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September 28, 2017, 01:47:22 AM
#49
Depending on the games, while old blackjacks used to have 1/2 decks and then shuffling it was an easy way to count cards at that time, like the movie " 21 BlackJack, is a very good example of what doing good at maths can bring you playing life  hacks with them, the other game that I'm confident for my own experience are Poker based games, is all about blinds, positions and blinds despite the fact that this actually works pretty well for No Limit Holdem and Pot Limit Omaha the most.
If you are interested in getting in touch with Poker and became an EV+ player I can suggest you a few books to read and a few examples on how to start from the scratch, just pm me.

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September 27, 2017, 11:26:36 PM
#48
Math can help you to find you can't beat the house on long term, that is a great help, so yes, I agree that math helps gamblers in gambling.  Wink
Why would you employ a strategy in gambling games that has a house edge, they are definitely created just for entertainment.
If we are good in math we should also be good in choosing games where we can have an advantage and regardless of the games we choose it should be a skilled based games.
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September 27, 2017, 10:59:34 PM
#47
Math can help you to find you can't beat the house on long term, that is a great help, so yes, I agree that math helps gamblers in gambling.  Wink

last night i talk to my friend about using math in gambling. he said that it could be a way but we can not always win. there is still a chance for us to get big loss because the programs is design for making us to loss. but if somehow we can win the games, then he said its maybe our luck works best so we can win. he don't want to tell me more about how to use math to calculate the probability of our chance in dice game so he can win.
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September 27, 2017, 10:52:56 PM
#46
Math can help you to find you can't beat the house on long term, that is a great help, so yes, I agree that math helps gamblers in gambling.  Wink
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September 27, 2017, 06:48:46 PM
#45
I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

NO it will not, Math can be only use to calculate your earnings and lose but it cannot be use in gambling. In gambling if you have skills, talent and luck you will have the better chance of winnings. If using Math can guarantee their winnings they will be probably a millionaires now and everyone will follow their path thru mathematics.
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September 27, 2017, 05:38:51 PM
#44
This article doesn't state that you can win at roulette by using math, it says this at the end:

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We can dress up the layout of the wheel, the layout of the betting cloth, our number selection and our money management system however we like, but the maths is always there, quietly working against us. You might as well just have fun, pick random numbers and trust to Lady Luck. Either that, or do as Einstein suggested and steal chips (not that we’d recommend it).

So no, it's not possible to win at roulette just by using math.

For other games it's possible, but keep in mind that casino's are doing everything in their power to prevent you from doing so.
I'm thinking of blackjack specifically, they have security measures in place to prevent you from counting cards. If they even suspect you're doing this, they can ban you from the casino.

For pvp games like poker, you can effectively use math to gain an edge over other players though.

Even in pvp games like poker maths dont work because in this you have to just follow some strategy and have to observe the opposite player statistics and play according to it and you can win it.
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September 27, 2017, 05:09:57 PM
#43
I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

I preferably going to believe what Albert Einstein's said about winning a roulette. Let me skip this game, I have read a fact article that there was a math teacher that managed to win the lottery for four times. If you are going to study on how the process of the gambling game you are playing. It can help you to give some idea but it will never give you a guarantee that you'll win.

Agreed! Math can give us an idea on how to play the game. It can help us to treat our game as well. If for example, someone able to win at gambling by using math, I bet he/she can't do it at everytime. Gambling will always depend on luck no matter what method we use.
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September 27, 2017, 04:48:20 PM
#42
I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

I preferably going to believe what Albert Einstein's said about winning a roulette. Let me skip this game, I have read a fact article that there was a math teacher that managed to win the lottery for four times. If you are going to study on how the process of the gambling game you are playing. It can help you to give some idea but it will never give you a guarantee that you'll win.
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September 27, 2017, 04:38:06 PM
#41
Maths allow you to count or follow a logical process. You will not be using maths to win a game. You only will be using your brain, your tactics and strategies. Maths allow the brain to make it awake and quick to understand any situation. So, if you play a game, do not try to rely on what you have studied at school. Instead, rely on yourself and what you are capable of. You cannot use maths when you have no skills.
there's some people who gamble using math , at least they are doing some research on how math could have a big role to decide you have to win or lost. but yeah in the field you wouldn't have time to gamble mathematically , it's just the theory mostly not practically. i just doubt a lot of people can doing this. gamble always make you think it's just a random money game.
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September 27, 2017, 04:05:52 PM
#40
Actually your loss is mathematically bound (house edge) and only you can do is try to apply math to mitigate the chance of loss (but you will never eliminate it).

Agree. Mathematics can only mitigate your chance of losing and will not guarantee you a win every time. And we all suffer the same fate, a lost. And each spin is independent of the previous result so whatever math you applied in the long run, house edges takes over and the casino win. On the contrary, math will be always there, but the problem is, it is working against us. Just like the OP, I've been searching as well regarding applying Mathematics in roulette to my favor, unfortunately, I didn't find one up to now so I totally give up and just formulate my own strategy, math makes it to complex, I just bet what I feel like and its much easier for me.
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September 27, 2017, 03:59:58 PM
#39
I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

So far its gambling, you can only have a chance at wining and not an absolute one. No matter the level of you mathematics, it can only streamline and give your chances and not make you win the moment there is a house edge, it cannot be 1 and that little chance, is enough for one to lose. And even with all the calculation, one can still be rigged out which means the whole of the mathematics knowledge is rendered useless due to human element.
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September 27, 2017, 03:40:28 PM
#38
Actually your loss is mathematically bound (house edge) and only you can do is try to apply math to mitigate the chance of loss (but you will never eliminate it).
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September 27, 2017, 03:30:23 PM
#37
Maths allow you to count or follow a logical process. You will not be using maths to win a game. You only will be using your brain, your tactics and strategies. Maths allow the brain to make it awake and quick to understand any situation. So, if you play a game, do not try to rely on what you have studied at school. Instead, rely on yourself and what you are capable of. You cannot use maths when you have no skills.
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September 27, 2017, 02:44:58 PM
#36
No mate, there is no such maths calculation which will help you to win in the gambling. Its totally depends upon the size of your bank roll, your luck and the risk which you are willing to take.  People should play for the enjoyment and if they can not afford to loose the money then they should stay away from the gambling.
Maths can improve your income counting but will never let you win because maths is just use for mathematician and formula where in gambling there is not even a single word of formula.
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September 27, 2017, 02:34:49 PM
#35
I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

If math can help us in the roulette, then casino will go bankrupt once the player apply those mathematical calculations. So you will just make things complicated on your end. You will also need to know that those math calculation involves finding a biased roulette machine. They will took advantage and calculate the probability of landing to a particular number in a biased machine. So its not only math, but physics itself. So you see, its makes thing complex for most of us gamblers and we don't want to take that route either. Roulette are based on pure luck alone and if you involved math and physics, might end up losing more because you are trying to apply it to a play which is based on luck.
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September 27, 2017, 02:12:58 PM
#34
I thing math can help you predict the "possible" result of the  roll.  But it would be a complex method to calculate it and lots of rooms for error.  And one wrong variable the calculation will go wrong.   So people tend to neglect the math and go with their instinct.. Gambling result is based on some inside calculation that result in random numbers so if a person cracked the patter of calculation, he will be able to win all bets.
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September 27, 2017, 02:03:10 PM
#33
It can gambling is mostly based on calculations if you remember there was a news that russian gamblers sent live feed to hackers and they told them when they should place their bet like this they had made 50000$ and there is maths also involved in this if you know the right equation it can help you otherwise it's of no use
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September 27, 2017, 01:51:34 PM
#32
Learning maths is the best thing you can do if you already gamble. If most gamblers learned maths they would lose less, that’s for sure.

I don’t agree with the view of the article when it says that maths work against us because when you understand maths involved in gambling you can make better bets. In a sense, they work against us in gambling because casino games are EV-. However, even if you understand the maths and know that some games are EV- you can still play.

For example, I know that playing the lottery is an EV- game. But for 2€ I can get up to 100 million €. 2€ every now and then is nothing for me and if I hit the jackpot it will change my life. What doesn’t make sense, however is to try too hard in those EV- games, like someone spending too much money buying lottery tickets.
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September 27, 2017, 01:07:34 PM
#31
Hack the gambling website and you will win a lot. That is the only way.
You cannot control it but they can.
As said with the article. You can just have fun and let lady luck do its job. Lucky for those who have won a lot and been in a gambling site for once then come out a rich man. After that, i might not get back but lady luck is not on my side.
I only do math in dice where I count the number of my loss then maybe that would also be the number of my win next roll so i increase the bet.
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September 27, 2017, 12:50:24 PM
#30
I do not think that maths calculations can help you win in gambling.
Because gambling depends only on one's fortune.
If you consider gambling a top priority to earn a lot of money, i think you should leave gambling immediately, because i think gambling just for fun is not a top priority to make a lot of money.
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