Topic: Can Chat GTP destroy poker on-line gambling??? - page 4. (Read 5048 times)

The thing is that,  AI will and have not proven anything yet and at this point, there have been a lot of speculations around this whole thing since there has been so many AI development that has promised to prove or defeats human capacity although none have proven to act accurately yet and all that we have seen through far are just projects that promise some level of success in the poker games or other in house games to give the hot steady success records.

But then also we have to acknowledge the presence of casino systems that give the house an edge over the players as against what is always speculated for AI to earn 100% success records in the future.

Pluribus is claimed to be the first bot to beat humans in multiplayer games, clearly the impact of Pluribus will be a serious threat to online poker as you said, I don't know how artificial intelligence works in beating the system in online poker, after reading several references about pluribus on wikipedia and I am surprised that the development of pluribus has reached a complex level to beat humans from some of the responses of other poker players. We don't know how pluribus will develop in the future, but many developers will study the pluribus source code and create other code that has been implemented relatively cheaply, it may take another 2 years or more.

We should expect more form chatGBT in the future because I can see that the artificial intelligence is been update everytime and if this continues, it is going to be a serious threat to poker gamers. It might be able to play difficult games and predict future result with great  accuracy even though it is not 100%. This is the same way technology was been developed in the eighteen and nineteen century till now that technology has become advance making work to be more easier. The time that artificial intelligence will dominate the world is already here so we should be prepared.

It cant be denied, can it? The part AI plays in our modern world is both amazing and scary, as you said. The movie you referenced isnt real, but it has some disturbing similarities with predictions about AI's unchecked growth. Okay, so AI in online games.... An easy way for computers to understand how people think and act by using trends to make sure the house wins most of the time. Some might say its not really a problem, but I think its a clear example of what happens when we depend too much on high-tech gadgets.

Your point about how the search for better AI might make people forget about basic human values is right on the mark. It is very important to remember where we came from and not let these amazing things blind us to the risks that come with them. Not being against growth is not the point; the point is to move forward carefully.

This is hard for me to believe, but it looks like ChatGPT, or another AI, can destroy online poker. I read somewhere that the developers of Pluribus declined to release the source code out of fear it would destroy online poker. I thought it was exaggeration at first, but now I think online poker is under a serious threat. We don't know for sure about the costs , but even if they are too high today, all of that will be much cheaper in a year or two, right?

That's right, I have always said that things when it comes to AI are pretty good and sometimes it can be gloomy. A few days ago I was watching a movie that was like from China, it was about AI, I couldn't watch it in its entirety because I had a lot of sleep, but if when the movie started they were giving as a kind of story where AI was represented as something ancient, going back to these years, where it showed the advances of robots and many other things, then as things were happening, and progressing because everything was becoming more perfect, where robots helped people, operated, measurement was advancing, and that was something that pleased me, then the robots were the police, even the authorities were the AI , until one day the AI trobots began to attack with nuclear bombs and all this, of course it was a movie, but I do not rule out that all this is going to happen in that way, because as a human being, man marvels at the advances that has achieved and neglects the most basic things in life.

So when a person is in these times, you have to learn and see that things cannot happen just like that, a lot of emphasis must be placed that things must go in the right direction, you know that currently an AI was made a simulation where that machine or AI robot was supposedly under the command of the world and wiped out all of humanity, then he apologized, not because in that simulation he activated nuclear bombs and all that, so that's something that anyone can't leave So lightly, in this world we cannot give priority to things that have almost no hierarchy and not marvel so much.
or with things that we shouldn't, because creating a robot's conscience will see many inconsistencies, it will fail to recognize details of wars, unjust things and they will want to make justice that it did to us at that moment, then that can trigger a chain reaction Of course I'm talking about AI advancing a lot, another thing is in casinos, which will obviously be very easy when AI is advanced.

Based on the paper, at least we can deduce that 144 dollars is the cost to produce the baseline blueprint strategy. Moreover, 128GB RAM is required during live play to store the compressed blueprint strategy.

If we use Google Cloud pricing (https://cloud.google.com/products/calculator/). A server with 128GB RAM, and 16 vCPUs costs USD 527.93 per month. The question is, I did not know how many CPU cores it required during live play and the disk storage for the related applications.

Note that, it is a monthly ballpark number. So, I believe if we count the hourly price, it should be able to break even, supposing the program is able to practically generate profit.

They have limitations. There is no doubt about that, and these AIs are developed by humans, and they are put into testing and research. I believe if they want to perfect them to be used in ruining poker, the developer will just have to do more research on them and increase their capabilities. It's just a matter of time and dedicated hard work, and they can make that happen.
 
The only thing there is that, the same way that even an old and experienced player in the poker game will still lose their game sometimes, that's the same way the AI can lose as well; they can't be correct all the time, but their chance of winning will increase more than an average human player since they are being programmed using every possible idea from experience players that they can get, adding together the AI's calculating skills.

There have never been a time that I have ever considered that AI will have any capacity to beat the casino systems this is because of the confidence I have in the house edge system,  this approach has helped to checkmate external involvement in gambling and poker being one of the most popular games have been mostly developed to secure and sustain the security and transparency of the whole process.




So to say that chat GTP will end the era and reign of poker sound like an underestimation of the capability of the poker system and how best to work and apply it to our gambling life at all time.

But I mean, can we at least evaluate the costs. It is known that "the base strategy was computed in eight days, and at market rates would cost about $144 to produce", and to build that strategy Pluribus relied on offline self-play. But it is also known that Pluribus continues to learn in real-time during its online play. And my question is how much this real-time learning would cost? If Pluribus can win $1,000 per hour playing poker online, would it be enough to cover all the costs?

Well, there is something that we should all know and always analyze, from the first moment that AI begins to give good results in casinos, and it is obvious that many will try to earn money using it, I am a person who can normally be aware of them. advances in technology, because it is something that I like, it is something that can practically be established as a better way to do how everything is advancing, it is obvious that things are now looking for a way to go towards a better path, so This is what some people use in vain, if the AI gives them profits, then they continue playing there and they are not going to do anything else but use it ad nauseam, that is the idea of them doing it, but of course this does not mean that they are stupid either. It is useless to protect yourself with AI security, that is why AI programmers and developers based on this technology are so popular now, which is certainly not easy, you have to know a lot to be able to develop in AI, for this reason reason we might think that things for AI should not be used, because in the chaos that the casino detects that AI was used then they can give a big ban and thus remove the person's account, and that is something embarrassing, because most They have old accounts in the casinos, with a complete KYC, and they can pass that on to other casinos so that they do not do the same to them.

I think that in this order of days, AI will be something very good for some, and bad for others, yes, it can take away work for many, and it can generate many things to be able to establish better changes, in fact the UIA is made to improve the life to humans and stop doing certain jobs and thus adapt to a better lifestyle where everything can be much faster and almost in a perfect way, I personally like when there are advances in medicine, if they do good research, they can give with solutions and cures for many diseases.

With the way science and technology is going on advanced level, there's nothing impossible for researchers and developers to invent as long as they can conceive the idea, this is just something that requires time for them to be successful in it, here's where we are in cryptocurrency today, take a look on how the metaverse is trending the internet with new developments and more research on the use, now we also have the perfection with the use of AI in many sectors of the economy, so I wouldn't disagree if it had been said that the use of ChatGPT can destroy online poker in gambling.

The ops must have really overrated the capacity of AI chatGPT and also underrated the third-party bot development of the casino since he stated that chatGPT can win over the house with reckless abandoning to the point of destroying poker, I know why ops made such a bogus statement is to show to the extent at which AI development has gone, but even at that, ops still need to first study and analyze the possibility before making this statements.


Just like you stated, AI can not give an accurate result all the time in gambling since AI results are based on already configured data and information that make it act in a particular way.

That will be the highest disaster that will happen in the casino gambling industry. Op do you remember that, AI popular known as ChatGTP is an already configured intellectual Robot which gives the same answer for all the time so if it is use for game prediction and casino games gambling eh!! I don't think it will favour some people because the answer will always be the same when the game ends the opposite. There is no way robot will take over human intelligent. It is the human configured the system so the human can disconfigure the system. But if you are saying that it is to insert it in the gambling sector and I don't think it will help the two parties of the company and the gambler. So as for me I I like the way it is.

Everyone will definitely take advantage of the advantages and they will definitely try to find loopholes to be able to do so in the casinos they use but up to now it seems like the casinos still have the advantage and not single gambler has been able to surpass the casinos in any way.
No matter how great gambler is the casino team will always be greater and of course there are many efforts made by the team to be able to detect and take several preventive measures that might harm the casino if left unchecked.
AI so far has not really been proven to be effective in beating skill-based casino games but there will always be ways of abuse by gamblers to be able to really beat the casino but all of that is ultimately in vain because what they do directly continues to be pressed by the team and some of the advanced technology that the casino has.

Some people may really believe in what they are doing in utilizing AI but they forget that the casino will never allow this because it could be detrimental and what the casino will do may be to go further in anticipating and detecting any suspicious activity.

There were a couple of cheating reported in a chess game and I think some happen in a really big event. That was in person take note, so how much more if it was only an online chess or the ones who are not live? I think anyone can easily use a software here to gain an advantage but they are out of luck because the creators already know this and already put measures to stop them.

There are still really good players in a chess game and sadly they can be mistaken as a cheater. Those accusers should work hard on their skill so that they can be on those level and they won't think negatively anymore. For now, they are nothing but similar to those who call a legit casino a scam.

There would  really be those people who would really be taking up advantage if ever they would really be able to see such opportunity but come to mind that its impossible that gambling site owners or businesses would really be that not be wise on going against if ever there would really be some potential or possible plans about integration of AI just to make out some advantage into their business.
Its impossible that they wont really be making those measures knowing that its business and its normal that they would really be putting up some security on their business on which it would really be just a normal approach that they would really be looking for any potential angles on which they could see those probabilities of exploit or whatever that in correlation with possible loss of money
or business fund.

You should really read what is the context of the post you quoted. What exactly in your post is easily debunked by the post that has already been discussed.


I'm afraid I don't know the calculation that can be applied to consumer-grade computational resources. But essentially, if one is able to get a profit, in which obviously the game prize would outweigh the computation resources and the casino-related fees, it should be doable for most people. Which surely decreases the playability of the online casino poker game itself.

Exactly the more reason why we already commented that there be no need to continue this discussion now that we know the level of the impossibility of having such features integrated and operated on the casino at whatever point.

Casinos have their own algorithm and this has been the major contending factor that hhaslimited such development in the past and even present at some point.

I may have missed some things regarding the steps of integrating the IA with the gambling algorithm because gambling will not allow the API to be connected to any system, as there could potentially be bugs that could be exploited and could be linked to the AI.

I don't know specifically about IA technology, all developments in AI technology are very sophisticated so many people assume that AI technology can enter the realm of gambling, but in fact AI technology plays a role in helping all information and is not used for negative interests that are detrimental to gambling sites.