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Topic: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM - page 106. (Read 415652 times)

newbie
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May 18, 2013, 11:01:02 AM
I think btfl is a scam
member
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Merit: 10
May 18, 2013, 10:31:55 AM
asic is scam..... Huh
sr. member
Activity: 389
Merit: 250
May 18, 2013, 10:23:15 AM
I would buy one but for the fact that only Jalapeno has been shipped. No way to calculate what level of difficulty you will encounter when you finally receive the machine. If they aren't in prison before.

But then again their are other coins you could use it on. 
full member
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Merit: 100
May 18, 2013, 10:16:53 AM
i dont think bfl is a scam but they just dont have the knowhow
newbie
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Merit: 0
May 18, 2013, 10:14:42 AM
Please understand that I have kept up with the facts and made my decision to pre-order after I waited a good amount of time to collect the data I needed to feel comfortable enough with the risks.

If you really kept up with the facts and did your due diligence, you would find out that the President of Butterfly Labs, Sonny Vleisides, is a felon. He was convicted of running a mail fraud racket that, over six years, stole $20 million from the elderly and naive. These scams went by names like Shamrock Agency, German Swiss Group and World Expert Fund. His business partner at the time, Dennis Emmet, is now in jail for MURDER. He shot a guy IN THE FACE after getting into an argument.

These are facts, not libel. Google his name and read the affidavit. Even if they are legitimately creating a product, look at his past business practices, who he associates himself with, and ask yourself seriously if they are worthy of your hard-earned money. This company has not delivered for a year and is run by a former con artist. Any newbies thinking about pre-ordering need to take this into consideration.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/re-butterfly-labs-ceo-25-million-usd-mail-fraud-a-concise-summary-of-evidence-110805
http://insidecostarica.com/dailynews/2005/may/01/nac04.htm

Read it before.

Did we impeach Bill Clinton? His immoral choices did not stop us from letting him reside over the most recent economic surplus in US history?

Just sayin'... everyone deserves a chance to show they learned from their mistakes... and if he is operating then SOMEONE in the justice system signed off on it.

Exactly. I'm glad someone said it.

So now that he's proven himself once again to be a fraud, criminal, and scammer, we'll all just agree to call it what it is: a criminal enterprise designed to defraud people.
hero member
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Inspired
May 18, 2013, 08:49:33 AM
I'm giving these guys 2 more weeks and I'm going to cancel my orders.

I read about their problems - but I had hope they would come through.
It's just too much money to be tied up indefinitely.

full member
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Merit: 105
May 18, 2013, 08:38:40 AM
The problem I have with BFL is that even though they couldn't be more behind, they're still actively advertising. Give me a break.

+1
newbie
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Merit: 0
May 18, 2013, 08:14:26 AM
Anyone placing new orders for these thinking they are going to get them sometime this year are delusional.

You will not make money on these if you order now, if you ordered less than 45 days ago then claim a paypal refund while you can.
hero member
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May 18, 2013, 07:54:56 AM
The problem I have with BFL is that even though they couldn't be more behind, they're still actively advertising. Give me a break.

Why would they do that one must ponder?
newbie
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Merit: 0
May 18, 2013, 06:48:15 AM
The problem I have with BFL is that even though they couldn't be more behind, they're still actively advertising. Give me a break.
hero member
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Merit: 500
May 18, 2013, 06:35:52 AM
I ordered one but didn't send the BTC in time so it timed out. When I went back to find another address it would not give me the old one, or create a new one.

It seems that this did not convince me it was a scam because I just thought I'd order another one, when I did it would not include the postage as it seemed to think I'd already paid... very strange.

So I emailed them,


"I really want to order one of these" I was happy to wait three or six months if the units would do as promised... sadly it seems I might wait that long for a reply to my email.


a week now... still waiting

You like pain eh?
sr. member
Activity: 660
Merit: 250
May 18, 2013, 06:29:45 AM
I ordered one but didn't send the BTC in time so it timed out. When I went back to find another address it would not give me the old one, or create a new one.

It seems that this did not convince me it was a scam because I just thought I'd order another one, when I did it would not include the postage as it seemed to think I'd already paid... very strange.

So I emailed them,


"I really want to order one of these" I was happy to wait three or six months if the units would do as promised... sadly it seems I might wait that long for a reply to my email.


a week now... still waiting
hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 500
May 18, 2013, 06:21:02 AM
They will ship, it will be late, but they will ship.  Then there will be an outcry from all those who didnt jump in at the start thats its so unfair.


Well you should buy another unit then.
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
May 18, 2013, 06:02:55 AM
They will ship, it will be late, but they will ship.  Then there will be an outcry from all those who didnt jump in at the start thats its so unfair.
newbie
Activity: 19
Merit: 0
May 18, 2013, 05:38:30 AM
None of the Asic producing companies are professional - Avalon & BFL are amateurs, and AsicMiner is
taking full advantage of this situation.

I somehow think AsicMiner is doing this to not disrupt the market too much...
hero member
Activity: 1162
Merit: 500
May 18, 2013, 04:49:13 AM
Fixed that for you:

it's not a scam, just a big overpromise, underoversell and underdeliver (aka not deliver).


You can vote here: [POLL] Should Butterfly Labs (BFL) get a Scammer tag?
newbie
Activity: 52
Merit: 0
May 17, 2013, 05:20:29 PM
None of the Asic producing companies are professional - Avalon & BFL are amateurs, and AsicMiner is
taking full advantage of this situation.
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
May 17, 2013, 05:07:26 PM
it's not a scam, just a big overpromise undersell.
hero member
Activity: 1162
Merit: 500
May 17, 2013, 04:59:08 PM
BFL is a huge scam!!! they still have my $$ but wont respond anymore!!!

You can vote here: [POLL] Should Butterfly Labs (BFL) get a Scammer tag?
member
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Merit: 10
May 17, 2013, 03:48:15 PM
+1
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