Topic: Butterfly Labs Forced "On Hold For Refund" for all my Single SC orders - page 37. (Read 59168 times)

Clever comment man - I take it you:
1) have a keyboard
2) have some other input device
3) have some sort of LCD or CRT upon which to display the content of posts in this forum

If you have an ASIC order with BFL, you have our pity not our enmity.
You should probably care if the president of BFL (as far as the state of MO is concerned) was convicted of a major fraud. How would you know what?

1) Had an order from Nov that I cancelled in Feb
2) Would rather eat my own testicles than buy/support/enable this type of behaviour in our community
3) I have 20 rigs mining LTC since kicking ASIC's and BFL to the curb and have been minting $6-8k a month ever since..so i am pretty happy about making the decision to cancel my order

The beauty about the BTC\LTC ecosystem is that it is a self regulating.... and it does not revolve soley around hash rate and coins per day... I am into crypto for more than just mining and encourage everyone to mine as part of brining more pple to this world and making mainstreaming crypto a closer reality (I have been happy to share 6 months of mining XP with others and help give them a leg so to speak with their mining endevours)

Currently have a big project in the works that will be a really good value add to the LTC community that I am working with 2 other devs

So is my approach  your simplistic view of less miners more money for me ideology ... i beg to differ

Oh and BTW you can "SUCK IT TOO nottm28" ....lol

Apology accepted.

You , or your troll clones. I am posting from my phone, so I cant go digging through 30+ pages of you people's bullshit in order to pick names. Apologies if you werent the on who originally brought it up , but you certainly havent failed to latch onto it as thoughit is something of any significance...

I wasn't pretending anything. I was the person posting links to the documents that demonstrated that it was not "an IRS witch hunt" like you portrayed it.

#2 demonstrates your total lack of knowledge of the case. I posted links to the documentation that proved that your statement was false. You continue to deny in the face of overwhelming evidence. This proves you are incapable of rational thought when it comes to Sonny et al.

Here is you making more things up. My post history speaks for itself. Yours speaks of a BFL sycophant desperate to deflect criticism and the disclosure of facts. For anyone else interested in the facts you can read them here: http://www.plainsite.org/flashlight/case.html?id=1500526


That was not me. Then again, if you could read we wouldn't be having this discussion.

There's no need to discredit Sonny. He's a convicted felon. He discredited himself when he got involved with illegal activities and got caught. You seem to think felonies are no big deal. Is that because you have some on your own record?

So then why have you been pretending that the IRS wasn't involved? Here's the recap:

1. Somebody asked why anybody would do business with BFL, knowing Sonny was involved, and knowing the history of Sonny.
2. I responded that I didn't believe that the case really consisted of much more than an IRS witch hunt (answering the question as to why I don't have any major reservations in dealing with him.
3. You try and distort things and pretend that the IRS wasn't involved.
4. You accuse me of ripping off old ladies of their pensions (or at least supporting it), since you don't have an acutal arguemnt.
5. You continue to try and distort.
6. You dig up some random post I made on a precious metals thread about having used copper as a sort of 'poor mans gold' because base metal costs are rising, and try and twist it into an association with some obscure correlation with some alleged "penny scheme" because pennies are ALSO made of copper.

"Hmmm, copper. And what's ALSO made of copper?"
"A penny!"

Clever comment man - I take it you:

1) Don't have a BFL order.
2) Don't want a BFL order (unless they start shipping - then you will have known it was a good idea all along).
3) Don't want anyone else to get an ASIC because it will slow your hash rate down (like puerto).

I don't know whether I care about Sonny tbh - I have an ASIC order and that pisses peops off on this thread... How would I know?

Clever comment man - I take it you:

1) Don't have a BFL order.
2) Don't want a BFL order (unless they start shipping - then you will have known it was a good idea all along).
3) Don't want anyone else to get an ASIC because it will slow your hash rate down (like puerto).

Does that mean you think Sonny was innocent of the mail fraud charges? That he was just a victim of a witch hunt?

Funny wm - keep posting my friend you have me in stitches sometimes.

"Witch Hunt" involves somebody being accused of a crime that

1) They have not committed or innocent
2) Based on very flimsy circumstantial evidence that can somehow link them to this crime
3) Some bias or agenda being perpertrated against said person for ulterior motives

Now Sonny the convicted felon is none of the above

So by that reasoning your statement is false....

Oh and BTW  SUCK IT monkey boy....  

I don't have to obfuscate anything. I posted links to every legal document filed in United States v. Vleisides et al. You posted that you read somewhere on the internet that it is cool to defraud retired senior citizens of their savings.

Yes. The IRS was involved in that investigation.
I am glad you backpedaled from IRS indicted him, to IRS was involved in the investigation. The evidence presented to the grand jury did include tax returns filed by the defendants to prove the income flowed from the lottery scams to their personal funds. IMO, the IRS criminal investigation unit should be consulted in financial crimes committed by US citizens. Tax returns are great way to establish ownership of funds and mens rea. Of course, if they didn't declare the funds on their taxes you have them for tax evasion.

The US postal inspectors are currently responsible for investigating mail fraud, which is what the defendants committed, were charged with, and were convicted of. You should be building a conspiracy theory against the USPS.

And regarding your other nonsense about the copper:
I don't think you are Sonny, he seems way more competent than you. I just find it interesting that you felate BFL, you think mail fraud scams are cool, and you also invested in copper. Of course, you provide absolutely no evidence what so ever and whenever you are proven a liar you just backpedal and pretend nothing happened.

"Schemes" Wow, you're really reaching, aren't you?

I happen to live very near to one of the largest copper mines in the United States. There are people who have physical copper here, and I bought a moderate amount of physical copper a few years ago, for below spot, when spot price was below $2. I sold most of it for a few cents ABOVE spot, when spot was not too far below $5. This wasn't a scheme, it was a purchase and a sale, and some trades on futures.

I must admit, it's been amusing watching you "super sleuths" perform your mental acrobatics trying to find some bizarre attack to try to discredit me with. The outlandish conclusions you've come up with (and continue to come up with) only reinforce my opinions that the same crazy antics that are being used to try and discredit me, for no apparent reason, are the same tactics used to try and discredit Sonny. It only gives me more confidence that Sonny is not the person you kooks are so wont to paint him as.

I could be completely wrong, or course, it's possible that in all your kooky conspiracy theories, between thinking that *I* am Sonny, or that I'm running some sort of a "penny scheme" (whatever the fuck that is), that somebody actually nailed it, and Sonny is just a fly by night crook, who is waiting for the right dollar amount to fall into his lap, before skipping town, but I'm highly doubtful. I think you're all a bunch of board teenagers/adult children basement-dwellers, with nothing better to do than troll the forums with your absurd concocted theories.

You strike me as the type of kook who would see a Lincolin Continental, and say 'Hey, wasn't Kennedy shot in a Lincolin Continental? That guy drives a Lincolin... President Lincolin was also assassinated by being shot in the head... it all makes sense. The driver of that car must be a Freemason, who is in on the giant conspiracy to symbolically name a vehicle after one assassinated president, and then use that vehicle as the presidential limousine, in which to assassinate another president! Proof that it was the Freemasons, right there!"

And then some other fucking retad comes along and says, 'Why yes, that IS very curious. Excellent detective work!' and then you all go have a circle jerk in your parents' basement.  

Caption: BFL Josh (left) watches studiously as Yifu and Team Avalon (pictured right) school him on ASICs and product development.

"Recommend" is another word for "Request" in this instance. Now then, is it your assertion that the IRS was not, in fact, involved in this case, or are you merely trying to obfuscate the issue more?

Simple question. Yes or No. Was the IRS involved in the case that was brought against Mr. Vlesides?

 What are the odds ? Very very suspicious indeed.

Both Sonny Vleidises and "Wrenchmonkey" have invested in schemes involving physical copper. Interesting. 

I call bullshit.   So you "trade" $15 dollar 5lb copper ingots and take physical delivery of them?   BS.  After delivery and return delivery you could not make money.