Unnnnbelievable! I actually wrote in a post the other day that the best thing forward would be for them to open up to the community and open source.
Topic: Butterfly Labs Announces Bulk Chip Sales - page 12. (Read 15801 times)
Butterfly Labs IS officially a piece of shit outfit. Customers have patiently been waiting for their orders, but BFL opts to sell new hardware devices and now chips, the same vapor chips that's suppose to go into product.
You've already seen how Sonny Vleisides treats little old ladies. Do you think for one motherfuckin' second he feels anything toward the demographics who've invested in BFL? The only thing he has proven in his life that he cares about is himself.
What a selfish PRICK. And that goes for all the cocksuckers over at BFL that know exactly what's what.
Sonny is such a PUSSY, he won't even come back to this forum to defend himself even if the accusations were false.
Madness! Utter madness!
You've already seen how Sonny Vleisides treats little old ladies. Do you think for one motherfuckin' second he feels anything toward the demographics who've invested in BFL? The only thing he has proven in his life that he cares about is himself.
What a selfish PRICK. And that goes for all the cocksuckers over at BFL that know exactly what's what.
Sonny is such a PUSSY, he won't even come back to this forum to defend himself even if the accusations were false.
Madness! Utter madness!
Buy chips now and maybe we will tell you how to implement them next year.
imagine what the reference designs look like...
i chuckled at this as well. i guess if they convert all the pre-orders to chip sales, they won't need to worry about fixing problems with their boards 
Buy chips now and maybe we will tell you how to implement them next year.
So... I haven't been paying attention.
Are all the engines equivalent performance, and if so... what is the performance per engine?
Are all the engines equivalent performance, and if so... what is the performance per engine?
2 chips per Jalapeno
~28 engines for 5000 MH/s, if we assume each engine produces 1 hash per clock then the engines are running at ~180Mhz and doing 180Mh/s
Imagine how much it stung to go from 1 chip @ $40-60 apiece to 2 chips per Jalapeno. That probably blew up their margins on all of their $179 era pre-orders.
Heatsink + fan: $15
PCB: $20
Case, cable, and power brick: $15
2 chips: $100
Estimate COGS of Jalapeno is $150. Those are some slim margins @ $179 retail.
Is this a cunning plan to get BKK to design a board that works 
It's only logical they sell the chips since they can't deliver hardware. I wouldn't be surprised they're also vaporware. Gotta love that down payment.
So... I haven't been paying attention.
Are all the engines equivalent performance, and if so... what is the performance per engine?
Are all the engines equivalent performance, and if so... what is the performance per engine?
Posting over here in case their site goes down or they change the original post
Highlighting is from me,
Highlighting is from me,
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Butterfly Labs will begin selling bulk chips to individuals and companies starting in June, 2013. Chip delivery schedule is approximately 100 days through end packaging once your order is placed. We will be providing reference documentation, reference design/schematics, and foundry receipt/documentation.
Chips will be graded and priced as follows:
Grade A: 16 Engines - $97/chip
Grade B: 15 Engines - $93/chip
Grade C: 14 Engines - $89/chip
Grade D: 13 Engines or less - $83/chip
Our chips will be provided in minimum lots of 100 with the following price structure:
100 - 999 chips - Regular Price
1000 - 9999 chips - 5% discount
10,000 - 99,999 chips - 10% discount
100,000 or more - 20% discount
Chip orders will require 50% down and 50% upon order delivery. Payment can be made via BTC (preferred) or bank wire.
Advantages of BFL chips:
1/2 the power usage per GH as the closest competitor
1/10th the silicon area per GH as the closest competitor (Very high performance density)
You can use off the shelf heat sinks depending on your chip layout due to FCBGA package vs custom underside heat sinks as required on some QFN packages. You don't have to design and manufacture heat sinks!
Proven design currently operating in the field and ready to go.
We will allow you to convert current orders with us into chip orders if you would rather design your own.
Chips will be graded and priced as follows:
Grade A: 16 Engines - $97/chip
Grade B: 15 Engines - $93/chip
Grade C: 14 Engines - $89/chip
Grade D: 13 Engines or less - $83/chip
Our chips will be provided in minimum lots of 100 with the following price structure:
100 - 999 chips - Regular Price
1000 - 9999 chips - 5% discount
10,000 - 99,999 chips - 10% discount
100,000 or more - 20% discount
Chip orders will require 50% down and 50% upon order delivery. Payment can be made via BTC (preferred) or bank wire.
Advantages of BFL chips:
1/2 the power usage per GH as the closest competitor
1/10th the silicon area per GH as the closest competitor (Very high performance density)
You can use off the shelf heat sinks depending on your chip layout due to FCBGA package vs custom underside heat sinks as required on some QFN packages. You don't have to design and manufacture heat sinks!
Proven design currently operating in the field and ready to go.
We will allow you to convert current orders with us into chip orders if you would rather design your own.
Chip delivery schedule is approximately 100 days through end packaging once your order is placed.
~100 days + 2 weeks, right?
*facepalm*
So now they are also in the chip selling business:
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/3014-butterfly-labs-announces-bulk-chip-sales.html
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/3014-butterfly-labs-announces-bulk-chip-sales.html
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Butterfly Labs will begin selling bulk chips to individuals and companies starting in June, 2013. Chip delivery schedule is approximately 100 days through end packaging once your order is placed. We will be providing reference documentation, reference design/schematics, and foundry receipt/documentation.
Chips will be graded and priced as follows:
Grade A: 16 Engines - $97/chip
Grade B: 15 Engines - $93/chip
Grade C: 14 Engines - $89/chip
Grade D: 13 Engines or less - $83/chip
Our chips will be provided in minimum lots of 100 with the following price structure:
100 - 999 chips - Regular Price
1000 - 9999 chips - 5% discount
10,000 - 99,999 chips - 10% discount
100,000 or more - 20% discount
Chip orders will require 50% down and 50% upon order delivery. Payment can be made via BTC (preferred) or bank wire.
Advantages of BFL chips:
1/2 the power usage per GH as the closest competitor
1/10th the silicon area per GH as the closest competitor (Very high performance density)
You can use off the shelf heat sinks depending on your chip layout due to FCBGA package vs custom underside heat sinks as required on some QFN packages. You don't have to design and manufacture heat sinks!
Proven design currently operating in the field and ready to go.
We will allow you to convert current orders with us into chip orders if you would rather design your own.
If you would like to place an order, please email [email protected]
Chips will be graded and priced as follows:
Grade A: 16 Engines - $97/chip
Grade B: 15 Engines - $93/chip
Grade C: 14 Engines - $89/chip
Grade D: 13 Engines or less - $83/chip
Our chips will be provided in minimum lots of 100 with the following price structure:
100 - 999 chips - Regular Price
1000 - 9999 chips - 5% discount
10,000 - 99,999 chips - 10% discount
100,000 or more - 20% discount
Chip orders will require 50% down and 50% upon order delivery. Payment can be made via BTC (preferred) or bank wire.
Advantages of BFL chips:
1/2 the power usage per GH as the closest competitor
1/10th the silicon area per GH as the closest competitor (Very high performance density)
You can use off the shelf heat sinks depending on your chip layout due to FCBGA package vs custom underside heat sinks as required on some QFN packages. You don't have to design and manufacture heat sinks!
Proven design currently operating in the field and ready to go.
We will allow you to convert current orders with us into chip orders if you would rather design your own.
If you would like to place an order, please email [email protected]
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