Topic: Can Chat GTP destroy poker on-line gambling??? - page 9. (Read 5048 times)

To my knowledge, there haven't been any instances of this. However, the possibility exists if the AI has been trained for such a task. Without the necessary training, it won't be capable of executing such commands. In essence, AI will initially adhere to its programming. Historically, there have been instances of AI capable of assisting players during poker games. I'm confident that ChatGPT, like those AIs, can provide similar assistance. I might even inquire with it myself later, jokingly. Nonetheless, I believe it's entirely feasible. These AI systems can offer valuable advice for your poker sessions, however, keep in mind that you'd have to describe the situation and wait a bit for its response.

There are a lot of ways for sites to combat AI in poker and AI has been prevalent in online poker for many odd years already. To combat the potential dominance of AI in online poker, platforms have multiple approaches: developing algorithms to detect non-human play patterns, introducing periodic CAPTCHAs and 2FA authentication, analyzing extended play patterns for signs of AI usage and empowering players to report suspicious behaviors. These combined measures aim to preserve the game and its integrity.

This is generically referring to pokerstars, gg.net & some other mobile app games from my understanding.

        -     The question is, has there been any news in this era that because of AI, it has defeated every house edge in casinos? It's like I've never seen or watched news like that. Although I know that recently Ai has been trending in the industry like this.

But it is not at such a point that because of Ai, many casinos have already lost to it, which is the reason for the closure of other casinos in crypto gambling. I haven't read a single one like the ones I mentioned. So for me it's just a rumor.

An interesting related take about ChatGPT's case study with Chess: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/F6vH6fr8ngo7csDdf/chess-as-a-case-study-in-hidden-capabilities-in-chatgpt#Playing_against_Stockfish_Level_3_with_the_magic_prompt.

To put it short, ChatGPT is able to play chess given detailed and thorough prompts input.


If one one wondering, does ChatGPT is able to play chess the answer is yes. But considering its efficiency and effectiveness, surely it does not behave in a perfect manner. Chess is known to beat humans by brute forcing any advantageous move in the state of the game, and that is already been done with software made specifically for that.

Now about poker, I think it will also be able to play it, given a detailed prompt, but do not expect maximum results. Also, since poker contains many factors, especially luck, it won't be able to dominantly beat any human players.

That's what we are basically discussing here. If ChatGPT could be used to cheat on gambling sites, poker sites in particular it would mean the end of online gambling. But we can't imagine that happening even theoretically. Because fee is collected before game starts. The house doesn't care who's going to win as long as fees are collected.


That's what I think about it too. Streaming platform did not kill movie theaters and electronic books did not kill paper books. There's a room for everything, and different people can choose what they prefer.

Well, there's always the possibility that things with the AI make some people afraid to play because they know they can't compete against an AI, but an AI can be used to provide courses on poker so they can take advantage of some of that knowledge that they have. you have, a poker game is difficult for an AI to win if it is not integrated into the server, because when a player uses the AI he has to do it through his user and that is something that could be very risky, because The way an AI plays, according to our interpretation, is that it is very advanced, because only in training can it become a poker master, that is what can cause fear, both for a player and for a casino.

Following things as they are, it could be that one can choose, if the casinos are discovered to have AI to play against the users, well, the people will go from that casino, because with only the system they have is enough for a person to have Now if they add a higher level of difficulty, things get out of hand and no one will go, because who can beat an AI? If nothing else, the AI in a short time can become a master, an expert, he can keep the total knowledge of the best poker masters.

Currently we can't believe that things can get out of control, casinos won't use AI for us, maybe they will use it for their safety and maybe that's how they can stop everything, but the fear of being too strong with us with an AI is very big, because whenever we play against an AI the chances for us are nil, that's how it happened to me in fact I've played chess on pages, and that's something that didn't work, I could never win, and when they do something like that, it seems to me that it is very unfair to do it, because there will never be more opprotundia, it is like throwing our money overboard, and basically it is not fair, that is how the casinos see it too, for that reason is that by side and side we do not know You can do nothing but accept things as they unfold.

Yes, even though this AI technology is very sophisticated, I'm sure gamblers will not fully use this to play poker to beat the dealer, let alone the opponent, they will use the game as usual and only use AI technology to the extent of knowledge, nothing more or to try to beat the opponent, especially the dealer, even so This technology is also still not very familiar in gambling.

I've never even tried to research using AI even though it can be used to help me do research on gambling and how to beat the dealer, but I've never tried anything out of the ordinary, because I know any casino dealer has definitely used this advanced technology before us. use it to beat them. because they will always win against us

Yes, in fact, in the Machine Learning of the AI, it simulates something similar to what I am saying, because it is certain that it is necessary to connect to the server to see how the game situation is and to be able to determine which is the best move, but obviously the problem It is that when someone tries to connect to the casino using the AI, the security systems will be able to detect it by the connection method and how the robot does inside the casino, the connection that I say is simple, you enter as a user as long as you have a direct connection to the internet and with the plays, with all the history of the best poker masters in the world and so the AI can determine the winning play, that's how I imagine it, with respect to programming, it's difficult because as I said before, Machine Learning can simulate up to a certain point and its programming at that time is not easy, the disks you are talking about must be very large and there is also a problem there, because there is so much information on the web, on the deep web, because you cannot To make a robot that only has information about the intention that everyone agrees with, it must enter the information of deeper levels, and that is what they do not touch, but it is known that they do.

And the AI for that moment must be precise, because accessing the deepest servers is not easy, so this type of thing is when I see the greatest complication, because we all know that there is information that is not obtained on the normal web, but rather certain information is given at deep levels and costs money, so those are the things that seem complicated to me, and obviously for a poker game like this it looks simple, there is a lot of theory, although sometimes theory has its limits, practice is what It does the master and the robot may not even need to go to the web to look for the information over time, it is what comes to my mind, I am not very enlightened with AI programming, but I have reviewed some things in my spare time, and the truth is if you don't understand certain concepts it's like going crazy.

That's probably the beginning of the AI capabilities we can find today. Developers will never be satisfied with creating other things related to AI technology. In the future, we will see the development of AI getting better than now and AI will be able to help humans work more optimally while developing our own abilities to control the use of AI.

And when it's applied to all businesses, it will help owners or people who want to be associated with the business to make it easier. But the presence of AI may be misused by people who want to take advantage or benefit from AI for their own benefit so that they will create AI that can work according to their goals. And while there is a use of AI for good things, there must be a use of AI for bad things because that was a long time ago before things were what they are now.

In general, you are right.  If all players somehow use AI when playing poker, then it turns out that AI itself will have to focus on sequences of random actions, and if these sequences are really 100% random, such as elementary sequences fom tossing a coin and results in the form  heads / tails, it turns out that AI as a whole will not bring something new and interesting to the game itself.  However, if AI is only used by a subset of the players, and the rest of the plaers just play regular poker, then there may be some advantage to those who use AI.  This is a game that should not be allowed.  Unfortunately, it is sometimes quite difficult to understand if the player is using information from AI because it can be transferred to him in many ways, including very inconspicuous and rather secret ones.
 In this case, I would consider that AI just ruins the great game of poker itself.

So far, I haven't met anybody that uses AI systems for their poker gambling activities. Some of my friends have a wide range of charts they rely on during bigger tournaments, and after big hands they also use programs to analyse their plays. But during the playing itself we all just focus on the tables in front of us and don't have any software running on the side. Poker is very different from other casino games, because the casino has no stage in the game itself. They only make a profit from the amount of hands played on their tables. Whenever a poker player wins, he takes the money from other gamblers. Which also why I don't see any big threat for the casinos from the rise of AI gambling programs. The only problem is that gamblers that don’t rely on AI will be at a disadvantage, so there is going to be a transition period where all the players have to adopt AI based gambling. Which kind of makes it fair again, because all rely on same systems. A big company will bring out the most advanced AI for poker and all the players can buy it. Also, as long as the other casino games are closed systems where the casino has its house edge, I don’t think it’s going to be a problem if gamblers use AI gambling strategies.

As AI trading bots didn't become "the end" to traditional trading I think other types of AI will not be danger to online gambling. At one point we may observe many different bots playing against each other (just like how it happens in trading) which is not a problem in my opinion. You can still enjoy playing it. I am pretty sure some professional players and people who do it for fun will play poker themselves with a bit of assistance from AI.

Yeah,  for me personally though, I believe Ai is one of another great innovation after bitcoin, blockchain and cryptocurrencies, Ai will be very helpful to the human race because, it can make alot of things easier, like for example, few days ago, I was just doing some research On the possible uses of Ai, (I've been reading a lot online but I've never really tried experimenting anything), I discovered that we can even as a novice build a beautiful website with the help and guidance of or from Ai.
I downloaded this Ai app from Google play store, it goes by the name, CHATGPT, I decided to explore the power of Ai through this app, and indeed, I discovered how power Ai can be, I have never learnt how to code or build anything on the web before, but with the help the help of that simple looking app, I was able to build a very small, but yet, an amazing website, I simply stated what I wanted, and the Ai wrote the code for me, I simply copied the code to my vs code browser and behold, a small, but very beautiful website.

Ai will really help to advance humanity and technology to the next level, but then, when it comes to games like poker, which is the main reason for this discussion in the first place, I do not think the developers of Ai, put all the work into such a great innovation, just to be able to win or hack poker.

Well, the truth is that sometimes the AI as one sees it is something that sometimes seems to me not so easy, with Machine learning it is something that sometimes makes me a little crazy, in that it seems a little difficult to understand, without However, you are right, there are many courses and there are AI ones, but what you have to do is the programming that is more technical, and when it is more technical, the truth is, you have to know many things, of course, to stop someone who is always on the subject of Programming may be easier for you, but I program very little and I don't know if I'm out of shape, but it's been hard for me to be honest.

In any case, you have to be careful with the courses you take because there are some who are just doing what is requested and the app does it, but there are things that are more complex that the app doesn't do, but to do Simple things if you can find it easily with the app.

For now, I don't think you can destroy a casino system, not even with the best AI implemented, because everything is in a development phase, the robots learn but not in the way you think, that's something else complicated, and also learns according to the information that is fed to it.

The majority of people are always looking for a way to win through AI and beating the casino, but I don't see that as viable, firstly because it is difficult to do something like this and secondly that the robots are not optimized at all for a requirement so gfrande, however there are people who do not believe and insist, I have always said something, the AI can help those to make sports predictions and it is not that the AI tells them for which team, or athlete according to the sport on which to bet, In this aspect, I believe that the robot can help because it has access to all the history and all the data, and things can be done with the information, according to these things we can help each other, but not to do something efficient and totally exact, that is something that we can take into consideration, for now with poker the only thing that an AI can help is to provide courses.

Your understanding of AI is somewhat on track, but it's also deeply wrong. As any genius will tell you, speed is everything. No one wants their AI searching the languid depths of the internet when it can obtain data at lightening speed. That's where you lose me, though, friend

Does AI have anything to do with online poker gambling? Honestly? Not all it takes to figure out the cards is to snoop around the server. That perspective is that of a novice. Casinos can occasionally be complete dumps with subpar technology. AI can foresee, adapt, and perform better when given enough data. The poker player's human element? Indeed, it exists, but you shouldn't undervalue the capabilities of a well-trained AI. The issue is superiority, not cheating

When it comes to storing Data, it is obvious that there is a need for storage discs on this so that AI can easily access the data within its server and do not have to go online to search for data.  It is faster that way IMO, but I wonder what is the connection between the things you stated on AI dominating Poker online gambling.

I believe AI cannot dominate Poker unless this AI has a connection to the game server that let it have a peak of the cards on deck, cards on hand of players, and the cards that are about to be drawn.  As the earlier replies stated, there are too many variables (assuming AI is not connected to the Poker game system) for the AI to guess, plus the gameplay of the players.  So in my opinion, AI will never dominate online poker unless this AI is cheating by connecting to the poker game data server.

Maybe that's what we know for now but later, after many developments in this field of AI, maybe AI will also be used for data collection, where it will be faster to get the data because AI will be connected to all servers. We will get AI reports that are useful for our analysis in determining or making decisions. But indeed, we won't know what kind of system the developer will develop because we are just ordinary people who don't really understand these AI codes.

It is just a fad and cannot actually destroy any kind of online gambling games, since those games are based on luck, not google-able knowledge.

AI programming does not seem to be all that difficult, if you were to look at all the AI apps popping up, for even the most mundane of tasks, it seems to be quite easy. I would argue no more difficult than regular, old-fashion programming. After all, AI is simply a kind of algorithm and past events have shown it can be tricked and it has its own limitations. The only reason why people are making such a big fuss about Artificial Intelligence is because they think it is REAL AI. Its not. It just mimics real AI. In reality AI is just a glorified "Let Me Google That For You" app.

Yes, that's true, it all depends on how to use it, because if it's not appropriate to use Al or GPT Chat, it can actually provide unwanted risks, such as damaging the system or providing incorrect information.
But if it is indeed possible, it is better to never use artificial intelligence like that in gambling because apart from not really providing benefits that are not necessarily good, someone can also be dependent on just relying on GPT Chat without wanting to learn directly what they will do such as strategies play or collect information to analyze betting predictions.

Even though the GPT Chat may be an artificial intelligence that has an accuracy rate of 60% to 70%, if we ourselves do not know or understand all the information provided then it will also be in vain because we cannot compare or assess whether it is correct or appropriate or not yet.
In fact, what worries me is when someone abuses the GPT Chat to cheat on gambling sites.

Well, from the programming point of view, it is a fact that the robot or all robots are capable of learning through training. In the case of ChatGPT, in their programming they have access to the web and grab content from there, according to what I have I read from the robot, now, I don't know how much it can store or it could be that it has a type of buffer storage and that from there what it does is take the information, process it, learn what it should and then release it, basically that's or What do AI robots do? At the time I was learning to program AI in the U lab, I didn't have that so developed, there were algorithms and a way to order so that I could do some tasks, at that time it was difficult to protocols, but I think that now the ocasas are better to program them, but when I saw it it was almost like programming in assembler, it was quite a feat to do it and something difficult too.

Actually, I don't know how complicated it is to do the programming, but among a group of programmers I think that a lot can be achieved, here what has to be taken into consideration is the kind of programmer that they may be, those who know something about databases have more information to put there, the only thing I don't know well is about the database because I didn't see that, but the Informatics Engineers do handle it well, so it is super important to do everything that can be seen and store the robot of the AI.

Many are starting to do AI courses, and I don't know how close the courses are, but the information is there, so the robot is going to save the data, but I imagine that not all of them because, as I said before, things when They deal with the databases, I don't know if they have increased in the AI, also the processors that are simulation can have them incorporated and they can only be added, but it must have a huge capacity, now as all the micros are so powerful well things are increasing and are better.