Topic: Can Chat GTP destroy poker on-line gambling??? - page 10. (Read 5048 times)

I also think that things should be viewed this way. Any invention can either be helpful or harmful, depending on how it's used.


Is it practically possible to follow your advice? To me it sounds like saying "Leave roads to horses!", when automobile was invented. I mean, you could say that, but nobody would listen, right. You can't stop progress.

Also, I would not attach such importance to "human intuition" and "face recognition". Human intuition never helps you in poker. And AI can be pretty good in face recognition, but it doesn't matter because it's not the main factor in winning a poker game, if a factor at all. Movie makers created this myth about face reading of your opponent because films look more interesting with that. But in reality it doesn't work unless you are playing against a 7-year-old.

Are you suggesting that after taking a few free classes, you should be a master? There's a ton of information on the internet, but not all of it is high quality, is it? Well, what about the gripe about lacking professional practice platforms? Have you ever tried looking, bro? There are a ton of forums, chat rooms, and other online communities where people play poker every day if you sift through the vast expanse of the internet. Though perhaps not in the most conspicuous locations, they exist

You are correct; AI is elevating the stakes and altering the game. It's not just AI, though. What will happen to us if we start blaming robots and technology for every problem we encounter? It's not enough to simply blame technology; you need to go farther

If something like this starts and develops, I think it wouldn't make sense for one to continue studying poker, because I've taken several free courses, but I don't feel like I know much, I know that the world masters have a very good vision of the game. wide, and I feel that I am just beginning, also there are no platforms where you can practice Poker with normal people , or who are of a High level because that is where you really learn, in theory they can say many things , but when I I start to see that there are so many people who know each technique very well, it is Difficult, what I see is that I have to leave everything in the hands of luck because the strategies are Many, and if an AI that saves more Players is impossible that something can be Done.

How can you say that AI cannot collect data when they fed with data and strategy?  They have the capability to grow from the data given to them.  If an AI system does not collect data then how can it react to certain situations and patterns? I think they are created to collect, process, and apply the data depending on the situation they are in.  AI mimic the capability of human called learning. With the given data presented, the collect it absorbe and evolve from it.  It is possible that AI can be programmed to have a selective data acquisition but AI won't function well if they can't collect abd absorb any data given to them

It's possible that ChatGPT could have an interesting impact for online poker, but the thing is it needs access to all the player hand histories in order to do this sort of analysis. I know some poker sites allow this sort of hand sharing, but most only offer it in a very limited way and will not allow you to mine information on other players, outside of any games that you've shared with them. The poker house could potentially make determinations from using this privately on their internal data set, but it's more likely to figure out things like cheaters or people working in groups. If it was allowed to view all historical poker hands then it could make some pretty powerful determinations based on how people tend to make the same mistakes again and again, unless they actively work to fix them.

The poker table isnt a place for ChatGPT or any AI. Poker isn't just about the cards; it's about the people, their emotions, their bluffing tactics, and the energy they bring to the table. ChatGPT might have a lot of data and power, but it doesn’t have data on face recognition and emotions analysis. The beauty of poker lies in its unpredictability, in human intuition and gut feelings. Injecting AI into this game would be nothing short of sacrilege. It's infuriating that some people even consider using such advanced tech in a traditional, human-centric game. Leave the cards to the humans and the algorithms to the machines

The AI systems do not actually collect the data, they are the opposite: consumer of significant data volumes, depending on the difficulty of the task, e.g. playing chess may require a 10^10 sample of games, driving a car could be even more... It is a different task to get the data, train the systems, get results, validate. These different stages do not use the same systems always.

ChatGPT has the power to destroy and also to make Anything stronger, see ChatGPT as an advance level of technology. Many people has been against artificial intelligence technology in general, many people has seen it as a system that would take peoples Job

Although I don't think poker game needs ChatGPT service, the system of how the poker game works is fair enough to me, so any interference like ChatGPT or artificial intelligence technology can really affect the balance of things.

Why do people think that AI could take over and we are not going to do anything with it, that's the weird part. Like for example lets say that there is a pokerAI that ends up telling you the odds and the possibilities and all that, and you can bet accordingly, some people already did this on their mind but lets assume that AI made a lot more people able to do it better, and also AI manages to calculate how many times someone bluffed and how, and check their betting pattern and tell you the better odds, which some people also do on their mind as well.

When you combine these two together, that's a good AI right? Well how about we all start using it? Then suddenly it's not the issue everyone makes it out to be at all.

Well, in sporting events things can flow in various ways, whenever it is about football, for example, we base ourselves on history, for example Brazil, is a team that has always stood out from the beginning of all this, the events World-class is a team that has reached the finals, which has many world cups, aside from the fact that this tradition has been maintained by having the best players in the world, so this information, and the most up-to-date information, can be stored by an AI, and get the probabilities of matches, how they won and how they can do if certain teams are found.

We as humans keep those events in our minds because we like it, but there are details that escape us, so an AI is closer to making a good forecast of a sporting event with more accuracy because it is kept up-to-date and also has the records and numbers. Therefore, you can apply the theory of games, probabilities, statistics and you will not be mistaken, apart from filtering by team and by how each player is doing, that makes you have a much more specific detail than what an expert appraiser can give, So I would say that in sports betting an AI can beat us, because it has and manages all that information.

So for me it is easier that an AI is already giving predictions but I could not say the accuracy, now that an AI can give precise information about a particular casino game and make us win, I think that is a bit far, because I think that getting to that point is quite complicated, because an AI still does not have that capacity, the AI is still being born, it could be that the robots are training them to see how they perform in a casino and things when they are in beta mode They are quite experimental, because a single test can make a player spend a lot of money, for me, for an AI to be perfected, it takes a lot of time.

I think that a lot of noise and discussions about what AI will bring to the game of poker is primarily due to the fact that in general the topic of the development and use of AI in people's lives and AI interference in people's traditional lives is specially promoted in the media by certain companies working in the field AI.  
These are quite powerful, influential and very rich companies, and of course they are interested in AI being constantly remembered by people everywhere and, accordingly, the financial valuation of the shares of such companies would increase many times over.  Therefore, such legends about all-strong AI have been created.  Such media legends are heavily hammered into the heads of peolle who will generally soon consider AI almost equal to God.  And AI is credited with superpowers in solving many problems that have not yet been solved by mankind.  So the question of AI poker is also surrounded by the secret of mystification and reverence for the all-powerful AI.  And all this is just advertising fantasies from a powerful clan of politicians and IT businessmen.  
But people continue to like this idea of ​​​​AI as something magical and fantastic from the bright future of mankind.

That's a good observation, casino programs are well protected and developers really making sure that they are providing that kind of security for their clients, casino owners are paying for it and they wanted to make sure that there's no hack that will suck their bankroll, else, if ever that AI may break that system casino will immediately prevent that to continue.

Just my own interpretation in case that in the future AI may really break that milestone and make that good development.

I very much agree with you, and speaking of blackjack, i have always been of the opinion that Ai have not the capability on intelligence to destroy any online gambling game whether it be blackjack or any other game, we should understand that this game are dynamic in from the way they were programmed, this is why for we that are the players, there is no straight and sure strategy to constantly and consistently win while playing this games, so it is very possible that an Ai can try a one strategy in a game like blackjack or poker and win, in the next turn, it will also try the same strategy and loss, and then it realizes the first strategy is no longer working, it has to start looking for another strategy altogether, and in every trial, there is a chance of loosing as well as winning.

Playing as a challenger against humans? Totally possible! But reigning supreme in every poker match? Nope, not gonna happen. You see, in every poker game, there are these leftover cards, just hanging around, untouched. This makes it a super tough gig for AI to accurately read other players' cards, you know?

Think about it this way, when you're having an old-school Poker showdown with your buddies, if AI keeps acing them all, that's a hint that it's peeking at the cards. Now, flip the scene to a snazzy casino setup – AI's poker face won't be so fab at bluffing against its opponents' emotions.

And why the fuss about ChatGPT in the poker game? Well, darling, ChatGPT's all about text wizardry, not card-trick mastery. It doesn't stash memories as brilliantly as a card shark would.

I also think that because AI development doesn't seem significant, more research is needed to use AI to the fullest. But later, once the developers find the right formula for AI, it will change the face of gambling and make casinos have to keep up with the technology too. AI is an achievement of humans to make something that can help human activities, so the developers continue to work to maximize AI work so that humans can use it properly and as expected. So maybe AI won't destroy gambling games but rather help gamblers to be able to win but we also have to know that casinos definitely won't let it happen.

nope never, poker has a lot of odds also there's a 6 or 9 players on a table. Each hands has different odds of winning unlike blackjack you can use math on it maybe chat gpt can destroy online blackjack but not poker, you can teach ai to play poker but it can't defeat the system. But still nothing is impossible since we're currently living in a small step to the future AI is a machine learning system that gathering knowledge everyday.

I have thought that if we can put an AI in a casino right now, we will not have good Results, because the AI will only do what it should do, the task without knowing what it means to win or lose, but when an AI recognize well that the objective is to win , you will have to do a better analysis to achieve it, what I do not see possible is that the AI gets into the software and manages to read it, or the movements that come, because that would be a hack and not a task of the AI , because the hacks in the casinos can happen but I have not seen a hack in a specific game because the games internally have a lot of Protection.

That could be what gamblers will need who haven't managed to get more accurate information so it is hoped that by using an AI system, they can collect the necessary data quickly for later analysis. And with our knowledge, we can finally analyze the information and understand it more quickly to choose a team or player who can win.

With the combination of AI technology and knowledge that we have, it will certainly help us to win that bet. In the future, there will be some gamblers who manage to use AI well so they can win from the casino. But for the result, the casino will still get a bigger advantage than the gambler.

It is possible since AI system improves from time to time, we might see that kind of improvement where gamblers will find that kind of AI system where they can base the research in game that they will going to bet, it will add up with how you understand the game as this information from AI system will going to help you to analyze the game much quicker, experienced gamblers will take that good advantage with the advance data that the system will going to provide.

Your knowledge, together with the offer information from AI, you can maximize the use of the system and will lessen the time
when you are doing your research.

In addition, this AI model can collect data more quickly than manual work that requires more detailed searches. This may be an advantage offered by the AI model for bettors. However, I think many bettors still prefer manual work to use this AI model, especially since this AI model may not be able to find accurate information in a short time now.

So it's best for gamblers who want to use such an AI model to wait for developments from the developers until those developers release an AI model that can do that kind of work. And if an AI model like that can work optimally as expected, maybe it will help bettors find more accurate information that can provide analysis to bettors and choose a team or player who can win.