Can maths help you win in gambling ? - page 26.

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Quote from: sparveenat on November 16, 2017, 07:19:12 AM

To win in gambling not only maths will help you have to apply on the right timing and at the right move. Otherwise maths has no use in gambling to win. To win in gambling along with maths smartness and the strategic move only lead you to win.

maths doesn't have much of use in gambling it can help us sometimes to predict the roll but
the most and only important thing in gambling is luck if you dont have any luck you will never
be able to make any profit

In my opinion, gambling is all about mathematics because you could get all the data that was done before you bet. If you watch it, it could help you predict a better bet with it using math, but you really need to work on it because it's hard to do that and you need to be really inclined to math if you want. It could be a strategy of some sorts as long as it's legal.

if you learn about probability and statistics in mathematics you might could find it easily that gambling would only make the players suffering for long time instead win over it. the only way can assure you to keep get a steady profit in gambling are by cheating , exploiting and any other illegal things there. other than that i just believe it's near impossible.

That's true because there is an addition to the house edge and in the long run, that would kill your balance over. If you want to make a profit from it then you should limit yourself, like when you reach this certain amount you will stop, it's either green or red. In the end, it's you who will be in control of it, not anyone. You should be stronger than the evils around you.

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Quote from: crwth on November 20, 2017, 10:13:02 PM

Quote from: JL421 on November 20, 2017, 08:03:12 PM

Quote from: sparveenat on November 16, 2017, 07:19:12 AM

To win in gambling not only maths will help you have to apply on the right timing and at the right move. Otherwise maths has no use in gambling to win. To win in gambling along with maths smartness and the strategic move only lead you to win.

maths doesn't have much of use in gambling it can help us sometimes to predict the roll but
the most and only important thing in gambling is luck if you dont have any luck you will never
be able to make any profit

In my opinion, gambling is all about mathematics because you could get all the data that was done before you bet. If you watch it, it could help you predict a better bet with it using math, but you really need to work on it because it's hard to do that and you need to be really inclined to math if you want. It could be a strategy of some sorts as long as it's legal.

if you learn about probability and statistics in mathematics you might could find it easily that gambling would only make the players suffering for long time instead win over it. the only way can assure you to keep get a steady profit in gambling are by cheating , exploiting and any other illegal things there. other than that i just believe it's near impossible.

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Quote from: JL421 on November 20, 2017, 08:03:12 PM

Quote from: sparveenat on November 16, 2017, 07:19:12 AM

To win in gambling not only maths will help you have to apply on the right timing and at the right move. Otherwise maths has no use in gambling to win. To win in gambling along with maths smartness and the strategic move only lead you to win.

maths doesn't have much of use in gambling it can help us sometimes to predict the roll but
the most and only important thing in gambling is luck if you dont have any luck you will never
be able to make any profit

Yes, that is correct. Maths only help to reduce your losing chances but to win our bet we much be a lucky person on that day.

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Quote from: JL421 on November 20, 2017, 08:03:12 PM

Quote from: sparveenat on November 16, 2017, 07:19:12 AM

To win in gambling not only maths will help you have to apply on the right timing and at the right move. Otherwise maths has no use in gambling to win. To win in gambling along with maths smartness and the strategic move only lead you to win.

maths doesn't have much of use in gambling it can help us sometimes to predict the roll but
the most and only important thing in gambling is luck if you dont have any luck you will never
be able to make any profit

In my opinion, gambling is all about mathematics because you could get all the data that was done before you bet. If you watch it, it could help you predict a better bet with it using math, but you really need to work on it because it's hard to do that and you need to be really inclined to math if you want. It could be a strategy of some sorts as long as it's legal.

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Quote from: sparveenat on November 16, 2017, 07:19:12 AM

To win in gambling not only maths will help you have to apply on the right timing and at the right move. Otherwise maths has no use in gambling to win. To win in gambling along with maths smartness and the strategic move only lead you to win.

maths doesn't have much of use in gambling it can help us sometimes to predict the roll but
the most and only important thing in gambling is luck if you dont have any luck you will never
be able to make any profit

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I've ever read history that 1 gambler able win $ 250.000 with math , maybe at range 1900++
It's amazing right ? but for this digital era, it's quite difficult to make it happen since the system getting complicated from time to time

Everyone with little dose of luck and very large bankroll can do that. Very large bets are required to win 250000$, theoretically you can put million dollars and roll dice on 1.25X and there you go - 250000$. Math? No, he could have lost. He was lucky enough to roll his numbers.
Behind that story is probably link to casino or perhaps referral link Cheesy

Maths can help you calculate your wins and also with a personal audit f your gambling life but it will not make you win games because you are good with numbers, NO! it doesn't work that way and so it is best if you can plan and manage your personal life and emotions before embarking on the journey of gambling.

i think yes calculation can be helpful but not in all formates of gambling, For example in dice games we can only depend on our luck there our calculation will be useless, It cannot help us there to increase the chances of winning the bit. But still in some gambling games like in sports betting we have some chances to use calculation and increase the chances of making money in gambling.

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Quote from: balanghai on November 20, 2017, 06:50:27 AM

I've ever read history that 1 gambler able win $ 250.000 with math , maybe at range 1900++
It's amazing right ? but for this digital era, it's quite difficult to make it happen since the system getting complicated from time to time

Everyone with little dose of luck and very large bankroll can do that. Very large bets are required to win 250000$, theoretically you can put million dollars and roll dice on 1.25X and there you go - 250000$. Math? No, he could have lost. He was lucky enough to roll his numbers.
Behind that story is probably link to casino or perhaps referral link Cheesy

Maths can help you calculate your wins and also with a personal audit f your gambling life but it will not make you win games because you are good with numbers, NO! it doesn't work that way and so it is best if you can plan and manage your personal life and emotions before embarking on the journey of gambling.

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Quote from: balanghai on November 20, 2017, 06:50:27 AM

I've ever read history that 1 gambler able win $ 250.000 with math , maybe at range 1900++
It's amazing right ? but for this digital era, it's quite difficult to make it happen since the system getting complicated from time to time

Everyone with little dose of luck and very large bankroll can do that. Very large bets are required to win 250000$, theoretically you can put million dollars and roll dice on 1.25X and there you go - 250000$. Math? No, he could have lost. He was lucky enough to roll his numbers.
Behind that story is probably link to casino or perhaps referral link Cheesy

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Quote from: Wall-ET on November 17, 2017, 03:03:55 AM

It is just increment or decrement a number by 1, just need to know what cards are... simple as that...
It is harder to learn the rules of BJ then to count cards on BJ Wink

More or less yeah, if you practice on your memory and how to successfully memorize in good order you can earn some on it

. But that's definitely not for everyone.. only a handfull that can memorize that good Tongue

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What order?!?!
you need to know how to count to 52; how to add 1 to a number up to 52 and how to subtract 1 from the number.
If you can't do that I wonder how you can type on the keyboard...

If you have trouble remembering s single number (up to 2 digits), then how do you ever remember your name, or anything else in this matter...

Just want to note again: if you do NOT KNOW when counting cards is, do not comment on it!!!

After all you DO NOT have to remember every card (each card is +1 or -1) and you start from 0, so you add the value of each card to the 0 and you remember the number, one number and that is all....

Please inform yourself before commenting on something you do not know at all!!!!

You are the one who seem uninformed. It is not as simple as you say it is, if it is, tell me how many millions you have made from BlackJack? If it's so easy you should be out there everyday just doing it over and over until you have more money than you can spend in a lifetime, no?

It's not just +1, -1. It's not.

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I've ever read history that 1 gambler able win $ 250.000 with math , maybe at range 1900++
It's amazing right ? but for this digital era, it's quite difficult to make it happen since the system getting complicated from time to time

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I do not think any lessons or theories are effective to help win the gamble. Luck and tranquility is what plays a big role in a gambling.

It plays a big role we all know that luck definitely one of the key factors to win in gambling. But everything that could be learned and understood as a lesson would definitely have an impact someway or some how. It is like studying, some people say that they don't know where or when they will use the subjects that they take in school but they take it to be stronger and more smarter in their decisions.

The fact is that most gamblers simply have a strong intuition. But if a person has immense knowledge in mathematics, in many games he can calculate what and how to do. This is a kind of art and I believe in it.

If a person has immense knowledge in mathematics, he doesn’t play casino games. If he had to play, he could use his knowledge to play in a certain way: to make his money last longer (on average) or go for the highest returns.

Maths help you to understand series of events but can’t help you to predict a particular one, such as what number is going to appear next.

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Yes and yes, simple math using personal formulas had help me win lottery in the past, Atimes it doesn't work. as unbelievable as it may sound I hate math back in school but I never failed it.
Gambling is bad and I have stopped it

I think luck is the main reason why you won in lottery, math is not really vital in games which is called as luck based games like lottery because it is drawn based on a random numbers. I think it would be more useful in sports betting because when you are good in math you can analyze the information very well.

True, math is not a decisive factor in our victory in gambling. If only someone could win gambling any time with the exact same mathematical formula, then I would change my mind regarding math in gambling.

Yes, I agree, With maths you can't always win with same formula as you said, because gambling depends on luck, so sometimes even the odd it will be 1.01, anyone will said that the chance here is too high, It's mean around 99% win, but then you can find yourself lost with and odd like that, It's not logic at all, rather than maths.

I don't believe in luck, luck is out of gambling, even if u did mere speculation and win from time to time, you must have indirectly followed a math formula

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I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know

this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

Im not good with numbers and im not at all genius when it comes to math either. Gambling is a game of chance that is why i rely on luck and my instict whenever i gamble,

I think math can’t help to win in the gambling, For me gambling is gambling whatever happen you can’t win if you are not lucky, In addition you also need to wear your strong hunch. Because winning in gambling like dice roll and slot machine are not needed math theory. Even in poker, blackjack or any other casino games those games are not need math because all you need in this games is strategies and technique on how can you defeat your opponent.

Maths can provide you with empirical evidence about your strategy thereby improving your strategy to win but it will not make you win in gambling per sey. It is just going to help you plan and strategize where as the rest is left to luck and skill.

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Quote from: iqlimasyadiqa on November 19, 2017, 12:21:06 AM

Gambling is not something that can be mathematically calculated. gambling games are heavily influenced by luck and this becomes a hallmark of the gambling game. when we want a victory in the game gambling then it can not be ascertained, any clever person and as good as any analysis done then the results of the gambling game can not be predicted. fully gambling is a luck that is impossible to predict.

Yes, gambling is completely upon luck. To some extent one can predict the outcome through the past history of the teams involved into the particular event. Math too can help in the predictions of the dice and few slot games that are dependent on the calculation.

It really depends upon the kind of games, because in computer based gambling it is more difficult to win the game through mathematical calculation since it was design to be more advantage compare to gambler because it used a millions of algorithms that randomly executed, so it is hard for humans to calculate. Unlike in some gambling like game card that can be predicted and calculated therefore that situation the math can be used to win the game.

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Quote from: bajing on September 27, 2017, 07:14:30 AM

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know

this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

Im not good with numbers and im not at all genius when it comes to math either. Gambling is a game of chance that is why i rely on luck and my instict whenever i gamble,

I think math can’t help to win in the gambling, For me gambling is gambling whatever happen you can’t win if you are not lucky, In addition you also need to wear your strong hunch. Because winning in gambling like dice roll and slot machine are not needed math theory. Even in poker, blackjack or any other casino games those games are not need math because all you need in this games is strategies and technique on how can you defeat your opponent.

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Quote from: bajing on September 27, 2017, 07:14:30 AM

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know

this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

Im not good with numbers and im not at all genius when it comes to math either. Gambling is a game of chance that is why i rely on luck and my instict whenever i gamble,

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Quote from: iqlimasyadiqa on November 19, 2017, 12:21:06 AM

Gambling is not something that can be mathematically calculated. gambling games are heavily influenced by luck and this becomes a hallmark of the gambling game. when we want a victory in the game gambling then it can not be ascertained, any clever person and as good as any analysis done then the results of the gambling game can not be predicted. fully gambling is a luck that is impossible to predict.

But gambling is about math too. You can make strategies without math in gambling. Maybe you can't find sometimes that it is useable but if you look at the situation math is always part of gambling.

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I dont think so, the fact that mathematics is in the origin of the algorithms that manage betting rules does not necessarily imply that it can help. What is important is the logic, the strategy and your experience. Gambling is not an exact science !!
However, there are stochastic theories in applied mathematics that suggest theories could present solutions but they remains ectremly relative.

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yea absolutely math helps in gambling but not for player. it helps for game makers, developers.
you know the house always win

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Its all risk management so maths is a big bit of that.

Risk 20 pounds to win 1000 pounds OK

Risk 1000 pounds to win 20 pounds not so good

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