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August 14, 2024, 12:01:34 AM
Perhaps the only way to learn is to ask questions, I would prefer you ask questions where seems confusing to you than for you to create some level of assumptions that seems very lame and unrealistic. looking at the context of the thread there are few other threads where you can learn basic things about bitcoin investment and smarter ways to buy and hold for a longer term if you indicate interest in them or such thread I will be glad to refer you to some of JayJuanGee's thread which he discussed the basics on each entry that you could make. this threads are even suggested outside the forum which shows the level of original and how true it is, now I would love you to ask or request for links if you're interested but if not you can stick with this thread and ask questions instead of confusing others with your own perspectives.
Okay, thank you in advance.
In this thread I read a lot about DCA, and after I found out that this strategy I think everyone can use it because it doesn't seem to need a lot of money to do it, you just have to be consistent in doing it.
But is DCA the best strategy to use?
I don't know the thought of other investors here but for me the DCA strategy is the best because if you are custom using the DCA strategy you are at advantage because there are times when you can still use the lump sum strategy when you an unexpected money comes your way you can also accumulate when there is dip this one's may come ones a while but with the DCA strategy you can still accumulate more Bitcoin inrespective of the price level either weekly or monthly as long as your discretionary income is intact with a long term motive from 4-10 and above because with DCA strategy you are always steady in the BTC market.
As you think DCA investment strategy from your side is the most effective and correct investment strategy, so also from my side I think DCA investment strategy is the most effective investment strategy. Not just me but everyone who invests thinks the DCA investment strategy is an effective and a sound investment strategy in their own way. 

DCA investment strategy has made our investment approach much simpler. Those who have invested before and those who are investing now are themselves realizing the difference between investing in this strategy and the previous strategy. An investor can now start investing with a minimum amount of money but no one thought of doing this before. Previously, investors used to pool a certain amount of money and then invest it, but now instead of keeping a certain amount of money, investors invest that fixed amount continuously.

I got a complete understanding of this strategy through this section because I knew roughly about the DCA investment strategy earlier but got a detailed understanding of it in this section.
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August 13, 2024, 11:52:35 PM
Perhaps the only way to learn is to ask questions, I would prefer you ask questions where seems confusing to you than for you to create some level of assumptions that seems very lame and unrealistic. looking at the context of the thread there are few other threads where you can learn basic things about bitcoin investment and smarter ways to buy and hold for a longer term if you indicate interest in them or such thread I will be glad to refer you to some of JayJuanGee's thread which he discussed the basics on each entry that you could make. this threads are even suggested outside the forum which shows the level of original and how true it is, now I would love you to ask or request for links if you're interested but if not you can stick with this thread and ask questions instead of confusing others with your own perspectives.
Okay, thank you in advance.
In this thread I read a lot about DCA, and after I found out that this strategy I think everyone can use it because it doesn't seem to need a lot of money to do it, you just have to be consistent in doing it.
But is DCA the best strategy to use?
Apparently, Dollar Cost Averaging is the best strategy for me and you to invest in bitcoin, there are solid reason why DCA is currently the best for you. there is no way buying the dips would be the best for you at this point because you don't know for sure when there will be dips although at this moment we are still in the dips but why I say it's not best for you now is because you have to wait for some time which is not certain to buy but DCA gives you the opportunity to buy instant and not wait for any reason. Futhermore, buying the dips strategy always gives you a discount but the inconvenience in buying the dips matters too DCA gives you around opportunity which includes time to settle all other necessary things outside investment.

There are more reason I would prefer or reference you to DCA strategy but I would say less because you will find out the rest here as time goes on if you listen carefully to JayJuanGee's clarifications.

Of course, guys have to figure out what they are going to do within the three main methods, which is DCA, lump sum and buying on dips, and each of the techniques has its advantages and disadvantages depending on where a person might be in terms of how long he has been in bitcoin and what his goals might be.  Even in the very beginning a guy might start out with a lump sum amount that he could invest into bitcoin right away or he could separate the lump sum into the three buying categories of DCA, lump sum (buying right away) and buying on dip.  Some folks do not even have any lump sum amount they can start out with, and yet DCA can work very well for them to be able to buy bitcoin as their cash comes in and/or their expenses are calculated so they know how much extra they have which could result in their being able to buy BTC every single week., or however they structure their DCA purchase times  based on their own cashflow situation.

Sure a brand new person to bitcoin might not know whether he wants to be aggressive or whimpy in his investment style, and so if he makes sure that he is getting his finances in order int terms of back up funds, he can tailor the level of his aggressiveness in terms of his own finances and psychology.. which should include his consideration of his individual 9 factors.

By the way, DCA is meant to apply to something like bitcoin based on a level of confidence that any of us should be able to figure out that it will likely increase in price, even thought the price is likely to be volatile along the way, and I doubt that there is any shitcoin that can inspire such confidence, even though people do buy into shitcoins, yet more they are things to get in and out of rather than something to rely on in the long term, even though people also conclude them to be investments - and that is their choice, which seems kind of dumb and/or short sighted to allow any of the shitcoins to be more than 10% of your bitcoin holding, so hopefully you keep them to less than 10% if you cannot resist those kinds of temptations to gamble (and/or trade).
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August 13, 2024, 06:15:03 PM
You are a beginner in investment. You shouldn't worry about what others are doing. Do the best you can but the best way is to maintain consistency and dont focus on the market price at each point in time if not you would not be able to start your investment. There are several strategies for Bitcoin investment but DCA is one method that has been adopted by both new and old investors. With time you will know what strategy would best fit your risk tolerance, financial strength and accumulate goals. If you have enough funds you an choose to lump sum so that you have a good amount of Bitcoin in your portfolio.

The only strategy i have been against is people timing the market. When an investor do that they are more prone to miss out in opportunities they fully wait for. Every point is a good time to buy Bitcoin whether we are lump suming or dcaing.

He should have a plan and asking about whether DCA is the best strategy for him to use as a beginner is surely the best for him. In order for him to have focus and consistency in something, he needs to have a strategy that’ll make him not regret his decision into investing in bitcoin. Both long and new investors in bitcoin have enjoyed the DCA strategy and should not sway away from it. The market is very controversial and the volatility nature of it can be disturbing for newbies. Sticking to the DCA strategy will be of help and they should work on their psychology and not be panicked when there’s a downturn in the market but use it more often to their advantage instead of leaving the market so soon due to panic of losing their funds.
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August 13, 2024, 05:50:03 PM
Perhaps the only way to learn is to ask questions, I would prefer you ask questions where seems confusing to you than for you to create some level of assumptions that seems very lame and unrealistic. looking at the context of the thread there are few other threads where you can learn basic things about bitcoin investment and smarter ways to buy and hold for a longer term if you indicate interest in them or such thread I will be glad to refer you to some of JayJuanGee's thread which he discussed the basics on each entry that you could make. this threads are even suggested outside the forum which shows the level of original and how true it is, now I would love you to ask or request for links if you're interested but if not you can stick with this thread and ask questions instead of confusing others with your own perspectives.
Okay, thank you in advance.
In this thread I read a lot about DCA, and after I found out that this strategy I think everyone can use it because it doesn't seem to need a lot of money to do it, you just have to be consistent in doing it.
But is DCA the best strategy to use?
You are a beginner in investment. You shouldn't worry about what others are doing. Do the best you can but the best way is to maintain consistency and dont focus on the market price at each point in time if not you would not be able to start your investment. There are several strategies for Bitcoin investment but DCA is one method that has been adopted by both new and old investors. With time you will know what strategy would best fit your risk tolerance, financial strength and accumulate goals. If you have enough funds you an choose to lump sum so that you have a good amount of Bitcoin in your portfolio.

The only strategy i have been against is people timing the market. When an investor do that they are more prone to miss out in opportunities they fully wait for. Every point is a good time to buy Bitcoin whether we are lump suming or dcaing.
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August 13, 2024, 05:24:40 PM
Stop referring to bitcoin as cryptocurrency so that newbies or new investors in bitcoin will not see cryptocurrency as bitcoin.
I think you may have misunderstood me, I am in no way referring to Bitcoin as cryptocurrency, I used the term Cryptocurrency Market, that's different from refering to Bitcoin as Cryptocurrency. My intention is not to sound misleading but to state a point. I'm not a fan of shitcoins, yes I've been involved in shitcoin investments during my early days in the digital market, but my experience made me frown completely at anything that concerns shitcoins as I only support Bitcoin investment.

When i said cryptocurrency, I'm referring to the market in general and not the asset, and I apologize for whatever misconception that may have caused.

You did well for accepting your mistake and also for your apology, is not that using the word cryptocurrency is bad but as long as this thread is concerned using the word cryptocurrency instead of using Bitcoin can be very problematic and misleading expecially to new member that may want to venture into Bitcoin investment.
There are other thread in this forum where you can comfortably talk about cryptocurrency not here because what we are discussing here is Bitcoin investment, cryptocurrency is a just a general word where other coin such as shitcoins is included so newbies hearing about cryptocurrency might think is shitcoins which is never reliable to invest on and they might end up investing in it and regret at last, so been specific about the coin you are talking about is very important if it is Bitcoin then it is Bitcoin if it is shitcoins then it is shitcoins.
Also when even you are quoting some one try and cheek if you quoted rightly because looking to your quote you did not do it in a proper way.

Of course everyone has made mistakes but forget those times and rebuild your portfolio with bitcoin.

Build your confidence to accumulate with your level of ability.

Buying today is the best step to increase your bitcoin holdings in your portfolio and that was my first step in building a portfolio with Bitcoin.

Make regular purchases and focus on your targets. Accumulating weekly would be easier and I did that.
Also keep learning to increase your knowledge about Bitcoin.
Yeah I decided to be consistent in my Bitcoin accumulation journey and that is what I have been doing, I'm buying Bitcoin using the DCA strategy and I'm very much comfortable with it, I know using the DCA strategy I need to hold for a very long time in other to have enough Bitcoin.
This long holding and consistent accumulation has discouraged a lot of people who wanted to go into Bitcoin investment especially those who can't buy with huge amount at a time.
There's a saying that says patience and consistency are the real future wealth, those who waited for 10 years till date didn't lose anything, there patience and consistency paid off and for me my consistency and patience will also pay off, Bitcoin is one of the best investment and I'm taking it seriously and I believe I will succeed because I'm dedicated to it.
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August 13, 2024, 04:53:17 PM
Perhaps the only way to learn is to ask questions, I would prefer you ask questions where seems confusing to you than for you to create some level of assumptions that seems very lame and unrealistic. looking at the context of the thread there are few other threads where you can learn basic things about bitcoin investment and smarter ways to buy and hold for a longer term if you indicate interest in them or such thread I will be glad to refer you to some of JayJuanGee's thread which he discussed the basics on each entry that you could make. this threads are even suggested outside the forum which shows the level of original and how true it is, now I would love you to ask or request for links if you're interested but if not you can stick with this thread and ask questions instead of confusing others with your own perspectives.
Okay, thank you in advance.
In this thread I read a lot about DCA, and after I found out that this strategy I think everyone can use it because it doesn't seem to need a lot of money to do it, you just have to be consistent in doing it.
But is DCA the best strategy to use?
Apparently, Dollar Cost Averaging is the best strategy for me and you to invest in bitcoin, there are solid reason why DCA is currently the best for you. there is no way buying the dips would be the best for you at this point because you don't know for sure when there will be dips although at this moment we are still in the dips but why I say it's not best for you now is because you have to wait for some time which is not certain to buy but DCA gives you the opportunity to buy instant and not wait for any reason. Futhermore, buying the dips strategy always gives you a discount but the inconvenience in buying the dips matters too DCA gives you around opportunity which includes time to settle all other necessary things outside investment.

There are more reason I would prefer or reference you to DCA strategy but I would say less because you will find out the rest here as time goes on if you listen carefully to JayJuanGee's clarifications.
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August 13, 2024, 04:38:23 PM
Perhaps the only way to learn is to ask questions, I would prefer you ask questions where seems confusing to you than for you to create some level of assumptions that seems very lame and unrealistic. looking at the context of the thread there are few other threads where you can learn basic things about bitcoin investment and smarter ways to buy and hold for a longer term if you indicate interest in them or such thread I will be glad to refer you to some of JayJuanGee's thread which he discussed the basics on each entry that you could make. this threads are even suggested outside the forum which shows the level of original and how true it is, now I would love you to ask or request for links if you're interested but if not you can stick with this thread and ask questions instead of confusing others with your own perspectives.
Okay, thank you in advance.
In this thread I read a lot about DCA, and after I found out that this strategy I think everyone can use it because it doesn't seem to need a lot of money to do it, you just have to be consistent in doing it.
But is DCA the best strategy to use?
I don't know the thought of other investors here but for me the DCA strategy is the best because if you are custom using the DCA strategy you are at advantage because there are times when you can still use the lump sum strategy when you an unexpected money comes your way you can also accumulate when there is dip this one's may come ones a while but with the DCA strategy you can still accumulate more Bitcoin inrespective of the price level either weekly or monthly as long as your discretionary income is intact with a long term motive from 4-10 and above because with DCA strategy you are always steady in the BTC market.
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August 13, 2024, 04:19:10 PM
Stop referring to bitcoin as cryptocurrency so that newbies or new investors in bitcoin will not see cryptocurrency as bitcoin.
I think you may have misunderstood me, I am in no way referring to Bitcoin as cryptocurrency, I used the term Cryptocurrency Market, that's different from refering to Bitcoin as Cryptocurrency. My intention is not to sound misleading but to state a point. I'm not a fan of shitcoins, yes I've been involved in shitcoin investments during my early days in the digital market, but my experience made me frown completely at anything that concerns shitcoins as I only support Bitcoin investment.

When i said cryptocurrency, I'm referring to the market in general and not the asset, and I apologize for whatever misconception that may have caused.

You did well for accepting your mistake and also for your apology, is not that using the word cryptocurrency is bad but as long as this thread is concerned using the word cryptocurrency instead of using Bitcoin can be very problematic and misleading expecially to new member that may want to venture into Bitcoin investment.
There are other thread in this forum where you can comfortably talk about cryptocurrency not here because what we are discussing here is Bitcoin investment, cryptocurrency is a just a general word where other coin such as shitcoins is included so newbies hearing about cryptocurrency might think is shitcoins which is never reliable to invest on and they might end up investing in it and regret at last, so been specific about the coin you are talking about is very important if it is Bitcoin then it is Bitcoin if it is shitcoins then it is shitcoins.
Also when even you are quoting some one try and cheek if you quoted rightly because looking to your quote you did not do it in a proper way.

Of course everyone has made mistakes but forget those times and rebuild your portfolio with bitcoin.

Build your confidence to accumulate with your level of ability.

Buying today is the best step to increase your bitcoin holdings in your portfolio and that was my first step in building a portfolio with Bitcoin.

Make regular purchases and focus on your targets. Accumulating weekly would be easier and I did that.
Also keep learning to increase your knowledge about Bitcoin.
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August 13, 2024, 03:59:32 PM
Stop referring to bitcoin as cryptocurrency so that newbies or new investors in bitcoin will not see cryptocurrency as bitcoin.
I think you may have misunderstood me, I am in no way referring to Bitcoin as cryptocurrency, I used the term Cryptocurrency Market, that's different from refering to Bitcoin as Cryptocurrency. My intention is not to sound misleading but to state a point. I'm not a fan of shitcoins, yes I've been involved in shitcoin investments during my early days in the digital market, but my experience made me frown completely at anything that concerns shitcoins as I only support Bitcoin investment.

When i said cryptocurrency, I'm referring to the market in general and not the asset, and I apologize for whatever misconception that may have caused.

You did well for accepting your mistake and also for your apology, is not that using the word cryptocurrency is bad but as long as this thread is concerned using the word cryptocurrency instead of using Bitcoin can be very problematic and misleading expecially to new member that may want to venture into Bitcoin investment.
There are other thread in this forum where you can comfortably talk about cryptocurrency not here because what we are discussing here is Bitcoin investment, how one can accumulate more Bitcoin and hold for long either using DCA strategy to accumulate or other strategies such as the lump sum and also buying at the dip strategy, cryptocurrency is a just a general word where other coin such as shitcoins is included so newbies hearing about cryptocurrency might think is shitcoins which is never reliable to invest on and they might end up investing in it and regret at last, so been specific about the coin you are talking about is very important if it is Bitcoin then it is Bitcoin if it is shitcoins then it is shitcoins.
Also when even you are quoting some one try and cheek if you quoted rightly because looking to your quote you did not do it in a proper way.
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August 13, 2024, 10:00:14 AM
The extent at which most people talk about always buying at dip can be somehow discouraging to most people in terms of changing there focus from regular accumulation to buy only at dip because they always sounds very convincing as if buying at dip is what guarantee there increment of there investment portfolio, sometimes I feel that most of those who always talk about buying only the dip has little understanding about investment if not they would have only seen that dip is just a temporary opportunity brought through the Bitcoin price drops, so at that moment those who have extra funds will increase there investment or buy at once and move on there DCA instead of just depending on the dip.
It is important to buy the dip if you want to be profitable. Just because you’re using DCA strategy doesn’t mean you should ignore basics of trading and buy bitcoin at ATH. Because if you buy bitcoin at the top, you will be losing money when the market corrects itself. For example you buy bitcoin at 70k, how long do you think you can hodl the bitcoins before the price breaks 70k zone? DCA strategy is good for newbies who are just starting out but for those who have the knowledge of trading, they apply DCA in a more efficient manner.
Fuck the basic knowledge of trading, it is not needed for people who are into long term hold, and that's what this thread represent. What is the essence of acquiring a knowledge that you won't be making use of. There are many threads in this forum where such things are being discussed, if you in interested in trading or giving advice to people who cares about it, you should go to such threads. I also want to make it clear to you that there is no method of bitcoin accumulation strategy that's not profitable on the long term hold, that's why investors are encouraged to hold bitcoin for a long term.

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Because if you buy bitcoin at the top, you will be losing money when the market corrects itself. For example you buy bitcoin at 70k, how long do you think you can hodl the bitcoins before the price breaks 70k zone?
Your trading mentality is what you are using to make your judgement here and it is drawing you backward. How about you look at it in a long term perspective, which is what this thread represent. When the market correct itself does it remain there forever? The market always goes back up. Bitcoin investment involves patience. Hope you remembered the last ATH that was set before which was around $69k, people bought it back then and held patiently till we saw the new ATH which was recorded earlier this year and they made profit. You never lose in bitcoin investment unless you decided to panic sell when there is a market correction.

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DCA strategy is good for newbies who are just starting out but for those who have the knowledge of trading, they apply DCA in a more efficient manner.
You are ignorant about many things, how can you say this? I can't believe you have been following this thread for long and you are sounding like someone who just started posting here newly. Many times this issue has been discussed here that DCA is suitable for every investors, be it new or old investors, rich and poor investors inclusive.
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August 13, 2024, 09:53:06 AM
Stop referring to bitcoin as cryptocurrency so that newbies or new investors in bitcoin will not see cryptocurrency as bitcoin.
I think you may have misunderstood me, I am in no way referring to Bitcoin as cryptocurrency, I used the term Cryptocurrency Market, that's different from refering to Bitcoin as Cryptocurrency. My intention is not to sound misleading but to state a point. I'm not a fan of shitcoins, yes I've been involved in shitcoin investments during my early days in the digital market, but my experience made me frown completely at anything that concerns shitcoins as I only support Bitcoin investment.

When i said cryptocurrency, I'm referring to the market in general and not the asset, and I apologize for whatever misconception that may have caused.
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August 13, 2024, 09:42:38 AM

Investment is one economic way of sustainably developing our funds and surely we can't do that successfully in a short term duration. For short term period bitcoin investment there's the tendency that the investor may be  less profitable or not profitable at all within the short duration, that's what makes a long term duration the best investment plan for bitcoin because you can always adjust your time further based on the market performance if price takes a downside direction and sits there for some period of time the investor doesn't grow anxiety since from the initial the plan was for a long duration.

Investing of course DCA method is best to invest in Bitcoin and not anywhere else. Because if you invest anywhere other than Bitcoin then your entire money will be at risk. So you should also have a plan how to make your investment long-term, and planning is most important to save long-term investment.  

DCA method is the easiest method for any investor to multiply his money here. If the person wants he can deposit his money continuously weekly or monthly like when I enter this thread I immediately start doing Bitcoin DCA method after few days. I'm almost two years past investment age and the most self-sufficient I've been since 2023.


Of course, the best time to invest is during the dip.
There's no specific time or period to invest in bitcoin. If anyone is interested in investing in bitcoin, and if that person has already kept the funds somewhere to start his bitcoin investment, the person can start right away to accumulate bitcoin with the DCA strategy. Trying to invest in bitcoin only during the dips is not a good strategy to adopt; it will delay your accumulation process, and you might miss out on holding bitcoin if the bitcoin price fails to dip to the price you want to buy. For the sake of those who are new to bitcoin or who are just starting their bitcoin investment, your comment is misleading because they will believe the best time to invest in bitcoin is during the dip.
Experienced and knowledgeable people will never wait for dip season to invest. Because they will buy regularly instead of waiting for dip season and adopt DCA method to increase their investment. Moreover, if an investor uses the dollar cost averaging method in his investments, he may not have to wait for a bearish market because he will spend the same amount of money on a weekly or monthly basis to buy Bitcoins. If the market goes up, he has a little disadvantage because he can buy less bitcoins at that price, and if the market goes down, he has the advantage that he can buy a little more bitcoins at that price. However, even if the market is going up or down, the average cost of his investment will remain the same.

Many have commented that the dip is the best time to invest in Bitcoin, such comments are simply foolish. There is no fixed time limit for Bitcoin investment. I think you have enough funds to invest you invest and try to increase it gradually take steps to hold even longer as per your ability.

That's exactly what it is, dip season does not occur all the time, although we have bear market which implies to the downtrend of the said investment but as a matter of fact some times this occurrence dont actual happen they way individual investors expect it to be, an experienced investor that understands that waiting for the price may deviate his or her attention or Interest from the investment will want to keep accumulating to build a bulky portfolio irrespective of the price at all time because he already know that price fluntuation might continue favouring a particular market season, lets say the market continue to pump an experienced investor understand that he is expected to buy and hold hence their is assurance that Bitcoin will reach 100k and more one day and the current price has not even reach those expected price so a knowledgeable person will continue to use whatever method he want to keep upgrading his portfolio knowing fully well that irrespective of the current price, the future is certainly assured with bitcoin.

It is funny when people say that dip season is the actual the period  meant for investors to invest in Bitcoin, if thats the truth, there would have not been large hodlers, bitcoin investment is an opportunity and with what I know opportunity does not have actual set price before an invest will embrace it, although the dip is a good opportunity to buy bitcoin at a lesser amount but that doesnt mean that it is the only period thats expected for investors to buy, every investor should understand that time waits for nobody, the more you wait, needs may arise and the funds meant for the investment might be used in other things, what makye us good investors is our ability to keep buying the little we can overtime, excuse and procrastination are dream killers, Bitcoin can be bought in fractions why waiting for the dip, lets keep off from such mindsets to enable us to continue doing the needful before regret comes.
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Stop referring to bitcoin as cryptocurrency so that newbies or new investors in bitcoin will not see cryptocurrency as bitcoin. When you are talking about bitcoin investment, you need to be specific so that newbies or new investors in bitcoin will not be misled into investing in altcoins, thinking they are investing in bitcoin. There are so many threads in this forum that you can easily talk about cryptocurrency or altcoins, but as far as this thread is concerned, you should always refer to bitcoin as bitcoin so that we will not be distracted. We are all in this thread to share our ideas and experience in the bitcoin accumulation process and also learn from those who are more knowledgeable than us when it comes to bitcoin investment.

It sounds discouraging always seeing most people referring to Bitcoin as a cryptocurrency, actually it bit my imagination to see that most people have known Bitcoin for sometime but still could not be able to differentiate between cryptocurrency and Bitcoin, funny enough is very common for so many people outside the forum because is more than ones I have seen someone who invested on altcoins and was saying that they have invested on Bitcoin, so perhaps whenever I see those kind of talk I always make sure to show or teach them the difference between Bitcoin and cryptocurrency so that they will stop seeing Bitcoin to be on that category.
And they will still be proofing themselves right by using cryptocurrency investment as BTC investment which you can only find such thing from newbies. Well like those that understand the investment very well in the industry, will know that there is different between BTC investment and cryptocurrency investment, and if you want to make your choice to invest, ensure you make BTC investment your choice, so that you will accumulate profits like BTC investors, and if you want to discuss anything related to BTC, this is the right trend and you will achieve something nice from bitcoiners.

I guess, many have learned their lesson from this trend and some of the newbies are still going to learn lesson, so that they can understand it very well to know that BTC still remain the king among other cryptocurrencies in the industry.
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August 13, 2024, 08:59:48 AM
Perhaps the only way to learn is to ask questions, I would prefer you ask questions where seems confusing to you than for you to create some level of assumptions that seems very lame and unrealistic. looking at the context of the thread there are few other threads where you can learn basic things about bitcoin investment and smarter ways to buy and hold for a longer term if you indicate interest in them or such thread I will be glad to refer you to some of JayJuanGee's thread which he discussed the basics on each entry that you could make. this threads are even suggested outside the forum which shows the level of original and how true it is, now I would love you to ask or request for links if you're interested but if not you can stick with this thread and ask questions instead of confusing others with your own perspectives.
Okay, thank you in advance.
In this thread I read a lot about DCA, and after I found out that this strategy I think everyone can use it because it doesn't seem to need a lot of money to do it, you just have to be consistent in doing it.
But is DCA the best strategy to use?
It depends on the size of your bitcoin portfolio that will determine the strategy an investor will use to accumulate bitcoin.

For new investors who just want to start accumulating bitcoin or investors who have little bitcoin in the or portfolio DCA method is the best for these set of investors because DCA method will help new investors to keep on buying bitcoin with an amount from their discretionary income every week or month constantly and continously for 4-10 years and above so that your bitcoin investment will be growing slow and steady without it affecting your financial responsibilities.

The DCA method makes it easy for you to invest and hodli for a long time without touching your bitcoin, because this method will discipline you and help you manage your discretionary income properly because for you to be able to hodli your bitcoin investment for long, you will need to set up an emergency funds from your discretionary income for 3-6 months to be a back up for your bitcoin investment along side as you are growing your bitcoin investment. A reserve funds will also be set up from your discretionary income to be a back up to your emergency funds.

However, if a new investor during is ongoing DCA buying gets and unexpected funds that he can do without, he can use that money to lump sum immediately to increase his bitcoin size faster. Waiting for the dip is for bitcoin investors who their bitcoin portfolio have reached a certain level, and for that reason even if they wait for the dip it will be of advantage to them because they will buy a good fraction of bitcoin at a low price to add to their bitcoin portfolio for a significant increase.

A new investor does not need to wait buy just to keep on buying overtime to cover up the wasted time that he was unable to invest in bitcoin. In addition, DCA helps you to buy bitcoin at different price level giving you the opportunity to buy bitcoin at the bottom line of the dip which no one can know.
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August 13, 2024, 08:22:29 AM
Perhaps the only way to learn is to ask questions, I would prefer you ask questions where seems confusing to you than for you to create some level of assumptions that seems very lame and unrealistic. looking at the context of the thread there are few other threads where you can learn basic things about bitcoin investment and smarter ways to buy and hold for a longer term if you indicate interest in them or such thread I will be glad to refer you to some of JayJuanGee's thread which he discussed the basics on each entry that you could make. this threads are even suggested outside the forum which shows the level of original and how true it is, now I would love you to ask or request for links if you're interested but if not you can stick with this thread and ask questions instead of confusing others with your own perspectives.
Okay, thank you in advance.
In this thread I read a lot about DCA, and after I found out that this strategy I think everyone can use it because it doesn't seem to need a lot of money to do it, you just have to be consistent in doing it.
But is DCA the best strategy to use?

This question will not have a definite answer simply because each individual has their preference when it comes to accumulating more bitcoin. The one that work for you might appear best to you. To put it straight, DCA is a popular strategy that mostly everyone is familiar with for accumulating bitcoin or other cryptos. Without doubt, it's actually a solid strategy but whether it is the best depend on your goals.  So, the best strategy is the one that aligns with your goals and that's why jumping into bitcoin or cryptocurrency at whole without personal research is not advisable. You ought to analyze different methods to figure out the one that best suit your goals and stick to it.


If I get you correct you are saying that it is advisable for someone to first make a research and figure out a strategy that best suit them, well making a research and finding a strategy is not a bad idea but it's not necessary I mean it's not a criteria that one ought to meet before they start investing in Bitcoin perhaps the basic knowledge is what is/are needed and then with time they can start figuring out those stuffs you are talking about and you can't possibly tell me for sure that those people that are doing well in Bitcoin investment first did research and figure out the best strategy that suit them  because I know one can't know everything before starting any investment but rather they acquire some knowledge and insights along the line and it's not just about doing research and figuring out strategy rather what matters is how well one is going about those..., Because it will be a waste of time and energy if one doesn't utilize those strategy and what they got out of their research.
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August 13, 2024, 07:27:35 AM
The extent at which most people talk about always buying at dip can be somehow discouraging to most people in terms of changing there focus from regular accumulation to buy only at dip because they always sounds very convincing as if buying at dip is what guarantee there increment of there investment portfolio, sometimes I feel that most of those who always talk about buying only the dip has little understanding about investment if not they would have only seen that dip is just a temporary opportunity brought through the Bitcoin price drops, so at that moment those who have extra funds will increase there investment or buy at once and move on there DCA instead of just depending on the dip.
It is important to buy the dip if you want to be profitable.
As far as bitcoin investment is concerned, your comment is problematic and misleading. It will influence newbies or new investors in bitcoin to time the market before they can buy bitcoin because they believe that is the only way one can be successful in bitcoin investment. Bitcoin was developed to give profit in the long run, so even though you buy the top of bitcoin and hold it for a long time it will still be profitable. For instance, those investors who bought bitcoin at $69k in the last bull run witnessed how bitcoin set another ATH this year.
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Just because you’re using DCA strategy doesn’t mean you should ignore basics of trading and buy bitcoin at ATH.
Since everyone in this thread is accumulating bitcoin for long-term profit, I think it will be necessary if he ignores the basics of trading because it will not help him hold his bitcoin for a long time.
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DCA strategy is good for newbies who are just starting out but for those who have the knowledge of trading, they apply DCA in a more efficient manner.
Yes, I agree that the DCA strategy is good for newbies; it allows them to start their bitcoin investment without waiting for any dip to happen, which is a good step in starting a bitcoin investment. Since traders are just concerned about making short-term profits in bitcoin, they will find it difficult to use the DCA strategy and accumulate bitcoin because it's not suitable for them to use.
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August 13, 2024, 07:11:25 AM
Perhaps the only way to learn is to ask questions, I would prefer you ask questions where seems confusing to you than for you to create some level of assumptions that seems very lame and unrealistic. looking at the context of the thread there are few other threads where you can learn basic things about bitcoin investment and smarter ways to buy and hold for a longer term if you indicate interest in them or such thread I will be glad to refer you to some of JayJuanGee's thread which he discussed the basics on each entry that you could make. this threads are even suggested outside the forum which shows the level of original and how true it is, now I would love you to ask or request for links if you're interested but if not you can stick with this thread and ask questions instead of confusing others with your own perspectives.
Okay, thank you in advance.
In this thread I read a lot about DCA, and after I found out that this strategy I think everyone can use it because it doesn't seem to need a lot of money to do it, you just have to be consistent in doing it.
But is DCA the best strategy to use?

This question will not have a definite answer simply because each individual has their preference when it comes to accumulating more bitcoin. The one that work for you might appear best to you. To put it straight, DCA is a popular strategy that mostly everyone is familiar with for accumulating bitcoin or other cryptos. Without doubt, it's actually a solid strategy but whether it is the best depend on your goals.  So, the best strategy is the one that aligns with your goals and that's why jumping into bitcoin or cryptocurrency at whole without personal research is not advisable. You ought to analyze different methods to figure out the one that best suit your goals and stick to it.
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August 13, 2024, 06:46:05 AM
Buying and investing in Bitcoin is infact the best way to venture into the Cryptocurrency market
Stop referring to bitcoin as cryptocurrency so that newbies or new investors in bitcoin will not see cryptocurrency as bitcoin. When you are talking about bitcoin investment, you need to be specific so that newbies or new investors in bitcoin will not be misled into investing in altcoins, thinking they are investing in bitcoin. There are so many threads in this forum that you can easily talk about cryptocurrency or altcoins, but as far as this thread is concerned, you should always refer to bitcoin as bitcoin so that we will not be distracted. We are all in this thread to share our ideas and experience in the bitcoin accumulation process and also learn from those who are more knowledgeable than us when it comes to bitcoin investment.

It sounds discouraging always seeing most people referring to Bitcoin as a cryptocurrency, actually it bit my imagination to see that most people have known Bitcoin for sometime but still could not be able to differentiate between cryptocurrency and Bitcoin, funny enough is very common for so many people outside the forum because is more than ones I have seen someone who invested on altcoins and was saying that they have invested on Bitcoin, so perhaps whenever I see those kind of talk I always make sure to show or teach them the difference between Bitcoin and cryptocurrency so that they will stop seeing Bitcoin to be on that category.
I actually understand very well what you are trying to say here, but I just want to clarify something about what you said, first and foremost, that person you said that invested in alt and when asked, he said he invested in Bitcoin, bro to be sincere here, that person is a complete novice, not even a newbie, because I believe that a newbie can clearly differentiate between Bitcoin and the rest.

Secondly, though most of these guys using the term cryptocurrency when referring to Bitcoin is not proper, because they are actually generalizing it, but I disagree on the part that you said that Bitcoin is not cryptocurrency, no bro, Bitcoin is also a crypto, just that you can't compare it to others, because it gives you more security and assurance due to it rich history of always rallying back any time their is a dip in it price.
Ok let's look at it this way, if you can use your Google to search types of cryptocurrency,  Bitcoin will be the first that will be mentioned, so I don't think it's proper to say that Bitcoin is not crypto, what should be kicked against is when it's being generalized as if it's the same with alt and shit coin when it's not, that's just my opinion though.
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I have some questions.

Why is Bitcoin going through mini-crashes, then they're followed by mini-surges? Who's selling large amounts of coins below $60,000, and who buys them back/places price back over $60,000?

Will the market actually give everyone another opportunity to see Bitcoin go below its 200-Weekly SMA again? The last time proved to be a very good buying opportunity.
I had been proposing bets that the spot price would not go below 20% above the 200WMA until after 2025, yet surely we have been getting pretty close to those numbers in recent times.  Even though I am willing to bet, I know that I could end up being wrong, so I would not be betting very much or even beyond 50/50 odds.. .. but yeah, when folks are proclaiming super low BTC price dips, they tend to back off of their assertions when you ask them to bet on their prognostication of such seemingly extreme dip numbers.

We know that there is an idea of cycles and what kind of a market we are in, too, but even the ideas of cycles could disappear, and we might not be in a bull market, even though it seems that we are, potentially until 2025-ish.. .
That's especially true currently now that the Bitcoin Spot ETF is open and available for institutions to enter/exit to and from Bitcoin positions. It may have changed the "cycles". Because if we were to base the current point of the cycle today from the last cycle, today would be a time during 2020 which were not testing the previous all time high.

Even though I am suggesting and maybe even proclaiming that cycles could disappear, I doubt that we are anywhere even close to having actual facts to support the actual disappearance of cycles, and likely we are not even going to know or realize that the cycles were no longer persuasive until much after such time that BTC's price performance no longer supports cycle theory... so in that regard, I think that it is way better to continue to presume that cycles are ongoing rather than prematurely proclaiming they had already disappeared based on current evidence (facts) in front of us... including that the mere fact that we reached an ATH prior to the halvening rather than after the halvening seems to amount to lame ass evidence to supposedly support the disappearance of the cycles.

In other words, we surely have BTC price moves that are up and they are down and the fractals seems to be within reasonable parameters to overlay the previous fractals, even if the magnitude of some of the price moves might be lesser or greater than they had been within earlier fractals.

Maybe no matter what, whether we get 4 year patterns, we still likely should be able to presume that the general pressures on BTC prices is going to continue in the upwards direction, even if we might have extended periods of suppression or maybe even price rises that fail to correct back down within what we had expected to be our cyclical time frame.

Another combating theory concerns power law theory versus stock to flow, and surely, I still like to assert that stock to flow is a great way of looking at bitcoin price performance, even if we might not be able to identify with any precision the multiples and/or the magnitudes of the price cycles, there are folks that argue that stock to flow just falls within a powerlaw curve and merely complicates the powerlaw dynamics by adding more largely irrelevant variables to the equation (suggesting that the 4-year cycle is mostly irrelevant).. In the end, I personally give few shits regarding whether powerlaw might be more true than stock to flow, I still consider the 4-year cycles to remain valuable in terms of looking at the BTC price moves, even if there remains a bit of fictional inabilities to really tie such 4-year cycles to actual real world BTC price dynamics..

Here are a couple of recent podcast interviews in which Giovanni Santostasi argues that power law supersedes and is more important and relevant than his claims of stock to flow's inferior adaptation of power law.

Simply Bitcoin - 
https://overcast.fm/+AA1uZKBe3D8

Crypto Voices
https://overcast.fm/+AANK1lG6bqA


I believe that, like you, market cycles merely change because of changes in market factors themselves - Like the entry of the Bitcoin spot ETF, which already may have changed Bitcoin compared from past cycles. But you're also right, more time and data is needed to see if that indeed is truly happening.

Furthermore, it seems pretty short-sighted to be selling at these prices or the sub $60ks that you mentioned, yet we know that prices move because people have differing opinions about fair market prices, and some people end up being wrong in their assessment, views and actions, yet in most cases, we don't know who was wrong until later down the road... all of us hope that we are on the correct side, especially if we have put money on our views, and failing to buy bitcoin might well also be one of those where folks have put money (even if they think that they haven't.. when the price goes up, those kinds of dollar worshipers frequently wished that they had some BTC, so they could sell it.. for higher than they paid for it...  hahahahaha).

Surely all of us who are buying or holding onto our BTC hope that we are on the correct side of matters, yet there are no guarantees, even though historically the buyers and holders have been disproportionately more correct than those who had failed/refused to take a sufficient/adequate bitcoin position.  Bitcoin's investment thesis does not seem any weaker, and there seem to be a lot of ways that its investment thesis is way stronger than it had been historically, even if the upside potential (in terms of percentage moves) is not as great as it had been in earlier times.
That's true, but Bitcoin may still have more upside than most investments you could find in legacy markets. Cool

I am not even suggesting that there is any better place to put your money apart from bitcoin, even though I also would argue that anyone is going to be foolish if they are not attempting to maintain some kind of balance in regards to having assets in cash and/or cash related traditional investments in order to attempt to account for needs to be able to live in the real world with real world expenses that are likely mostly reflected in dollars and having a decent amount of practicality to have cashflows and/or capital that is held in dollars and/or dollar-related assets - even when we know that the dollar is being debased anywhere between 3% and 20% per year depending on how such debasement is measured.


That's with the presumption that, of course, it's already considered when we talk about Bitcoin as an investment.
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August 13, 2024, 04:26:30 AM
Buying and investing in Bitcoin is infact the best way to venture into the Cryptocurrency market
Stop referring to bitcoin as cryptocurrency so that newbies or new investors in bitcoin will not see cryptocurrency as bitcoin. When you are talking about bitcoin investment, you need to be specific so that newbies or new investors in bitcoin will not be misled into investing in altcoins, thinking they are investing in bitcoin. There are so many threads in this forum that you can easily talk about cryptocurrency or altcoins, but as far as this thread is concerned, you should always refer to bitcoin as bitcoin so that we will not be distracted. We are all in this thread to share our ideas and experience in the bitcoin accumulation process and also learn from those who are more knowledgeable than us when it comes to bitcoin investment.

It sounds discouraging always seeing most people referring to Bitcoin as a cryptocurrency, actually it bit my imagination to see that most people have known Bitcoin for sometime but still could not be able to differentiate between cryptocurrency and Bitcoin, funny enough is very common for so many people outside the forum because is more than ones I have seen someone who invested on altcoins and was saying that they have invested on Bitcoin, so perhaps whenever I see those kind of talk I always make sure to show or teach them the difference between Bitcoin and cryptocurrency so that they will stop seeing Bitcoin to be on that category.
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