Topic: [POLL] Should Butterfly Labs (BFL) get a Scammer tag? (Read 28070 times)

I thought he already got -3200 trust for me

wow 979 (80%) from 1224 Voters .
really make me surprize .

I think they are less scammers and more just idiots who only *THINK* they can make ASIC's.  These are simple ASIC circuits, with horrible power draw issues.  Bitcoin mining circuits switch every flop on every clock cycle.  Most recent ASIC designs only activate small % of circuit at a time, and even then, they don't switch every flop on every cycle.  These things have power density higher than an i7 running full tilt.  That said, a good designer would be aware of this from the outset and would plan for it.

Not so much with the Kansas farm boys.

and my eyes hurts watching those scammers ad here!
Paid with the money of their scam!

But wait.....they will ship after many years from now when the difficulty is too high to mine with those. Claiming they were never scammers!!!

I'm too nice to label them as scammers, but I wouldn't touch them with a 10 Ft pole ever again. So let them die a natural death when enough people feel they'd better not take the risk, but if they still want to, then caveat emptor.

Would anyone change their NO vote to YES knowing what you know now?

BFL lied to me and unilaterally broke the contract I had with them. They shipped to customers who ordered in Feb 2013 before I received shipping on an order from July 2012. They are running an investment lottery. If that is not scamming, I don't know what is.

Butterfly Labs have a physical store?

Well check this out i dont know what to think of this http://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/butterflylabs.com What do you think?

They used false advertising banners for Eight Months in a row, repeatedly pushed the shipping date without offering refunds, failed to meet Any of their claim specifications, you get your pre-order Forcefully refunded if you make a public display of your anger towards them, They made a "pre-order" a "final sale" when it's not even a sale, they flatout lied about FCC certification, and repeatedly made Vague as FUCK statements to always cover their ass.

I placed a pre order for a "SHIPPING NEXT MONTH, PRODUCTS ARE IN THE FINAL STAGE OF DEVELOPMENT!, PRE-ORDER NOW!" jalapeno, at the start of Ocotober, When did i get it? I didn't, I waited for Seven Months before getting a refund

ButterflyLabs should be banned from advertising on this forum

I pre-ordered my BFL in March.  Did this many people really order over the next several months without knowing it was a pre-order?

I am not trying to be rude or offensive, but I take investments like this fairly seriously and always do my due diligence.  I am just shocked people would send large amounts of cash to a company without at least doing a quick search around the internet about.  I am really sorry for those who purchased not knowing it was a pre-order and the money was non-refundable.

If scammer takes from you 1000 bucks and in exchange gives you 100 he is not a scammer because he still gives you something back!? Is that what you're saying?

Nah, they shouldn't get a scammer tag and instead a warning tag.... cause scammer are for taking money and giving nothing... so warning tag is good

Yeah, they're a bunch of clowns. I'm happy I managed to get a refund from Paypal. I'll never deal with them again.

 

Bumped

If they didn't stop shipping the new-Jalapeno for a whole month, maybe this one wouldn't have been a scam. With today's difficulty, they effectively managed to even ruin this product!

Wanna see something funny? Change the dates back by 1 year, change the prices to last years prices, and the above becomes a fact of what BFL is doing to Thousands of people, RIGHT NOW
Not a scammer? Allowed to advertise here? ARE YOU SERIOUS?!

Exactly. They shouldn't be allowed to perpetuate their crappola on this forum. They've had well over a year to get their act together and instead they continue to misrepresent their capabilities and relieve people of pre-order monies with unrealistic delivery schedules. And they shouldn't be allowed to advertise on this forum either, the last thing people need is to spend $4680 for Monarch's that might arrive over a year late, if at all.




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Overhead at the water cooler in 2013:

"I'm gonna get in on this Bitcoin mining thing."
"Oh yeah? Why is that then?"
"You can make loads of money using a new miner, it has awesome power and is only four grand and change."
"Where do you buy it?"
"You pre-order it and pay for it now, then they ship it out in a couple of weeks."


Overhead at the watercooler in 2014:

"How's the mining thing going, what did you call it, bitcoins?"
"Yeah, bitcoins... well, I haven't got the miner yet but it should arrive soon."
"Alrighty, how much did you pay for it again?"
"Basically five grand, it's a bit annoying but it will be cool when I get it."
"Yeah, sounds cool... hey wait, have you paid the five grand or do you pay that when it arrives?"
"I've already paid it."
"Dang..."


Overhead at the water cooler in 2015:

"Fuckity, fuckity, fuckity, fuckity, fuckity, fauck!!"
"Hey man, what's up?"
"Those faukers haven't sent me that miner yet !#!#$!!! "
"Really?! That was like ages ago man! What the hell is happening? Didn't you pay like five thousand dollars for that?"
"Don't remind me, there's so much I could have done with that money."
"Jeez man, you got ripped big time."


 

Yes

Well i agree it will not happen since bfl people here are considered hero's
I do not have to say that they give a good income to the forum so NEVER gonna happen even if they steal fort knox itself
Sure as hell BFL does not scammed any of the big boys here just the normal people like me get screwed by them.