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legendary
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My idea is that questions of this kind about the integrity of the casino system can only be issued by people who do not know how to develop control systems to be as honest as required or they are people who have not reviewed the history of online casinos because no manipulation or fraud has ever been discovered on this basis. Of course, this is to the best of my knowledge and I hope to be corrected if I am wrong
Oh okay mate. No worry, Im just kinda asking if ever an issue with this kind has been wandered off forum already or proven existed. You are right, its quite hard to imagine if casino would go to this extent to defraud some users, but we may never know since were living off crypto whose fraud really existed at various level which we may perceive totally.
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Just know that you were only lucky with the new account. Casinos are designed for two reasons which are the casino to make money and the second is for the gamblers to have fun.
the reason why Casino is being made is for you to make profit and also for you to lose in perspecting in Casino because when you win in Casino the platform of the casino is the one losing and it is clear that there are not going to be okay with your winning but when you loses in Casino they make a profit because it is the reason why they created such, there's nobody who is into casino gambling that is participating in Casino because of fun out of 100% of people who participated in Casino gambling 89% of them is gambling in order to make a profit why 11% is gambling to catch one so when you calculate the percentage you will see that the total number of people who is looking for profit is higher than the people who is gambling because of of fun
The two reasons why i think the Casino is made up for is for them to make money and for the gamblers to stand a chance of making money. Standing a chance is like 55% assurance of making money while gambling the remaining 45% is the possibility of losing while gambling. Obviously the Casino made it in a way where everyday they must be in profit. And for gamblers in the platform, only few wins in a day and few losses in a day.

It wasn't made for fun so don't mind what Oshosondy was saying. The gamblers are the ones who choses to have fun while gambling. Since its an activity and everyone has the right to chose what they want to do with it. Most persons prefer to make money with the Casino which is the primary feature while some loves to have fun, while playing the Casino games.
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Why do most gamblers think the casino is responsible for gambling lose meanwhile it’s just a game we play and expect an unpredictable result. If we should all blame any casino then it simply means we can’t trust all casino, no doubt new gamblers feel lucky always at first even when they encounter some lose they’re blinded by their previous win so i don’t expect any  complain, secondly a new account still doesn’t matter because a lose is garantee afterwards. What I experienced lately relating to gambling lose include the cash out option also most condition the casino give is unnecessary during times we’re sure of winning.
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It is important to note that a casino is a business and I still believe that those who set up a casino of course it is for profit only by giving hiburang to its users to gamble in the casino that they run so in this case of course there is a control even though it may not be too bad because it still gives a win but in the end we know that we as players are just looking for fun as a starting pattern even though we do expect luck as well as to get profit. but for the casino the goal is clearly to do business, although it does expect luck also to get profit.
 
But for casinos the goal is clearly to do business, and talking about business then of course profit is something they are aiming for so even though they apply it fairly where there are some terms and conditions imposed but of course gambling controls are all the same where the bookie will always win compared to the player.
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Just know that you were only lucky with the new account. Casinos are designed for two reasons which are the casino to make money and the second is for the gamblers to have fun.
the reason why Casino is being made is for you to make profit and also for you to lose in perspecting in Casino because when you win in Casino the platform of the casino is the one losing and it is clear that there are not going to be okay with your winning but when you loses in Casino they make a profit because it is the reason why they created such, there's nobody who is into casino gambling that is participating in Casino because of fun out of 100% of people who participated in Casino gambling 89% of them is gambling in order to make a profit why 11% is gambling to catch one so when you calculate the percentage you will see that the total number of people who is looking for profit is higher than the people who is gambling because of of fun
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The ability for a gambler to win or lose in off the limit of what the casino can control, we are the ones in charge of our games we played, the way we play them and what pattern to use in playing, if it turned to be in our favour, then we win, but when luck isn't on our side, then so also the game and so on, all the casino do is to provide us with the service for us to make our decision on how to safely play in other to satisfy our want.
There is such an expression: beginners are lucky. Most often, those who have just created a new account think that luck is on their side today, in part it is, but this is a banal coincidence and it is in no way connected with the fact that this is a new account. Of the conditional new 100 accounts, 90 will be lucky, the rest will be in the black, and there is no clear dynamics and it is impossible to trace this, in the long run the game provider will always be in the black.
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If they can manipulate and let you win or lose on purpose then no one will use that since there is no fair process. Im surr most casinos are designed with an impact to profit but they must also give users a fair chance to win.
Definitely no casino will be that so greedy of not allowing participants to win but only lose, of course that will be injustice. Gambling is always two sided which is win and loose but the fact still remain that no matter how it tends to be losing must always take the Leed.

Casino games is not like a normal sports game were someone will be watching and betting on live match, so any gambler who did not win as they expected shouldn't feel that the Casino is the reason why they have not, what I usually observed about their style of gambling is that they will setup the games in such a way that the wining chances will be the same as the losing chances, so the best way is to go for games you are use to in betting because in as much as casino games involves luck but their are people who normally took their time to study it because their games can sometimes replay and it could happen that they normally bring the same game twice a week so if the person is able to study and understand when it usually comes you will be making a lot of wining and by then they will no that there are way that make it easy for them, that's just what I observed.
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can the casino control the user account that keeps winning?

let's say I play dice

I have won more than 10 X my initial capital, and I just registered a casino account

so my question is
can the casino control the wins and losses of its users?

I lost streak 70X in a row in dice, with a profit result of 1.13

I think it doesn't make sense because 88% luck, then I tried with a new account again and it turned out to win again, finally I withdrew everything and left the casino.

does a new account have a greater chance of winning?

Unless there is some "provably fair" mechanism built into a game, then casinos absolutely can engineer the backend to do whatever they need. They can monitor and build algorithms that can take advantage of every different aspect of your game, even tailoring the response back to the balance that you have in your account - they might give you 9 out of 10 parts needed to complete a side game, but drain your wallet without letting you unlock the extra bit, knowing that most people would top up their account to keep playing and get that last 1 in unlock the side game. Unless you have full visibility of the code or a reliable third party can vet it, you have zero knowledge on what they are really doing behind the scenes. That being said, casinos don't need to cheat - they are full up front that you will lose all your money over time and people still play.
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so my question is
can the casino control the wins and losses of its users?

I lost streak 70X in a row in dice, with a profit result of 1.13

I think it doesn't make sense because 88% luck, then I tried with a new account again and it turned out to win again, finally I withdrew everything and left the casino.

does a new account have a greater chance of winning?
If we were to be well aware of that information, then there would be no reason for betting on casino games isn’t it.

Well, there are means to proving a fair game but to do that effectively, you’ve got to have the know how and know exactly what your doing, what to expect and a lot of times, gamblers don’t know that.

If it’s become of great concern that you should, then the means to proving a fair games in casinos games should be something you should look at and test it on the games you play to know what’s going on. Even then, there are still doubts but, you’ve just got to believe some how.
legendary
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They can, but in most cases they aren't doing it and there are many reasons for it.

-they use provably fair system
-this is against the law, it's actually a fraud if you can prove it and could not only cause them to lose license and clients, but also possibly put them in jail
-they can win anyway because they get their money back in the long run
-the real money for the casino is in the long game and cheating someone on $5 dice roll doesn't make sense when you paid a million to promote your site.

Maybe some small casinos located in Asia would do such things, but just avoid them and game with the big players.
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If we talk about regulated casinos I don't think that they can control how a gambler wins or loses that easily, because regulated casinos are supervised by certain authorities and require them to comply with certain standards - but it is more about the algorithm that they design in the game and I believe that the algorithm is more in their favor than the gambler and that makes them profitable in the long run. And in your case I am sure that it is a casino that is not so popular, because of how easy it is for you to create a new account and make withdrawals without any restrictions from the casino and how easy it is for you to find a loophole to play there.

You're mistaken if you think that casinos that are regulated or licensed are thoroughly checked by authorities to determine whether they are cheating their players or not, they barely care about gamblers or whether they are being cheated or not, the regulations and licenses are mostly for them to tax the casinos or the players that stay on the top of the lists for winning big or maybe wagering a lot of money.

A casino that doesn't have a provably fair system for users to check their bets isn't trustworthy, in my opinion. They need to have this system so that players can check the bets made on original games to check the authenticity of the casino and whether the results are actually randomly generated or they are rigged.

When it comes to games by game providers, I guess it depends on each provider and a gambler should only play games from providers that they think wouldn't cheat them.
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can the casino control the user account that keeps winning?

let's say I play dice

I have won more than 10 X my initial capital, and I just registered a casino account

so my question is
can the casino control the wins and losses of its users?

I lost streak 70X in a row in dice, with a profit result of 1.13

I think it doesn't make sense because 88% luck, then I tried with a new account again and it turned out to win again, finally I withdrew everything and left the casino.

does a new account have a greater chance of winning?

A casino is a commercial organization. The goal of any commercial organization is to make a profit. Accordingly, any casino strives to make a profit.

Initially, organizing gambling is a profitable type of business activity (this is how the system functions). Sometimes players win, sometimes players lose. In general, this does not harm the financial result of the casino.

However, there are situations when one of the players has an abnormally long series of wins. I think that in such situations (especially in situations where the winnings are significant amounts of money), the casino management system receives a signal about an abnormal situation. Each casino (probably) has its own security service (because there is a need to track cases of fraud on the part of users).

If the investigation reveals that the abnormally long series of winnings of a casino client is not related to fraud, then no action will be taken (since sooner or later a long series of winnings of a casino client will be replaced by a series of losses - this is inevitable).
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can the casino control the user account that keeps winning?

let's say I play dice

I have won more than 10 X my initial capital, and I just registered a casino account

so my question is
can the casino control the wins and losses of its users?

I lost streak 70X in a row in dice, with a profit result of 1.13

I think it doesn't make sense because 88% luck, then I tried with a new account again and it turned out to win again, finally I withdrew everything and left the casino.

does a new account have a greater chance of winning?
Everything is really just that a coincidence if we do speak about winning up on a new account because there's no such thing that it would really be that a solid indication or thing that makes you a winner
and this is really just something that cant be proved out. Somehow if we do speak about manipulating results then it is really indeed possible with these platforms on which it is really that something that
could really be happening but of course there's no way that we can be able to point out our fingers that they've been that doing that. Good thing if you do able to make wins on newly registered account
because there's no way that it could happen anytime or would really be effective. If this one turns out to be an repetitive thing for you then you can grind it out.  Grin

Dice games and other casino based ones are something that been created for its gamblers to lose in longer runs. There's no way that you could really be able to make yourself get out
on winning out games in constant manner. House would really be always at advantage and this is something that you must consider.
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I don't know for sure, but I think it is possible that the casino can control your gambling activity but not all the time, because I have experienced several incidents where when I managed to win in a row in several games that were going very well and when I withdrew 70% of the winnings and left 30% to play again, it turned out that in the next game after I made a withdrawal I saw that every game was going very badly and I lost the 30% in a very short time.

That makes me think that it seems that the casino knows that I have won in a row because I submitted a withdrawal, the withdrawal action is like a bell that calls their staff to look at my gambling account and then they change the game algorithm to be bad, I often experience this where when I have made a withdrawal all the games turn out to be very bad, and maybe this is also the reason why you managed to win again using a new account, because it is an account that is most likely not recognized by the casino, they consider you a new user so they give you a number of wins which are intended to make new users continue to play.
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Losing 70 times in a row, fu*k no what were you trying to catch >96<100...you know how gambling is, if the odds are stacked against you then chances are that you will not win, but if you are going to play a 1.01 kind of game then for sure you are playing to win, but risk is too high for the reward you are potentially chasing which shows you are gambling.

As of the casino controlling the game, we'll maybe if the games are developed by them then there is a chance of this happening but that could destroy their reputation so why risk it..and FYI you are not alone that thought these guys choose who should win and who shouldn't  Tongue but all in all it's a game of chance.
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The ability for a gambler to win or lose in off the limit of what the casino can control, we are the ones in charge of our games we played, the way we play them and what pattern to use in playing, if it turned to be in our favour, then we win, but when luck isn't on our side, then so also the game and so on, all the casino do is to provide us with the service for us to make our decision on how to safely play in other to satisfy our want.
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Whenever you win a casino game it's based on luck, there are no strategies or ways to guarantee Profit. The house always controls the outcome of every round, users win or losses are programmed or controlled by the casino. I took out time to study the crash game on 1x bet, it's programmed in such a way that you can see the cumulative amount played by every user and the total amount won on each round, I observed carefully and I noticed that the amount won isn't even close to what the Casinos are making, it's really a rigged and losing game.
Casino games are run on a program or script. No one can guarantee when an account will win and how many odds it will win.  This is why gambling is said to depend on luck. Especially slots games, crash these cannot be controlled by any user.  Nor can any user predict his winnings. But in some games, if you have a long experience, you can win by making some good predictions.  They are more effective in spotsbetting. However, no casino game can ever be predicted with a guarantee.  They are complete programs and run depending on certain algorithms
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If you're not comfortable with the result, I will advise you to avoid the casino since you have already withdrawn everything, but I don't think the casino is controlling the outcome of your game result.
Probably he has just started to gamble would be the reason he thinks the casino is manipulating. The first time I gambled on a reputed gambling site, I later thought that they manipulated. I moved to another reputed site and the same thing happened. I moved to another one and the same thing again. My thinking changed because they are all the same. If he can let us know the casino name, we can still recommend him to continue using it but he posted that he has two accounts already which might lead to something not good for him. I hope he will be reading gambling sites ToS before gambling because I am sure that the gambling site will not allow their customers to have multiple accounts.
Of course I have read the TOS, I know what I did was wrong, and could harm my account, but have you ever thought about the cheating done by the casino that you don't know? and yes don't trust anyone on the internet
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The idea that casinos can predict when a particular player will win or lose is a misconception, and is based on flawed theories about how online gaming works.
I have my fair share of opinion of that on earlier page of this topic. But can I ask if you think that there are platforms or gambling sites that has been reported in scam site or reputation that has been known to do this kind of manipulation already? Or has been proved guilty of this theory on fairness.

I am afraid you misunderstood my opinion since English is not my first or second language and therefore some usages may not succeed in clarifying my opinion accurately. My idea is that questions of this kind about the integrity of the casino system can only be issued by people who do not know how to develop control systems to be as honest as required or they are people who have not reviewed the history of online casinos because no manipulation or fraud has ever been discovered on this basis. Of course, this is to the best of my knowledge and I hope to be corrected if I am wrong.

It is not in the interest of any casino to build its system on the basis of manipulation because this can lose the team's credibility in addition to the development cost of that. Also, there are many ways that the casino can influence players to stay longer on the site and thus increase the deposit rates.
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can the casino control the user account that keeps winning?

let's say I play dice

I have won more than 10 X my initial capital, and I just registered a casino account

so my question is
can the casino control the wins and losses of its users?

I lost streak 70X in a row in dice, with a profit result of 1.13

I think it doesn't make sense because 88% luck, then I tried with a new account again and it turned out to win again, finally I withdrew everything and left the casino.

does a new account have a greater chance of winning?

It seems that some casinos may resort to this move, where they will first give the player a chance to win, so that he plays more boldly, but with several new accounts it can be difficult if verification is required for withdrawal, then it will not work. I have heard about this before that the casino can do this, but I did not want to check.
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