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legendary
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If we start thinking that the casino is cheating, we might end up blaming them for all our losses. But such accusations are hard to prove unless it’s an illegal casino. However, for big, reputable casinos, that’s highly unlikely. If we really understand how things work, a casino is just like any other business—it makes money not by cheating gamblers but because that's simply how it works. Some win, and some lose.

If we truly believe we’re being cheated, then there’s no reason to keep playing, right? But that’s not the case, and many people still trust casinos, which is why they continue to gamble.
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Your question sounds like you’re doubting the casino, because if I ask myself the same thing, I’d easily say no. But if I believed the casino was rigged, then the answer would be yes. Casinos have a house edge, and there's the concept of provably fair games to ensure fairness, but losing streaks are normal.

That’s why it’s important to be realistic and not assume your belief in your winning chances will always play out, because at the end of the day, gambling is like a guessing game, more correct guesses, you win. It’s that simple.

No need to overthink it, just try to stay realistic. With the house edge, no matter how small, you’ll eventually lose in the long run.
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So you think they can't control it right? letting their users play fair, sometimes i also think like you said i just got lucky, but on the other hand, every casino i tried got a bigger chance of winning with a new account, but i don't know i took it too seriously

I get your point but the thing is, it's not like they can control users account on the chances of wins and loss but they have designed their casionos games to be fair enough to balance up with their demands and that of the users as well, so when you lose they are at great gain and when you make a win they are definitely on a loss as well so I think this is how the casino is being programed.but for getting a higher chances of winning for a new user I think it's just their way of welcoming you to the trend.
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Just know that you were only lucky with the new account. Casinos are designed for two reasons which are the casino to make money and the second is for the gamblers to have fun.
so you think they can't control it right? letting their users play fair, sometimes i also think like you said i just got lucky, but on the other hand, every casino i tried got a bigger chance of winning with a new account, but i don't know i took it too seriously
It's just coincidence, casino can't choose or restrict users from winning while they can do some restriction like max winning amount that is only to save themselves from getting bankruptcy. Also you can check the fairness of game/result using any of the provably fairness tools with the client seed and the server seed that you can find after the bet that determines whether the results are predetermined or not.
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does a new account have a greater chance of winning?
I'm sure you know that dice is a game based on luck. And if you get a winning streak, it's your day.

And regarding whether the casino can control the user's wins and losses, I will answer that the casino is just a place to have fun to try your luck. Well, all this means that no casino wants to give a large amount of money to its users without getting any profit. Maybe from here we can understand how the casino works.
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Just know that you were only lucky with the new account. Casinos are designed for two reasons which are the casino to make money and the second is for the gamblers to have fun.
so you think they can't control it right? letting their users play fair, sometimes i also think like you said i just got lucky, but on the other hand, every casino i tried got a bigger chance of winning with a new account, but i don't know i took it too seriously
I've heard of similar claims about how new accounts have bigger chances of winnings but there's no proof to these claims. I believe that casino wins are by luck, it doesn't matter if it's a new account or old, wins and loses can happen at the time you're playing. Ofcourse we can't deny the house edge factor, but I believe that it cuts across every accounts whether it's old or new. Generally gamblers loses more than what they win on the long run and that is why the casinos are still in business. So it's left for gamblers to know these things and gamble responsibly by using the amount that they can afford to loose.
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can the casino control the user account that keeps winning?
Some casinos are restricting that account. You know casinos are business platforms; they will stop users from draining their funds. Some dubious casinos even accuse these users of cheating just to stop them from draining their funds. 1XBit is so notorious on this; they let you lose but stop you when you keep winning.

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... I tried with a new account again and it turned out to win again, finally I withdrew everything and left the casino.
does a new account have a greater chance of winning?
This is not proven because if this is the case then newly launched casinos will eventually lose their capital and close their platform; its just a coincidence; even old timers and those who play the second time are likely to win if luck hits them, unless the casino is manipulating the result and there's a report of manipulation.
legendary
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I hope this is not another "I have lost because I think casino cheat with results" kind of topic. I think the answer for OP question does not exist. Gambling community if full of stories when casinos have cheated, casinos banned me for winning, casinos have done this and that. Truth, rumours and fake are so mixed together, that its impossible to find right answer today. Nobody will tell truth. Casinos will never admit they have cheated. Gambler will never accept that they have lost fairly, and will always blame someone or something.
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so my question is
can the casino control the wins and losses of its users?
They can do it if they wish especially if there is no provably fair system on the game.
This might be done by scammer who want to make money easily by creating a casino, so always be careful when you want to pick a casino to gamble.

does a new account have a greater chance of winning?
It can be said as a myth or even gambler fallacy, your account has nothing to do with luck because luck is unpredictable.
I know there are still many gamblers who believe that new account will give better result but in fact it is just a coincidence and pure luck.
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If the casino or the platform which you are using to place your bets does not have a provably fair method or a way to prove that the roll was random, then they can surely manipulate your chance of winning or losing any game even if it's dice. The biggest casinos in the space are using these methods and that's why people trust them and use it. So if there's a provably fair system running, you can be sure that the casino can't control your odds.
I agree with what you said but I do not agree with your last sentence which states that if there's a provably fair system running, you can be sure that the casino can't control your odds. If the games are not provably fair, it is done through manipulation and the manipulation is in the game and not the odd. The odd can be like other casino odds but the game is manipulated.
I also think so, there is no system that applies fairly in any casino that favors one's bets to control losses and wins but a system with manipulation in every game. In every betting game, there may be manipulation that occurs with the system so that there is an opportunity for participants to win the game and I have never known that a fair system existed in that game.
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can the casino control the user account that keeps winning?
No one knows but I think if it's provably fair game, that would not be possible as it's verifiable publicly as far as I know, I maybe wrong as well in this statement.

does a new account have a greater chance of winning?
I've been with new account before but chances are slim when it comes to winning. So, this really doesn't prove anything.
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can the casino control the user account that keeps winning?

let's say I play dice

I have won more than 10 X my initial capital, and I just registered a casino account

so my question is
can the casino control the wins and losses of its users?

I lost streak 70X in a row in dice, with a profit result of 1.13

I think it doesn't make sense because 88% luck, then I tried with a new account again and it turned out to win again, finally I withdrew everything and left the casino.


Casino can control the outcome of the game if the game itself is not provably fair or transparent with their code. This is why you should only play on casino that has provably fair system to guarantee that everything is fair.

Casino with provably fair system can’t control the outcome of the game since the result is pure random based on the code setup on the game. The only way to manipulate the outcome if the game can’t be verified the game hash.

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does a new account have a greater chance of winning?
This is just a myth. The answer is NO.
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does a new account have a greater chance of winning?
If you observe that a casino gives preference to a newly registered account over old ones it might be an indication that the games are not fair. Giving greater chances to new accounts shows that it is a preplanned move to attract new customers. I wouldn't be loyal to such a casino. But it can also backfire since people will just keep registering new accounts to exploit the system. But if you have such an experience playing in a reputable casino, I will guess that it was just a coincidence.

Generally, new accounts are prioritized to hold the player down in the casino, so that after winning in just few minutes of membership, he'd spend more money. No, it won't back fire, the house is aware of all that, and such method could result to those account getting banned.
So you are insinuating that casinos use different algorithms for new accounts? You might be correct because some casinos can do anything to attract new bettors. However, besides bonuses and other open benefits given to new accounts to make them loyal, any other strategy might be unfair. People can always seek means to outsmart casinos; even KYC information can be bought or fake, so this strategy can be exploited.
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does a new account have a greater chance of winning?

I don't think so. What I think with new account is luck, such luck which the old account would have also gotten in the past.

So what I believe is that it is the measurement of luck that a user have whether old or new account that operates. And moreover, talking about house edge, that is the advantage over luck. luck is not realistic, not trusted and shouldn't be relied on for wins because the number of loses against lucky winning is higher in favour of losses. So, a casino doesn't really need to manipulate players out because a player's chances of winning is always lesser than winning. Therefore, the casino house edge is always greater than player's winning chances.
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If the casino or the platform which you are using to place your bets does not have a provably fair method or a way to prove that the roll was random, then they can surely manipulate your chance of winning or losing any game even if it's dice. The biggest casinos in the space are using these methods and that's why people trust them and use it. So if there's a provably fair system running, you can be sure that the casino can't control your odds.
I agree with what you said but I do not agree with your last sentence which states that if there's a provably fair system running, you can be sure that the casino can't control your odds. If the games are not provably fair, it is done through manipulation and the manipulation is in the game and not the odd. The odd can be like other casino odds but the game is manipulated.
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can the casino control the user account that keeps winning?

let's say I play dice

I have won more than 10 X my initial capital, and I just registered a casino account

so my question is
can the casino control the wins and losses of its users?

There is a way to check the fairness of the game and we have people winning huge amount of money and there are some instances where the casino strikes a deal to a winner to pay him with installment, The casinos are designed to win based on their edge but there's always an exception where the gambler gets hit by extreme luck

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does a new account have a greater chance of winning?
Its more of a myth than a fact. New or old accounts have an equal chance at the casino; the news is just enhanced by newbies who are excited to broadcast their winnings.
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They watch all of their members and they can track their history easily without their users know. If you can win from some gambling games, it is better you cash out the money before something happen to you and leave the casino while you can.
This is one part gamblers doesn't take serious because they felt so secure and relax with the casino without knowing they are also looking for a way to victimized them of their regular win or increase in their account balances, it's also important to understand that casinos doesn't play with their regulatory terms which if any gamblers violates the rules it easily leads to punishable offence were the gamer would have to leave without having those funds withdrawn from the casino. Like I does if there's any winning I don't hesitate to get it out from the casino so easily to secure my funds being stocked inside the site if there were any suspiciousness or evil activities detected.
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If the casino or the platform which you are using to place your bets does not have a provably fair method or a way to prove that the roll was random, then they can surely manipulate your chance of winning or losing any game even if it's dice. The biggest casinos in the space are using these methods and that's why people trust them and use it. So if there's a provably fair system running, you can be sure that the casino can't control your odds.
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Maybe there is an error in the casino system because it is difficult to win many times especially if you create more accounts. You only attract the casino attention to freeze your account because their alarm can sound that someone is trying to win many times. I don't know if casino control the wins and losses of its users but I guess they can do that as casino is their business.

They watch all of their members and they can track their history easily without their users know. If you can win from some gambling games, it is better you cash out the money before something happen to you and leave the casino while you can.
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does a new account have a greater chance of winning?
If you observe that a casino gives preference to a newly registered account over old ones it might be an indication that the games are not fair. Giving greater chances to new accounts shows that it is a preplanned move to attract new customers. I wouldn't be loyal to such a casino. But it can also backfire since people will just keep registering new accounts to exploit the system. But if you have such an experience playing in a reputable casino, I will guess that it was just a coincidence.

Generally, new accounts are prioritized to hold the player down in the casino, so that after winning in just few minutes of membership, he'd spend more money. No, it won't back fire, the house is aware of all that, and such method could result to those account getting banned.
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