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Whenever you win a casino game it's based on luck, there are no strategies or ways to guarantee Profit. The house always controls the outcome of every round, users win or losses are programmed or controlled by the casino. I took out time to study the crash game on 1x bet, it's programmed in such a way that you can see the cumulative amount played by every user and the total amount won on each round, I observed carefully and I noticed that the amount won isn't even close to what the Casinos are making, it's really a rigged and losing game.
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If we talk about regulated casinos I don't think that they can control how a gambler wins or loses that easily, because regulated casinos are supervised by certain authorities and require them to comply with certain standards - but it is more about the algorithm that they design in the game and I believe that the algorithm is more in their favor than the gambler and that makes them profitable in the long run. And in your case I am sure that it is a casino that is not so popular, because of how easy it is for you to create a new account and make withdrawals without any restrictions from the casino and how easy it is for you to find a loophole to play there.
While this is absolutely true. It’s also important to note that, even though certain regulations may not directly control whether or not a gambler wins or loses a bet in the casino, some laws or regulations could indirectly also contribute and influence the gambler’s experience as well as the conditions of the gamblers and the environment, even the state of mind of the gambler too, which of course could affect the outcome of the bet.
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If the casino is running legit, they won't have the control about the results of your games. They have house edge but I don't think they can control the result of every roll or every bet especially the casino classics, where it is based mostly in luck.
Even if the casino is not fair, how can they go as far as monitoring users activity to the extent of determining the outcome of each of their plays that will be time-consuming and a waste of resources?

The best that could be done is to manipulate the entire result of all players who play at a particular time, and if a particular gambler is on the target list, they can just restrict the person from playing a particular game they feel he is winning too much from.
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If we talk about regulated casinos I don't think that they can control how a gambler wins or loses that easily, because regulated casinos are supervised by certain authorities and require them to comply with certain standards - but it is more about the algorithm that they design in the game and I believe that the algorithm is more in their favor than the gambler and that makes them profitable in the long run. And in your case I am sure that it is a casino that is not so popular, because of how easy it is for you to create a new account and make withdrawals without any restrictions from the casino and how easy it is for you to find a loophole to play there.
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I don't think casinos can control or be allowed to control users' wins or losses. It's just not going to be fair, and no one would trust that casino if that were to happen. I know that there is a house edge, but that will be a longer-term thing.

What I have thought about your post is that if you are new, it's beginner's luck. It's like winning, and it lets you feel the happiness or dopamine rush that addicted gamblers crave, but it's probably just a coincidence.

I think an account's activities can be tracked, and if there's some kind of malicious activity, then maybe they would take action about it, but in essence, I believe it's still random, and luck plays a big role.
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so my question is
can the casino control the wins and losses of its users?

I lost streak 70X in a row in dice, with a profit result of 1.13
Ideally, no. If a casino is using something to manipulate their users, I am pretty sure that will go against some laws regarding businesses or companies and would also go against the rights of a consumer. So, legally that’s probably a headache for casinos.

Although I wouldn’t say it’s totally impossible. They can check our gambling history and they could do something to make sure it’s them that takes the most profit and not us. However, this kind of accusation is difficult to prove so it would be pretty huge to drop such.
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I think it doesn't make sense because 88% luck, then I tried with a new account again and it turned out to win again, finally I withdrew everything and left the casino.

does a new account have a greater chance of winning?
It is possible that they have a system that lets new accounts get a taste of winning however it is also entirely possible that it is just a coincidence that we are putting too much thoughts into. I mean, there is something called “beginner’s luck” for a reason.
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so my question is
can the casino control the wins and losses of its users?
Not at all, the casino software has already been designed in a way that it will favor them more than the gambler. Casino does not have time to manipulate the outcome of your game, when you just place the bet.

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I think it doesn't make sense because 88% luck, then I tried with a new account again and it turned out to win again, finally I withdrew everything and left the casino.
You are lucky, and have made the right decision.

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does a new account have a greater chance of winning?
Gambling is based on luck be it a new account or not. My first bet did not work out as expected but was the opposite.
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can the casino control the user account that keeps winning?

let's say I play dice

I have won more than 10 X my initial capital, and I just registered a casino account

so my question is
can the casino control the wins and losses of its users?

I lost streak 70X in a row in dice, with a profit result of 1.13

I think it doesn't make sense because 88% luck, then I tried with a new account again and it turned out to win again, finally I withdrew everything and left the casino.

does a new account have a greater chance of winning?

Yes they can manipulate because they are the owner especially if the platform you are playing is a huge scam.

But if you are playing on a government regulated casino and show that their system is fair then provably that  manipulation incident would provably never happen to you.

So always look for reputable casino and don't fall for big bonuses offered since nothing could give us more secure space if we always choose the reputable casino and ignore those casino that doesn't have proof that they are fair or they have budget to pay huge rewards.
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This is actually a strategy for them as well... You see, just as anyone would need a loophole to manipulate anything that's productive to their favours, that's exactly how the casinos don't wanna run on a loss for your damn interest. We know these things, but we act like we do not know and it has a rocky effect at the end on us. All they do is lure in by allowing you to win on bangers and smaller bankroll -- that's already a huge motivation for y'all and it works all the time.

We really do not have any proof for this. First of all, it's illegal for a casino to twerk their system in a way that the players lose at a certain point or when they use higher stakes because that is cheating. In the same way, it is illegal for players to cheat in one way or the other.
There was a time I was winning on a casino with little amounts, so when I increased my stake, I lost so I suspected what you implied, but later I saw that the results can be different too. I've lost while gambling with less and won while gambling with more, so there's really no proof of manipulation.

A casino cannot be a trusted casino is they manipulate games. There will be so many complaints even if there are no proofs and people will become sceptical about using them.
Without cheating the casino already has the upper edge because there is a higher chance of a gambler losing than winning, except it's a game that has a 50-50 chance.

Like the financial markets, do you think the market is manipulated or does it operate purely on the laws of supply and demand? Although no one has evidence to prove that the market is being manipulated, many of us suspect and believe that the market is being manipulated.
Likewise, the fact that we find no evidence does not mean that the casino is not manipulating or controlling us. Also, even if they are controlling and manipulating us, they will try to cover it up instead of openly letting us know.


I am not saying that casinos are manipulating and controlling us. But have you found that there are more losers than winners when it comes to gambling or financial games? The win-loss ratio is not only 50-50, if you bet a large amount of money, your loss ratio can even be up to 99%.
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I think it doesn't make sense because 88% luck,

Luck is about the individual, on a larger scale it's all about probability, and when you have millions of spins and thousands of users it's as usual pure math, wat might look like luck to you it's just a possibility coming true, nothing else.
Casinos don't care about individuals and their one game, what they really care and base their business model on is the whole sum at the end of the day, one or a hundred might get lucky and double or even triple their bankroll but a lot of other users who lose will compensate for that.

Also, losing 10 or 20 times in a row is nothing special, there have been cases of real-life roulette ending only black or only red for thirty times in a row!





 
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I lost streak 70X in a row in dice, with a profit result of 1.13


It’s very rare to see a x70 losing streak on an ~85% winning percentage. The chance of getting this result is extremely low but it’s very hard to prove whether the game is rigged or not with limited sample.

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does a new account have a greater chance of winning?

I believe on this before because I thought casino wants to bait first user on early win so that they will be hook to play more. But as I gather experience on casino games I realized that it’s bullshit belief. Probably, You are just thinking that you are lucky when playing on new account that’s why you are positive and easy to notice all the win.
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If the casino can arrange for users to win or lose then the casino has control and therefore the casino is not at fault for abusing... Therefore the casino cannot control the user to win or lose because this is already a system with algorithms.

Maybe you were unlucky with the old account... And lucky with the new account.
Sometimes in gambling it is no longer strange that you lose in a row sometimes like to think this is like a game that is cheated by the casino, while we cannot prove it... Therefore the game does win/lose it is random.
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can the casino control the user account that keeps winning?
How many sources do I know, whether from online casino workers or other sources? The casino cannot directly control/control the winnings or losses that occur to users.

But they can track which users win or lose, as said here.
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• Number of Wins
Online casinos also preserve the record of your winning matches. It enables enterprises to prevent suspicious or illegal transactions, comply with prescribed regulations, and maintain game integrity throughout the year.

• Number of Losses
Whether in slot, poker, baccarat, or other casino gaming types, game owners also track your match losses with the help of a professional mobile gaming app development company. Acquiring this data is a useful practice. It helps a casino owner deduct the appropriate amount of money from a player’s match account in an unbiased manner.
Tracking Winnings and Losses: How Do Casinos Monitor Player Activity?

To find out more about how online casinos work, you can see the source above.
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This is actually a strategy for them as well... You see, just as anyone would need a loophole to manipulate anything that's productive to their favours, that's exactly how the casinos don't wanna run on a loss for your damn interest. We know these things, but we act like we do not know and it has a rocky effect at the end on us. All they do is lure in by allowing you to win on bangers and smaller bankroll -- that's already a huge motivation for y'all and it works all the time.

We really do not have any proof for this. First of all, it's illegal for a casino to twerk their system in a way that the players lose at a certain point or when they use higher stakes because that is cheating. In the same way, it is illegal for players to cheat in one way or the other.
There was a time I was winning on a casino with little amounts, so when I increased my stake, I lost so I suspected what you implied, but later I saw that the results can be different too. I've lost while gambling with less and won while gambling with more, so there's really no proof of manipulation.

A casino cannot be a trusted casino is they manipulate games. There will be so many complaints even if there are no proofs and people will become sceptical about using them.
Without cheating the casino already has the upper edge because there is a higher chance of a gambler losing than winning, except it's a game that has a 50-50 chance.
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can the casino control the user account that keeps winning?

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does a new account have a greater chance of winning?
It's just a coincidence in my opinion, unless you experience it repeatedly if only 1x then it's definitely a coincidence.
I also experienced it but not when playing at a casino that I just registered but when playing slots and playing in a slot game that I just played for the first time, then it will usually be easier to win even in the first few rounds it can produce, but I don't consider it as something that has been arranged because there are also when I don't experience that, so I think it's more of a coincidence or you could say lucky.
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Just know that you were only lucky with the new account. Casinos are designed for two reasons which are the casino to make money and the second is for the gamblers to have fun.
There is only one reason for those who manage the casino sites to do business here. But those who gamble may have two or more reasons as you said. Since gambling company is here to run their business so surely they will try to fool the users to increase their revenue. so gamblers should always be careful not to be fooled by gambling companies. And control your emotions and greed and then start gambling.  Then the real fun of gambling can be found at the same time if the luck is good, profit can be made from here. And you can save yourself from big losses
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[...] can the casino control the wins and losses of its users?

[...] does a new account have a greater chance of winning?

I once saw a video from an anti-gambling page on Facebook that showed that casinos have the power to give users win or lose, but until now i have not found any clear evidence, therefore i still believe that everything depends on luck. You win when you are lucky & you lose when you are not lucky. Then about new accounts having a greater chance of winning, i believe that, because when i sign up to a new crypto casino, it almost always gives me a win, maybe it is a trick to attract users to come back to play?
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does a new account have a greater chance of winning?
I'm sure you know that dice is a game based on luck. And if you get a winning streak, it's your day.
The casino cannot predict if you win or lose or make you win or lose, it is a game of luck, so the game was in your luck and it's possible that the casino might have fair shot to win in for a new account, so you feel comfortable and welcome. All this can be the casino strategy to keep you, then with time as your account gets old, they let your luck shine for you.

There might be one or two welcoming incentives, but they don't determine if you win or lose, especially in a game of dice. It's your luck. So go on and have fun, hopefully lucks on your side, you win, while the casino also makes profit.
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If we start thinking that the casino is cheating, we might end up blaming them for all our losses. But such accusations are hard to prove unless it’s an illegal casino. However, for big, reputable casinos, that’s highly unlikely. If we really understand how things work, a casino is just like any other business—it makes money not by cheating gamblers but because that's simply how it works. Some win, and some lose.

If we truly believe we’re being cheated, then there’s no reason to keep playing, right? But that’s not the case, and many people still trust casinos, which is why they continue to gamble.

Most of the casino usually is provably fair with their house game. Anyone can verify the authenticity of their games on the blockchain so trust is not an issue anymore on games like dice on the casino.

I think game like slot games that has close source code is the one that typically has doubt on the fairness of the result since there’s no way to verify the result of the game and we just trust to the reputation of the slot provider.

Nowadays, house games are all transparent when it comes to result.
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If we start thinking that the casino is cheating, we might end up blaming them for all our losses. But such accusations are hard to prove unless it?s an illegal casino. However, for big, reputable casinos, that?s highly unlikely. If we really understand how things work, a casino is just like any other business?it makes money not by cheating gamblers but because that's simply how it works. Some win, and some lose.

If we truly believe we?re being cheated, then there?s no reason to keep playing, right? But that?s not the case, and many people still trust casinos, which is why they continue to gamble.

it is impossible to get out of it when one has the addiction and is unable to stop his actions, it is clear that this is not a controllable action even when one is playing at illegal casinos, one is unable to stop one's hand at the game in addition to the fact that even if you are aware that the casino is cheating it does not change, you will continue to play
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