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Wob
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August 11, 2014, 05:01:58 AM
Updated OP!


We're now asking the community to help raise funds for development purposes.  We currently have a lot in the pipeline, and we have need to fund Core Development, Website Development, Promotion and Marketing, etc.

All donations will be pooled into one large fund with which the dev team will then use on a need to need basis.  The process will be transparent and all funds being paid out will be listed on the new website.  

Our short term goal is to raise 5000 BTCD.  We hope the BitcoinDark community can provide the support we need to make BTCD one of the top coins around!

Please support BitcoinDark development by providing a donation to the following address:

RDtnnLj5LQ8YMxBJbHX1N4jNKeaC67FLGW

25 BTCD underway, I'll donate some more when my salary arrives!
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August 11, 2014, 04:56:25 AM
Updated OP!


We're now asking the community to help raise funds for development purposes.  We currently have a lot in the pipeline, and we have need to fund Core Development, Website Development, Promotion and Marketing, etc.

All donations will be pooled into one large fund with which the dev team will then use on a need to need basis.  The process will be transparent and all funds being paid out will be listed on the new website.  

Our short term goal is to raise 5000 BTCD.  We hope the BitcoinDark community can provide the support we need to make BTCD one of the top coins around!

Please support BitcoinDark development by providing a donation to the following address:

RDtnnLj5LQ8YMxBJbHX1N4jNKeaC67FLGW
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August 11, 2014, 04:44:44 AM
I have some questions for jl777/dev team;

i'm currently involved (hodling) a lot of coins for special tech/upcoming features; as you imagine i bought many btcd and keep hodling.

what prevents me from buying more is the fact that only anon through teleport + "nxt-like" interface (instadex is that if i understand it right) is planned so far; when exiting/promising stuff is also (i think) peering finance and decentralized "everything" - so storage. (not saying that anon is not important huh; but as an investor and jl777 plan I assume the community don't need to discuss too much about this; except for specific problems to come like dev team did with the encryption poll)

the roadmap until teleport/instadex etc is great; but hodling means long term; ur coding fast and it seems that people/the market love that; i'd love to see the community discussions oriented on the stuff to work on after anon implementation.

so maybe could i throw those questions now  Grin

after teleports; will you keep achieving what the community wants or will you choose the projects you will be working on ?

do you think you are capable doing "any" projects which could come from the community; and is that your plan ?

what's your opinion (if you have one) on counterparty platform; swarm project and storj/cloudcoin ?

Can we make an evolutive roadmap for a longer timeframe; obv subject to changes; but to keep checking what the community wants to use their btcd; and for the fellow hodlers to decide earlier if they want to keep hodling or diversify because the roadmap wouldn't fit their needs (i have in mind that crypto investment are mainly short term because of that lack of informations considering real future in years rather than weeks/months; if I invest in google i can check what are their plans/research fields etc way ahead)

I'm a bit like jl777 when he says he's not a very good trader; my strategy is more to buy low only than sell high and ping pong shit.

Having that kind of roadmap with the active communication of devs; i'd consider going more into btcd; and maybe i'm not alone.

So my longterm roadmap would be :

instadex
teleport anon feats: estimated release : end of september ? who cares :d (yaaay)
peering finance: creating assets with dividends in instadex on btcd blockchain: estimated release : no estimate < 8months
decentralized hosting: rent your hdd space for btcd: estimated release : no estimate <1 year
DAO: discuss the shit out of the DAO principle and make DAO management possible and noobproof/real life-ready: release date : none

i throw that as an example; so at this point we would be debating/discussing about peering finanace/decentralized hosting or DAO implementation while dev team would be finishing instadex/teleport; before release we would answer a poll with projects on the big roadmap listed asking what people want to see first in that map. idk how it worked but i remember some coins with voting features; voting wasn't really easy.

I recently voted in a poll for swarm through counterparty and it was easy as fuck : receive vote (token); send to 1yes 2no 3idk; done. maybe could we have a easy way to officially vote through btcd; and not using a 1337 forum like we're doing now Cheesy (btcd itself could be a dao maybe?  Grin)

tl;dr: i would like to see a bigger picture of btcd when reading the roadmap; implying community discussion and dev opinion (if the communication remains of that quality; that could be easily done) !

keep up the great work; some people are already of hodling that coin  Cheesy don't read me wrong : I just want btcd to improve; so i'm not criticizing for fun  Kiss
Wob
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August 11, 2014, 04:41:53 AM
Lurker here. I'm so glad I took the dark-pill a few weeks ago. I can finally sleep, thank you.
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August 11, 2014, 04:30:37 AM
How about Dark Boobie Traps...?  Grin




legendary
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August 11, 2014, 04:29:25 AM
james make great work.
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Jahaha
August 11, 2014, 04:02:39 AM
If your code is open source, people will find a way around and fork. Just as you mentioned, only cut-and-pasters will be stopped.
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August 11, 2014, 03:58:12 AM
It seems that AES totally winning the poll, so I think it is safe to default to that method.
You can always change it to any of the others and even do one after another after another.

So, now I want to do a new poll. Not sure if you know about BCNext and how he injected some flaws into the NXT code. People that just forked it would end up with a dead coin within a day. Since I am being very open to share Teleport tech with other coins for a small fee, I dont think it is so bad to do what BCNext did.

I came up with a way make it so that if anybody just blindly forks it, well, I wont be held responsible where their telepods end up. Now if they took the time to understand the 40,000 lines of code I wrote, then they could probably work around it, but I could get pretty clever in making the flaw virtually impossible to detect. They would have to be as good a coder as me to detect it. I call this the "teleport disruptor"

I would like a poll on whether to inject the teleport disruptor or not. Of course the BTCD Teleport will work fine, it would just be any other coin that attempts to take the BTCD's rightful spot as supreme teleporter of other coins, well you've seen the results of transporter accidents? Not a pretty thing. The scary thing for any that would attempt to do this is that it would appear to work fine for a while, so it probably wont happen during testing, but after they go live. Maybe it is even remotely triggered

They could just write something from scratch using the DarkPaper as reference.
Or they could just let BTCD teleport their coin for 1/1024'th fee

What do you think?

James

P.S. I wouldnt feel right in actually pushing the destruct button, so if we do this, I need some ruthless guy who wouldnt have a problem triggering the teleport disruptor on another coin.


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August 11, 2014, 03:19:02 AM
A cool name for the teleport disruptor : Ultima Ratio (regum)

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ultima+ratio+regum

-Last method
-The final argument
-The last resort (as force)    

The last resort. Short form for the metaphor "The Last Resort of Kings and Common Men" referring to the act of declaring war; used in the names the French sniper rifle PGM Ultima Ratio and the fictional Reason weapon system. Louis XIV of France had Ultima Ratio Regum ("last argument of kings") cast on the cannons of his armies; motto of the 1st Battalion 11th Marines; motto of the Artilleriregementet.
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August 11, 2014, 01:57:59 AM
It seems that AES totally winning the poll, so I think it is safe to default to that method.
You can always change it to any of the others and even do one after another after another.

So, now I want to do a new poll. Not sure if you know about BCNext and how he injected some flaws into the NXT code. People that just forked it would end up with a dead coin within a day. Since I am being very open to share Teleport tech with other coins for a small fee, I dont think it is so bad to do what BCNext did.

I came up with a way make it so that if anybody just blindly forks it, well, I wont be held responsible where their telepods end up. Now if they took the time to understand the 40,000 lines of code I wrote, then they could probably work around it, but I could get pretty clever in making the flaw virtually impossible to detect. They would have to be as good a coder as me to detect it. I call this the "teleport disruptor"

I would like a poll on whether to inject the teleport disruptor or not. Of course the BTCD Teleport will work fine, it would just be any other coin that attempts to take the BTCD's rightful spot as supreme teleporter of other coins, well you've seen the results of transporter accidents? Not a pretty thing. The scary thing for any that would attempt to do this is that it would appear to work fine for a while, so it probably wont happen during testing, but after they go live. Maybe it is even remotely triggered

They could just write something from scratch using the DarkPaper as reference.
Or they could just let BTCD teleport their coin for 1/1024'th fee

What do you think?

James

P.S. I wouldnt feel right in actually pushing the destruct button, so if we do this, I need some ruthless guy who wouldnt have a problem triggering the teleport disruptor on another coin.

With the mass copy and paste "devs" out there, I say implement it.  I am more than willing to pull the trigger on any "dev" that tries to claim this technology.
I think you need some sort of scary nickname!

Let's wait for the poll to confirm we are not in a pacifist community. I dont mind devs that add value, but cut and pasters, well they kind of make me upset.

James

New nickname?  Hmmm something scary, Tony Stewart?
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August 11, 2014, 01:48:50 AM
New poll up!

Please vote
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August 11, 2014, 01:43:28 AM
Good point on XNF. I can't find any audits or anything.

Is there a NXT asset for BTCD so I can purchase some on the AE? I can't seem to find one. Shark fund is quite a bit above my current NXT balance level to even get a handful of shares.

As soon as I get Teleport into testing I will get mgwBTCD live on NXT AE

Does this mean BTCD <--> NXT will be a go?  (sorry, I have not used the mgw)
legendary
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August 11, 2014, 01:38:54 AM
Yes James, implement the 'anti cloning' feature. It will safeguard the investment of people. Also, in due time you could decide to help other coins 'for free' or open source Teleport completely, but for now in these early development stages the copyright to this new technology will help the btcd platform to really stand above the rest.
I will be very helpful to coins that join the BTCD super network. With proper structuring of incentives, it is quite possible that a coin can get enough credits so that it covers their teleporting fees. After all, if a coin's network is bringing in lots of InstantDEX commissions, then the money is flowing into BTCD stakers, so we can give them credits against teleport fees.

Other possibilities too, but I want it to be clear that working with BTCD is much better option for other coins. They get to jump start things and it might even effectively be free, or they could even just make more revenue sharing than they are charged. This is what I expect to happen with NXT, so NXT nodes will probably end up with some sort of bonus.

I havent spent much time on the business model, but I am confident I can create a nice revenue stream for other coins and thus for BTCD stakers too. After all, BTCD will have quite an advanced monetization system in place and just allowing other coins to share in that is worth much more than their trying to clone Teleporting.

James
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August 11, 2014, 01:29:19 AM
It seems that AES totally winning the poll, so I think it is safe to default to that method.
You can always change it to any of the others and even do one after another after another.

So, now I want to do a new poll. Not sure if you know about BCNext and how he injected some flaws into the NXT code. People that just forked it would end up with a dead coin within a day. Since I am being very open to share Teleport tech with other coins for a small fee, I dont think it is so bad to do what BCNext did.

I came up with a way make it so that if anybody just blindly forks it, well, I wont be held responsible where their telepods end up. Now if they took the time to understand the 40,000 lines of code I wrote, then they could probably work around it, but I could get pretty clever in making the flaw virtually impossible to detect. They would have to be as good a coder as me to detect it. I call this the "teleport disruptor"

I would like a poll on whether to inject the teleport disruptor or not. Of course the BTCD Teleport will work fine, it would just be any other coin that attempts to take the BTCD's rightful spot as supreme teleporter of other coins, well you've seen the results of transporter accidents? Not a pretty thing. The scary thing for any that would attempt to do this is that it would appear to work fine for a while, so it probably wont happen during testing, but after they go live. Maybe it is even remotely triggered

They could just write something from scratch using the DarkPaper as reference.
Or they could just let BTCD teleport their coin for 1/1024'th fee

What do you think?

James

P.S. I wouldnt feel right in actually pushing the destruct button, so if we do this, I need some ruthless guy who wouldnt have a problem triggering the teleport disruptor on another coin.

With the mass copy and paste "devs" out there, I say implement it.  I am more than willing to pull the trigger on any "dev" that tries to claim this technology.
I think you need some sort of scary nickname!

Let's wait for the poll to confirm we are not in a pacifist community. I dont mind devs that add value, but cut and pasters, well they kind of make me upset.

James
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August 11, 2014, 01:28:57 AM
Yes James, implement the 'anti cloning' feature. It will safeguard the investment of people. Also, in due time you could decide to help other coins 'for free' or open source Teleport completely, but for now in these early development stages the copyright to this new technology will help the btcd platform to really stand above the rest.
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August 11, 2014, 01:19:14 AM
It seems that AES totally winning the poll, so I think it is safe to default to that method.
You can always change it to any of the others and even do one after another after another.

So, now I want to do a new poll. Not sure if you know about BCNext and how he injected some flaws into the NXT code. People that just forked it would end up with a dead coin within a day. Since I am being very open to share Teleport tech with other coins for a small fee, I dont think it is so bad to do what BCNext did.

I came up with a way make it so that if anybody just blindly forks it, well, I wont be held responsible where their telepods end up. Now if they took the time to understand the 40,000 lines of code I wrote, then they could probably work around it, but I could get pretty clever in making the flaw virtually impossible to detect. They would have to be as good a coder as me to detect it. I call this the "teleport disruptor"

I would like a poll on whether to inject the teleport disruptor or not. Of course the BTCD Teleport will work fine, it would just be any other coin that attempts to take the BTCD's rightful spot as supreme teleporter of other coins, well you've seen the results of transporter accidents? Not a pretty thing. The scary thing for any that would attempt to do this is that it would appear to work fine for a while, so it probably wont happen during testing, but after they go live. Maybe it is even remotely triggered

They could just write something from scratch using the DarkPaper as reference.
Or they could just let BTCD teleport their coin for 1/1024'th fee

What do you think?

James

P.S. I wouldnt feel right in actually pushing the destruct button, so if we do this, I need some ruthless guy who wouldnt have a problem triggering the teleport disruptor on another coin.

With the mass copy and paste "devs" out there, I say implement it.  I am more than willing to pull the trigger on any "dev" that tries to claim this technology.
legendary
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August 11, 2014, 01:07:30 AM
It seems that AES totally winning the poll, so I think it is safe to default to that method.
You can always change it to any of the others and even do one after another after another.

So, now I want to do a new poll. Not sure if you know about BCNext and how he injected some flaws into the NXT code. People that just forked it would end up with a dead coin within a day. Since I am being very open to share Teleport tech with other coins for a small fee, I dont think it is so bad to do what BCNext did.

I came up with a way make it so that if anybody just blindly forks it, well, I wont be held responsible where their telepods end up. Now if they took the time to understand the 40,000 lines of code I wrote, then they could probably work around it, but I could get pretty clever in making the flaw virtually impossible to detect. They would have to be as good a coder as me to detect it. I call this the "teleport disruptor"

I would like a poll on whether to inject the teleport disruptor or not. Of course the BTCD Teleport will work fine, it would just be any other coin that attempts to take the BTCD's rightful spot as supreme teleporter of other coins, well you've seen the results of transporter accidents? Not a pretty thing. The scary thing for any that would attempt to do this is that it would appear to work fine for a while, so it probably wont happen during testing, but after they go live. Maybe it is even remotely triggered

They could just write something from scratch using the DarkPaper as reference.
Or they could just let BTCD teleport their coin for 1/1024'th fee

What do you think?

James

P.S. I wouldnt feel right in actually pushing the destruct button, so if we do this, I need some ruthless guy who wouldnt have a problem triggering the teleport disruptor on another coin.
legendary
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August 10, 2014, 11:30:45 PM
A bit off topic but I had a look at NXF.

This might sound stupid because it probably is but here goes.

Why would you have 2 prices? 1 for the base metal/coin and 1 that is the market price.

If someone was to buy at market price why would they ever trade in the NXF to redeem the base metal when it is a lot higher to buy the NXF? Wouldnt they just sell it on the market then buy the metal themselves?
See, its not just me, confusing.
It sounds like partial backing, so what is all the premium for? What if the market demand disappears? Arent people just paying double what they need to?
That's what I dont understand and I dont have time to go any further, there are plenty of assets I understand. Maybe this sort of thing is what you want, that's ok. Just dont try to convince me
legendary
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August 10, 2014, 11:28:55 PM
Had to spend hours fiddling with one of the MGW servers that required support tickers, restarting things, restarting things again, etc. So, hard to concentrate on coding.

But, I did make some progress. The scrubbing of the public key worked very well, so now only onetime throwaway keypair
And this worked using 127.0.0.1 as the privacyServer!
It is very confusing with the same computer being both the sender, receiver AND privacyServer, but all the encrypting, decrypting worked and it got to where it complained about lack of telepods to teleport.

That's because I totally changed the file format and need to just generate some new ones. With so much new code, it takes me a while to switch gears to debugging mode, which is totally different than coding mode, at least for me.

I also got it so that the "pubaddr" field in the .conf file is used to autogenerate a NXT acct and also all local commands that need to be tokenized. This really helps as I used to have to pass in the accountsecret through layers and layers of code and now it is just provided when needed.

I also verified the multisig deconstruction/reconstruction is working and that yesterday's cipher sequence JSON is being parsed properly. So, no actual teleport yet, but progress in various areas.

James

P.S. I am also figuring out how to make it painful for other coins to just fork Teleport. Let's just say that some unexpected things could very well happen and I wont be responsible for any lost funds. If other coins want Teleport, they should just work with BTCD, the fee is very low and reasonable.
legendary
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August 10, 2014, 11:27:45 PM
A bit off topic but I had a look at NXF.

This might sound stupid because it probably is but here goes.

Why would you have 2 prices? 1 for the base metal/coin and 1 that is the market price.

If someone was to buy at market price why would they ever trade in the NXF to redeem the base metal when it is a lot higher to buy the NXF? Wouldnt they just sell it on the market then buy the metal themselves?
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