
Weirdest case scenario: both are the same person because he or she is schizophrenic or something... (semi j/k)

Life is stranger than fiction.
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February 27, 2014, 03:15:45 PM
Mmm. I wouldn't invite someone I don't know personally to join the advisory board of my new startup.

Indeed. But she seems almost as out of reach as Deprived, besides the timid sign of life.

Best case scenario: both eventually return to business and fix things. As far as I'm concerned, I'm a very forgiving person when someone admits his mistakes and requests a second chance to do better. (Mark K is disqualified though, unless there is a real conspiracy against him that gags him, but that would sound more like the Ukyo song right now)

Worst case scenario*: both are the same person and it was just a basic runner / scam (but funds untouched Huh still makes no sense until they are)

Weirdest case scenario: both are the same person because he or she is schizophrenic or something... (semi j/k)

* assuming no one has died or ended up in jail, though he probably still could give a sign by proxy in the latter case
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February 27, 2014, 03:10:39 PM
https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=4582.msg124521#msg124521

Quote for the lazy:

evilscoop
please see - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4800018
If you are chasing deprived/DMS

While CT did have connections to him, he disappeared before we even began development of the platform.
We at CT have no knowledge of his real identity and have not had contact with him since November.

This is an unfortunate situation, and should we get more info we will share it, but deprived has no connection with CT and we have no recourse to contact him.

I'm almost certain Deprived knew Kate better than as an anonymous forum handle.

Mmm. I wouldn't invite someone I don't know personally to join the advisory board of my new startup.
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February 27, 2014, 02:44:50 PM
https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=4582.msg124521#msg124521

Quote for the lazy:

evilscoop
please see - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4800018
If you are chasing deprived/DMS

While CT did have connections to him, he disappeared before we even began development of the platform.
We at CT have no knowledge of his real identity and have not had contact with him since November.

This is an unfortunate situation, and should we get more info we will share it, but deprived has no connection with CT and we have no recourse to contact him.

I'm almost certain Deprived knew Kate better than as an anonymous forum handle.

At risk of looking like a conspiracy theory nutcase... I find it interesting that both times Kate has been away / uncontactable in the last few months coincide fairly well with periods where Deprived has been away / uncontactable.

Is Kate a soccer-loving alcoholic? Smiley
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February 27, 2014, 02:41:54 PM
https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=4582.msg124521#msg124521

Quote for the lazy:

evilscoop
please see - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4800018
If you are chasing deprived/DMS

While CT did have connections to him, he disappeared before we even began development of the platform.
We at CT have no knowledge of his real identity and have not had contact with him since November.

This is an unfortunate situation, and should we get more info we will share it, but deprived has no connection with CT and we have no recourse to contact him.

I'm almost certain Deprived knew Kate better than as an anonymous forum handle.

At risk of looking like a conspiracy theory nutcase... I find it interesting that both times Kate has been away / uncontactable in the last few months coincide fairly well with periods where Deprived has been away / uncontactable.
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February 27, 2014, 02:00:55 PM
https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=4582.msg124521#msg124521

Quote for the lazy:

evilscoop
please see - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4800018
If you are chasing deprived/DMS

While CT did have connections to him, he disappeared before we even began development of the platform.
We at CT have no knowledge of his real identity and have not had contact with him since November.

This is an unfortunate situation, and should we get more info we will share it, but deprived has no connection with CT and we have no recourse to contact him.

I'm almost certain Deprived knew Kate better than as an anonymous forum handle.
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February 27, 2014, 01:59:24 PM
https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=4582.msg124521#msg124521

Quote for the lazy:

evilscoop
please see - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4800018
If you are chasing deprived/DMS

While CT did have connections to him, he disappeared before we even began development of the platform.
We at CT have no knowledge of his real identity and have not had contact with him since November.

This is an unfortunate situation, and should we get more info we will share it, but deprived has no connection with CT and we have no recourse to contact him.
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February 27, 2014, 04:23:11 AM
I believe that Kate knows much more about Deprived than us. I don't understand why she kept quiet and ignore all our PMs this time.

I tried asking one of the Ciphermine people if they knew Deprived (not knew where he was, just *knew* him) but never got a reply. Have you asked Kate that?
She hasn't replied my PM sent long ago. I sent PM just after she declared her back.
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February 27, 2014, 01:33:09 AM
he's gone
:/
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February 26, 2014, 11:11:10 PM
I believe that Kate knows much more about Deprived than us. I don't understand why she kept quiet and ignore all our PMs this time.

I tried asking one of the Ciphermine people if they knew Deprived (not knew where he was, just *knew* him) but never got a reply. Have you asked Kate that?
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February 26, 2014, 10:47:14 PM
I believe that Kate knows much more about Deprived than us. I don't understand why she kept quiet and ignore all our PMs this time.
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February 26, 2014, 07:32:26 PM
I wonder what the terms of use of btct.co were. There might be nothing stopping them from handing over IP addresses (though they might choose not to for other reasons). Did you want to ask them about it so we don't double up?

I have conflicting thoughts about it:

  • On the one hand, until BTC reaches high enough prices to cover the expenses and justify it, I do not intend to finance complex, international legal actions to engage a discovery procedure to identify him. IP addresses and/or e-mail addresses probably wouldn't be of any use to me in light of this
  • On the other hand, the logs could be gone for good if I come to them with my requests in, say, 2 years or so

My idea right now is to PM them about this, mentioning that it's low priority (as a sysadmin I know it's not always trivial to dig info from old, massive, archived logs), and that I would understand their refusal if they are barred from doing it for ToS/legal reasons.

Yeah, fair enough. As a start we just guage their feelings about digging up the info. If it's easy to do and they're eager to help, all well and good. If not, at least we know.
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February 26, 2014, 07:09:49 PM
I wonder what the terms of use of btct.co were. There might be nothing stopping them from handing over IP addresses (though they might choose not to for other reasons). Did you want to ask them about it so we don't double up?

I have conflicting thoughts about it:

  • On the one hand, until BTC reaches high enough prices to cover the expenses and justify it, I do not intend to finance complex, international legal actions to engage a discovery procedure to identify him. IP addresses and/or e-mail addresses probably wouldn't be of any use to me in light of this
  • On the other hand, the logs could be gone for good if I come to them with my requests in, say, 2 years or so

My idea right now is to PM them about this, mentioning that it's low priority (as a sysadmin I know it's not always trivial to dig info from old, massive, archived logs), and that I would understand their refusal if they are barred from doing it for ToS/legal reasons.
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February 26, 2014, 07:02:15 PM
I have an email for Deprived and it is of no use. Just a gmail throwaway.
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February 26, 2014, 06:53:22 PM
I checked with Burnside, who happened to not have any personal info on Deprived other than that he goes by Jon and is in the UK, which I already knew.

I presume Theymos and Burnside both have logs with the IP addresses used by Deprived last year. This could be used to find his real identity, since I doubt that he used Tor and/or proxies. Now I understand that both of them would not want to give out that info without what I guess would be a subpoena, to avoid litigation from Deprived for disclosing the info if he's really done a runner.

On the other hand, as long as DMS funds remain untouched, I will favor the "personal issues" hypothesis rather than the runner one. Unlike creativex who obviously ran away with the funds and is now living off them, according to the blockchain.

I wonder what the terms of use of btct.co were. There might be nothing stopping them from handing over IP addresses (though they might choose not to for other reasons). Did you want to ask them about it so we don't double up?
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February 26, 2014, 06:50:46 PM
I've just PM'ed hazek, who is the Moderator of the Economics board for bitcointalk. Deprived has a hidden email address. I've asked hazek whether bitcointalk would be open to divulging it. It might be another blind alley but there's no harm in asking.
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February 26, 2014, 04:13:30 PM
I checked with Burnside, who happened to not have any personal info on Deprived other than that he goes by Jon and is in the UK, which I already knew.

I presume Theymos and Burnside both have logs with the IP addresses used by Deprived last year. This could be used to find his real identity, since I doubt that he used Tor and/or proxies. Now I understand that both of them would not want to give out that info without what I guess would be a subpoena, to avoid litigation from Deprived for disclosing the info if he's really done a runner.

On the other hand, as long as DMS funds remain untouched, I will favor the "personal issues" hypothesis rather than the runner one. Unlike creativex who obviously ran away with the funds and is now living off them, according to the blockchain.
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February 26, 2014, 04:00:52 PM
I checked with Burnside, who happened to not have any personal info on Deprived other than that he goes by Jon and is in the UK, which I already knew.
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February 26, 2014, 03:59:41 PM

There are people on this thread whose shares in DMS.* are worth a significant amount. Some of us may be interested in doing our own detective work sooner than next month. Is there any reason you can't divulge his real name here? Whatever has happened, we are due the opportunity to find out so we can work out what to do next.

The guy has been away for three months without explanation; I think he's waived his right to pseudonymity.

I am still looking into seeing what everyone at CT knew of him before I can really make many statements, because my interactions were a few internal E-mails from him - nothing that would allow you to track him down. Let me try to discuss Deprived's identity with the rest of the board, and if I can find out anything more, share it with you.

Having said this, the last communication I had with him was 11/15/2013.

Any news?

Kate must at least have an external email address for him. Even if it doesn't identify him of itself it could be the basis of looking for him.
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February 23, 2014, 07:35:53 AM
can't believe Deprived has done a runner.... or something happened.

His posts were always filled with so much useful information.... and he was a very smart fellow, always wiling to help someone out with there 'offering' or help expose scammers or people being dishonest.  He was basically the one person I trusted here (based on what he wrote).. I never had any interaction with him.

quite shocked by the hole thing. Its not looking good at all. Generally I dont give 2 shits, but I really hope Deprived is Ok and just hasnt been online due to some personal issues, which again, I hope are all resolved and good.
If deprived has done a runner... well... he was basically the last of the good Sad
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