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Topic: Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders - page 24. (Read 59178 times)

legendary
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seriously the nature of argument doesn't have to adversarial
It isn't my friend. You just make it turn out that way.

Almost all the interactions I have had with you were on the basis of practices employed and ethics. Personal didn't enter into it until private information was posted. Guess by who?
hero member
Activity: 574
Merit: 500
war . ..it's all the art of war. . .and your FUD

just Missing a timeline ...... is that what u are going with in regards to BFL ......lol cry lol

If you believe that you either are not informed on the long long history of this saga or are deluded !
legendary
Activity: 1190
Merit: 1000
I am clearly very dumb.

Nulla et massa vitae tortor condimentum vestibulum.  Cheesy

Keep going.. it only serves to prove my point.
agreed k9 has a pretentious over evaluation of his contributions to any given conversation? (yay you dids latins. ..momma's so proud. .validate . . validate. . .validate. ..dead language. . .dead personality)

I feel that I put way more into any one of my posts by pasting the output of a lorem ipsum engine than int03h has put into all of his posts together.

Back onto a real conversation. I was hoping you could provide an example of a major online retailer that charges the full amount to your credit card (not just an authorization) for a pre-order.

Here is my post on the subject (sans nonsense)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2270904
omg you so demonstrated mastery of UCC we shall all bow down to your fact based discussion of reality. . . oh wait. ..you were wrong and redirected. . .well g' luck next time
I have not stated anything regarding the Uniform Commercial Code other than I felt a more relevant state statute existed.
I posted the relevant statute entitled Missouri Merchandising Practices Act. I post it again http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/chapters/chap407.htm.
I already posted the part I feel BFL has violated:
407.020. 1. The act, use or employment by any person of any deception, fraud, false pretense, false promise, misrepresentation, unfair practice or the concealment, suppression, or omission of any material fact in connection with the sale or advertisement of any merchandise in trade or commerce or the solicitation of any funds for any charitable purpose, as defined in section 407.453, in or from the state of Missouri, is declared to be an unlawful practice.
You failed to address that Missouri statute.

You said that all retailers charge full price for pre-orders, I posted several counter examples of major online retailers never charge full price for pre-orders. They only authorize. They only charge when the item ships. You have not addressed this either.

sr. member
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seriously the nature of argument doesn't have to adversarial
sr. member
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The real question is PL .. did you get my postcards?

Send it to my current address:

http://www.mylife.com/l-joshua-zerlan-e961579999368
ok PL respect where respect is due. . .that was funny. . .oh and FU Smiley hhehe jk Smiley
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sr. member
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The ones who shout the loudest have avalon asics and they really, really, really want BFL to fail - to the point they can taste it. More asics = less coins for them. I fear the need for you 'old timers' to want to educate us noobs is less altruism and more greed.
Wait, you mean we have nothing to gain by having BFL ship and meet their performance specs?

Here I am sitting on a ton of BitCoins and my whoredom to Avalon is so great that I wouldn't ever dream/want to make money from a cheaper (yet unreliable?) alternative called BFL?

Raise your hand if you wouldn't buy from a cheaper alternative? I buy hardware to mine Bitcoins, not to "date" the vendors rep.

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The only truth is I am waiting to see if "the Avalon Clones" being made are worthwhile. They may be alot cheaper than even the BFL Hardware. Their reliability is still an unanswerable question. In which case, if BFL fails it will be my first strategic choice.

Your assumptions are distorted and inane.

Your fascination with the word distorted is noted. You have used it at least once in last few posts. You also mentioned NLP a little while back. I am sure there is a link here somewhere... help me figure it out.

I hope you arent fixing hard drives today :
https://plus.google.com/104100515304524528467/about?gl=us&hl=en

Did you get my postcards?

oh shit .. did I let the cat out the bag .. fuck .. ooopss



God damn it wtf with all the retards in texas.  .I need to gtfo before it rubs off. .. .
Aha, Inaba in disguise.
omg PL it's impossible I'm a person with opinion .  .we'll have to make a new award for your level of genius. . .you have obviously done your research
legendary
Activity: 1890
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full member
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The ones who shout the loudest have avalon asics and they really, really, really want BFL to fail - to the point they can taste it. More asics = less coins for them. I fear the need for you 'old timers' to want to educate us noobs is less altruism and more greed.
Wait, you mean we have nothing to gain by having BFL ship and meet their performance specs?

Here I am sitting on a ton of BitCoins and my whoredom to Avalon is so great that I wouldn't ever dream/want to make money from a cheaper (yet unreliable?) alternative called BFL?

Raise your hand if you wouldn't buy from a cheaper alternative? I buy hardware to mine Bitcoins, not to "date" the vendors rep.

-----------------

The only truth is I am waiting to see if "the Avalon Clones" being made are worthwhile. They may be alot cheaper than even the BFL Hardware. Their reliability is still an unanswerable question. In which case, if BFL fails it will be my first strategic choice.

Your assumptions are distorted and inane.

Your fascination with the word distorted is noted. You have used it at least once in last few posts. You also mentioned NLP a little while back. I am sure there is a link here somewhere... help me figure it out.

I hope you arent fixing hard drives today :
https://plus.google.com/104100515304524528467/about?gl=us&hl=en

Did you get my postcards?

oh shit .. did I let the cat out the bag .. fuck .. ooopss



God damn it wtf with all the retards in texas.  .I need to gtfo before it rubs off. .. .
Aha, Inaba in disguise.

I am INABA !!
sr. member
Activity: 335
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war . ..it's all the art of war. . .and your FUD
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1003


The ones who shout the loudest have avalon asics and they really, really, really want BFL to fail - to the point they can taste it. More asics = less coins for them. I fear the need for you 'old timers' to want to educate us noobs is less altruism and more greed.
Wait, you mean we have nothing to gain by having BFL ship and meet their performance specs?

Here I am sitting on a ton of BitCoins and my whoredom to Avalon is so great that I wouldn't ever dream/want to make money from a cheaper (yet unreliable?) alternative called BFL?

Raise your hand if you wouldn't buy from a cheaper alternative? I buy hardware to mine Bitcoins, not to "date" the vendors rep.

-----------------

The only truth is I am waiting to see if "the Avalon Clones" being made are worthwhile. They may be alot cheaper than even the BFL Hardware. Their reliability is still an unanswerable question. In which case, if BFL fails it will be my first strategic choice.

Your assumptions are distorted and inane.

Your fascination with the word distorted is noted. You have used it at least once in last few posts. You also mentioned NLP a little while back. I am sure there is a link here somewhere... help me figure it out.

I hope you arent fixing hard drives today :
https://plus.google.com/104100515304524528467/about?gl=us&hl=en

Did you get my postcards?

oh shit .. did I let the cat out the bag .. fuck .. ooopss



God damn it wtf with all the retards in texas.  .I need to gtfo before it rubs off. .. .
Aha, Inaba in disguise.
full member
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The real question is PL .. did you get my postcards?
sr. member
Activity: 335
Merit: 250
You are ignoring one thing...

Are you an avalon asic owner k9quaint? - you don't have to answer but I'd be interested...

No. I do mine, but I am not currently using Avalon, ASICMiner or BFL.

I should thank BFL for sucking up all the capital that would have gone to either Avalon or ASICMiner. That capital would have been converted to hashing equipment sooner and impacted the network hash rate (and thus my profits) sooner. BFL has put money in my pocket by being so late.
Amen, I keep telling people that BFL reps are a secret fans of Avalon. They are probably just shy.

If only you actually had one PL. Am I right !?

It's well known puerto has a 60 GH/s avalon asic - he tells everyone about it - and he slags off BFL any chance he can get on any thread in the forum - correlation ?

People who put money into Avalon will probably get their chips and/or mining units. ASICMiner has also been a reliable way to convert capital into network hash rate. There is currently no evidence that I am aware of to support the contrary.

To date BFL is an unreliable way to convert your money into hash rate. Moreover, there have been a continuous series of delays which benefited all miners. To maximize their profits, every miner should encourage people looking for ASICs to order from BFL.
Finally, someone understands the cruel joke that is my Signature.

yes self validation is altruistic . ...it's not that by the time avalon batch #3 pays the pyramid bounty they paid off. ..the blf early order units will have surpassed them. .  not at all.. .that's solid math
sr. member
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Merit: 250
I think that instead of focusing totally on ones self in the "WHATS IN IT FOR ME" gen y mentality ..he chose to bring information and light onto BFL's corrupt business practices

Well, despite your impenetrable choice of words, I gather your comments. He has a right to bring to the community attention, the fact that he feels aggrieved.

SO yes he did himself out of some cash but also helped the comminity as a whole and maybe even stopped BFL from executeing this type of practice on many others to follow

$15k in fact. I doubt he did any of the other things you were trying to say YipYip.

So what have you provided to the community apart from your abuse and trolling others trying to deal with a difficult situation ??

Well, I have done loads actually - for one thing I have answered your post and pointed out to anyone with an ounce of intelligence, that your points in your post are poor at best.

Oh wait just like inaba u will change your alias and continue to hide from who and what u are... go back to the shadows and have a look closely to find whats in it for me mantra...you are a credit to the community and we certainly need more pple like yourself to help mainstream crypto....lol

I do not intend to change my alias. I think the community might actually be better off with less people like you.

Keep denfending the most morally corrupt business I have ever come across in my life....

Keep supporting/enabling these guys and saying your are helping anyone by this behavior...

Just for the record you totally support and endorse BFL business practices up to date ??

really? banks aren't worse? missing a time line in an optimistic proposal is so horrible that you dismiss the whole reason bitcoin exists?
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1003
You are ignoring one thing...

Are you an avalon asic owner k9quaint? - you don't have to answer but I'd be interested...

No. I do mine, but I am not currently using Avalon, ASICMiner or BFL.

I should thank BFL for sucking up all the capital that would have gone to either Avalon or ASICMiner. That capital would have been converted to hashing equipment sooner and impacted the network hash rate (and thus my profits) sooner. BFL has put money in my pocket by being so late.
Amen, I keep telling people that BFL reps are a secret fans of Avalon. They are probably just shy.

If only you actually had one PL. Am I right !?

It's well known puerto has a 60 GH/s avalon asic - he tells everyone about it - and he slags off BFL any chance he can get on any thread in the forum - correlation ?

People who put money into Avalon will probably get their chips and/or mining units. ASICMiner has also been a reliable way to convert capital into network hash rate. There is currently no evidence that I am aware of to support the contrary.

To date BFL is an unreliable way to convert your money into hash rate. Moreover, there have been a continuous series of delays which benefited all miners. To maximize their profits, every miner should encourage people looking for ASICs to order from BFL.
Finally, someone understands the cruel joke that is my Signature.
hero member
Activity: 574
Merit: 500
I think that instead of focusing totally on ones self in the "WHATS IN IT FOR ME" gen y mentality ..he chose to bring information and light onto BFL's corrupt business practices

Well, despite your impenetrable choice of words, I gather your comments. He has a right to bring to the community attention, the fact that he feels aggrieved.

SO yes he did himself out of some cash but also helped the comminity as a whole and maybe even stopped BFL from executeing this type of practice on many others to follow

$15k in fact. I doubt he did any of the other things you were trying to say YipYip.

So what have you provided to the community apart from your abuse and trolling others trying to deal with a difficult situation ??

Well, I have done loads actually - for one thing I have answered your post and pointed out to anyone with an ounce of intelligence, that your points in your post are poor at best.

Oh wait just like inaba u will change your alias and continue to hide from who and what u are... go back to the shadows and have a look closely to find whats in it for me mantra...you are a credit to the community and we certainly need more pple like yourself to help mainstream crypto....lol

I do not intend to change my alias. I think the community might actually be better off with less people like you.

Keep denfending the most morally corrupt business I have ever come across in my life....

Keep supporting/enabling these guys and saying your are helping anyone by this behavior...

Just for the record you totally support and endorse BFL business practices up to date ??
sr. member
Activity: 335
Merit: 250
Keep going.. it only serves to prove my point.
Dare I ask what your point is, other than shilling for Butterfly Labs ?
Can you not read?

 I can read quite well in fact.

 I've read enough of your shilling to know there is nothing of substance or anything approaching a rational thought coming out of you in this thread.

 *adds another contestant to his ignore list*

omg Xian shall reach perfect peace the moment he no longer can receive  responses the doesn't agree with
full member
Activity: 532
Merit: 104
Keep going.. it only serves to prove my point.
Dare I ask what your point is, other than shilling for Butterfly Labs ?
Can you not read?

 I can read quite well in fact.

 I've read enough of your shilling to know there is nothing of substance or anything approaching a rational thought coming out of you in this thread.

 *adds another contestant to his ignore list*


What a fucking fag. And there is my judgement.



sr. member
Activity: 335
Merit: 250
oh oh oh. . .wait. . I forgot one thing. . . eat a bag of dicks

See, I don't think that helps and allows others to belay a decent answer to the fact that xian brought this upon himself...

His actions did result in his order being canceled. No one is contesting that (at least not seriously). There is really no precedent since most online retailers do not engage in the sort of activity that BFL has engaged in.
oh really. ..I do believe you were debating exacly that when you brought up UCC and consumer protection. .. .try again. . .your fail.. . and yes they do. . .dear god give me a hard target. . .we had a button called "orbit" on the call center phones. . .you might as well call it FU we don't want you button after it was flagged on your account
legendary
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Christian Antkow
Keep going.. it only serves to prove my point.
Dare I ask what your point is, other than shilling for Butterfly Labs ?
Can you not read?

 I can read quite well in fact.

 I've read enough of your shilling to know there is nothing of substance or anything approaching a rational thought coming out of you in this thread.

 *adds another contestant to his ignore list*
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