Can the world be without poverty - page 19.

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on March 06, 2021, 12:42:57 PM

In what is happening in our world, it's hard to pass the blame on anyone: rich, poor, government, etc. Since there are so many factors that are caused by poverty. This is not a simple matter, but eradicating poverty may be real hard and is a long process. We should be in one goal and united if we want to make this happen, and of course it is important to take actions; not necessarily one big step, but one small step can be a big help in starting the change.

I agree with you, tackling the issue requires long term planning. If the government would decide one day to just print a lot of money and give it to the poor it wouldn't really help, because the value of the money would drop a lot. For the rich it's not a problem because they are invested in stocks or real estate which is not going to lose it's value so quick.

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Quote from: CarnagexD on March 03, 2021, 06:51:43 PM

The world can live without people dying of hunger, that is one thing that is true. Jobs are something the world can't live out of however, so in this case, if everyone is given the chance to formal education, and at the same time job opportunities and livable wage, poverty can be eradicated while maintaining the current hierarchy of things, unfortunately the upper echelons are blinded by greed and would do anything in their ability to ensure they hoard all the money in the world.

There is one more thing to keep in mind that the wealthy people are so because they have a mindset to save more and spend less. I was watching a social experiment video on youtube recently and it proved that people who had nothing or call them homeless were the first ones to help others when asked for small amounts of money or food while the rich people going across didn't even bother asking the person in need.

This clearly shows that certain people are poor because they might be too generous. I am not getting into the debate whether helping others is a bad idea because I myself do the best I can to help whenever I can, but all I am saying is that sometimes we are responsible for our own financial status. Those who are greedy will always save more and spend less which is seen as being a miser but they are in much better financial status.

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In what is happening in our world, it's hard to pass the blame on anyone: rich, poor, government, etc. Since there are so many factors that are caused by poverty. This is not a simple matter, but eradicating poverty may be real hard and is a long process. We should be in one goal and united if we want to make this happen, and of course it is important to take actions; not necessarily one big step, but one small step can be a big help in starting the change.

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There may be no/absolutely-no country that is with out a poor man, economically absolutely non, but this worsens in Africa where greater are the poor than the rich, it no elude the range/realm of possibility if a country is economically without a poor but that's government to head such country are years in front of us, any government attempting it, would find a balance between economy and the natural -agriculture, ecosystem, human as a resource-

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This world is home of many people with different attitude and different thinking, some are happy of what they have even in the small things they can smile and feel contented and stop dreaming something, and some are like what so said, some are lazy to pursue their dreams to get what they want in their life, therefore they suffer the consequences of their action, that's some reason why others are stay poor.

Being human we're not perfect, so dont expect too much in this world, problem is normal in life, we can eliminate poverty if all of us are willing to change our mindset because poverty or success starts in us.

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Quote from: aioc on March 05, 2021, 06:55:17 PM

There was never a time and there will never be a time or a place where poverty is not existing, some of the roots of poverty are lack of opportunity, lack of education, and lack of materials or resources because every country was not created to equally, there are countries with an abundance of resources like oil, like in the middle east and some areas are dried with nothing on it, corruption is also prevalent and it robs people of their resources.

Poverty is generally a relative concept and has different meanings in different parts of the world. It is quite one thing when you do not have access to higher education and you have difficulty climbing the social ladder, and quite another when you do not have time for education, and in general the main problem is to get food and not die of hunger or lack of a roof over your head. Poverty itself is permanent, as long as there is a difference in income between individual citizens.

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There was never a time and there will never be a time or a place where poverty is not existing, some of the roots of poverty are lack of opportunity, lack of education, and lack of materials or resources because every country was not created to equally, there are countries with an abundance of resources like oil, like in the middle east and some areas are dried with nothing on it, corruption is also prevalent and it robs people of their resources.

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There will always be poor people in this world. I would bet if I find a case that there are no poor people in a country. But of course it will be different in each country, we cannot equate the poverty of someone in country A and poor people in country B.

Because it depends on a person who lives in which country, for example what type of poor people in developed countries will be like and will be very different from poor people living in developing countries. We can describe that poor people, for example there are 5 people, 4 people have $ 100 money while 1 person only has $ 5, we can assume that 1 person is a poor person.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on March 03, 2021, 05:29:32 AM

In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

That's impossible to live without people in poverty, personally I am on that situation during my teenage days because my parents undergone financial challenges. But it doesn't stop them to pursue their dreams to help us went to have good education and fulfill a better lives so we'll able to acquire better future with lesser poverty. Basically hard work should be developed by every person, because success will come after all sacrifices.

Success will really vary on someones sacrifices in life and to those who didnt do anything about improving their lives will definitely go into the verge of poverty.

Not to underestimate these people but its up to someone who would able to build up their future.If they havent done anything in the past then you can really
expect for these kind of results.

World without poverty is something an impossible thing to had.We know that inequality would always be a common problem which cant really be resolved out.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on March 03, 2021, 05:29:32 AM

In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

That's impossible to live without people in poverty, personally I am on that situation during my teenage days because my parents undergone financial challenges. But it doesn't stop them to pursue their dreams to help us went to have good education and fulfill a better lives so we'll able to acquire better future with lesser poverty. Basically hard work should be developed by every person, because success will come after all sacrifices.

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The world can only be out of poverty,because before civilization took over people and environment, our ancestors were living life without spending any money from different angle, so is not necessary achieving everything before solving, is country method of leadership that made us to be emphasising on Rich's and poverty mentality, so in summary humans that give off or die because of living without finance, the only thing is that it's environment will look so rough and dirty because no new facilities for development.

That could work but we have to fight the ingrained mentality that we need more than others that has been rooted on many countries for millennia. And it will be a difficult thing especially now that we are living in a quasi-dystopian society that is bombarded by ads about owning this and that and those thing will only perpetuate the idea that you need to own more than your neighbors. If we could destroy that mentality then maybe we can see a future where poverty is not a thing.

Read this text severally before I comprehend the message now, shall the mentality can't be destroyed easily because of new innovation of life living, previously people don't think or taught of poverty because not like Rich's and poverty, what really in existence is hard working and protection via unknown spirit's that attacks humans, but now people mindset is enrichment, and then country leaders were leading without enough fund's.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on March 05, 2021, 04:10:10 PM

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As you have explained already that life will never be balanced even if the government set up alot of programs is fight poverty which I believe will only save the country from extreme poverty. However, total eradication of poverty can only be done by the people to the people (the rich helping those in need) but each individual common sense is also needed to eradicate poverty (Satoshi use his Bitcoin was created, Tesla developed an innovation vehicle etc.)

Why do you think that it is always the responsibility of the rich people to help the poor? The rich people got their wealth through decades of hard work.

The rich people got their wealth because they were fortunate not through hard work. Do you know how many people work hard and never make a million dollars? I think the rich should help the poor because making a positive impact in someone like so ones legacy will live forever it's the best thing to do it, what's the purpose of a rich man that can waste million dollar on drink while his neighbor barely eat and it doesn't have to be when the world is facing padenmic that the rich will help the poor.
There's a phase that says "the poor man son you don't help today maybe a threat to your son after you are late"

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on March 05, 2021, 04:10:10 PM

Why should they share that wealth with someone who remains poor because he doesn't want to work? The rich doesn't owe anything to anyone. And it is the responsibility of the poor people to learn new skills and get themselves out of poverty. For how long they want to survive on handouts?

There's different between share of wealth and helping people. Besides, helping the poor will limit crime activities and people dying for no reason. Do you know how many people who have died because they can afford better medical care?
Is the responsible of the poor to learn some skills but do you know how many poor people that have the required skills and couldn't get a job cause he doesn't know the boss at the top or doesn't have year's experience?

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on March 05, 2021, 01:55:24 PM

As you have explained already that life will never be balanced even if the government set up alot of programs is fight poverty which I believe will only save the country from extreme poverty. However, total eradication of poverty can only be done by the people to the people (the rich helping those in need) but each individual common sense is also needed to eradicate poverty (Satoshi use his Bitcoin was created, Tesla developed an innovation vehicle etc.)

Why do you think that it is always the responsibility of the rich people to help the poor? The rich people got their wealth through decades of hard work. Why should they share that wealth with someone who remains poor because he doesn't want to work? The rich doesn't owe anything to anyone. And it is the responsibility of the poor people to learn new skills and get themselves out of poverty. For how long they want to survive on handouts?

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Economically, technically and spiritually the world can be balanced and there's no way the world will be without poverty because the laziness, poor thinking, belief, ignorant and lack of wisdom of some people are the reason why they are poor but the's possibility of the world having low rates of extreme poverty which can do by the government and total poverty can only be eradicated by every individual.

Life couldnt really be perfect as others been thinking off it.There would be always those people who are on the top and to those people who are on the bottomg.

This triangle cant really be erased or simply this reality cant really be changed off but as mentioned this would be somehow be lessen up if the government and other
organizations will really be making out such step on fighting against poverty.

Everything should really be in balanced because if all people are on the rich side then no one will really working to earn money.So thats will really give out
an imbalance.

As you have explained already that life will never be balanced even if the government set up alot of programs is fight poverty which I believe will only save the country from extreme poverty. However, total eradication of poverty can only be done by the people to the people (the rich helping those in need) but each individual common sense is also needed to eradicate poverty (Satoshi use his Bitcoin was created, Tesla developed an innovation vehicle etc.)

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People are so different and because of that, there will always be rich and poor people. To get rid of poverty, those who worked hard must share their achievement with those who are lazy. You can help these kind of people once or twice, but with more help, they will simply sit on the neck and parasite. Poverty is something persons has chosen to be or have. With effort everything can be changed.

Still even if effort would be made, life would just really suck for someone. Being part of 1 percent really needs a luck as well.
There will always be poor and rich. Rich people would need poor people to work for them in order for their business to function as planned.
Sometimes it is a choice, but sometimes it is just what it is that people need to live through.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on March 03, 2021, 10:18:23 AM

People are so different and because of that, there will always be rich and poor people. To get rid of poverty, those who worked hard must share their achievement with those who are lazy. You can help these kind of people once or twice, but with more help, they will simply sit on the neck and parasite. Poverty is something persons has chosen to be or have. With effort everything can be changed.

Still even if effort would be made, life would just really suck for someone. Being part of 1 percent really needs a luck as well.
There will always be poor and rich. Rich people would need poor people to work for them in order for their business to function as planned.
Sometimes it is a choice, but sometimes it is just what it is that people need to live through.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on March 03, 2021, 07:50:36 AM

If these people want to get out of poverty, then they need to stop producing children without any limit.

Unfortunately this will not happen anymore.
Base on https://www.worldometers.info/, as of today there are approx. 300k babies that are being born and 100k people are dying. That is a ratio of 3:1 (birth to death ratio). This is happening everyday. Overpopulation will be the biggest problem of the world in the next decades and stopping it will be hard or at least impossible.

Now to answer the question, you want the world to be like a Utopia right?? Even in my dreams, that will not happen

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Sadly, in our cruel world there will be people who are rich and people who are poor. Every people have many ways for them not to be poor but its them who aren't doing it that is why they stay as poor. The rich are getting richer everyday, the middle will stay at middle and the poor will be poorer and that is the reality. Poverty is the biggest virus that our world has for a long time already and stopping it is almost impossible. Poverty virus is more contagious than the current virus we are facing right now. An Utopia will just happen in fairy tales but in reality, it will not happen.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on March 03, 2021, 05:29:32 AM

I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.

Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

It's not possible, we can never eradicate poor people and poor living, but there is a place where everybody is poor and only a few are rich and that is North Korea, we can never be equal to each other, some countries try to implement equality and they failed miserably because we are never created equally, so can never have equally, we are human and we see the weakness and strength of others, and wants to be powerful and have more than the others.

Because corruption is still there that's why we can achieve that equality, and even if the economy of certain country is so strong still they are not save from poverty since look at the american country they are 1st world and strong nation but still their are citizens cannot able to put foods in their tables and homeless people are still in street.

Also North Korea is in the hands of dictator so this unbalance situation is so normal especially there government doesn't give any good freedom to their citizens.

Maybe this world without poverty is just fantasy since in reality we cannot achieve that since every people have different mindset towards certain conditions.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on March 03, 2021, 05:29:32 AM

In world, there is hierarchy, that is why some people are rich, some are average, some are not that rich but still having good living some are poor, while the poor still look at some and still appreciate life because they are poorer. I am beginning to thinking laziness can be the result of some people not having good living, while some is purely due to ignorant an lack of knowledge and exposure, some even only lack information.
I am thinking with how people is, is there a way possible for everyone to live without being poor, though their can be hierarchy but in a way no one is poor? But I am thinking it is not possible. If anything happens today that the poor are richer and got richer than the rich people, the rich people will become poor too because life is not just balance.
Economically, can there be a way people can live and no one will be poor?

There always be poverty in every country. You said laziness can be the problem and the reasons for laziness are worth mentioning. Some people are poor and do not have the motivation to do anything and they become lazy. Or they do not think that they can be rich someday in the future. There are many social problems with poor people. Each of them needs to be directed separately. The rich people are too much rich and the poor are too poor. Medium class is fading away in between. Being rich in monetary terms requires acting on it. Work on yourself, nowadays the most valuable thing is the knowledge you possess. If you are professional then you can be anyone you want to be.
I think that poor will always be in capitalism.

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A world where there is no poverty is a world where people could get what they want out of thin air, even if there's universal basic income there'll be some people who always gonna spend all their money for the most useless things.
Poverty is not only state of financial condition but also state of mentality, in short it's quite impossible. Not to mention there always some people who want to fulfil their greedines through any shady means and could create poverty again.

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