Topic: Can Chat GTP destroy poker on-line gambling??? - page 7. (Read 5048 times)

If you want to win money playing poker which is obvious because it is gambling we gamble to win, it will be very hard to design an AI based application or program which play poker like a pro.
instead we can gamble at chess game which have 5/5 ratio for ability and 0 for luck. we already have bots for chess. but chess for gambling is not very popular and have very less game providers.
I seen some apps which allow to gamble with other player in chess.

A few days ago I saw a documentary that changed my mind on this topic. It talked about the influence of luck versus ability in different games, and while for Blackjack the ratio was 2/5 luck and 3/5 ability, in the case of poker the ability was even more decisive, with a 4/5.

So, if users had to compete against an AI in poker online, it would be almost impossible for them to win, unless they used AI themselves too.

In the case of chess, btw, with a 5/5 ratio for ability and 0/5 for luck, it is proven impossible to beat the machine, so in the case of poker it would be possible, but really hard.

Yes, it is a very fascinating topic, but to be honest I am not a fan of programming, I don't like it very much, the truth is I trained for it in college but I don't like it very much, for this reason I think that things are done when they are done. For a specific purpose, intelligence flows and is learned very quickly, accelerated I would say, programming in particular usually takes a while to learn, but if there is talent, I think that reading books and practicing is enough, for me the things when they are done with respect to the AI You can take advantage of the boom, especially when it comes to games of chance, those who want to cheat, already have their online robots learned, train them to have a high level but p Even so, I believe that AI has a lot to develop, for me there is still a lot to do.

So things when they are AI, well it is quite difficult, especially for programming, in AI programming it is essentially something more difficult to program, because the things that are seen there and how they have to be put to interact are something crazy, that's at least what it seems to me, but cklaor is my way of seeing this programming, it's not my strong point, but there they eat up everything that one knows and doesn't know about programming, so I don't see it as very attractive, what you say is to be able to do a type of programming, it is very good, but no, the truth is that CHATGPT, although I do not have access, requires a lot of development, and it is because it is not easy, being able to migrate so much data to a server, because it will not provide the capacity, for that reason it is that and I think that when one is in training periods of a robot, one can only connect to a powerful internet and filter certain information to give answers, that is what basically seems to me that ChatrGPT does, of course the GPT-4 protein is another thing, because they can generate videos, music, among other things.

The thing is that the AI is supposed to play a strategy that is almost close to perfectly unexploitable if the right inputs are done. The only saving grace is that it takes time to load up these inputs and people wont be able to solve in real time. Given that we still have a few more years online before people can truly abuse this. And of course there is always the gambling element of poker.

Generally adding to your note, if someone is a lot better than another person at poker, assuming fairplay, long term - the person worse can never win.

AI can only be a cheat code if it has access to the game server.  But if AI is run not connected to the game server then there is no way it can detect or announce the result of an upcoming wager.  As I read, Poker online has too many variables that an AI can't be able to solve.  Aside from that we know human gameplay matures as he is exposed to different strategies done in Poker online.  this alone can make the AI keep on guessing rendering the AI helpless in predicting the result of the game.

This is how big AI is, especially when it comes to gambling. But don't get too excited about AI becoming the ultimate gambling cheat code all of a sudden. I know a lot about both AI and casino games. It's possible for AI to learn more advanced methods over time, but I don't think it will ever be able to master the game. , especially since gambling is a game of chance (though probably it can win the poker)

I agree with your skepticism about these online courses promising to make one an AI guru. Programming AI isn't something you do on the weekend; it's hard, takes a lot of work, and needs a deep understanding. Not everyone can "create" an AI, but people can harvest its powers. Need to know how? Instead of getting into the details of how to programme it, you should focus on how to use it well. You can learn to use midjourney for images, runaway gen-2 for videos or chatgpt for all the wordy stuff

There is an AI that beats a Poker professional player. On a live game. What do you mean it requires ten hours? What kind of things does the AI/program/algorithm study? The gameplay strategy or the opponent plays? More importantly, what is the name of the AI/program (machine) that you know of?

Here are the things. There is an AI that has been developed which able to beat a professional player in a live game. I have said it many times. For example, Pluribus (no-limit Texas hold 'em)and DeepStack (Heads-Up No-Limit Poker). Furthermore, there is also Libratus.

Well, nothing and nobody can be 101% successful in poker. Of course, if we are talking about "fair play", without peaking in other players cards. So I guess even this GTOWizard will make mistakes here and there, more or less... We are talking about poker here, I saw some crazy turns on the poker tables, so I am not sure how successful these AI bots can be. And to be honest, except for some big words and stories, I didn't see how these bots actually work, and where I can see that.

The prompts are very important, no doubt about that, but still today there is no such machine that can beat human professionals right away, without studying them for tens of hours, as far as I know.


Sandra, to surpass in what exactly? It matters. In everything? No, you can't make such a machine. But in one particular task, it's easy. Take simple calculator, for instance. It surpasses humans in calculating.

Guys look @ GTOWizard's (The leading poker software) new product release. They're introducing a GTOWizard.AI, which can solve real time for the solution against any predicted strategy. A scary thought for people in online poker nowadays.

Its still very possible that casinos will start using AI to,play with poker players. We may never know, technology is just developing so fast that its possible human skills are not going to work against an AI.

And then for the love of the game, you intend to only play on physical casino only to discover human-like-AI is dealing the cards in Vegas. Not too farfetch I think.

The scope of AI is very large and has many things to show for itself, however, when we make a small sample of what we can imagine that AI can do, it is a reason that, yes, it scares casino owners, even if they have security with blockchanin, because it is said that AI goes much further than Blockchain itself, so in this order of ideas we could think that AI could be the Holy Grail for everything and that is not the case, for now AI is in a constant development, one could talk about specialized probors just for playing poker, where they can be trained for a long time so that they become poker masters, and it is not bad, in fact it is being done and this is sure to be the case for many players with skills. for programming it is and they can do it, but it is difficult to integrate the robot into a lpatadomra, because it is complicated, there is no good reference of what it can do, what the number of cards it uses is, in addition the AI does enter the platform as a user, the casino can realize that it is an AI and can be banned, then it is not recommended, in addition, there are many people who say that everything referring to the fact that the AI does not yet have the level that we Imagine, and yes, it is in Beta mode, there is no guarantee that a good job can be done with a robotor, because obviously it has to be stronger in terms of its database and the fact that a person learns from AI, well, I don't rule it out. , but I know that it would take you a lot of time studying it, it's not that easy to set up there.

I say this because I have seen many courses on the web on social networks where they say that they teach you how to program an AI and how to program IA, which I find difficult, because this is something that undermines a logic that in the end when it gets worse Being advanced is crazy, so the person has to understand very well what programming is, how everything works to see if they reach that level without problems.

No ... It could possibly be true; the only exceptions there is that the main idea to surpass human nature as you said isn't actualized yet...I don't think it can for some consolidated reasons... Cus how TF would you expect something that was barely made outta one quarter of man's infinite wisdom to surpass the maker itself?? Isn't it weird??..bahahhhahaha!!

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

Unfortunately, the output of ChatGPT is not derived from input-based mathematical reasoning. So the outcome you get is not technically based on a mathematical decision or analytical reasoning. This kind of AI, as far as I know, ability to do math comes as emergent property from the gigantic dataset it has.

It is different from the AI tool that I and others mentioned before in this thread, which is DeepStack and Pluribus. Those calculate the process thoroughly using the game state information.

I actually played black jack and texas holdem with ChatGPT last weekend, and I was surprised of the outcome. ChatGPT based its decision on mathematics and the most likely outcome, while my own decision sometimes can get distracted by whts going on at the table.

I think its a really good tool for newbies and I will continue to play with it.

Although there are some advantages many people are still not sure about Chat GPT the model is only as good as the data it was trained on so it can exhibit bias or produce responses inconsistent with human values and beliefs the reactions generated can sometimes be inappropriate or offensive. In summary ChatGPT is a powerful tool for creating human like text but it's important to use it with caution and understand its limitations. Although it is easy to get data here it will take a lot of time to develop people still do not know its proper use.

I don't know for sure because if Tilt can only be done by professional poker players when they gamble in real life, it's possible that AI can't do it at the moment. After all, they only play online, where they don't meet face to face. AI may be able to collect data and use hundreds of strategies that AI has, but AI will still find it difficult to analyze the emotions of each poker player. Maybe if, in the future, there is a technology that allows poker players to play online using holograms like the ones in the movies, AI might be able to analyze it.

That is what the casino will do in its efforts to deal with the AI that gamblers will use and ensure that the AI used by the casino can protect the casino. The casino will always develop its AI to continue providing that protection so that the opportunities for gamblers who use AI will never be greater than the AI owned by the casino. The casino will leverage the capabilities of the developers who work with the casino to provide the best AI for the casino.

And if AI becomes a common thing used by gamblers and casinos, it will make the gambling business even more attractive. We may never imagine how gambling will be in the future when AI is widely used and maybe we will be one of the gamblers who also use AI so that we can win some money. But we must remember that the casino is the owner of the business and it is difficult to get big wins from the owner of the business.

Certainly. I have cited a reference before. The quoted post also mentions an AI and gambling that works together, which is Pluribus. I'm sure you did not even try to look it up.

One thing I referenced in this thread was DeepStack, an Expert-Level Artificial Intelligence in Heads-Up No-Limit Poker, based on their findings. So obviously those are the evidence that AIs and gambling are able to work together. It is rather weird that if you claim you have seen many discussions yet you did not find those pieces of information in regard to capabilities that existed.

Due to curiosity, I asked the chatbot itself about the topic.  I asked two chatbot namely Bard from google and Chat Openai .  While bard.google stated that whether Chat grp can destroy poker online is dependent on the following factor:


While chat.openai states that chatbot cannot destroy the poker online or any form of gambling because its reason is that Poker involves incomplete information and skilled humans can outwit bots.


Now we know that even the chatbot itself states that it can't destroy poker or any form of gambling because of various reasons and variables.

For centuries, casinos have sought to safeguard their own interests. AI is the latest tool in many. You suggest casinos will continually making AI to match player advancement. I concur completely. Imagine casinos using AI to study customers' behavior in real time. They quickly identified gambler AI use trends, which affected the odds subtly but effectively.

However, scientists and authors are advancing AI quickly. There may never be a theoretical balance. Imagine two sprinters always improving and attempting to beat each other. An infinite cycle. AI adds complexity to this dynamic, and bettors may lose some doors.