Topic: Can the casino control whether the user wins or loses? - page 2. (Read 1005 times)

Most of the casino or betting site highly frown it from their system as it looks more like a cheating, if found both accounts could be freezed for having multiple accounts operated in one casino. And of course he is lucky maybe next he wouldn't be surprised that there will be no winning anymore rather losses.

And it is done either more clearly visible or done so smoothly that users are not aware that they are under the control of the casino owner who can control their winnings very naturally it seems. Because moreover it is an online casino, where we as users only use the site outside and follow all the TOS and follow the flow of gambling or betting. while they? they have access to everything in gambling, so, it is not impossible that they can.

it's just that it may not be done openly and continuously. it could be arranged according to the pattern and considerations of the casino. but maybe the arrangement cannot be done in all branches of betting or gambling, because there are skill based games and also prediction games. it's just that, this doesn't mean that the casino owner can easily provide continuous wins.

In theory an internet casino has everything on their side of they decided to break the law and start to rip off their gamblers by manipulating their sessions, so they can get all the money, sure, but there are mechanism set in place so that is very unlikely to happen or even impossible to happen. Instead of trusting devious and small casinos (which are the least reliable) you can go for casinos which have a verifiable track record and also include games which are provably fair (or even better, completely open source).

Only because you had a good luck streak with your new account on some casino it does not mean they are cheating on you and playing dirty, keep in mind human beings are designed to try to find explanations to phenomena which they cannot initially explain, that is your case, you are trying to associate two different things: new accounts and good luck; but they do not have any direct relation, at least in a casino which plays fairly, they do not.

Lots of shady casino act like that this why we must choose the casino we play. Since if their fairness is questionable then provably that there's instances that they provably manipulate the results since scam always want the favor goes to them and they don't want their costumers to win.

So more best for people is to choose to regulated and trusted casino since those manipulation of result they think provably not going to happen in legit casinos. That's why sometimes I doubt to try new casino especially those obvious ones who present shitty ann thread here, I'm skeptical on everything especially if they didn't impress me in first glance.

The frustration that comes with loosing after having a series of wins especially on a new account is very understandable and enough to think the casino has got a hand in your losses at some point and sadly the fairness behind these games cannot be completely verified and it sounds like a challenge at some point but the truth is at some point the casino isn't actively controlling these things as they are automatically generated with edges that favors the house the most and speaking from experience i had with a friend we tried it using same casino with different account and we could see the difference in the result.

Of course you can, but only in casinos that don't treat their customers fairly. Large casinos that have a good reputation with millions of customers will definitely avoid this behavior for their customers, but not casinos that only want money from their customers. I've seen videos about how casinos cheat their customers by controlling each user's winnings, but maybe not with well-known, reputable casinos like the ones on this forum.

The casino in question is a casino that may not be regulated by any party. They operate illegally with only the trust of a few customers and not much capital support, but along the way they don't really treat their customers fairly.

That's just it, gamblers trying to trick a house designed not be deceived. It's scary to work on strategies that could restrict withdrawals in future. Despite the method being unguaranteed, it's worthless, because the casino is in the business to profit. They don't run charity organizations, so, minor tweaks easily get noticed, and nothing worthwhile comes with persisting to win the house. Moreover, gamblers who use a single account still win lots of money. Hence, no alternate route is better than staying real and wagering with good strategies.

When I think about this hypothesis impartially, I find it obvious that the casino system provides settings to facilitate monitoring of users' activities, which is necessary to track manipulation attempts. At the same time, it is not possible to predict whether they can influence the voluntary behavior of users using these features. There is a question that most of us must have thought about one day, which is whether the competing players in the poker game are real people with personal accounts or are they fake accounts affiliated with the casino. At the same time, I convince myself that this never happens because I have not heard of any cases of cheating of this type being discovered.
Only game developers can answer these questions, but they will never reveal their secrets if they really do because they benefit from it.
I am still following this topic to see if anyone has more accurate information.

This is why it is good we gamble at hold casino if we really wants to be safe from getting our account locked because of consistent winnings. There are some casinos that will not waste time closing your account or accusing you of going against their teams and conditions just because you have been making consistent profits from them believing that you are a cheat and could make them go bankruptcy if they don't take a strict measures to send you away. We should not also forget that casino are I to business because they want to be making profits from gamblers but the contrary might happens when a particular gambler keep making consistent profits from the casino.

Some shady casinos may have that kind of operations pattern that their always follow and this way their works on their victims, but in most time their will hand you out a few first winning to get you tied down, but even at that, we haven't seen many cryptocurrency casinos having such methods of operations before now unless for casinos like 1xbits who practice such a thing too, and their own is aimed at deceiving the player to deposit large amount of money before blocking their accounts, but many reputable cryptocurrency casinos won't engage in such thing since their will have a reputation to protect and a community to build at the same time, and that is why it based on your luck to be able to win your first few game's because the casino have nothing to do with your engagement on the site unless in game's that have House edges which is specifically spelt out in the terms and conditions of the casino.

Really year of account creation have nothing to do with winning, and the only time that your account year and amount wagered have any benefits is when there is a bonus to claim at the end of the month and those bonus you still will have to use them on the casino to play the same games which you may either lose or win depending on your luck at that time, but the casino at the other hand have nothing to do with your winning possibility.

The step you had made just proves out that there's no way that this could be real about having that new accounts will be likely to be able to hit up some win or in constant manner or simply
it shows that it is really that a working method. If this one really works then people would be abusing it but basing up on what you have done then this do really shows that it doesnt work at all
and everything would really be that according into someones luck and this had always be the determining factor specially when you do deal up with luck based or casino games on which this is really that
fully relying on luck. Doesnt matter whether you are making use of a new account or old ones, odds or chances would really be just that the same and this is something that you should put up into your mind.

Apart from time (I.e when you joined and how old is your account ),  the winning counts can also be part of it... I don't know how it works though but there could be other factor influencing the win, it doesn't necessarily need to be mapped to  how long an account is being registered,it can be mapped to other factors which are unknown and at same time you could get lucky to hit what you want but just know they are not stupid if you  start creating multiple accounts just to get the early win advantages, they might just have neglect the profit you made because it might not be a huge one but if you win huge, your accounts might be questioned.

As time goes by, yes, I am also quite sure that the casino will find out that the new accounts that register are old users, I don't know what the casino can do to identify this, but of course they are quite smart in terms of investigating and maybe tracking the IP or internet server can be one of their ways.
Sometimes I also do that, in the sense of trying to create a new account with the aim of trying to get a win like other people, but I still don't get the win even though I have made several deposits, and that fact eliminates my interest in continuing to use this method to get a win with a new account, but it is also possible that I am really far from luck.

Yes, by restricting its account, there are casinos that do this; worse is, they create a case against you like a violation of their terms, but it only happens on dubious casinos, so better check your casino if they have users who suffered from such restrictions, because you could be the next one.

It only happens if the casino is manipulated, but if the casino is reputable, everyone on the casino has an equal chance.

You are actually lucky that you register at a casino and win the first few games. But this is not the case for everyone as i lost all bets on the first day. But after a few days i won repeated games and my losses came back. But there i lost several times which made me realize that gambling is all about luck. A casino is not for a player who has to play with everyone's luck, because he is relatively new to that casino. But my account was never closed because my winning amount is less But whenever you win the big bet game and the amount is high, the casino will turn against you.

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Nah, I don't believe in RNG when it comes to other casinos, only I think it with international reputable ones. Stake.com is one without any doubt.
But, there is this local gambling site in our country that seems like they are making a big mistake in what they do with their system. It's too obvious. If you win, you will feel that something is being dragged back to the online casino because you won't win a good spin at a lot of rounds and it's like every profit you made is being sucked into a blackhole without a fighting chance.
So, I do agree that we must stick with the reputable ones because they are proven and tested. They can give even if you didn't lose much and they can take even if you are in the process of losing.
I like that more because it says how unpredictable a gambling site can be.

So far we have not seen much evidence if casinos can manage the losses or wins of their users, but realistically and from a business point of view, of course, the bookmaker will not want to lose , so indeed we also can't say if the casino will also be very honest with its players so far , but so far I have seen some friends who are involved in gambling they actually have a very small percentage to be able to win because systems that may has been manipulated by such casino platforms, but it is important to always play in legitimate and licensed online casinos in order to ensure that the games we play are fair and not manipulated, according to some sources I have read, legitimate casinos use RNG (Random Number Generator) technology which is regularly audited to ensure the fairness of the games, and One of the casinos that currently uses RNG is the Stake platform which does prioritize fair games without being controlled by anyone.

Well, I think it's possible for a casino to control how often a player win/lose and we (the player) can not verify if the result was fair or not because there is no feature by the casino that is provided to verify if a player's result for a casino game is fair or not.

Secondly, I suspect that newly created casino account usually have the luck of getting more win than loses. When I first signed up on stake casino, my first time of playing baccarat was more of winning experience compare to other sessions of playing after a few days of registering.

Yeah, online casinos have a lot of ways to track us down, as far as I know they have a fraud department that really looks for each and new account. And see if they are somewhat really playing normal, or there are some behavorial pattern that can established. Or if by luck, this new account keeps on winning, then for sure the eyes of casinos will be after that account. If they are so called provably fair then they can't control whether the user win or loses. But who knows, there are casinos in that past that was accused of colluding in a table, like in a black jack, wherein the user reported that it seems that all other players are from the casino itself because he seldom wins. So we might not have enough evidence and proof that casinos might also cheating us.

If you can properly disguise each new account as a new user, you may be able to behave like a newbie. But I know for sure that the casino has monitored the actions of players that look like "suspicious activity" and "the same behavioral action." One day you will be blocked, and it won't be easy to register in this casino again. For such players as "bonus hunters," the casino regularly updates its equipment to prevent game manipulation. But yes, there is an observation that newbies are lucky, although the winnings can be much greater if you are a regular player from one account.