Can maths help you win in gambling ? - page 40.

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Quote from: bajing on September 27, 2017, 07:14:30 AM

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know

this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

Well mathematics can help make your game fair from online casinos but it does not guarantee your win , It impossible from a player to guarantee a sure win if the casino was using a provably fair sort of algorithm because the outcome was always random given that their was no security flaw on their part.

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I can not believe that maths can help you in regards to the luck game roulette where you play against a certain house edge.

Despite of this, the variance is balanced after 1 million throws and I ask you how you can handle this?

If you play strategical games like blackjack or poker, then maths can of course help you to win in gambling.

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Quote from: iram3130 on September 30, 2017, 02:33:30 PM

Math is everywhere. Most of the games are based on math, you need to have a little basic understanding otherwise you may lose big. But luck would be the most important factor in gambling.

But in gambling luck is very important than math because you can't be over smart than the gambling system they implemented. Whatever calculation you do in any kind of gambling games you can't say 100% your calculation is correct and you will win before the result comes out means something is missing that is called luck.

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Quote from: bajing on September 27, 2017, 07:14:30 AM

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know

this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

Math tells you three important things about your typical casino gambling:

1. When 2 sides play against each other until either of them is broke, the side with bigger bankroll is proportionally more likely to win. For example, if you will come to a casino with $1,000 in your wallet and their bankroll is $1,000,000 and you will keep playing without stopping, there's a 99.9% chance that you will lose your $1,000 (calculated at 0% house edge).

2. In random games like roulette or dice every bet is independent from any previous bet. If you had a losing streak it doesn't mean that your next bet will have more chances to win - they are always the same.

3. In the long run your net value should be approaching your expected value. In gambling expected value is negative because there's a house edge involved - there's a slight disbalance between your risk and payout.

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Quote from: CasinoLeisure.com on September 29, 2017, 08:41:48 PM

Yes, maths can help you win at some casino games. Like blackjack for example. If the conditions are good for the player, it is possible to use maths to turn the probability in the player's favour.

You can beat dealer only if you count cards, but you will probably get kicked out of casino.

Quote from: gekon on September 30, 2017, 05:42:42 AM

Maths could help you but not that much in sport bettings. Maths help you count the probability of some gambling like dice , roulette or mines. Cauuse their percent happen are 50:50. So you could find out how ricky you are playing at casinos gambling . In sport betting, you need to know more about Head to Head history, the form of that team . Much more things and it's complicated not like casino games.

Nonsense. Math can't help you to win dice roulette mines or any other luck based game.

Quote from: iram3130 on September 30, 2017, 02:33:30 PM

Math is everywhere. Most of the games are based on math, you need to have a little basic understanding otherwise you may lose big. But luck would be the most important factor in gambling.

Actually if you don't want to lose lots of money you have to gamble only with money you can afford to lose, you don't have to use math for that. Btw what do you mean lots of games are based on math? All games are based on math.

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Math is everywhere. Most of the games are based on math, you need to have a little basic understanding otherwise you may lose big. But luck would be the most important factor in gambling.

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Although Math won't increase your luck but it can reduce your losses and increase win chances with a good strategy. Some people discover new betting series, some do statistics and see their betting requirements, some calculate the bets to make while others the amount. But, at the end of the day, it all comes to how much luck you possess and how 'fair' the game really is.

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Quote from: FasTroy on September 30, 2017, 11:15:34 AM

Quote from: kidsuzudn on September 30, 2017, 07:57:22 AM

Mathetics did help you in gambling but only some ways only, it can not fully help you all. Cause it needs more knowledges about facts or some kinds of news. But the house give the odds basiclly depends on maths if you don't know. So if you find the right one that was given by the house, you can actually win much .

You are right, definitely math can help us in gambling, but not on all sections of gambling, I think it's on gambling games which depends only on luck, like dice..
If we have a good knowledge about probabilty, we can mastered more our bets, and we can increase our chance of win.

Probability would somehow be effective if luck would majorly within on our side.It does really affect but into those games which arent really fully relying on luck alone. Some people do really believe on this stuff which they do make use of those patterns or mathematical basis while they are playing but to think off that all results are pure random without any basis or patterns.

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Definitely mathematics can help to win in gambling, and here we're talking about statistics and probabilities that are directly related to those games.
Since all gambling games are based on these two sciences in order to guarantee the gain for the owner, however it is necessary to mention that this science is not easy to master at all.

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Quote from: imstillthebest on September 29, 2017, 11:28:39 PM

Quote from: bajing on September 27, 2017, 07:14:30 AM

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know

this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

i think no, because gambling is mostly depends on luck therefore what ever you do or what pattern and methods you use it wont still affect your game and wont increase your win rate. gambling has some numbers involved but its nothing related to math or whatever equation they can think of.

I think you are wrong, exactly gambling mainly depends on luck but there are also some games, math can affect the outcome of the game, the math here is probability and statistics. Especially games such as blackjack and sports betting, with blackjack if we can calculate the probability of cards that we can derive, we will easily win or talking about sports betting, historical statistics of the matches and winning percentage, we will have the best option, and our chances of winning will be higher

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Quote from: kidsuzudn on September 30, 2017, 07:57:22 AM

Mathetics did help you in gambling but only some ways only, it can not fully help you all. Cause it needs more knowledges about facts or some kinds of news. But the house give the odds basiclly depends on maths if you don't know. So if you find the right one that was given by the house, you can actually win much .

You are right, definitely math can help us in gambling, but not on all sections of gambling, I think it's on gambling games which depends only on luck, like dice..
If we have a good knowledge about probabilty, we can mastered more our bets, and we can increase our chance of win.

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Quote from: lexamagic on September 27, 2017, 07:44:55 AM

I do not think that using math or other predictions you can win in gambling, and especially in roulette. There everything is designed for pleasure, not profit.

I'm thinking about how math helps you in playing gambling, what is the connection if we play in this game in a gamble? It just seems like he has nothing to do with gambling just for you to win.

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Mathetics did help you in gambling but only some ways only, it can not fully help you all. Cause it needs more knowledges about facts or some kinds of news. But the house give the odds basiclly depends on maths if you don't know. So if you find the right one that was given by the house, you can actually win much .

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Maths help you to recognize and discern between +EV situations and -EV situations in whatever gambling game you are playing and thus helps you make profitable decisions and avoid putting yourself in non-profitable, losing spots.

Supplement your knowledge, skill, and intuition of a game with maths along with proper bankroll management and emotion control to give yourself the best chance at success.

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Quote from: Lykslyks on September 30, 2017, 04:56:48 AM

Quote from: lexamagic on September 27, 2017, 07:44:55 AM

I do not think that using math or other predictions you can win in gambling, and especially in roulette. There everything is designed for pleasure, not profit.

Me too, i don't think that math could help you win in gambling but it will be a help in making you decide on how much you will use as a bet to keep on playing longer and how much you will keep if ever you win. If you are good in math you can use it as a strategy in some ways if ever you have an idea on what strategy it is, but you can't use it as a prediction to win in a game. I don't think that gambling was just designed for pleasure cause most of the people risk their money even if there is no assurance to win to try their luck and earn more of what they have. It's just that gambling is not profitable in a long run.

Maths could help you but not that much in sport bettings. Maths help you count the probability of some gambling like dice , roulette or mines. Cauuse their percent happen are 50:50. So you could find out how ricky you are playing at casinos gambling . In sport betting, you need to know more about Head to Head history, the form of that team . Much more things and it's complicated not like casino games.

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Quote from: buyinbtc on September 29, 2017, 04:40:56 PM

I'm sure there are some blackjack and poker counting systems that might help you win... Might be possible that there are some in roulette and other games too, but i don't think that these popular ones are legit. Why would someone share strategy that lets them win money?

No one in this world doing charity work and everyone works for their profit. All those maths or calculations only help you to reduce your losses because even after doing so many calculations we can't say with confidence that we will win that game until we see the result because other person or a system might be better than you in doing calculations means we need some luck to win.

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Quote from: lexamagic on September 27, 2017, 07:44:55 AM

I do not think that using math or other predictions you can win in gambling, and especially in roulette. There everything is designed for pleasure, not profit.

Me too, i don't think that math could help you win in gambling but it will be a help in making you decide on how much you will use as a bet to keep on playing longer and how much you will keep if ever you win. If you are good in math you can use it as a strategy in some ways if ever you have an idea on what strategy it is, but you can't use it as a prediction to win in a game. I don't think that gambling was just designed for pleasure cause most of the people risk their money even if there is no assurance to win to try their luck and earn more of what they have. It's just that gambling is not profitable in a long run.

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Quote from: bajing on September 27, 2017, 07:14:30 AM

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know

this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

i think no, because gambling is mostly depends on luck therefore what ever you do or what pattern and methods you use it wont still affect your game and wont increase your win rate. gambling has some numbers involved but its nothing related to math or whatever equation they can think of.

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Quote from: michaelch on September 29, 2017, 09:26:55 PM

For sure it will. Gambling is all about mathematics and probability. Doesn't mean that every game can be won by maths alone though

It's not all about math, you also have to be strong to manage your emotion because although you are good in might but you are weak emotionally then for sure you will not gonna succeed. They are factors that are necessary for success and as a gambler we should master them together.

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For sure it will. Gambling is all about mathematics and probability. Doesn't mean that every game can be won by maths alone though

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