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Quote from: Oshosondy on March 03, 2021, 05:29:32 AM

In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

Your thoughts of eliminating poverty from this world map are really appreciated. I share your concerns and even I have been struggling hard to at least eliminate poverty from my family and people related to me by teaching them skills to make money online. In particular, I strongly believe in empowering women by teaching them skills to earn money and become economically independent. In deed, Women well being is closely related financial independence.

Coming back to your question. I think there many ways to reduce poverty provided there is Political will from Governments and CHINA is a good example. China has successfully reduced poverty by providing jobs to Millions of its people during the past Decade.

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Quote from: Twentyonepaylots on March 07, 2021, 06:34:26 PM

Poverty can be eradicated with the current working system retained, anyone who says otherwise is clearly not thinking their words through. One thing to note, the top 1% of the richest people on this planet can eradicate poverty all on their own, with still millions to spare, top this with livable wage, and job and education opportunities, and everyone can have a chance at securing their lives without being in debt, living in substandard conditions, or literally in poverty.

If they do that, is it guaranteed that no one will be poor anymore? There are some people that prefer to slack off on their home waiting for the government's help rather than finding a job to help their family. If all will be given a chance to finish their study in college, will all of them find a good-paying job? Some will still fail to have that and end up being an employee that will only earn the minimum wage of their country. Poor people will still exist. Poverty can only be eradicated if all will have the same mindset as those rich people have.

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Poverty can be eradicated with the current working system retained, anyone who says otherwise is clearly not thinking their words through. One thing to note, the top 1% of the richest people on this planet can eradicate poverty all on their own, with still millions to spare, top this with livable wage, and job and education opportunities, and everyone can have a chance at securing their lives without being in debt, living in substandard conditions, or literally in poverty.

Quote from: goldade on March 07, 2021, 03:48:11 PM

Trust me, there is no way for the world to be without some level of poverty. There will always be the poor in the world. As much as the rich can actually help solve the world's poverty problem by distrusting their wealth amongst everyone, they'll not do it. If they do, then there will be no one in the lab our sector. No one would have to the hard work of working as laborers in the so many industries that we have. There'll be no one to work at Macdonald, lol.
You should also know that some people are poor just because they are don't have the opportunities that could have made them rich.

What you said about poverty being a matter of choice for the rich is true, but just because everyone is given livable wage doesn't mean that they'd laze off and not work anymore. As much as you worry about how no one would want to cook your big mac when the Mcdonald's employees were given livable wage, you also forgot about how no one would choose to quit on McDonald's for incompetent salaries.

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Trust me, there is no way for the world to be without some level of poverty. There will always be the poor in the world. As much as the rich can actually help solve the world's poverty problem by distrusting their wealth amongst everyone, they'll not do it. If they do, then there will be no one in the lab our sector. No one would have to the hard work of working as laborers in the so many industries that we have. There'll be no one to work at Macdonald, lol.
You should also know that some people are poor just because they are don't have the opportunities that could have made them rich.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on March 03, 2021, 05:29:32 AM

In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

I do not think so as it also depends on your definition of being 'poor.'

Technically speaking, assuming that everyone in the world has money, there will always be poverty. Even if everyone has like a million dollars on their account right now, the hierarchy will always exist as the rich will become extremely rich and the person who has the lowest amount of cash will become 'poor' even if he has a million dollars in his bank account.

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Poverty is the accepted concept all over the world. Even in high GDP country like China facing the issue of poverty.The government should take care of the people in the poverty line.The government should give atleast the basic need to the people who suffering from poverty.

Sadly, those poor homeless people don't have a voter ID card (if they are living in a democratic country) to influence the government in their favor by the power of votes. Let alone looking after them, the politicians want to suck out as much money as they can for themselves and retain power by distributing freebies to everyone who can vote. The richest people should do more, I know they are doing but still they should be very much more generous because we as mortal human beings, won't take all money to grave, if our daily needs and wants are met, any extra cash should be donated without hesitation!

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Quote from: hahay on March 07, 2021, 12:30:30 PM

I don't think so, this is the same as life is not always healthy and sick because this is a cycle of life. One thing I underline is about being lazy does not guarantee poverty because in fact, there are a lot of lazy people but they live rich. Maybe this is about heredity and also unequal access, because in my view the poor are basically diligent people but they are just less fortunate or don't have the balance of knowledge that makes them live in poverty.

Well.. I can partially agree. Being lazy doesn't necessarily equal to being poor. And similarly, being rich doesn't always mean that the individual is hard working. But in a majority of the cases, lazy people are poor and rich people are hard working. There can be exceptions, such as individuals getting rich as a result of inheritance and hard working people getting poor as a result of robbery or confiscation. But in general, the norm is that lazy people are more likely to be poor when compared to hard working ones.

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I don't think so, this is the same as life is not always healthy and sick because this is a cycle of life. One thing I underline is about being lazy does not guarantee poverty because in fact, there are a lot of lazy people but they live rich. Maybe this is about heredity and also unequal access, because in my view the poor are basically diligent people but they are just less fortunate or don't have the balance of knowledge that makes them live in poverty.

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I don't think that there will be a world without poverty. Even if we try hard, i still think that there will surely poor people out there no matter what. Maybe they are poor because they are unlucky, or maybe because they are lazy, we might not know. And, there won't be rich people without poor people, poor people is what made them rich, and sadly enough, the rich need the poor to rule the economics. If everyone is rich already, then there won't be people that willing to do hard labor work, or dirty work, or works that are usually given to the poor because of their lack of education and skills. Sad truth though, but it's really hard to change that, no matter how cruel the fact is.

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Quote from: Granxis on March 07, 2021, 07:41:38 AM

It may not be possible to solve poverty in the world, because I understand the words rich and poor differently, however hunger in the world can be ended, agricultural technological products can enable us to get more harvest in a shorter time. Thanks to agricultural technology.

I really doubt whether crop productivity can be increased any further. It has almost reached a saturation point. The climate change and decreasing soil productivity can actually cause a decline in the agricultural output in the next few decades. Also, the world population is shifting towards a protein-rich diet from a cereal/vegetable-based diet, and this requires more crop area to feed everyone.

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It may not be possible to solve poverty in the world, because I understand the words rich and poor differently, however hunger in the world can be ended, agricultural technological products can enable us to get more harvest in a shorter time. Thanks to agricultural technology.

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Quote from: EFSHAR on March 07, 2021, 05:39:57 AM

This is possible when every rich man come to help their surrounding poor people and try to help them by giving a minimum chance to improve those poor people. If every billionaires established various Foundation without thinking profited, when it can be come true. Every government also take good action to prevent poverty by doing honestly.

So everyone will have their own house and car and live luxuriously? and do you expect all these billionaires and millionaires to share their wealth, we can have a country with a majority of poor people but it's hard to have a country that will only have 5% of it as poor people even the rich country has a lot of poor people.

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This is possible when every rich man come to help their surrounding poor people and try to help them by giving a minimum chance to improve those poor people. If every billionaires established various Foundation without thinking profited, when it can be come true. Every government also take good action to prevent poverty by doing honestly.

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I think it is very impossible to happen that no one will be poor because to be honest life is not fair some people become poorer because of the inflation of goods and their salary rate is very low and that is truth what is happening now. Those people who are rich become richer because they have chances to create business so their money grow. I think it's better the world if they don't have people who experienced hunger even they are poor atleast they can buy can east 3 times a day.

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Quote from: judeafante on March 07, 2021, 12:58:58 AM

Quote from: Oshosondy on March 03, 2021, 05:29:32 AM

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

I don't think it's possible if there are no poor who will collect the garbage, you don't expect rich people to collect your garbage, people will just take it easy, the labor-intensive job vanishes because all people are already rich, for the community to function each one should be rewarded based on his opportunity, and hard work that he put up, and not every one of us is not created equal.

Judeafante you explained why this world with its current system can't be without poverty! We see a guy in a nice car, director of the bank, and we respect him! Even though he is a zero man, and he is stealing our money, he makes bad investments, but he gets his bonuses anyway!
But we don't have respect for people who collect garbage, and clean toilets... and without them, we would live in shit! Literally!

This system can't work without poverty, without wars (mostly imaginary)... it's how they keep us down! If you don't wish to do something that is not moral, ethical... they will tell you "if you don't do it, someone else will!", they tell you "if you talk too much we can remove you from the picture!"! Already been done so many times, and you know that system is capable of doing monstrous things, some people are ready for money to do anything...

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Quote from: Oshosondy on March 03, 2021, 05:29:32 AM

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

I don't think it's possible if there are no poor who will collect the garbage, you don't expect rich people to collect your garbage, people will just take it easy, the labor-intensive job vanishes because all people are already rich, for the community to function each one should be rewarded based on his opportunity, and hard work that he put up, and not every one of us is not created equal.

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Quote from: BIT-BENDER on March 06, 2021, 11:22:49 AM

There may be no/absolutely-no country that is with out a poor man, economically absolutely non, but this worsens in Africa where greater are the poor than the rich, it no elude the range/realm of possibility if a country is economically without a poor but that's government to head such country are years in front of us, any government attempting it, would find a balance between economy and the natural -agriculture, ecosystem, human as a resource-

Most of the African countries are headed by corrupt regimes and that is the reason why the poverty levels are so high. People vote in the elections on the basis of religion and ethnic group, rather than the honesty and integrity of the politicians. And therefore they can't really blame their governments. Another factor is that most of Africa is desert or other waste land which is unsuitable for farming. And despite this, the population is growing at an alarming rate. This means that with every passing year there are fewer natural resources for the population and that worsens the poverty situation.

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I don't think so because poverty has been around since ancient times. As you have argued, poverty is born with these nuances: Ignorance, lack of opportunities, also governments fail by not creating sustainable programs for them. Political interests prevail to give priority to the wealthiest class.

In our society, despite this difference, we are all necessary, poor people work in the fields, farms, industries, and their work is valuable as well and complements other high-level business jobs.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on March 06, 2021, 02:28:18 PM

Poverty cannot be eradicated. Always some people will be in power on earth, and some people will be under the control of those powerful people. It is natural that the stronger will influence the weak. That's why it is not possible to eradicate poverty completely, But you can eliminate poverty. I think the root cause of poverty in any country is the unplanned high birth rate. When the government of a country fails to use its people properly, it turns into poverty. So, Poverty can be eliminated by transforming the population into skilled manpower.

You are right where there's no way that this problem could be completely be solved out because there would always be those people who are on the top.
Due to greed and having no contentment, people would always aim to have the power and the money which is more than on everybody else and this

had been the reality we've been facing even into those old era where people do really being thirst with power and fame.People who are in poverty
state couldn't really be resolved out.

Its up to someone on how he would gonna improve himself.

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Poverty cannot be eradicated. Always some people will be in power on earth, and some people will be under the control of those powerful people. It is natural that the stronger will influence the weak. That's why it is not possible to eradicate poverty completely, But you can eliminate poverty. I think the root cause of poverty in any country is the unplanned high birth rate. When the government of a country fails to use its people properly, it turns into poverty. So, Poverty can be eliminated by transforming the population into skilled manpower.

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