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Quote from: Wakate on April 25, 2023, 08:19:50 AM

Reducing the rate of promotion can not stop people from gambling and doing what they like to do since it involves betting and staking money to earn good amount of profits. The move to reduce promotion of gambling companies had been in contention for so long before now and I will not be surprised when I see the ban to reduce gambling activities that can have more influence on children, and some adults who might have issues with gambling addiction.
What ever decision they make would only have limited effect on gambling platforms not the gamblers that have so many options.

Reducing gambling promotions is obviously not to stop existing gamblers from gambling but it is to stop the spread of gambling among younger generations that tend to have an undying affection for the game of football. If you notice, there is a very large percentage of kids and young guys who are fans of football and players.

So the initiative is basically to stop promoting gambling platforms on the match-day t-shirts so that those young guys and children don't get influenced and start gambling at an early age which is a good initiative in my opinion.

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Quote from: Plaguedeath on April 25, 2023, 08:50:38 AM

First gambling ads is everywhere, you can't expect a website discuss about environment will not have gambling ads, no, it's happen. Second when you go to stores or marketplaces, there's might be a gambling flyer in street. Third, your friend might be a gambler.

Advertising for the promotion of gambling sites is the most widespread on several social media such as Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube, while for now it is not only on social media, but at every sporting event that takes place, even gambling sites sponsor several teams, there are events. sports to get their names listed and broadcast globally.
If it is in a living environment such as a market shop or a street it depends on which country they live in because some countries prohibit gambling so it is impossible if there is blatant advertising on the street, friend.
What is sure to quickly get attention in doing advertising is at sporting events and on several social media and until now there seems to be no limit regarding advertising of gambling sites.

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Quote from: Silberman on April 20, 2023, 10:26:21 PM

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Quote from: ryzaadit on April 13, 2023, 03:11:50 PM

Not gonna affect people.

People still gonna gamble, especially in "Football" which generated the most revenue on gambling. As you can see, even in the World Cup on QATAR with most religions countries.

Gambling revenue comparing 2018 world cup has just increase 13% without any betting sponsor.

in my country gambling is something that is strictly prohibited but what is happening here, gambling is still happening, especially for football betting, many fans are betting from here

By simply banning placing gambling advertisements on team shirts, it will not have any impact on the gambling business, long before there were advertisements plastered on sports team shirts, many gamblers have already made bets on their favorite team

Such restrictive policies are never going to work, just look at how much money has been spent combating drug trafficking all over the world and if anything people are using drugs more than ever despite the efforts of governments and intelligence agencies to combat this problem, and while gambling does not generate that kind of compulsion on the majority of the people, I doubt many people will give up gambling simply because they are not exposed to gambling ads anymore.

it's all because most gamblers already know where to gamble and without having to see advertisements on sports team shirts, they can still gamble every day regardless of advertisements or sponsorship in the premier league.
in other cases, such as removing sponsorship to reduce the increase in the number of gamblers, it will also not work, even without advertising, now gambling is hype or a trend among young people and where we are, surely someone will see or hear talk about gambling.
like in my city there are many young people who gamble on slots and indirectly people who are not gamblers will get to know gambling from other people's stories without having to see advertisements or sponsors.

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Quote from: Plaguedeath on April 25, 2023, 08:50:38 AM

Quote from: swogerino on April 25, 2023, 08:24:47 AM

I agree as I am not seeing any indicator that such move is effective against the increasing number of gamblers.Few gamblers watch TV and namely sport games beside the main ones and as such telling the audience which already gamble to stop gambling does not make a lot of sense for me.This is going on just because it is a law of the government that is enforced in most western countries which have a high rate of gamblers but it is not the right way to stop such number from increasing.In fact I don't see any other option except restricting betting domains but this is against human rights in developed countries so I think it will continue to be like that.

Restricting betting domain is still pointless, they can using free VPN to access the site. It's all about self control and how he can manage his own gambling habit, if we talk about protecting people from gambling, it's really a lot things to do.

First gambling ads is everywhere, you can't expect a website discuss about environment will not have gambling ads, no, it's happen. Second when you go to stores or marketplaces, there's might be a gambling flyer in street. Third, your friend might be a gambler.

Do you want to go back to jungle and live alone to prevent from gambling? Cheesy

This, I mean if gambling is legal then there is no way to stop people from having some exposure to it as even if gambling ads were banned on TV you will still find those ads everywhere, and even if an attempt was made to ban those ads everywhere that would still not be enough as at some point people will still be exposed to gambling content some way or another, so if governments want to protect gambling addicts they have to choose another tactic as this is never going to work.

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Quote from: swogerino on April 25, 2023, 08:24:47 AM

I agree as I am not seeing any indicator that such move is effective against the increasing number of gamblers.Few gamblers watch TV and namely sport games beside the main ones and as such telling the audience which already gamble to stop gambling does not make a lot of sense for me.This is going on just because it is a law of the government that is enforced in most western countries which have a high rate of gamblers but it is not the right way to stop such number from increasing.In fact I don't see any other option except restricting betting domains but this is against human rights in developed countries so I think it will continue to be like that.

Restricting betting domain is still pointless, they can using free VPN to access the site. It's all about self control and how he can manage his own gambling habit, if we talk about protecting people from gambling, it's really a lot things to do.

First gambling ads is everywhere, you can't expect a website discuss about environment will not have gambling ads, no, it's happen. Second when you go to stores or marketplaces, there's might be a gambling flyer in street. Third, your friend might be a gambler.

Do you want to go back to jungle and live alone to prevent from gambling? Cheesy

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Quote from: Wakate on April 25, 2023, 08:19:50 AM

Reducing the rate of promotion can not stop people from gambling and doing what they like to do since it involves betting and staking money to earn good amount of profits. The move to reduce promotion of gambling companies had been in contention for so long before now and I will not be surprised when I see the ban to reduce gambling activities that can have more influence on children, and some adults who might have issues with gambling addiction.
What ever decision they make would only have limited effect on gambling platforms not the gamblers that have so many options.

I agree as I am not seeing any indicator that such move is effective against the increasing number of gamblers.Few gamblers watch TV and namely sport games beside the main ones and as such telling the audience which already gamble to stop gambling does not make a lot of sense for me.This is going on just because it is a law of the government that is enforced in most western countries which have a high rate of gamblers but it is not the right way to stop such number from increasing.In fact I don't see any other option except restricting betting domains but this is against human rights in developed countries so I think it will continue to be like that.

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Reducing the rate of promotion can not stop people from gambling and doing what they like to do since it involves betting and staking money to earn good amount of profits. The move to reduce promotion of gambling companies had been in contention for so long before now and I will not be surprised when I see the ban to reduce gambling activities that can have more influence on children, and some adults who might have issues with gambling addiction.
What ever decision they make would only have limited effect on gambling platforms not the gamblers that have so many options.

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Quote from: darewaller on April 22, 2023, 01:02:33 PM

Quote from: davis196 on April 21, 2023, 01:06:35 AM

Removing the sponsor's names from the shirts most likely won't change anything. I don't know anything about the rules of gambling advertising in the UK. Are the TV ads of betting companies banned in the UK? If the answer is no, then the amount of gamblers won't decrease, even if the football clubs remove the gambling logos from their shirts. I don't know why the football clubs decided to do such thing. If there's a serious problem with an increasing number of gambling addicts in the UK, the British government must step in and do something about it.

If the brand is already famous then yeah, there is almost no change because people already remember them and will still play on their website. They can't only get those new players who only watch TV and live games but are not active online to be able to see their ads because gambling companies can still promote their brand online if they can't promote on live games anymore.

Maybe UK allowed TV advertisements before because live games are also telecast on it but they are now banning it maybe because the number of gambling addicts in their country have increased drastically. That is one of the steps that their government is taking in order to combat the issue.

I wish it does work for them and in the future we could see a descending number of proven gambling addicts in their country. Anything that might work should be tried and they are the government so these promotions can be banned whenever they like it.
But, let's be real. When we go to the internet, a bunch of gambling sites are being advertised already (worse, some of them are scams) and if you are watching a video on Youtube with a piece of gambling included in the clip, it will recommend more clips that have that kind of genre. It's difficult to escape bad hobbies today.
I think what the government should do is try to educate their citizen about how they can block such things, especially kids now who are using smartphones and laptops for their schools. Because I think there are still a lot of people who don't know this simple trick.

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Quote from: darewaller on April 22, 2023, 01:02:33 PM

Quote from: davis196 on April 21, 2023, 01:06:35 AM

Removing the sponsor's names from the shirts most likely won't change anything. I don't know anything about the rules of gambling advertising in the UK. Are the TV ads of betting companies banned in the UK? If the answer is no, then the amount of gamblers won't decrease, even if the football clubs remove the gambling logos from their shirts. I don't know why the football clubs decided to do such thing. If there's a serious problem with an increasing number of gambling addicts in the UK, the British government must step in and do something about it.

If the brand is already famous then yeah, there is almost no change because people already remember them and will still play on their website. They can't only get those new players who only watch TV and live games but are not active online to be able to see their ads because gambling companies can still promote their brand online if they can't promote on live games anymore.

Maybe UK allowed TV advertisements before because live games are also telecast on it but they are now banning it maybe because the number of gambling addicts in their country have increased drastically. That is one of the steps that their government is taking in order to combat the issue.

If that is their intention then this policy is going to fail since gambling is very popular at the UK, so even if there are no more gambling ads on TV that will not matter as people use the internet way more than their television these days, and even if somehow gambling ads were forbidden all over the internet, and impossibility if you ask me, the only thing those interested in gambling will need to do is it ask a few of their friends about some casinos they may know, and then they will begin to gamble immediately anyway.

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Quote from: davis196 on April 21, 2023, 01:06:35 AM

Removing the sponsor's names from the shirts most likely won't change anything. I don't know anything about the rules of gambling advertising in the UK. Are the TV ads of betting companies banned in the UK? If the answer is no, then the amount of gamblers won't decrease, even if the football clubs remove the gambling logos from their shirts. I don't know why the football clubs decided to do such thing. If there's a serious problem with an increasing number of gambling addicts in the UK, the British government must step in and do something about it.

If the brand is already famous then yeah, there is almost no change because people already remember them and will still play on their website. They can't only get those new players who only watch TV and live games but are not active online to be able to see their ads because gambling companies can still promote their brand online if they can't promote on live games anymore.

Maybe UK allowed TV advertisements before because live games are also telecast on it but they are now banning it maybe because the number of gambling addicts in their country have increased drastically. That is one of the steps that their government is taking in order to combat the issue.

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Quote from: Bananington on April 13, 2023, 02:56:23 PM

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The Premier League have confirmed clubs have voluntarily agreed to remove gambling sponsors from the front of their matchday shirts from the start of the 2025/26 season.

What about the back of their matchday shirts? And the banners displayed around the field? And the gambling ads during the match? Will everything be removed or only the front of the matchday shirts won't display gambling companies anymore?

The measure would be effective only if every gambling ads were removed from the soccer industry. But when you remove ads from shirts and keep them around in another ways, it won't contribute to stop people from gambling. The endorsement, the temptation will still be there. That is how propaganda is supposed to work and that is indeed how it works so well for sponsors.

After all, even the initiative from the players to voluntarily agree removing gambling sponsors is also a propaganda of how they want to be seen by the audience. Wink

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Quote from: davis196 on April 21, 2023, 01:06:35 AM

Removing the sponsor's names from the shirts most likely won't change anything. I don't know anything about the rules of gambling advertising in the UK. Are the TV ads of betting companies banned in the UK? If the answer is no, then the amount of gamblers won't decrease, even if the football clubs remove the gambling logos from their shirts. I don't know why the football clubs decided to do such thing. If there's a serious problem with an increasing number of gambling addicts in the UK, the British government must step in and do something about it.

As far as I know gambling ads are also banned in the UK, at least blatant advertisement of it on TV. I do think there's not much that's going to change about the way people think of gambling in the UK, as evident in my previous comment on this post, but whatever.

Gambling is a problem alright, but I think UK has bigger problems to deal with right now, increase in crime rate for instance, plus a couple other detrimental things are a good reason why they shouldn't really focus on crackdowns against gambling. And if they really are that dedicated to stopping gambling, I guess they should put more foot on the necks of banks and credit companies who allows chronic gamblers from betting using loaned/credit money, much like what the Aussies did.

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Quote from: Bananington on April 13, 2023, 02:56:23 PM

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The Premier League have confirmed clubs have voluntarily agreed to remove gambling sponsors from the front of their matchday shirts from the start of the 2025/26 season.

This is a move to try to reduce promotion of gambling in the premier league with it's increasing audience, do you think it can successfully reduce the number of people who gamble? What do you think? Will these gambling platforms not just move to other sports, do you think other sports that wear their sponsors name in England will adopt this new development in the premier league?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/premier-league-clubs-to-remove-gambling-sponsors-from-front-of-shirts/ar-AA19Ogeu

Do you think the gambling site or the companies they help promote their services need a oong tldeals on their consignments such that they so much rely on their out come to determine their position in the market economy, they all have enough and have already make fans, fame name, advertising them is not that important because they have already been established beyond having a closed up, but the new ones needed the said procedures for then to get established first.

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Quote from: Tumanggor on April 20, 2023, 06:12:58 PM

Quote from: ryzaadit on April 13, 2023, 03:11:50 PM

Not gonna affect people.

People still gonna gamble, especially in "Football" which generated the most revenue on gambling. As you can see, even in the World Cup on QATAR with most religions countries.

Gambling revenue comparing 2018 world cup has just increase 13% without any betting sponsor.

in my country gambling is something that is strictly prohibited but what is happening here, gambling is still happening, especially for football betting, many fans are betting from here

By simply banning placing gambling advertisements on team shirts, it will not have any impact on the gambling business, long before there were advertisements plastered on sports team shirts, many gamblers have already made bets on their favorite team

You know, the motive behind taking this decision might be different than a lot of us are thinking or discussing here. Do you know that a very large number of football fans are minors (below 18)? And minors tend to be influenced very quickly, now imagine, all those minors watching their favorite teams or players and noticing the gambling advertisements on their shirts.

What will they do? They will definitely get involved or at least take a look just to see what it is that their favorite team or players are promoting, and believe me, they can even become gamblers before reaching a legal age limit.

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Quote from: Reatim on April 17, 2023, 09:30:21 PM

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good catch there mate , though front print is important but we know that Camera Angle nowadays is 360 degrees meaning even in the armpit still the advertisement is visible so there is no really sense this at all.
and talking about premier league? all the biggest banners are all over the place , adding those tv advertisement .
maybe they are just cleaning their hands but gambling and sports are always go together and this is all about money.

Advertisements, promotions, sponsorships are always attached to a team or sports match because so far, a sports match is one match that is always of interest to many people to watch, even almost all people in this world have their own preferences in every existing sporting event.

wrong , not all in the world has ,because there are some that I knew who never have a chance liking any sports or person in sports.

Did you not understand every word that I mentioned in the previous opinion?
Of course I said "almost all the people in the world" can't you describe almost all of them?
In fact, sports matches are enjoyed by many people from all walks of life, without exception.

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they will get there , because we are talking about people who love to gamble together with sports.

People who like watching sports matches don't necessarily bet, but someone who bets definitely likes the sport at stake so they can make the right research or predictions and will definitely watch the course of the match.

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Removing the sponsor's names from the shirts most likely won't change anything. I don't know anything about the rules of gambling advertising in the UK. Are the TV ads of betting companies banned in the UK? If the answer is no, then the amount of gamblers won't decrease, even if the football clubs remove the gambling logos from their shirts. I don't know why the football clubs decided to do such thing. If there's a serious problem with an increasing number of gambling addicts in the UK, the British government must step in and do something about it.

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Quote from: Tumanggor on April 20, 2023, 06:12:58 PM

Quote from: ryzaadit on April 13, 2023, 03:11:50 PM

Not gonna affect people.

People still gonna gamble, especially in "Football" which generated the most revenue on gambling. As you can see, even in the World Cup on QATAR with most religions countries.

Gambling revenue comparing 2018 world cup has just increase 13% without any betting sponsor.

in my country gambling is something that is strictly prohibited but what is happening here, gambling is still happening, especially for football betting, many fans are betting from here

By simply banning placing gambling advertisements on team shirts, it will not have any impact on the gambling business, long before there were advertisements plastered on sports team shirts, many gamblers have already made bets on their favorite team

Such restrictive policies are never going to work, just look at how much money has been spent combating drug trafficking all over the world and if anything people are using drugs more than ever despite the efforts of governments and intelligence agencies to combat this problem, and while gambling does not generate that kind of compulsion on the majority of the people, I doubt many people will give up gambling simply because they are not exposed to gambling ads anymore.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on April 13, 2023, 03:11:50 PM

Not gonna affect people.

People still gonna gamble, especially in "Football" which generated the most revenue on gambling. As you can see, even in the World Cup on QATAR with most religions countries.

Gambling revenue comparing 2018 world cup has just increase 13% without any betting sponsor.

in my country gambling is something that is strictly prohibited but what is happening here, gambling is still happening, especially for football betting, many fans are betting from here

By simply banning placing gambling advertisements on team shirts, it will not have any impact on the gambling business, long before there were advertisements plastered on sports team shirts, many gamblers have already made bets on their favorite team

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Quote from: Bananington on April 13, 2023, 02:56:23 PM

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The Premier League have confirmed clubs have voluntarily agreed to remove gambling sponsors from the front of their matchday shirts from the start of the 2025/26 season.

This is a move to try to reduce promotion of gambling in the premier league with it's increasing audience, do you think it can successfully reduce the number of people who gamble? What do you think? Will these gambling platforms not just move to other sports, do you think other sports that wear their sponsors name in England will adopt this new development in the premier league?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/premier-league-clubs-to-remove-gambling-sponsors-from-front-of-shirts/ar-AA19Ogeu

Those who plan the thing did not think well, how can a reasonable someone removed sports betting from the premier league, that is hilarious. It does not make sense at all. I don't think that can even work out. Actually if they remove it from the league front banner. People will still place their bets on face to face and that will limit some group of people since it might not be online .

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Isn't the ban only on the front of the player's costume? meaning that it can still be included in other parts such as the arm or the back and also this regulation will take effect in 2026/2027 meaning that there will still be plenty of time for clubs and sponsors to determine the steps for this ban. https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12856367/premier-league-clubs-agree-to-withdraw-gambling-sponsorships-on-front-of-shirts
But is it possible to reduce people from gambling? I don't think so because they will still get information from many things, and the old match videos that are still circulating will also allow many people to see the sponsors of the gambling site.
Of every step taken to reduce gambling, it will not work 100% perfectly unless the government or the internet shuts down permanently, although they can still gamble at offline casinos or bet with friends when matches are held.

It's kinda useless if it works like that. It will be better to not remove it if they can't remove the other. To see gamblers increase is not a bad thing but this can also be healthy. Government or the economy of ones country can benefit with it, then the club or the sports players can also benefit through sponsorships of gambling companies. This was just give and take. What is bad is if most of the gamblers are now addicted.

The most effective way to reduce people from gambling is by banning gambling on that country. Any forms of it including offline. The government can also do a campaign that someone will be rewarded if they will report the people who tries to gamble secretly.

We know that there's always a criticism in towards on the other side of things without even trying to look out the other benefits or pros which is something that needs to be considered out.
Its understandable that protecting people from addiction is something that must do but in todays era where exposure and social media is really that rampant then there's no way
that you would be able to avoid on not to see these particular things.

Its up to them on which one do weighs more when it comes to their goal and potential aim or targets whether they would come after for revenue or would really be that serious
on protecting people on being getting addicted.

The issue of cubbing gambling addiction in our society is not a find that requires muscle or some strict rules or something, the fight against gambling addiction is strategic, it requires good strategy, else, it will always be a wasted effort, because I know for sure that it doesn't matter the kind of low the government implemented, whoever wants to gamble will still gamble and can also on the process become addicted if he or she is a careless gambler.

Actually this is a self or personal problem on which a certain individual would be facing on on which it would really be basing or depending on how you would be treating up gambling in the first place.
Its really still that good to see that the government did really make out some actions or step on at least lessening out the exposure which would be resulting into possible further gambling activities
or dealings by the people who would be able to watch it but just like on what everybody is saying that it couldnt really be completely stopped considering that there
are other ways which you could be able to gamble if you wanted to.

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