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December 04, 2024, 10:16:27 AM
I personally don't have a set target for the number of Bitcoin that I want to accumulate into the future, because I don't want to put myself into unnecessary pressures to achieve the goal by all means. Although there's nothing wrong with setting a soft target for yourself into the future, perhaps in 10 years time to achieve a reasonable amount of Bitcoin but there's no need to over labor yourself or deny yourself of basic needs that are essential to live a healthy lifestyle because you want to accumulate 1 or 2 Bitcoin within the timeframe.
You are getting it twisted, setting a target doesn't mean that you should not take care of your basic needs or monthly expenses neither deprive yourself from other important things that must be done. Setting a target will only enable you stay focus and work towards it with all commitments and determination because you have a goal to achieve. For instance, you will be careful with the way you spend your extra funds and cut down expenses on stuffs that you can do without. For instance, drinking two bottles of beer every week or the money that you put use to gamble every week will be channel into accumulating more bitcoin apart from your DCA.

Also, whenever you have extra funds that you don't expect or plans for, it will make you think of buying bitcoin with it right away because you don't want the money to be used for something that will not be beneficial to you in future. The investor can easily lump sum happily with such funds because he has the zeal and passion to reach his bitcoin target.
Bitcoin investment does not need pressure to invest because it's a long term process, otherwise, you might end up selling your bitcoin when there is too much pressure on your finance because you are doing it the wrong way. Bitcoin investment should be done the right way for success in future.
If you carefully go through my post, you'll notice that I never mentioned that setting targets for your Bitcoin investment is a bad thing or that it can prevent you from taking care of your basic needs. My focus is that some people can set unrealistic targets and in the process of achieving the set goal of meeting their aim, they overlook their well being. So what works personally for me is that my focus is on making sure that I'm removing the percentage from my income into my DCA strategy for buying Bitcoin.

I personally don't bother so much about how much Bitcoin that I want to own in the next 10 to 20 years, what is important for me is being prudent with my expenditures every month so that I won't miss out on accumulating my bag. As my income is increasing so also I'll be increasing the amount that I set aside for accumulating Bitcoin. But what doesn't work for me might work for another person, it's the end that justifies the means. Whether your motivation is to focus your set target for a perticular amount in the future or you're more concerned about not missing out to buy now, the important thing is for you not to relent or stop your accumulation and hodling.
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December 04, 2024, 09:55:16 AM
After listening to you I can convince myself to invest in Bitcoin again. Although I have little knowledge about Bitcoin and I think this knowledge is not enough yet. I have invested very little in Bitcoin, which has given me a good profit. But now that the price of Bitcoin has increased, I am getting more and more worried about investing or to be honest, I am a little afraid. Because I am a child of a middle-class family and I have to think very carefully about what I have to do.
However I think I want to use some of my money to invest in Bitcoin for at least another year. If I could get some more advice from you on how wise it would be, I would be very benefited from my heart. Because my Bitcoin journey is very difficult and ignores family opinions.
In fact, if an investor wants to get something good from Bitcoin investment, he must invest for the long term (at least 10 years), in that case, if we consider your position right now, you are a child of a middle-class family and you have decided to invest ignoring the opinions of your family, which is very risky.
Because usually every Bitcoin investor should use money for investment that he can hold for a long time uninterruptedly, and to sustain this investment for a long time, he must have a strong source of income.
But right now you have none, no source of income, and the money you want to use is also waiting for the opinions of your family, and you want to invest for only one year, and you will have to face a difficult situation even if you lose the money you want to invest. All in all, I think it is better for you not to invest right now. Because we can never expect anything good from short-term investments, short-term investments are always risky, so everyone should plan for long-term investments.
So Right now you need to get a job or create a source of income, and then invest that money which you can afford to lose, and decide to hold for the long term (at least 10 years) rather than the short term. Start with small investments first, from which you can gain experience. And lastly, it is better not to do anything without ignoring the opinion of your family, you should Explain Bitcoin to your family and get their permission to invest and you should also be knowledgeable about Bitcoin.
In fact, as people of the previous era my parents cannot rely on invisible assets. Rather their preferred area is any physical visible assets. But I have tried to convince them with the strength of my knowledge and I am in some experimental investment. However I have made some changes to the investment plan. I find the DCA method very effective and suitable for me. So from now on I will continue to invest following the DCA method. I am very grateful for your opinion.
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December 04, 2024, 09:13:18 AM
I disagree with you dude, it is true that some people are not comfortable with their holding while some are comfortable with their holding and those investors that are not comfortable with their..., and tends to increase their accumulation is not really a bad thing right but sometimes or most times it's not good because it can result to a lot of things like being biased, frustration, panicking, selling when you're investment is not mature or due because you will be so worked up because of the quest to increase one's accumulation, as a matter of fact you are imposing so much pressure on yourself. Just like I said earlier it's not really a bad thing but while not continue accumulating regardless and just be consistent and wait for such opportunity to come to increase your accumulation instead of striving to..., since one is investment for a long period of time you don't need to rush there's time for everything.
The reason for DCA method of investment is to make bitcoin investment easy, people don4 need to struggle so much to raise fund to invest. The DCA method of investment is a style of investment which people can invest with ease just with the amount you can afford.

You don't need to be worried about increasing your investment which is beyond your means of income, the most important thing is to be consistent with your investment no matter the amount it is and for sure there will be good result. It is always advisable to invest with amount you can afford, don't try to invest more than your means, with consistency you can be able to accumulate good amount of Bitcoin.   No need to stress yourself to increase your investment,  with accumulation you can get the increase you are looking for.

Our investment is meant to be within the level of our discretional income wether in terms of increasing our investment allocations or maintaining it, it is more like gambling for any one to invest more than their level of  discretional income because they will end up using the money that is meant for others living expenses to buy Bitcoin and at such may end up running after your investment to solve your other needs, indeed the concepts that is more reliable is to approach our investment without any form of pressure, but if there is any good reason to increase our investment amount it is also good, but it shouldn't be done by seeing it as a stress.
In my opinion, the pressure that is felt when investing in bitcoin reflects that the planning that was done was not carefully prepared before jumping directly into investing in bitcoin. Because in my opinion, someone who already has good planning before investing in Bitcoin, I don't think there will be much pressure when carrying it out. So I think this is something we sometimes forget to do.

Therefore, when planning to invest in bitcoin, you should first study the price cycle that always occurs in bitcoin. Then also think about how many years you will invest, for example 10 or 15 years. Then after that also think about what purchasing method you will use when investing in bitcoin, whether it is DCA or another method. Then also look at the financial condition you have, the job or business you are running, and only after that can you draw a conclusion about how much cold money you will invest. I think if we follow what I said, maybe we won't feel pressured when investing in bitcoin. So in essence we must have careful planning when investing in bitcoin. So that when you are carrying out your investment, it can run more smoothly.
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December 04, 2024, 08:12:44 AM
I disagree with you dude, it is true that some people are not comfortable with their holding while some are comfortable with their holding and those investors that are not comfortable with their..., and tends to increase their accumulation is not really a bad thing right but sometimes or most times it's not good because it can result to a lot of things like being biased, frustration, panicking, selling when you're investment is not mature or due because you will be so worked up because of the quest to increase one's accumulation, as a matter of fact you are imposing so much pressure on yourself. Just like I said earlier it's not really a bad thing but while not continue accumulating regardless and just be consistent and wait for such opportunity to come to increase your accumulation instead of striving to..., since one is investment for a long period of time you don't need to rush there's time for everything.
The reason for DCA method of investment is to make bitcoin investment easy, people don4 need to struggle so much to raise fund to invest. The DCA method of investment is a style of investment which people can invest with ease just with the amount you can afford.

You don't need to be worried about increasing your investment which is beyond your means of income, the most important thing is to be consistent with your investment no matter the amount it is and for sure there will be good result. It is always advisable to invest with amount you can afford, don't try to invest more than your means, with consistency you can be able to accumulate good amount of Bitcoin.   No need to stress yourself to increase your investment,  with accumulation you can get the increase you are looking for.

Our investment is meant to be within the level of our discretional income wether in terms of increasing our investment allocations or maintaining it, it is more like gambling for any one to invest more than their level of  discretional income because they will end up using the money that is meant for others living expenses to buy Bitcoin and at such may end up running after your investment to solve your other needs, indeed the concepts that is more reliable is to approach our investment without any form of pressure, but if there is any good reason to increase our investment amount it is also good, but it shouldn't be done by seeing it as a stress.
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December 04, 2024, 07:42:26 AM
Is this really true well for me I think is not because there are plans you will follow in your Bitcoin investment and it will delay you for example waiting for the dip, and if you are into Bitcoin investment you need to use only your Discretionary income for your Accumulation if you don't and you start using money meant for taxes, electricity, water, food etc you will hit the rock which will lead to you selling of all your Bitcoin .
So planning your Bitcoin investment is very important because if you don't plan well you will fail, we all know that as someone who is into Bitcoin investment is important you have a backup funds it helps prevent dipping hands into your Bitcoin investment.
One of the reasons why we always share ideas here is so we can learn from each other and come up with a good plan on how to follow our investment.
For me, for the first time, I didn't plan well about investing in Bitcoin, I just bought and held it. But over time I started to plan my accumulation in 2022, 2023 and until now. Sometimes we need a closer approach to Bitcoin and the arrangement of plans can be arranged better if we have found a comfortable strategy in accumulating Bitcoin.

Obviously, monthly income, weekly bonuses from work are one way to organize well where we will allocate how much percentage to buy bitcoin. For me, as long as our income continues to run normally, of course, bitcoin accumulation will run smoothly.

By adjusting the budget or increasing it more as long as the Bitcoin accumulation is still a material that I have to study more deeply. I still haven't been able to increase the budget to be more aggressive because my income is not increasing.

You can ONLY do what you can do in terms of your level of aggressiveness, except maybe studying other ways to either earn more income or to cut some expenses... yet we each have limitations, including that sometimes it just takes some patience if we are doing as much as we can, then we still likely are going to do o.k. as long as we are more conscious about being proactive, rather than just sitting on our early investment and not doing anything further when we could be adding to our stash, even if it is relatively small amounts... yet we still may well end up putting ourselves in a better position from having had invested into bitcoin for 2 or 3 cycles rather than not having had done so.

You are right however some set of people are so comfortable with there current level and they don't bother having another source of income or increasing the amount which they use to accumulate there Bitcoin why some people are usually not comfortable with there level they try to grow there current level and also increase the amount of there Bitcoin accumulation.
Now between this two set of people who do you think we do more better for me I think is those who are always uncomfortable with there current level and trying to increase the amount they use in accumulating Bitcoin, this set of people are the once who always accumulate and hodl consistently because they always want to change there current level or position.



I disagree with you dude, it is true that some people are not comfortable with their holding while some are comfortable with their holding and those investors that are not comfortable with their..., and tends to increase their accumulation is not really a bad thing right but sometimes or most times it's not good because it can result to a lot of things like being biased, frustration, panicking, selling when you're investment is not mature or due because you will be so worked up because of the quest to increase one's accumulation, as a matter of fact you are imposing so much pressure on yourself. Just like I said earlier it's not really a bad thing but while not continue accumulating regardless and just be consistent and wait for such opportunity to come to increase your accumulation instead of striving to..., since one is investment for a long period of time you don't need to rush there's time for everything.

If you are eager for a successful life those not mean you are rushing life, if maybe you are comfortable with the little Bitcoin you have accumulated there's no way you will continue your accumulation you will always feel the need not to in fact you will be using the money for another thing meaning you won't be consistent with your accumulation because you are already comfortable with the little you have accumulated.
For those who are not comfortable with there little accumulated Bitcoin will become more consistent in there accumulation journey, not being comfortable with one's little accumulated Bitcoin those not mean he will become frustrated, depressed or will cause pressure on him like you said, not being comfortable will only make him consistent in his or her accumulation journey.
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December 04, 2024, 06:21:33 AM
I disagree with you dude, it is true that some people are not comfortable with their holding while some are comfortable with their holding and those investors that are not comfortable with their..., and tends to increase their accumulation is not really a bad thing right but sometimes or most times it's not good because it can result to a lot of things like being biased, frustration, panicking, selling when you're investment is not mature or due because you will be so worked up because of the quest to increase one's accumulation, as a matter of fact you are imposing so much pressure on yourself. Just like I said earlier it's not really a bad thing but while not continue accumulating regardless and just be consistent and wait for such opportunity to come to increase your accumulation instead of striving to..., since one is investment for a long period of time you don't need to rush there's time for everything.
The reason for DCA method of investment is to make bitcoin investment easy, people don4 need to struggle so much to raise fund to invest. The DCA method of investment is a style of investment which people can invest with ease just with the amount you can afford.

You don't need to be worried about increasing your investment which is beyond your means of income, the most important thing is to be consistent with your investment no matter the amount it is and for sure there will be good result. It is always advisable to invest with amount you can afford, don't try to invest more than your means, with consistency you can be able to accumulate good amount of Bitcoin.   No need to stress yourself to increase your investment,  with accumulation you can get the increase you are looking for.
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December 04, 2024, 06:12:14 AM
You have no other option. I joke about the whalecumulators, but what else can we plebs do? Buy the dip, and HODL! You do not want to end up empty handed on the next cycle, https://twitter.com/misir_mahmudov/status/1118243131584065537

Always zoom out if in doubt, https://bitcoin.zorinaq.com/price/

Even when the whale accumulators buys, hodl and still keep on buying, why don't the plebes also buy, holdl and keep buying if we can? Well, let me say the challenges of the plebes is their financial levels because everyone are deed to buy only amount they can afford.
Don't we have this insight that our profits of investing on bitcoin is based on how of value we holds and how long we holds them knowing that bitcoin is a volatile currency and even in the global economy such as the stock, it still demands higher capital offers you higher profits.
So making it big in this bitcoin sector demands accusations if we're plebes. It's all about desires and disciplines to hit a sum of target.
Just get to buy either at the dip, bear or bullish sessions and hodl for the future market holds the best
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December 04, 2024, 05:45:21 AM
I personally don't have a set target for the number of Bitcoin that I want to accumulate into the future, because I don't want to put myself into unnecessary pressures to achieve the goal by all means. Although there's nothing wrong with setting a soft target for yourself into the future, perhaps in 10 years time to achieve a reasonable amount of Bitcoin but there's no need to over labor yourself or deny yourself of basic needs that are essential to live a healthy lifestyle because you want to accumulate 1 or 2 Bitcoin within the timeframe.
You are getting it twisted, setting a target doesn't mean that you should not take care of your basic needs or monthly expenses neither deprive yourself from other important things that must be done. Setting a target will only enable you stay focus and work towards it with all commitments and determination because you have a goal to achieve. For instance, you will be careful with the way you spend your extra funds and cut down expenses on stuffs that you can do without. For instance, drinking two bottles of beer every week or the money that you put use to gamble every week will be channel into accumulating more bitcoin apart from your DCA.

Also, whenever you have extra funds that you don't expect or plans for, it will make you think of buying bitcoin with it right away because you don't want the money to be used for something that will not be beneficial to you in future. The investor can easily lump sum happily with such funds because he has the zeal and passion to reach his bitcoin target.
Bitcoin investment does not need pressure to invest because it's a long term process, otherwise, you might end up selling your bitcoin when there is too much pressure on your finance because you are doing it the wrong way. Bitcoin investment should be done the right way for success in future.
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DCA method for example gives you the ease to accumulate according to your income at any particular time, no need to overpressure yourself and miss out on having a meaningful life by overstretching yourself in the cause of wanting to meet up with unrealistic targets that your income can not accommodate. It'll be unwise to stash your bag with a reasonable amount of Bitcoin in the future then not be in good health or sound mind to enjoy part of it in your retirement or worse don't even be alive to enjoy it. What I focus on is the percentage of my income that I set aside for my DCA method, that is where I have a constant for my accumulation, not the amount of Bitcoin that I must have in my retirement.
Of course, the amount of money that we use to DCA should be the amount from our discretionary income that is cool with us to continue buying with such amount overtime till we have an increase in our discretionary income. If not, if you go and overdo it with a bigger amount that will affect yout expenses, it means that you are gambling and will end up selling your bitcoin investment at loss when you want to take care of your needs.

However, if you have a target, that will not make you think of acquiring bitcoin in a wimpish way of just been satisfied with only the amount that you can use to buy bitcoin weekly when you can increase it and it wouldn't affect you financially. For instance, when you don't have a bitcoin target, your discretionary income might be $100 and you will be cool with buying bitcoin with $40, because you feel you don't have any target and don't need to invest too much on bitcoin. When you can invest $70 instead of $40. You might have a salary increase and still feel cool of using your initial amount to DCA instead of increasing it.

Having a bitcoin target is another form of motivation on its own to make you find different means and opportunities out there to increase your income. One thing that you should know is that, it's impossible for anyone to be investing in bitcoin for long without an emergency funds to take care of your health and whatever unforeseen challenges that you will face, if not you will sell your bitcoin before time to solve them.

One thing that you should understand is that we might set a target and be seriously working on accumulating such quantity of bitcoin but due to the time frame and the price of bitcoin in the long run with how our income will play out in the long run, we might not be able to reach our exact target but we would definitely get closer it to, despite all the seriousness and persistent to keep our bitcoin accumulation ongoing.
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December 04, 2024, 05:02:02 AM
Is this really true well for me I think is not because there are plans you will follow in your Bitcoin investment and it will delay you for example waiting for the dip, and if you are into Bitcoin investment you need to use only your Discretionary income for your Accumulation if you don't and you start using money meant for taxes, electricity, water, food etc you will hit the rock which will lead to you selling of all your Bitcoin .
So planning your Bitcoin investment is very important because if you don't plan well you will fail, we all know that as someone who is into Bitcoin investment is important you have a backup funds it helps prevent dipping hands into your Bitcoin investment.
One of the reasons why we always share ideas here is so we can learn from each other and come up with a good plan on how to follow our investment.

For me, for the first time, I didn't plan well about investing in Bitcoin, I just bought and held it. But over time I started to plan my accumulation in 2022, 2023 and until now. Sometimes we need a closer approach to Bitcoin and the arrangement of plans can be arranged better if we have found a comfortable strategy in accumulating Bitcoin.

Obviously, monthly income, weekly bonuses from work are one way to organize well where we will allocate how much percentage to buy bitcoin. For me, as long as our income continues to run normally, of course, bitcoin accumulation will run smoothly.

By adjusting the budget or increasing it more as long as the Bitcoin accumulation is still a material that I have to study more deeply. I still haven't been able to increase the budget to be more aggressive because my income is not increasing.


You can ONLY do what you can do in terms of your level of aggressiveness, except maybe studying other ways to either earn more income or to cut some expenses... yet we each have limitations, including that sometimes it just takes some patience if we are doing as much as we can, then we still likely are going to do o.k. as long as we are more conscious about being proactive, rather than just sitting on our early investment and not doing anything further when we could be adding to our stash, even if it is relatively small amounts... yet we still may well end up putting ourselves in a better position from having had invested into bitcoin for 2 or 3 cycles rather than not having had done so.


That's definitely the RIGHT attitude, especially for those people who doesn't have large amount of capital to make life-changing money in one mere cycle. Plus it probably also should not be merely about the money, but make the journey itself is our life-long "vocation". Because the Central Banks will never stop printing money, our job as Bitcoin investors/users is simply to buy more whether it's during bear cycle DIPs, or DCA during any kind of market situation. Bitcoin's long term value will NEVER go down as long as the Central Banks will keep expanding their balance sheet through BRRRRR-Money-Printing.
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December 04, 2024, 04:29:08 AM
Is this really true well for me I think is not because there are plans you will follow in your Bitcoin investment and it will delay you for example waiting for the dip, and if you are into Bitcoin investment you need to use only your Discretionary income for your Accumulation if you don't and you start using money meant for taxes, electricity, water, food etc you will hit the rock which will lead to you selling of all your Bitcoin .
So planning your Bitcoin investment is very important because if you don't plan well you will fail, we all know that as someone who is into Bitcoin investment is important you have a backup funds it helps prevent dipping hands into your Bitcoin investment.
One of the reasons why we always share ideas here is so we can learn from each other and come up with a good plan on how to follow our investment.
For me, for the first time, I didn't plan well about investing in Bitcoin, I just bought and held it. But over time I started to plan my accumulation in 2022, 2023 and until now. Sometimes we need a closer approach to Bitcoin and the arrangement of plans can be arranged better if we have found a comfortable strategy in accumulating Bitcoin.

Obviously, monthly income, weekly bonuses from work are one way to organize well where we will allocate how much percentage to buy bitcoin. For me, as long as our income continues to run normally, of course, bitcoin accumulation will run smoothly.

By adjusting the budget or increasing it more as long as the Bitcoin accumulation is still a material that I have to study more deeply. I still haven't been able to increase the budget to be more aggressive because my income is not increasing.

You can ONLY do what you can do in terms of your level of aggressiveness, except maybe studying other ways to either earn more income or to cut some expenses... yet we each have limitations, including that sometimes it just takes some patience if we are doing as much as we can, then we still likely are going to do o.k. as long as we are more conscious about being proactive, rather than just sitting on our early investment and not doing anything further when we could be adding to our stash, even if it is relatively small amounts... yet we still may well end up putting ourselves in a better position from having had invested into bitcoin for 2 or 3 cycles rather than not having had done so.

You are right however some set of people are so comfortable with there current level and they don't bother having another source of income or increasing the amount which they use to accumulate there Bitcoin why some people are usually not comfortable with there level they try to grow there current level and also increase the amount of there Bitcoin accumulation.
Now between this two set of people who do you think we do more better for me I think is those who are always uncomfortable with there current level and trying to increase the amount they use in accumulating Bitcoin, this set of people are the once who always accumulate and hodl consistently because they always want to change there current level or position.



I disagree with you dude, it is true that some people are not comfortable with their holding while some are comfortable with their holding and those investors that are not comfortable with their..., and tends to increase their accumulation is not really a bad thing right but sometimes or most times it's not good because it can result to a lot of things like being biased, frustration, panicking, selling when you're investment is not mature or due because you will be so worked up because of the quest to increase one's accumulation, as a matter of fact you are imposing so much pressure on yourself. Just like I said earlier it's not really a bad thing but while not continue accumulating regardless and just be consistent and wait for such opportunity to come to increase your accumulation instead of striving to..., since one is investment for a long period of time you don't need to rush there's time for everything.
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December 04, 2024, 03:16:23 AM
The more bitcoin you collect the more profit, because you can store it for a long time and this will be the DCA method. But currently if someone invested in October and his investment increased by 2 to 3 times in November then surely most success is possible with proven bitcoin long term holding.
  Note that the bull market is not over yet, so even with bullish prices, if you hold Bitcoin with the DCA method, you will save on the purchase price. That's why DCA method is the best and has the most role in Bitcoin investment, so you accumulate Bitcoins little by little in which you can accumulate the maximum . And stay away from bank deposit, deposit bitcoin money.


My goal is to be able to get the bitcoin using the DCA method, no matter how long it takes me but even if the price of bitcoin Increases I will continue to accumulate anyway, I don't care, seeing that the money in fiat increases there are Emotions , but more emotions seeing that the satoshis grow, and that is what many should see that a bitcoin is that, a btcoin, which is the goal, I hope this can be done for more, but I'm sure that if I make 1 btc then I will continue to make the 2nd, that's the idea , that's the purpose of this.


By virtue, anyhow you plan your investment in Bitcoin is not the issue, just continue to have that stash of it until your joy is full. The DCA approach is good but some are just buying when they have extra money regardless of the price, they use it as their means of "savings" instead of wasting their money in bank accounts. That was what I did between 2022 and 2023, and today, I tell you that I am very happy with the decision.
You are very wrong; if you don't plan your bitcoin investment in the right way, I bet you will sell your bitcoin investment along your accumulation journey just to survive. For instance, if you use the money that is meant to sort out your daily expenses to accumulate bitcoin or you use your whole money to invest in bitcoin, you will end up selling your bitcoin even though you are at a loss to sort out your daily expenses. We should always use the money that we will not be needing for like 4-10 years or more to invest in bitcoin. so that we will not be in a hurry to sell our bitcoin investment, which will allow us to hold our bitcoin for a long time.

And I remind you, if you have bought bitcoin and stored it in your wallet. Don't forget to write your wallet phrase and keep it in a safe place. Then the paper containing the wallet phrase code must be laminated directly. So the paper is not eaten by termites and remains safe even if stored for years.
I know you are a newbie, but I want you to understand you don't need to wait until you buy bitcoin in your bitcoin wallet before you can keep your seed phrase or private key safe. Immediately you create your bitcoin wallet, the next thing to do is to write down your seed phrase or private key on a piece of paper and store it in a place that is only known to you and free from natural disasters. And also stop connecting your phone to public WiFi so that you will not expose your bitcoin wallet to scammers, which will give them access to your bitcoin wallet.
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December 04, 2024, 03:00:55 AM
Yeah it is of the nature of every investors to dream big about their future accomplishment, so setting a reasonable target is good way to start the process but not every target is encouraged, so actually I would say that having a set target of 2 Bitcoin to achieve in all of his life does not sound like a target because the conviction will be very low and as the time goes you will start losing interest because of the belief that you still have a good number of years ahead of you to meet up and from such mindset other things will come in play and occupy your mind from thinking about your investment, meanwhile as we normally talk about few years targets is better because it gives us the discipline that whatever thing we do we have something very important to reach out and that idea will now be installed on our head.
So having a target of wanting to own 1 or 2 bitcoins, I don't think is a problem. Maybe the problem is people who don't invest in bitcoin, just kidding. Cheesy

I couldn't get much meaning to what you are saying because i don't no the business of people who doesn't invest on Bitcoin have with the targets of acquiring 1 Bitcoin and secondly nobody is against the idea of 1 Bitcoin but all we are just saying is that to be more proactive you need to eradicate the impression of I want to have 1 Bitcoin without a target because there is no zeel attached to it and is just mere word and the fire is not in you, for example if you have plan of owning a plot of land that would possibly worth $23k, would you just say you would acquire the property before getting old? or you will condition yourself with a task that within that time to a particular period you should be able to get the property?, so in relation to Bitcoin investment that's actually what we are talking about.
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December 04, 2024, 02:37:12 AM
i might not totally agree with you that while investing in  bitcoin you should just set up a plan of accumulating 2 bitcoin and use the whole of your life in getting to that planned figure.

Yeah it is of the nature of every investors to dream big about their future accomplishment, so setting a reasonable target is good way to start the process but not every target is encouraged, so actually I would say that having a set target of 2 Bitcoin to achieve in all of his life does not sound like a target because the conviction will be very low and as the time goes you will start losing interest because of the belief that you still have a good number of years ahead of you to meet up and from such mindset other things will come in play and occupy your mind from thinking about your investment, meanwhile as we normally talk about few years targets is better because it gives us the discipline that whatever thing we do we have something very important to reach out and that idea will now be installed on our head.
I personally don't have a set target for the number of Bitcoin that I want to accumulate into the future, because I don't want to put myself into unnecessary pressures to achieve the goal by all means. Although there's nothing wrong with setting a soft target for yourself into the future, perhaps in 10 years time to achieve a reasonable amount of Bitcoin but there's no need to over labor yourself or deny yourself of basic needs that are essential to live a healthy lifestyle because you want to accumulate 1 or 2 Bitcoin within the timeframe.

DCA method for example gives you the ease to accumulate according to your income at any particular time, no need to overpressure yourself and miss out on having a meaningful life by overstretching yourself in the cause of wanting to meet up with unrealistic targets that your income can not accommodate. It'll be unwise to stash your bag with a reasonable amount of Bitcoin in the future then not be in good health or sound mind to enjoy part of it in your retirement or worse don't even be alive to enjoy it. What I focus on is the percentage of my income that I set aside for my DCA method, that is where I have a constant for my accumulation, not the amount of Bitcoin that I must have in my retirement.
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December 04, 2024, 02:26:24 AM
The more bitcoin you collect the more profit, because you can store it for a long time and this will be the DCA method. But currently if someone invested in October and his investment increased by 2 to 3 times in November then surely most success is possible with proven bitcoin long term holding.
  Note that the bull market is not over yet, so even with bullish prices, if you hold Bitcoin with the DCA method, you will save on the purchase price. That's why DCA method is the best and has the most role in Bitcoin investment, so you accumulate Bitcoins little by little in which you can accumulate the maximum . And stay away from bank deposit, deposit bitcoin money.


My goal is to be able to get the bitcoin using the DCA method, no matter how long it takes me but even if the price of bitcoin Increases I will continue to accumulate anyway, I don't care, seeing that the money in fiat increases there are Emotions , but more emotions seeing that the satoshis grow, and that is what many should see that a bitcoin is that, a btcoin, which is the goal, I hope this can be done for more, but I'm sure that if I make 1 btc then I will continue to make the 2nd, that's the idea , that's the purpose of this.


I wish you the very best of luck in your Bitcoin quest, and you know what, Bitcoin got you. I've never seen an asset that is as reliable as Bitcoin, that's the truth, so no one bets in favour of Bitcoin and loses in the end. But those who bet against Bitcoin will always find themselves to blame, it can only delay but will surely happen.

By virtue, anyhow you plan your investment in Bitcoin is not the issue, just continue to have that stash of it until your joy is full. The DCA approach is good but some are just buying when they have extra money regardless of the price, they use it as their means of "savings" instead of wasting their money in bank accounts. That was what I did between 2022 and 2023, and today, I tell you that I am very happy with the decision.

Is this really true well for me I think is not because there are plans you will follow in your Bitcoin investment and it will delay you for example waiting for the dip, and if you are into Bitcoin investment you need to use only your Discretionary income for your Accumulation if you don't and you start using money meant for taxes, electricity, water, food etc you will hit the rock which will lead to you selling of all your Bitcoin .
So planning your Bitcoin investment is very important because if you don't plan well you will fail, we all know that as someone who is into Bitcoin investment is important you have a backup funds it helps prevent dipping hands into your Bitcoin investment.
One of the reasons why we always share ideas here is so we can learn from each other and come up with a good plan on how to follow our investment.
Sometimes people intend to put their self into difficulty by trying to use money meant personal needs to invest into Bitcoin not knowing that Bitcoin investment is a longer time money for Bitcoin investment should be money you won't be needing for long just like you have said that it should come from your discretionary income. Also waiting for the dip will only delay your Bitcoin investment journey because sometimes it may not even dip investor who can choose to wait for the dip before accumulating Bitcoin are properly those that has gotten to their Bitcoin accumulation target or those that has been accumulating Bitcoin for the past 8 years or more may decide to little by little during the dip but for new investors is a wrong idea to wait for the dip that's why the DCA strategy is there to help an investor accumulate Bitcoin gradually regardless of the price and continue hodling, the dip should only be an opportunity for an investor to accumulate enough Bitcoin and HODL.
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December 04, 2024, 02:23:25 AM
Is this really true well for me I think is not because there are plans you will follow in your Bitcoin investment and it will delay you for example waiting for the dip, and if you are into Bitcoin investment you need to use only your Discretionary income for your Accumulation if you don't and you start using money meant for taxes, electricity, water, food etc you will hit the rock which will lead to you selling of all your Bitcoin .
So planning your Bitcoin investment is very important because if you don't plan well you will fail, we all know that as someone who is into Bitcoin investment is important you have a backup funds it helps prevent dipping hands into your Bitcoin investment.
One of the reasons why we always share ideas here is so we can learn from each other and come up with a good plan on how to follow our investment.
For me, for the first time, I didn't plan well about investing in Bitcoin, I just bought and held it. But over time I started to plan my accumulation in 2022, 2023 and until now. Sometimes we need a closer approach to Bitcoin and the arrangement of plans can be arranged better if we have found a comfortable strategy in accumulating Bitcoin.

Obviously, monthly income, weekly bonuses from work are one way to organize well where we will allocate how much percentage to buy bitcoin. For me, as long as our income continues to run normally, of course, bitcoin accumulation will run smoothly.

By adjusting the budget or increasing it more as long as the Bitcoin accumulation is still a material that I have to study more deeply. I still haven't been able to increase the budget to be more aggressive because my income is not increasing.

You can ONLY do what you can do in terms of your level of aggressiveness, except maybe studying other ways to either earn more income or to cut some expenses... yet we each have limitations, including that sometimes it just takes some patience if we are doing as much as we can, then we still likely are going to do o.k. as long as we are more conscious about being proactive, rather than just sitting on our early investment and not doing anything further when we could be adding to our stash, even if it is relatively small amounts... yet we still may well end up putting ourselves in a better position from having had invested into bitcoin for 2 or 3 cycles rather than not having had done so.

You are right however some set of people are so comfortable with there current level and they don't bother having another source of income or increasing the amount which they use to accumulate there Bitcoin why some people are usually not comfortable with there level they try to grow there current level and also increase the amount of there Bitcoin accumulation.
Now between this two set of people who do you think we do more better for me I think is those who are always uncomfortable with there current level and trying to increase the amount they use in accumulating Bitcoin, this set of people are the once who always accumulate and hodl consistently because they always want to change there current level or position.

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December 04, 2024, 01:16:13 AM
Only those who invest what they can't afford  would be scared of volatility and the reason for DCA a method is for investors to just only buy the amount of Bitcoin that they afford, this helps in accumulating bitcoin without any stress and with this method of investing their is no need to be scared of the volatility of the market because you are not expecting profit in a short time. DCA method of investing is a longterm investment which you don't have any business of volatility for profit so soon, you only just take advantage of the dip whenever you come across it because it is also a good opportunity for investors to but during the dip. DCA method of investment is all about buying bitcoin at the rate which you can afford and no need for fear of volatility because it is not an investment one is depending to make profit very quick .
You make a great point. An investor should probably know how to retain and increase purchasing power if not volatility will be a thing that they know of but will be scared of. And even in DCA investors might get low on funds in purchasing Bitcoin with the actual amount they've been using. Most times it is a result of lacking a steady stream of income which may be that they lost their job without having a business or any other investment to tap from. To be more realistic, investors and aspiring investors should have a decent approach while investing. They need to be smart and watch the source they get the money they use for their investment. Whenever we feel uncomfortable with our investment, we can have a shift in the amount we use in investing so we don't crumble our business or do anything that will affect the source of our income. While accumulation is important if we see a means to make more money than we can venture into it after making observations and having our conclusion on it. This doesn't mean we get to stop our accumulation entirely. Rather we can reduce the percentage we use in investing so we can get things right and working smoothly for us. Although it might take some period for the business or investment to start yielding something for us. In the end it's still a better approach.

There is a reason why it's basically said before investing in Bitcoin you should atleast have a Workin jobs that can atleast cover for some expenses, and also have different saving plans like emergency funds, and other discretionary funds so you get affected or need to lower or temper with the amount you are using to buy the Bitcoin or the saved up Bitcoin.
Yea, it's true, I think these are what it entails to be sound and effective in not just your Bitcoin accumulation journey, but also your ability to hold strong even in the face of financial crisis you may encounter at some point along the line in your Bitcoin accumulating and investment journey, so having a source of income or more and an emergency funds kept aside is the ideal recipe needed to buy and hold strong because patience alone is not enough as a Bitcoin investor.

Then lastly, as a Bitcoin investor, it's best to invest with the mindset of holding for a very long period of time, because the way Bitcoin is being structured, in other to reap the full dividend of your Bitcoin investment, it's best you hold for a very long period of time, because the more time's flies, the more Bitcoin appreciate in value.
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December 03, 2024, 11:40:30 PM
Is this really true well for me I think is not because there are plans you will follow in your Bitcoin investment and it will delay you for example waiting for the dip, and if you are into Bitcoin investment you need to use only your Discretionary income for your Accumulation if you don't and you start using money meant for taxes, electricity, water, food etc you will hit the rock which will lead to you selling of all your Bitcoin .
So planning your Bitcoin investment is very important because if you don't plan well you will fail, we all know that as someone who is into Bitcoin investment is important you have a backup funds it helps prevent dipping hands into your Bitcoin investment.
One of the reasons why we always share ideas here is so we can learn from each other and come up with a good plan on how to follow our investment.
For me, for the first time, I didn't plan well about investing in Bitcoin, I just bought and held it. But over time I started to plan my accumulation in 2022, 2023 and until now. Sometimes we need a closer approach to Bitcoin and the arrangement of plans can be arranged better if we have found a comfortable strategy in accumulating Bitcoin.

Obviously, monthly income, weekly bonuses from work are one way to organize well where we will allocate how much percentage to buy bitcoin. For me, as long as our income continues to run normally, of course, bitcoin accumulation will run smoothly.

By adjusting the budget or increasing it more as long as the Bitcoin accumulation is still a material that I have to study more deeply. I still haven't been able to increase the budget to be more aggressive because my income is not increasing.

You can ONLY do what you can do in terms of your level of aggressiveness, except maybe studying other ways to either earn more income or to cut some expenses... yet we each have limitations, including that sometimes it just takes some patience if we are doing as much as we can, then we still likely are going to do o.k. as long as we are more conscious about being proactive, rather than just sitting on our early investment and not doing anything further when we could be adding to our stash, even if it is relatively small amounts... yet we still may well end up putting ourselves in a better position from having had invested into bitcoin for 2 or 3 cycles rather than not having had done so.
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December 03, 2024, 07:37:11 PM
Only those who invest what they can't afford  would be scared of volatility and the reason for DCA a method is for investors to just only buy the amount of Bitcoin that they afford, this helps in accumulating bitcoin without any stress and with this method of investing their is no need to be scared of the volatility of the market because you are not expecting profit in a short time. DCA method of investing is a longterm investment which you don't have any business of volatility for profit so soon, you only just take advantage of the dip whenever you come across it because it is also a good opportunity for investors to but during the dip. DCA method of investment is all about buying bitcoin at the rate which you can afford and no need for fear of volatility because it is not an investment one is depending to make profit very quick .
You make a great point. An investor should probably know how to retain and increase purchasing power if not volatility will be a thing that they know of but will be scared of. And even in DCA investors might get low on funds in purchasing Bitcoin with the actual amount they've been using. Most times it is a result of lacking a steady stream of income which may be that they lost their job without having a business or any other investment to tap from. To be more realistic, investors and aspiring investors should have a decent approach while investing. They need to be smart and watch the source they get the money they use for their investment. Whenever we feel uncomfortable with our investment, we can have a shift in the amount we use in investing so we don't crumble our business or do anything that will affect the source of our income. While accumulation is important if we see a means to make more money than we can venture into it after making observations and having our conclusion on it. This doesn't mean we get to stop our accumulation entirely. Rather we can reduce the percentage we use in investing so we can get things right and working smoothly for us. Although it might take some period for the business or investment to start yielding something for us. In the end it's still a better approach.

There is a reason why it's basically said before investing in Bitcoin you should atleast have a Workin jobs that can atleast cover for some expenses, and also have different saving plans like emergency funds, and other discretionary funds so you get affected or need to lower or temper with the amount you are using to buy the Bitcoin or the saved up Bitcoin.
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December 03, 2024, 06:28:17 PM

Sometimes a person may have created a budget and he is executing his BTC investment plan, and maybe 6-12 months down the road, he realizes that he made some mistakes in his budget.  One of the great things about making a plan is that there likely would be various cushions built into the plan and if mistakes are made, then the mistakes can be addressed along the way in order to make the plan stronger at the later point down the road... versus someone who had not planned very well, then that person gets themselves into a pickle since he had not planned very well and probably did not include any kind of financial and/or psychological cushion in regards to whatever he had been doing...so planning and tweaking along the way are great things for anyone in their earliest years of investing, and it can take a bit of time to really get used to following the plan and adjusting it along the way and reaching various goals along the way, too.
Mistakes are not supposed to be much of a deal to the process, life is full of mistakes/regrets/assuming to have picked a better option but at most how we relieve ourselves matters, when decision making becomes a skill it is the easiest way out from such mistakes. For anyone who has failed to plan, may have already made plans to just rub off the surface of investing, any heat can eventually pull out such a person from his investment plan without a second thought. I suggest anyone to stick with making those plans, accepting mistakes and taking corrections if it does happens, adjusting is better than no planning.
You haven't said anything wrong nor have JayJuanGee said anything except the truth, perhaps I will have to add this; chasing perfection should never be part of the plan of any investor or a yone into bitcoin investment whether newbies or someone who's already deep into it.

Trying to make everything perfect only results in one thing which is not achieving a good goal because basically life is never meant to be simple so every step you take towards achieving great goals like bitcoin investment it will have to throw some stones towards you all you have to do is pick them up and build a shade towards your investment so that nothing can wave you to the extent of wanting to sell your holdings.

Since mistakes is inevitable one should prioritise achieving the slightest amount of bitcoin instead of complaining about ones mistakes or quitting the journey out of regrets. perhaps all have have to do is follow the plans and weigh your budget with your plans if they are compatible enough to carry out as time goes on where changes needs to be made then you can make them yet achieving your bitcoin which is the real deal.
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December 03, 2024, 05:06:28 PM
i might not totally agree with you that while investing in  bitcoin you should just set up a plan of accumulating 2 bitcoin and use the whole of your life in getting to that planned figure.
Yeah it is of the nature of every investors to dream big about their future accomplishment, so setting a reasonable target is good way to start the process but not every target is encouraged, so actually I would say that having a set target of 2 Bitcoin to achieve in all of his life does not sound like a target because the conviction will be very low and as the time goes you will start losing interest because of the belief that you still have a good number of years ahead of you to meet up and from such mindset other things will come in play and occupy your mind from thinking about your investment, meanwhile as we normally talk about few years targets is better because it gives us the discipline that whatever thing we do we have something very important to reach out and that idea will now be installed on our head.
You are absolutely right and I think I get your point and of course this doesn't only happen in Bitcoin investment even in some other investment and activities, I have once set target on something that by the end of the month this where I want to reach in this..., but as days goes by I began to feel reluctant and weak reason because even if I don't achieve it that set date I will still achieve it sooner or later and to a point it was more like an procrastinating not even because I was lazy or not determined but because i believe I can still get to that set target so I have to stop and just do it in a normal way and then I start making progress. I'm not saying that setting a target is not good but sometimes it's not good  it can make one reluctant or procrastinate thereby making one to lose some opportunity as a result of not completing a set target on time.
It is careless of an investor not to include budget while starting up his investment, implementing this will serve as a precaution for consistency and enough reason why to keep the investment rolling. Everyone wants to invest in Bitcoin and earn profits but just a few are willing to subdue their funds as capital into their investment journey without a second thought of cutting off. Creating a budget is more like a predicted goal, you don't create a budget that is beyond once source of income, it should be in line with what the investor has to offer, close check from earnings, to expenses and what is left after every bills being sorted.

No way can drafting a budget make anyone reluctant, from where you started and total destination creates the impact of being more productive knowing that there is a target to be reached. An investor who chooses to be reluctant after setting a budget did so based on his personal regards and nothing else to explain.

Sometimes a person may have created a budget and he is executing his BTC investment plan, and maybe 6-12 months down the road, he realizes that he made some mistakes in his budget.  One of the great things about making a plan is that there likely would be various cushions built into the plan and if mistakes are made, then the mistakes can be addressed along the way in order to make the plan stronger at the later point down the road... versus someone who had not planned very well, then that person gets themselves into a pickle since he had not planned very well and probably did not include any kind of financial and/or psychological cushion in regards to whatever he had been doing...so planning and tweaking along the way are great things for anyone in their earliest years of investing, and it can take a bit of time to really get used to following the plan and adjusting it along the way and reaching various goals along the way, too.
Mistakes are not supposed to be much of a deal to the process, life is full of mistakes/regrets/assuming to have picked a better option but at most how we relieve ourselves matters, when decision making becomes a skill it is the easiest way out from such mistakes. For anyone who has failed to plan, may have already made plans to just rub off the surface of investing, any heat can eventually pull out such a person from his investment plan without a second thought. I suggest anyone to stick with making those plans, accepting mistakes and taking corrections if it does happens, adjusting is better than no planning.
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